Trade Analysis: Charlotte's Gerald Wallace to the Portland Trail Blazers for Joel Przybilla, Dante Cunningham, Sean Marks, and First Round Picks
The day after is upon us. The Trail Blazers finally made their move, one expected in Blazerland for two and a half seasons now. The particulars of the trade, just in case you don't know them:
Trail Blazers Get:
- F Gerald Wallace 28 years old, 6'7", 220 lbs 15.6 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.5 spg in 39.0 mpg
Charlotte Bobcats Get:
- C Joel Przybilla 31 years old, 7'1", 245 lbs, 1.8 ppg, 3.9 rpg in 14.4 mpg
- F Dante Cunningham 23 years old, 6'8", 230 lbs, 5.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg in in 19.8 mpg
- C Sean Marks 35 years old, 6'10", 250 lbs, 1.6 ppg, 1.4 rpg in 7.2 mpg
- A 2011 first-round pick belonging originally to the New Orleans Hornets
- A 2013 first-round pick belonging to the Portland Trail Blazers
The underlying motive for the Bobcats seems clear: future picks and saving money. Pryzbilla's contract expires at the end of this season. Cunningham's salary is infinitesimal. Marks is small as well and he will be waived. Wallace doesn't make a fortune compared to his potential: $10.5 million per year this year, next, and a third year at his option for the same amount. With this move Charlotte clears out the final two years of that obligation, leaving themselves on the hook for zero dollars after the season.
The Trail Blazers' motive seems similarly clear. They've acquired a potential major talent for spare parts and future picks. Wallace is a former All-Star hamstrung but a combination of a fractured team and injuries. When he's on his game he can dominate single-handedly in a way that Cunningham, Marks, and Przybilla could only dream of. He's a good defender, a strong body, an excellent defensive rebounder. All of those attributes fit Portland's needs to a "T", as anyone who's watched opponents shoot 50%, grab offensive rebounds, and throw elbows at skinny Portland wings this year can attest. Wallace changes the look of this team immediately.
Esoteric nuances permeate this move as well. First, a dominating defensive rebounder at the forward spot helps the Blazers endure their lack of healthy centers. Whether it's as a true small forward or as a power forward in a small lineup, Wallace allows Portland to get away with LaMarcus Aldridge shading towards the five spot. Second, Wallace provides a fail-safe in case Brandon Roy can't come back healthy. Wallace has scored points aplenty in his recent past. He's also a penetrator, covering the jump-shot-itis that's an inevitable result of Roy being absent or unable to get past his man to drive. Wallace doesn't necessarily cost the Blazers if Roy is at full-strength, though. Roy's game appears to be drifting towards the perimeter anyway. His conflict, if any, won't be with Roy but with point guard Andre Miller, also a natural driver and strong body. But Miller should be mollified by the opportunity to loft even more devastating alley-oop passes, as Wallace can finish with the best of them.
The Blazers are committing to a couple of ideals in acquiring Wallace. He's most effective on the run. He lacks the three-point shooting present in recent vintage Portland small forwards. His game isn't subtle. There's a reason they call him "crash". He prospers when he moves vertically up and down the court. Increased rebounding and defense should open up more opportunities. It's likely Portland fans will see more of Coach Nate McMillan frantically waving his charges up the court after rebounds after this. The Blazers have also committed to winning in the short term. Wallace isn't old but he's been hurt. He's not a 10-year prospect for this team. He may not even be re-signed after his current contract expires. Either way, Portland is pledging to go for it as best they can with their current makeup (give or take) over the next few years. Just as important as the players who moved today are the players who didn't in this, or any other, trade. Marcus Camby stayed. Greg Oden stayed. Andre Miller, though ostensibly offered for Devin Harris, also stayed. Nothing precludes these players from being moved later but it seems clear that the Blazers aren't abandoning big men, veterans, or hope that they can get healthy and challenge. They weren't dumping salaries or players. They added talent, retained more, and took on extra salary for a purpose: to win.
A couple odds and ends:
- Marks could be released by the Bobcats. Flip a coin as to whether the Blazers would like him back. Their only center with a prayer of playing right now is Camby. Portland may be satisfied with a smaller lineup until he returns.
- There's no indication yet that Przybilla will be waived by the Bobcats. If he were, one would expect the Blazers to be interested in re-signing him to a minimum contract.
