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Is the NBA/Stern CORRUPT?




We all know about how the refs tend to favor the best players with calls but how about rigging the Dunk contest?

Why else would Blake Griffin pull out the jump-over-the-car-dunk in the final round unless he knew that he was guarenteed a spot in the final? Serge Ibaka got shafted big time with the longest dunk ever in the history with only 45pts. Plus it was rather convenient that the cameras didn't pan to the judges when they made their decisions. If you or I were competing in the dunk contest the smart move would be to pull out your best dunks in the first round as you can't be sure to make the final round right?

 

Read this article from Yahoo Sports:  
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ApaSbZQtGDsQr3yeABnF66Y5nYcB?slug=aw-thomasknicks022011

 

 

"The fight for power could come between Thomas and William Wesley – Worldwide Wes. He’s an agent for CAA, the powerbroker agency connected as a rep of star players, executives and coaches. He pushed for Mark Warkentien’s hiring as a high-level consultant to Walsh, has strong ties to Knicks assistant GM Allan Houston(notes) and he’s one of the main reps for Anthony and 2012 free agent Chris Paul(notes). It’s against NBA rules to rep players and coaches, but commissioner David Stern picks and chooses the rules he enforces. He lets Worldwide Wes travel with his Olympic teams, gain access to stars, steal them away and broker them to the commissioner’s market franchises.

Stern ought to be ashamed of himself for letting this happen to Walsh. He pushed Dolan and Walsh together three years ago to clean up Thomas’ toxic mess, to restore a measure of honor and dignity to the Garden. Walsh did the job, and now Dolan is one more owner with so little respect for the commissioner and his franchise’s fans that he’s allowed Thomas to emerge as a Knicks powerbroker again."

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Of course it is, Everything's corrupt

Silly question.

Portland could coast along with their superior talent and stay right with us. Now that Portland woke up, the hammer cometh down.

Bayless > Daffy Duck after 3 cans of rockstar

by Batumshakalaka on Feb 21, 2011 7:24 AM PST reply actions  

I even have a file on my computer that is corrupt.

Damn you Stern!

"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."

by Arby on Feb 21, 2011 7:42 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Is this a serious question?

Of course it is corrupt. Stern always caters to the star players. If Blake Griffin had shoved Andre would be have been suspended? I’m betting no. He always chooses when to enforce rules. He wants to make an example out of players……as long as they aren’t stars he’s trying to market.

I truthfully believe if the NBA had a different commissioner who treated each team equally and didn’t believe in star treatment, the league would be much better off. I’ve been wanting him to be gone for years.

by JTDBlazers23 on Feb 21, 2011 7:52 AM PST reply actions  

It's true

I love the Blazers, but I have to admit I’ve been getting into college ball a lot more recently. David stern looks a lot like Vince McMann, and it’s hard to root for something when you know it’s all scripted.

We went like this, he went like that. I say to Hollywood: Where'd he go? Hollywood says: where'd who go?

by Black84GTI on Feb 21, 2011 8:10 AM PST reply actions  

Short answer = yes

7 different teams won NBA Title since 1980: SA, LAL, BOS, CHI, HOU, DET, PHI (1).
9 different teams won the MLB Championship since 2000.
8 different teams won the NFL Superbowl since 2000.

So if more teams have won their respective league championships in the past 10 years in the 2 other major professional sports than the NBA has had in the past 30, i’d say it is pretty obvious that the league (and certainly the commish) have been pretty blatantly corrupt.

by retirecards51 on Feb 21, 2011 8:31 AM PST reply actions  

^

You forgot Miami with one. My argument has always been that only 7 different teams have won an NBA title since Stern became commissioner (1984). Not to split hairs…

by PTBob on Feb 21, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

a lot of that has to do with just pure chance

and also so many incompetent managers.

but we should have won in 00, and Sac should have won in 02.

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Feb 21, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

also with the NBA playoff structure versus the other 2

not to say that explains it, but it certainly doesn’t encourage the lightning-in-a-bottle type runs like the other two allow

"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'

by sammymohawk on Feb 21, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

conspiracy theory

First of all, I think you can`t compare the NBA with other sports. Basketball ist a sport where one or two outstanding players can be the key factor for a championship. That`s not the same like Football, Soccer and Baseball where you need a complete roster of good players.

You can compare the NBA with the NHL if you will, because starplayers can have a similar impact in the sport and if you have dominating players like Geretzky, Michael Jordan etc., you have a really big chance of winning a titel more than just one times in a dozen years. The are just five players on the court (in Hockey sometimes less) and mostly just one or two of them are running the show.

