Media Row Report: Blazers 111, Nuggets 102
The Portland Trail Blazers defeated the Denver Nuggets, 111-102, at the Rose Garden on Thursday night to improve to 3-0. The oddities in this one left a confounding vibe.
"I'm confused too," Blazers coach Nate McMillan said afterwards, shaking his head in response to a question that attempted to decipher one of the most unusual boxscores you will ever see. "Really," he added for emphasis as the room laughed.
The main cause for confusion: How does a team win when it commits 18 more turnovers than its opponent (25 to 7) and gives up 17 more fast break points (28 to 11)? The answer: it almost always does not win.
According to Basketball-Reference.com, the Blazers have not won a single regular season game since 1985-1986 with a turnover differential worse than -15. Not only was this the worst turnover differential in a win in franchise history but it was significantly worse than the nearest competition over the last 26 years.
What's more, Basketball-Reference.com reveals only seven wins by any NBA team that had a -18 turnover differential or worse since 1985-1986. So, in this one aspect, you can now impress your friends by telling them you watched one of the eight quirkiest wins of the last 26 seasons. Good times.
What produced this once-every-three(ish)-years win? More solid halfcourt defense plus excellent second-half shooting. Portland shot 21-for-34 (61.7 percent) in the second half, including 7-for-10 from deep. Rarely will you see three players all get hot in bang-bang-bang succession like Blazers guards Wesley Matthews, Jamal Crawford and Raymond Felton did on Thursday.
After missing all five of his three attempts on Tuesday and his first three bombs on Thursday, Matthews connected on five consecutive second-half threes that pushed him to a team-high 25 points.
"He carried us," forward LaMarcus Aldridge said. "He definitely carried us through a tough stretch."
A back tweak kept Matthews from crunch time minutes on Tuesday but he was back in down the stretch in a tight finish against the Nuggets. Matthews understands that he, like many Blazers, is playing for the right to play late in games. "I'm a liability if I don't [hit my shots]," Matthews admitted.
Crawford, too, looked like a liability for much of the game, scoring just 8 points on 3-for-12 shooting with four turnovers through three quarters. But he timed his burst well, scoring 14 fourth quarter points on 3-for-4 shooting and cashing in all seven of his fourth-quarter free throws to finish with 22 points off the bench.
That run set the table for Felton, whose late-game play against the team that traded him to the Blazers looked day-and-night from the slop he showed in Portland's first two games. It briefly appeared as if McMillan might simply ride Crawford; Instead, he returned to a smaller group, sending in Felton for center Marcus Camby at the three minute mark, with the Blazers up, 104-100.
"Well, [the Nuggets] were small," McMillan said, explaining his decision to use the Felton/Crawford/Matthews trio with forwards Gerald Wallace and Aldridge in the game's closing minutes. "We were rotating the three guard rotation all night. With Gerald [Wallace] and Nic [Batum], we could play those guys at the forward spot because they were basically playing four guards with Gallinari being out there. I felt like the pick-and-roll, we could take advantage of that. We were just trying to keep those guys fresh by substituting them. I gave Raymond a quick breather and he was able to relieve Crawford of handling the ball."
McMillan then paused before making clear his directive to Felton.
"Get to the basket."
Felton put the game away with seven straight points, knocking down a three-pointer when Denver dared him to shoot it and then getting to the bucket past Nuggets point guard Ty Lawson on back-to-back possessions to carry out his coach's demand.
"Wesley really carried us, Jamal went through a stretch where he carried us and I finished it off with some big shots," Felton said. "It felt good. It definitely felt good to see some shots falling."
The three, set up by a kick out pass from Aldridge, was a dagger.
"The shots were there, I took them," Felton said matter-of-factly. "It wasn't about taking over. [I] threw the ball into the post to L.A. Being a great player, you demand a double team. That's what happened. He kicked it out to me for the shot. I took the initiative and knocked it down."
McMillan said he saw a change in Felton on Thursday, evoking a compass to explain the difference.
"I thought he went North and South today and not East and West," McMillan said. "He got aggressive and attacked the basket. Made some big shots. I think that's going to come. Conditioning for all of our guys is going to get better. But it was good to see both he and all of our guards -- Felton, Wesley and Crawford -- start to knock down some of those perimeter shots."
Going East and West has seen the shorter Felton hung up on the perimeter, struggling to find the open man through longer bodies and occasionally picking up his dribbble to further complicate matters. He finished with 23 points, 6 assists and 5 rebounds on Thursday, and confirmed that Portland's coaching staff has been stressing the importance of directionality.
"It's something they put in my ear before the game," he said. "I've just been trying to feel everybody out. Get guys involved, not necessarily attacking the rim like I'm used to doing off of screen and rolls. I did [attack] tonight. It kind of worked out for me, it worked out for us. [McMillan] really doesn't want me to do a lot of thinking. He just wants me to gradually get into it and play my game. That's what I did tonight."