- There's little doubt that LaMarcus Aldridge's sterling play, particularly rebounding, over the last month contributed to this deal. Not only has his emergence given the Blazers hope they can prosper through their litany of injuries, his increased rebounding total and facility being the big man in the small lineup has made them comfortable trading every healthy big man on the roster besides him.
- Wallace is a natural small forward. He'll be playing large amounts of power forward on a smaller, faster team so this shouldn't create a huge minutes crunch. However his arrival and good play would free the Blazers to consider options for Nicolas Batum were they inclined to do so. At this point they don't seem at all inclined, but it never hurts to have options.
- The Blazers can now furnish a nasty defensive featuring Wallace, Batum, and Wesley Matthews as the core. Aldridge is not half bad this year either. Opposing wings are never going to get a rest against the Blazers. One shudders to think what would happen if Camby or Greg Oden ever came back at near full strength.
- The Blazers retained all of their three-point shooting in this deal, such as it is. That's important to their system.
We'd be remiss in failing to mention the players and picks Portland is losing in this deal. We close with some memories.
The Picks
New Orleans' 2011 pick at this point would rank 21st in the draft. With six teams bunched around the 25 losses that the Hornets currently hold, there is some risk of it becoming a lottery pick. But as Ben Golliver relayed earlier, it's protected top-7 this year and top-8 through 2014 so there's zero chance of the Blazers missing out on a spectacular opportunity.
The 2013 Portland pick is interesting. Only Roy, Aldridge, Matthews, and a handful of youngsters are under contract for that season. That will be the year Portland either commits to this core for the long haul or starts over. Should they start over and end up in the lottery the pick is top-12 protected through 2015 and goes unprotected in 2016. If the Blazers stink that badly for that long they're in trouble anyway.
In short, the picks are a non-issue.
Joel Przybilla
Blazer fans should remember that Przybilla was the first guy to believe in this organization after the infamous "Jail Blazer" years and put his contract where his mouth was. His career was on the skids coming out of Atlanta. John Nash and the Trail Blazers gave him a chance and he dropped weight, committed, and transformed himself into a viable player. In return for that chance Przybilla re-signed with the Blazers when his deal came up, making this his home. He didn't go to the Spurs or then-dominant Pistons, both of whom coveted him and would have given their right arms to have him instead of, say, Nazr Mohammed. He didn't go to the Timberwolves or Bucks, closer to his family. He stayed in Portland. There was a time when Theo Ratliff looked like the Next Big Thing around these parts, blocking shots and changing games with his defense. Then Ratliff got injured, leaving Przybilla alone to fill the gap. He not only filled it, he obliterated it. Joel provided years of rebounding, shot-blocking, and interior defense when nobody else on this team could. He was the backbone of the defense and a quietly vital organ for this franchise. Perhaps his most appreciated attribute has been his toughness. Joel would lay lumber and take guff from nobody. Turning Tyson Chandler into a mewling ninny was at one point a bi-annual ritual. His stare-downs are legendary. Przybilla was a throwback to the days when you were supposed to defend your turf...and everything was your turf. In Joel's absence plenty of Blazers will need to learn to stand up for themselves. This was the right trade not only because of Joel's contract and age but because his contributions this year were more muted due to his injuries. But the final moments and need to move him don't dim his legacy for this team.
Dante Cunningham
I've always been a not-so-closet Cunningham fan. His energy stands out. When he gets rolling he has a swagger that's near-unique on this squad. He doesn't strut but his normal walk speaks volumes. He can be a demon chasing the rebound. His elbow jumper is fantastic. He's a heck of a leaper. And I don't see how anybody can sit still when he's on the court. He shows you up by moving faster, harder, and better than you. He's like a blue collar guy with serious hops and a shot. The issue for Cunningham has always been position. He's too small to play as a true power forward and too slow laterally to defend opposing small forwards. Several times this year he was a square peg in a round hole. But he was a fun peg to watch nevertheless. That energy won't be replaced easily.
Sean Marks
How can you not like a guy who knows he's going to play two minutes in a game but gives his all anyway. You never felt Marks was dogging it for an instant on the court. Whether hitting a three (!) or grabbing a rebound, he was a nice guy to have around.
Leave your wrapping-up reflections on this trade below if you wish.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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I really hope he plays too. Tomorrow will be my first game of the season at the Rose Garden. Sure would be a treat! I guess we’ll find out tomorrow.
by blazerbeliever on Feb 24, 2011 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
He’s a good defender
Interesting. I wonder what a great defender looks like
by Nick Van Excellent on Feb 24, 2011 9:59 PM PST reply actions
Yah lol dude is legit.
crash will return to form here as he doesnt have to.be primary 2ndary option, but a firm 3rd.