Here is the list of Champions in the NHL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Stanley_Cup_champions

Back to the main question:
I don`t really care if a Slam Dunk Contest is corrupt (wasn`t it a fan vote?) because I think it`s a pretty boring contest and I prefer the 3-point-contest AND I don`t think the playoffs are manipulated. It don`t make sense. Why did Stern implemented rules where the ref could watch a replay in the crunchtime? He would never let that happen if he is trying to manipulate the outcome of a game/championship.

by Nussschale on Feb 23, 2011 4:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, it seems to be a big business. Therefore, there is some shadyness.

On the dunk contest, I think McGee got robbed. Those were some very creative dunks. I bet any guy in the contest could have jumped over the front bumper of a KIa. Andre Miller could have even done that.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Feb 21, 2011 8:43 AM PST reply actions  

THIS was the best dunk show IMO

The Sprite showdown. Some guys that really defy gravity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puqKLbaeE4c&feature=related

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Feb 21, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

They are amazing.

The worst part was LeBron. Like we really need to see his reaction to everything.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Feb 21, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

sure, but raging against the machine is half the fun right?

The Faith don't panic, the Faith freaks out, burns out small farms and villages in the name of the Faith.

by faith on Feb 21, 2011 8:54 AM PST reply actions  

It sure seemed convenient....

…..that Blake chose to jump over the Official Car of The NBA.

It sucks, because they had a great dunk contest going until they pulled out the choir, car and Kenny.

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by iDea on Feb 21, 2011 9:33 AM PST reply actions  

I bet Griffin wanted to use a car

but the NBA would only allow the official car of the NBA to be used.

I dispense B.S. and facts. It is up to you to figure out which is which.

by GMan83201 on Feb 21, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

The N.B.A.?

…It’s Corruptastic!

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Feb 21, 2011 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

Who cares, its entertaining

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by lanepete on Feb 21, 2011 10:47 AM PST reply actions  

If the whole NBA were scripted

Detroit and San Antonio would never have made the finals.

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by KeepItCopacetic on Feb 21, 2011 11:22 AM PST reply actions  

It's still a basketball game

any team can win on any given night. That doesn’t mean that certain teams don’t get assistance from the league with scheduling, marketing, officiating, etc. San Antonio had one of the best teams in the last 20 years and arguably the best power forward ever to play the game.

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by koyote on Feb 21, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Detroit?Really!

The only reason they won the 1st two titles was because a foul was no longer a foul for the “BAD BOYS”.

Somebody step up! - Mike Rice

by We-B-Dunkin on Feb 21, 2011 11:47 AM PST reply actions  

Yes

and the scary thing is that $tern doesn’t even have to try and hide it. Baseball or Football would never have accepted this much blatant corruption from a commisioner.

"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice

by koyote on Feb 21, 2011 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

Say What?

Bud Selig is Stern’s equal, if not worse.

by superfly05 on Feb 22, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

The other thing that

 seems like a conflict of interest is the NBA (AKA David Stern) is reported to be buying the Hornets due to a lack of buyers. Seems weird to me.

I'm typing this here because I became jealous of everyone else with signatures in their posts.

by Flapbreaker on Feb 21, 2011 11:59 AM PST reply actions  

You think he could have fixed New York by now with all that corruption.

Or at least gotten the big three to go to the third largest market in the United States in Chicago.

The problem with conspiracy theories is that every piece of evidence is further proof of the conspiracy, even if it contradicts the conspiracy. Is the NBA completely up and up? Probably not. It’s run by people who don’t always make the most reliable decisions. There are certainly things that could have been done better. But to believe in a conspiracy like the one being proposed is madness.

I’ve brought up this argument from G. K. Chesterton a while back.

…[I]f a man says that he is the rightful King of England, it is no complete answer to say that the existing authorities call him mad; for if he were King of England that might be the wisest thing for the existing authorities to do… Nevertheless he is wrong. But if we attempt to trace his error in exact terms, we shall not find it quite so easy as we had supposed. Perhaps the nearest we can get to expressing it is to say this: that his mind moves in a perfect but narrow circle. A small circle is quite as infinite as a large circle; but, though it is quite as infinite, it is not so large. In the same way the insane explanation is quite as complete as the sane one, but it is not so large.