OSU '06
Trade for Gerald Wallace!!
by TyboOSU on Feb 24, 2011 10:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Dave's not giving him his full credit.
Last year he was All NBA First team-Defence. Wes and Batum can learn a ton from Crash.
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thanks to CHO and PA, for making our team better
Joel and Dante will be missed. They are well liked by Blazer fans. But this trade was well-crafted, and should give our team a much needed boost.
Win the day!
by Blzr fan on Feb 24, 2011 10:02 PM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Joel and Dante will be missed.
Joel’s comeback was one of the season’s bright spots. He’s a warrior and legendary Blazer for life.
Dante worked very hard and played with a lot of pride. He didn’t take any crap from Ducks fans on Twitter or from Kevin Garnet. He will stick in the NBA, giving him more cash for muscle cars. Thanks for reppin, Dante. Best of luck with your career.
wha??
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Feb 24, 2011 10:09 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Bittersweet trade to make. But yeah, it was probably time to move Joel.
I’ll miss Dante also. Heck, I’ll even miss Marks.
Love it love it love it.
For 2.5 yrs I wanted crash sooooo bad, at the very least just to emulate the team in 2k11.
Gforce is a beast!!!
OSU '06
Trade for Gerald Wallace!!
by TyboOSU on Feb 24, 2011 10:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions
played game today against wiz
Gforce had 25/9/2stl/2blk 8/18 8/11 line. I tweaked his ratings a bit down as hes not quite the leaper or dunker he once was, but still very good.
Best moment was wide open corner 3 from lma off the double-swish!
I also tested out tj ford, and guy is a waterbug, but lays bricks.
OSU '06
Trade for Gerald Wallace!!
by TyboOSU on Feb 24, 2011 10:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Soooooo.....
Babbit’s gonna see a ton of minutes now. Right? ahem
Maybe he gets to move up to Marks spot on the bench.
by JonathanPDX on Feb 24, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
This is interesting, we lack bigs. Maybe stectch 4 in blowouts/injuries.
OSU '06
Trade for Gerald Wallace!!
by TyboOSU on Feb 24, 2011 10:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Stretch 4?
OSU '06
Trade for Gerald Wallace!!
by TyboOSU on Feb 24, 2011 10:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm unclear on when Camby will be back.
Otherwise everything’s cool. The Blazers are going to be a difficult team to play.
ignacio
Not a fan of losing Marks
don’t like this trade one bit
ZOMG CRASH IS A BLAZER
This is pretty awesome. I can’t wait to see the Andre-Wesley-Nic-Crash-LMA lineup tear down the floor on the break.
Our wing defense is going to be ridiculous!
Nic can guard the little guys, Crash, the bigger guys and Wes, the SGs.
Nate lets his guys "run the break"?
Are you sure?
Seriously though, Wallace is an excellent addition to the Trailblazers. Just an amazing pickup.
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ive been giddy all day
I’m so so so so stoked about this trade. Sad to see joel and dante leave, but….but GERALD FREAKING WALLACE WOHOO!!!
Has Wallace said anything yet?
I’m curious what his take is. I’m sure that when he gets here he’ll say he’s happy to be a Trailblazer, but did he want to be one yesterday? I have no idea, but I hope he likes Portland and knows how to drive in the snow. Have you been outside today? It didn’t stick but it snowed TWICE! It’s a blizzard!!! /ShutTheCityDown
this time next year
when the Blazers are trying to trade his expiring contract, he will be telling the media, via his agent, that he will not play for any other team…. killing his trade value and in effect nixing any opportunity the blazers have at acquiring CP3….
Bright Lights Big City
preview is my friend
ignacio
Not saying we have a shot at him
But CP3’s never complained about playing in a small market. His agent would love to have him in a big market, but he just wants to win.
No, no
You had it right the first time
"...the rumblings grew louder. Dribble. Dribble. Fake. Dribble. Fake. Shoot. ...a towering dark shadow too terrible to describe. In its hand it held a huge black globe and on its chest was written in cruel runes, 'Villanova.' 'Aiyee,' shouted Legolam. 'A ballhog!'"
by ShelbyC on Feb 25, 2011 12:21 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yup, he mentioned that at Carmelo's wedding in NYC
I read somewhere, though, that the Knicks won’t have enough room to sign a 3rd max guy.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Feb 24, 2011 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
Hes not very tech savvy so no tweets. Makes since hes my age...twitter still wierd.