Likewise, I cannot prove that there is no conspiracy in the NBA. But what a small world it would be if it were true. Those other 23 owners, including Paul Allen, in the dark for so long. Blinded by promises of fairness and equality. Blinded by the belief that they can really compete. Not raising a fuss, but quietly being content to lose money on teams that cannot ever really compete.

There cannot be only a conspiracy. Conspiracy and a perfect mass incompetence are both necessary. So I don’t buy it.

Like I said, are there little things that may skew to a few particular teams? Probably. All men are subjective. But corruption and conspiracy? Let’s give the purported “victims” a little more credit than that.

"The madman is not the man who has lost his reason. The madman is the man who has lost everything except his reason." - G. K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy, 1909

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by T Darkstar on Feb 21, 2011 12:14 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

More than anything (including being a game)

…the NBA is a product. And the more a product is embellished and pushed, the greater the chance of falling into a lack of integrity.

The NBA is dramatically embellished and pushed.

by NeverSummer on Feb 21, 2011 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

Stern is a smug, white collar gangster.

But the league has grown under his watch. I think the next 10 years are his true legacy though. I assume there is going to be a large reduction in national interest in the NBA due to small market fans finally becoming fed up with his BS, star-happy system. Of course, we Blazer fans are the pride of the league, filling our arena up every game. The thanks we get for our loyalty to the NBA is a big kick in the groin. Thanks, butt-head.

wha??

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Feb 21, 2011 9:37 PM PST reply actions  

Totally agree

Especially the whole Darius Miles deal. I think Stern sees small-market teams like a bunch of Washington Generals for the Globe Trotters of the league to travel around and beat up. You need that many teams to fill out an 82 game schedule so you can earn all that money, just don’t get uppity and think you’re going to win or something.

I love basketball, and I grew up in Portland, so there’s a natural attraction, but it’s become almost boringly predictable.

by superfly05 on Feb 22, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I can honestly say that I already am a former NBA fan that has become

totally fed up with all the cheating going on and the whole Star treatment thing. This years All-Star game is the first that I have intentionally missed and after watching the ridiculous results of the Dunk contest, I will not be watching that anymore.

The only games that I do watch are when the Blazers play otherwise I don’t bother unless there isn’t anything else on. While Stern has done a great job selling the NBA as a product, he has striped away all the integrity that goodsportmanship demands. The officiating is laughable really and its not like that will ever change unless Stern steps down. They can make all the excuses they want but there is no way that a 5th place team in the Conference has ZERO players going to the All-Star game unless its all rigged. LMA should have gone before the likes of Duncan, Love or Griffin. Thats a Fact but only in a league where you get what you deserve. This league is about your Star power, it has nothing to do with if a player deserves it or not. So they should just stop saying that players like Randolph or Ellis don’t derserve to go to the All-Star game because their teams don’t have good records cause they clearly don’t care. Why else did Love and Griffin get the nod? Blake was already in the Rookie- Sophmore game plus the Dunk contest so he would have been involved already but Stern got greedy and in the process lost himself a pretty devout fan.

by VinnyB on Feb 22, 2011 3:05 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Absolute Power Corrupts... Absolutely!!!...

The entire SuperStar mentality and Big Market favoritism is ridiculous!

What is it?.. 8 teams in 30 something years have won a title while 9 teams in Baseball and Football have won a title in the last 10 years!!! Big market teams…and the marketing machine run by Stearns… are destined to continue to treat teams like us as the Washington Generals until something changes. As it is right now only 4-5 teams have a legitimate shot at a Championship. The rest of us are just fodder for the chosen ones.

Please…Please… Retire Stearns and let someone with integrity take over the league!

by Ilikeemall on Feb 22, 2011 11:32 AM PST reply actions  

rec the post.

The NBA is such a BAD product. I’m getting really tired of the absurdity of it all. If it wasn’t for the Blazers I wouldn’t even think about watching the NBA. At least In the WWE, there is no secret its fake.

 “The NBA! Where big market bias happens!”

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by KillaPrzydollaBILLA on Feb 22, 2011 2:46 PM PST reply actions  

Without a doubt

Since Stern has taken control of the league their are less games and more WWE events. The referees control the game not the players. There have been more games deceided by calls than by the players themselves. The NBA has become a sham and though I still watch SOME games (not many) I use to watch most of the games on TV and went to every game I could, even having season tickets for a while, until I couldn’t take it any longer. I’ve gotten more into college basketball during the season instead. I go from football, some basketball to baseball now. It’s a shame since basketball was my favorite sport of all.

by Bruise10 on Feb 22, 2011 5:53 PM PST reply actions  

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