OSU '06
Trade for Gerald Wallace!!
by TyboOSU on Feb 24, 2011 10:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He's with his old coach.
Not to mention that there isn’t pressure on him to carry the team anymore, so he can just do his thing. He’s a classy guy and I feel like he will work very hard to fit in and help this team win.
Our team is like a family this year, and I think he’ll fit in great.
Cho said he's happy to be traded to the Blazers.
He is supposed to take a 6am flight and get his physical. Cho said he hopes he plays against Denver.
Crash shoots the 3-ball better than I thought. .330.
That’s not really that bad. He also gets some assists.
ignacio
Yup and he's hot from 3 coming in...
42% on 24 attempts in the last 10 games.
And regarding the assists thing. I was watching some of a recent Bobcats game and he likes to catch in the mid range area, survey the D a little bit and then make a move, preferring the drive obviously. (His mid range J is also not very good) But he’s didn’t look like had tunnel vision like some guys (Matthews), he can read were the D is coming from make crisp drive and kick passes.
excuse the typo and grammar issues..lol
it’s getting late. (to be honest, I’m just not a good typer)
typer?….is that even a word?
And good from the corners. He shot 41% and 38% from there last year
So “He lacks the three-point shooting present in recent vintage Portland small forwards” is not entirely accurate. Of course he’s most effective on the break, and even in the half court gets most of his points driving to the rim for dunks or alley-oops or put-backs in traffic. But he can “do the Portland” taking 3s from the corner just as well as say a Travis or Nic.
Love this trade!!!
But I’m sad to see Joel and DC go.. I really respect those guys.
trade was steal.
OSU '06
Trade for Gerald Wallace!!
by TyboOSU on Feb 24, 2011 10:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Great trade! Love G. Wallace's attitude!
Now to re-sign Joel and sign Troy Murphy and make a deep playoff run!
*now to get Oden healthy
I just blew my wad thinking about that man in the paint surrounded by the likes of Nico, wes, LMA, and Roy
G-Wall and Oden on the court at the same time is just scary!
I wouldn’t mess with that tandem right there. I get goosebumps just thinking about that defense!
He could be surrounded by me and the three stooges and he'll still make them look good.
But, unfortunately, we can’t have him for this season’s playoffs. We need some size before the playoffs start or we might struggle to get out of the 1st round.
thinking about the best potential lineup the blazers could have makes me so damn sad
Dre
Roy
G-Wall
LMA
Oden
Bench: Nic, Rudy, Wes, Camby
This team is utterly terrifying
Healthy, we’re the best team in the West imo (obviously pending good coaching so we can gel). I’m just excited for next year.
I’m just excited for next year.
that is a dangerous game, my friend
by POV on Feb 24, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well i'm still excited for this year too
But dang, next year could be really special
If Roy was healthy, wonder if LMA would have come into his own as he has?
And wonder if Miller would still be here? And would the Blazers have traded for the guy who thrives in the open court?
Sometimes what appears to be bad…also has good consequences…
I to wonder this
They said on Bleacher report we should have traded for Wallace in 2009 (when they wanted Batum) maybe Aldridge never gets to the point he is at now if we did?!
by Trail Ducker on Feb 24, 2011 11:58 PM PST up reply actions
Farewell
I’ve been excited all day about this deal, but I am going to really miss Joel. Great summary of what he brought to our town, Dave.
Bets on when jerseys go on.sale?
Wish he did G. Wallace too…but number 3 should suffice.
I hope he retires a blazer, by far my fav non blazer last 5 yrs.
OSU '06
Trade for Gerald Wallace!!
by TyboOSU on Feb 24, 2011 10:52 PM PST via mobile reply actions
There was a fanshot already linking to it.
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As Dave stated: The Blazers were built to beat the Lakers
This makes it even more so and it’s nice we added a slasher (that would of helped yesterday). I’d like if we could get Joel back, but looking forward we are a very good defensive team. We are a wicked defensive team when Oden recovers.
I hope not.
He does not look right. Reminds me of Roy late last season.
by Nick Van Excellent on Feb 24, 2011 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
YUCK
Chris Paul is probably my least favorite player in the league. Dude can NOT stop whining. Plus, he clearly does not want to be in a smaller market. He’d dog it here just like he dogs it in NO
"Hey! If the moon were made of ribs, wouldja eat it? I know I would!"
Uhh, if your ownership was in desperate financial trouble, and they haven't gotten you any help to speak of, then he has reason to complain.
Paul isn’t the greatest guy in the world, but come on, any human in that situation would take the exact same reaction (Except Tim Tebow, ofcourse). I don’t think he really cares where he plays, as long as the team he plays for wins.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Just watched highlights.
Wallace’s behind-the-back move as he drives to the rim is jaw-dropping.
He’ll also serve as a great guide for Batum and Wesley. Both are hard workers who can learn a lot from playing alongside Gerald.
Oh, I love the toughness that he brings.
Aggressive and always giving 110%. That kind of attitude is contagious, as we’ve seen with Matthews (who is similar in always working hard).
by anupam on Feb 24, 2011 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Wallace has 20lbs on Batum.
Nico better hit the weight room if he wants that kinda bulk.
All the same, I would love it if he started modeling himself after Crash instead of Prince.
Stealth > Wealth
Should be good training for Nic at practice
maybe he’ll grow some balls. I like him but he’s got to get tougher. He has little flashes of it once in awhile in games but then it vaporizes back to passiveness.
put a body on 'em
The one that I am worried about is LMA...
he had better not take the back seat to ANYONE the rest of the season..and realize that the team STILL needs him to carry them.
Even with Roy back for his 15 minutes a game….
OK not to be a buzz kill
I am SO excited for G Wall, especially in the 4th
Miller/Rudy – Matthews/Roy – Batum – Wallace – Aldridge…… YIKES!!!
but Denver I think is a bit of a sleeper, they are so deep! And it was an undermaned Boston team, but they look REAL good tonight, with very little practice with the new players
And now OKC has some BIG defenders to go with their offensive wings!
Those two temas scare me almost more then Lakers, Dallas and SA
I agree with the comment about Denver.
I’ve always believed Denver would actually get better just by moving defense-less Melo and his huge contract. And not only did they move him but they got some good players in return. The one thing that hurt them was losing Chauncey but I like Felton both defensively and offensively. So, that loss shouldn’t be that huge. But watch out for Denver.
The Melo-less and chauncey-less Nuggets scare you more than the Lakers and Spurs?
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I have no words
They are more deep now
Check their line up now, it’s pretty darn good! The thing is yes, they don’t have any more superstars to take over games and that will hurt them. But if they consistently play like smart offense with great passing like they did tonight, they will be dangerous!
Carl is one of the best coaches for this also
by Trail Ducker on Feb 24, 2011 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
anyone have any idea why we traded the 2013 pick and not this year or next?
did they want a different pick since this years draft is going to be thin? or did we want to make sure we had a pick this year to work with?
by Peteyhasnohead on Feb 24, 2011 11:13 PM PST reply actions
We traded this years pick, and 2013 to space out us giving up first round picks.
Think we still have a first round this year, and who knows. It could land us this years Babbitt or Torean Green.
Sure things might not be looking great right now, but look on the bright side. I have liquor.
by Tyler Durrden on Feb 24, 2011 11:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Can never have too many Babbitts
Maybe we’ll start a Babbitt farm eventually…
Charlie Babbitt's Available
I heard he’s excellent at driving.
by BlazerFanAndy on Feb 25, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
it gives Cho 2 years to reacquire a 1st rounder in 2013
somehow I think he’ll manage to pull this off, just a hunch
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I wonder if, just a bit, this is Wallace's reward for being a "good soldier"
Crash was Charlotte’s star, but Jordan could see they were not going to get him to the promised land. It kind of reminds me of when the Blazers lost Drexler to Houston. There Clyde got his ring, and it was good to see him get it.
Adding this kind of explosive talent to the Blazers makes this team even more interesting and competitive. It’s like a reunion when the trade was announced. Fans rush in the the Edge to party with the gang.
Fun time. Who is not looking forward to the upcoming games.
Maybe this explains why Jordan was at the Nicks game...
I’m sure he was in town for Nike business…but that was the first time I’d seen him at a game. That game was AWFUL…really one of the worst of the season…if not THE worst..think most of the players had been up late watching the Ducks game…it was the game where everyone said…“oh it’s the hang over from the Miami game…”..
well the only Blazer who showed up to play was Rudy…who is probably not at all interested in FOOTball…!!!! Even Miller played like he was in a cloud..has a cousin who started on the Ducks team.
So Jordan wasn’t watching after half time.
Was probably thinking….hmmm…this team could really use GERALD WALLACE!!!!!
the relationship Larry Miller built with MJ when LM was at Nike
could have been an important factor in making this trade happen
Win the day!
I’ll sum up this trade for you.
Gerald Wallace or: How I Learned to Stop Taking 20 Seconds Every Possession Down the Floor and Love the Fast Break.
"You know, when you are in the game, you hear 20,000 people behind you, you don't feel anything."
- Nicolas Batum on playing through his shoulder injury during the 2010 playoffs.
Yeah, be careful now
There are still the health and outside shooting issues to consider.
—Dave
"Anything for you, Dave." --Roybot
He's a better outside shooter than midrange shooter. See above, and this chart.

Which fits pretty well with a slower Brandon and Miller taking more shots from in-between.
by Norsktroll on Feb 25, 2011 2:56 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Likely
it only means he take set, pretty open shots from deep. Inside the arc, most shots by any NBA player are at least somewhat contested.
It's nice to know
he’ll spend most of his time hanging from the rim.
That 594 shots at the rim
and 349 attempts not at the rim. I like that ratio for a SF.
The guy is much better from 3pt than I originally thought
He shot 37% last year…which is way beyond what I expected. Even 33% this year is a bonus.
I’m wondering if his efficiency goes up with Dre feeding him and other guys drawing defenders? He’s not going to be the primary focus for opposing defenses anymore.
It will be interesting to see how this will affect his numbers.
Thanks for the dose of realism.
I’m a little less giddy now that I have had a nights sleep. I know ‘Crash’ has had an injury history, but it seems like they are mostly injuries caused by him either playing out of position or going way too hard for it. No leg injuries, which is relieving (I will go find some wood to knock on), though the concussion thing is a little scary. At least this isn’t football
Who starts at PF if Wallace isn't available to play?
by Nick Van Excellent on Feb 24, 2011 11:33 PM PST reply actions
I thought maybe he was taking his time due to the whole trade possibility...
And it seemed like he was just a little pissed about his being the only one assigned a time frame for recovery when everyone else (Oden this season and Brandon) was given the courtesy of the non-specified recovery period!!!
Also feel Camby will return as soon as he is FULLY recovered. He’s been around too long to not know what happens when players rush back to play too soon!!!
And if he can't I sure hope we use that roster space for a big
What was already a significant issue just got huge.
Need to write Joel and thank you letter. What a warrior. If/when he returns we better treat him better than we did Blake last night. I didn’t like that one bit, especially given what Steve did for the team and how he handled the away trades very professionally.
put a body on 'em
It seems like they've got to sign another big
whatever Camby’s status is right now. The roster is unbalanced.
ignacio
I think we will get Joel back in a month
Until then if Camby can return, Camby can hold up the center and LMA can hold up the PF2 position and Wallace can come in at PF Or after tonight Wallace can be the center listed and LMA can be the PF, like Dante was. We can do OK with that until we get a big, hopefully Joel.
hg
REC.
Blake was a solid player for us and will always be a blazer to me.
So for the open roster spots
Everyone on ESPN is saying Powe will most likely sign with Boston which is where I heard Murphy will most likely sign
Are they in position to sign both? or is Murphy maybe available is Powe goes to the C’s?
Also last I heard the Pacer team is “weighing their options” with Ford
Thx
Thank you Paul, Cho, Larry. We improve talent in minutes on the court while retaining cohesiveness and character. We will miss Joel and Dante immediately, but I’m excited to see Wallace and him playing with all the great talent we have. Welcome Gerald!
by BBlazer on Feb 25, 2011 12:06 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Welcome Gerald Wallace, aka Brian Grant 2.0.
Upgraded to improve in scoring. Watching Crash reminds me of a quicker Grant with much more scoring ability. Physical and always playing good, blue collar defense.
Of all the players the Blazers were rumored to be getting, this was by far the best and I’m stoked. Devin Harris would’ve been a lateral move at best. Guys like Ramon Sessions and Troy Murphy and whatever were all garbage that wouldn’t have made the team better. Wallace isn’t going to be THE piece, but we could’ve used him in the Laker game last night, and we will absolutely need him to overwhelm teams like OKC, LA, Dallas and any other one that has a strong player inside or on the wing.
If he’s able to play against Denver, I’m really interested to see how he matches up with Nuggetbockers. Denver has a couple of tough physical bigs and some youngsters who can score, they’ll feel the sting of missing Melo eventually when they get into a scoring drought but they’ve actually upgraded quite a bit defensively in the backcourt. We’ll need someone who can get physical with those guys.
Not Brian Grant at the 4, but maybe a Brian Grant of the 3 mold
The Rasta Monsta was a pretty unique player who I still love but G-Wallace is not Brian Grant. Try to tell me he could almost neutralize Karl Malone. N o W a y .
However, if we are talking about a BG type guy at the 3 I buy it.
put a body on 'em
Jerome Kersey
Crash is crazy like Jerome was, they were both great rebounding SFs
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Do you think Joel would consider coming back if waived or after the season?
That would make me happy. :) I thought Joel was our defense for years, even if he becomes a Juwan Howard for us I for one would want him back.
If he does I hope we treat him with respect
But I know you and I see alike on that from your comments above!
More specifically to the question, I think it depends on what else is going on. If he gets waived and we can sign him this season it seems like a no-brainer given our lack of bigs. Next year is depends on where Oden is at and how Camby is feeling.
Despite having Oden, Camby and Joel I feel like we’ve been a center-deprived roster for at least a couple years give the injuries. Luckily LA fills the role pretty well.
put a body on 'em
I went to see the Bobcats game at the RG the last two years and Crash was there best player by far.
Blazers had a hard time containing him and I think you folks who don’t know him are gonna be floored by the talent this man posses. He is a blue collar soldier!!! Can’t wait!!!
Joel
“He was the backbone of the defense and a quietly vital organ for this franchise.”
He was the heart of this team, the backbone; he was everything that mattered coming out of the dark days: will and willingness.
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WOW thats was close! Almost traded all 3 of these guy for Harris, yet we trade one for a better Wallace!
Prior to King bringing up Williams’ name, as luck would have it — good luck, for a change, versus bad, the Nets’ standard brand — a trade proposal to the Blazers was not accepted . . . but it came dangerously close. The Nets offered Harris, Troy Murphy and the 2012 first round pick of Houston’s for Greg Oden, Andre Miller and Joel Przybilla. Portland instead required Golden State’s 2012 (protected through seven) that they owned. New York Post
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/nets/and_all_that_jazz_unIT9ElC1HgMlU6bm9Bj1N
but it came dangerously close. The Nets offered Harris, Troy Murphy and the 2012 first round pick of Houston’s for Greg Oden
Whaaaaaaaaa!!! Huge Bullet dodged!
Lateral move at PG
And we’d lose Oden, who could be the piece that could make this team with the WC for Murphy, a bad defensive player.
Let’s keep this roster together into next year, and hopefully Greg Oden comes back in January 2012. If we are contenders keep Andre past the trade deadline and the worst we have are Miller and Camby ($21M) coming off the books before the 12-13’ season. If not, explore a trade scenario next deadline. As Dave rightly points out, Wallace is a win now move, as he’s ours at least through next year (player option 12-13’).
The cake is now baked. I can’t see the Blazers making any more major moves without shedding core players in return or more draft picks. We are on par with OKC right now, so anything can happen. Oden & Roy will now determine our fate, as well as health.
Thank you Utah
From saving us from ourselves. Crash for all our bigs save the 3 best is way better than Harris and Murphy.
SERIOUSLY! I mean we got Wallace, the better player for just Przybilla, and they wanted Oden and Andre freaking Miller!? What a joke..
Yup,
Cho scored a major coup. Getting Wallace did 4 important things for this club:
A) It extended our bench to 8 deep instead of 7 deep. It added more depth because no replaceable one went back in return
B) It greatly strengthened our interior & help defense and rebounding. All of those were our most pressing needs. Wallace is a seriously good defensive player, and can guard PF or SF – he’s versatile.
C) It provided more scoring, and more importantly, a slasher. It provided someone who can get the opponent in the penalty quicker, and draws a lot of fouls.
D) Fast break just went UP
I’m so glad Cho addressed our needs rather than make a lateral move like Harris. We’re going to have a great defensive rotation at the middle and 2, and a nice 3 man rotation off the bench.
Oh yeah
This move will allow LMA to play 3 or 4 less minutes a night when Camby comes back. This should make for less LMA fail at the end of games because he’s not playing the whole game. Wallace can shift and play the 4 and Batum can play the 3 with Camby out there allowing for more LMA rest. This benefit should not be undersated. Look no further than the LA game.
We are pretty screwed with the Center/Bigman position though, not sure what were going to do there. Even if the Bobcats buyout Joel, or waive him or whatever, we would still have to wait 30 days to sign him again, then an additional 48 hour process. So, point is, we need a bigman now and there is nobody. Chris Johnson from the D-League is already with the Celtics, and im not sure there is another decent big guy down there either..
Troy murphy is another guy we could get.
Very good rebounder. Could be nice if we could get Troy and Joel.
dumb trade
while Wallace is a good scorer and adds depth to our team, we are now officially screwed at the center position. we are now counting on the health of Greg Oden for the future. thats not a chance i like taking. i would have liked to see them keep Dante- i dont know what to make of this deal other than that giving up 2 post players when you are already extremely thin at the 5 spot to begin with is not something i would’ve done.
i’m very disappointed with this trade
by CincyBlazerFan7180 on Feb 25, 2011 7:18 AM PST reply actions
Does Camby count?
Cho will sign a filler backup 5 in the coming days (Eddie Barron?). Losing Joel might actually help our defense instead of hurting it. He really was pretty useless out there except for defense under the basket.
Yeah we always got Camby, problem solved! LOL, an additional back up would be nice though. Barron looks like he may go somewhere else.
Cho will get beefy filler backup at 5
He said so yesterday.
dumb trade!? really? I understand the loss of size, but if we stick it our for this year (Aldridge can man up at center and Wallace is tough enough for the 4 and if he gets in foul trouble becuase of it then we got Batum), this helps us HUGE in the future, its not like we cant get another big man when the seasons over. We could even get Przybilla back, he expires.
I can understand your disappointment.
My two big issues with the trade was:
1) losing Joel, who defends players like Bynum, Shaq, Howard, Duncan and even Perkins much better than Camby. Camby is more of a finesse, switch on pick and rolls type of center. Which is not a knock on Camby but just shows how valuable a type of player like Joel is.
2) losing the NO pick. After CP3 gets traded or leaves via free agency, that pick becomes really valuable.
Rethinking these two issues after one day:
1) If Joel is planning on retiring or has no chance of returning due to medical season, losing Joel was worth it. The other thing is we also have an opportunity to resign him either in a month or during the offseason. So the first point might be moot.
2) If NO gets a #1 pick or something around that area in the next two years, Blazers look really foolish for making this trade. We just have to hope NO gets bad picks the next two years I guess.
Summary:
After considering both of these points, this was not a dumb trade but a great one! (The only thing that could automatically switch this to a bad trade in hindsight is the # of the NO pick.)
i'm less dissapointed
in what we got then what we got. i’m just apprehensive in trusting Camby to stay healthy this season and if he gets hurt again we are gonna have to play awful small. we’re gonna play small lineups at least some of the time anyway. that worries me
by CincyBlazerFan7180 on Feb 25, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
Our small ball lineup will be pretty sweet though
LMA plays good at the 5 and has good reach. Might as well consider him a 7 footer. Playing Nico at 4 and Crash at 3 instead of the other way around would be two major mismatches offensively and only one defensively.
We could switch the 4/3 for other match-ups when we need Nico to guard a PG. Crash seems to play bigger than he is.
All 5 positions rebound well…Dre, Wes, GW, Nico and LMA. All 5 positions are capable of playing decent defense or better. LMA is more than capable of playing solid defense and Dre will have good defenders around him to cover any lack of speed. Every position is just full of hustle.
Dre can lob to 3 guys with impunity. LMA, Crash and Nico are all good at finishing lobs (Nico getting better). Both Crash and Wes can slash with the best of them. Nico/Crash/Wes all shoot the 3 well and Nico/Wes/Dre(15 footer) are all threats from mid-range. LMA is threat from just about anywhere inside the arc.
im more worried
about low post defense than offense with this team- which is something i didnt think i would be saying
however, if Oden can stay healthy, next year can be really special and if Camby can play good i think this year could be pretty good
by CincyBlazerFan7180 on Feb 25, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Just one point. New Orleans pick was protected, so if they did get a #1 we still wouldn't get that pick.
Dante is a poor man's Gerald Wallace
in that they are both tweener 3-4 in size except Wallace can gaurd both spots and Dante only one. I like that we just gave up our back-up big man crew to get the star version of Dante.
Nice pickup
I see that most of you are excited for this trade. I couldn’t believe it myself when I first heard it. Very good trade, but not the best trade. This really makes the Blazers a win now team.
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