Felton's direct approach and steadier hand -- at least after four first half turnovers -- produced the best of Portland's three victories during this young season. Camby saw the same development as McMillan and Felton, and he liked it.
"I think the first two games [Felton] was feeling everything out," Camby said. "Facilitating, trying to get everybody involved. Today he stepped up to the challenge. Especially when Ty Lawson was going at him. He stood up to the challenge and went back at him."
Random Game Notes
- The Rose Garden crowd gave a partial standing ovation to former starting point guard Andre Miller, who was traded to Denver in the deal that brought Felton to Portland. Miller finished 4-for-13 in 34 minutes off of the bench, adding eight assists and three rebounds. Miller had some interesting things to say about the trade.
- There was a mixed reception -- including some loud boos -- for former Blazers guard Rudy Fernandez. Fernandez finished with 7 points and zero assists on 2-for-8 shooting and his patented 1-for-5 from downtown.
- If you are one of the people who is now able to watch Blazers games because of the team's expanded online streaming option call or email them to let them know! Team employees were blown away to hear more than 150 comments were on here within hours. It was a long, painful process for everyone involved and they would certainly love to hear your feedback. (Positive reinforcement.)
- Nuggets guard Arron Afflalo signed a 5-year, $43 million contract during the preseason free agency period. During his extensive pre-game warm-up Afflalo was greeted by an old acquaintance who referred to him, lovingly, as "The richest man in Compton." Afflalo, one of the league's most respected students of the game, graduated from Compton's Centennial High before attending UCLA.
- Back to 20 minutes and the bench during crunch time for Nicolas Batum. He had a fritzy up-and-down game. He clearly looked to get involved early, deflecting a pass to create a turnover and then forcefully demanding the ball at the 3-point line on the ensuing offensive possession. He wants it. Four turnovers resulted. A case of unnaturally stomping on the accelerator.
- While Batum expressed a desire to play down the stretch following Tuesday's win, he sat and watched as McMillan went to Felton, Matthews and Crawford in the three-guard lineup. Batum said Tuesday he liked the longer lineup -- one that he was a part of -- but his replacement, Matthews, said he had no real preference, although he sees value in small ball. "It doesn't matter to me," Matthews said. "[Denver] went small. It kind of played into our hands because they play small ball too with an awkward lineup [but] we have the depth to be able to do that too."
- LaMarcus Aldridge, who finished with 13 points and 5 rebounds in 38 minutes, continues to bemoan his exhaustion. "Just heavy legs from the start. I don't know what it was. I'm going home, I'm resting, I'm cold tubbing, I'm getting massages. It's tough. I think a lot of guys are feeling like this right now. So I just have to keep fighting through it."
- Felton said beating the Nuggets after the trade wasn't anything special. "Everybody thinks it's some kind of battle and I want to go against Denver so bad. It's not that way. It's just another game."
- Camby wouldn't bite when asked if he's playing with a renewed energy this season. He certainly seems to be bouncier than the post-knee surgery stretch last year. Enjoying himself and interacting with the crowd more too. "Just trying to play all out," he said. "Only way I know how to play. Try to set the tone defensively and try to lead by example out there. We have great fans here. Feed off their energy. It's good to play here at the homecourt but we have to take our show on the road. That's going to really test us and where we are as a team."
- Camby replaced Wallace for one late possession after Wallace was helped off the floor during a timeout. He re-entered the game at the next dead ball. McMillan said Wallace was dealing with back tightness and will be fine.
- Scott Leedy, writing for Hardwood Paroxysm, made his debut as a credentialed writer at tonight's game. Check the site for a piece on Felton in the near future.
- Seth Johnston also made his credentialed writer debut for Portland Roundball Society. Here's his write-up.
Nate McMillan's Post-Game Comments
Opening Comments
We found a way to get a win. Denver is a very good team. They pose some match-up problems for you. A challenge defensively trying to guard their spread offense and their small unit but we found a way in the second half. We did a bad job of taking care of the ball. We didn't take care of the ball. 25 turnovers: you really don't win a lot of games with 25 turnovers in the ballgame. We were just too loose with the ball, too many guys trying to do too much with the ball. But when we needed to get stops I thought we made some plays.
I thought Camby anchored the defense for the most part all night long. Did a good job on Nene. We needed to make some shots. I thought Wesley got going, knocked down some threes which opened up and took some of the pressure off the perimeter shooting. And then Crawford and Raymond late were able to get a rhythm and knock down some shots. It was a lot of good individual performances. As a team we just got to do better with taking care of the ball.
Rebounds offset turnovers
I thought we were playing too fast tonight. We had too many guys trying to handle the ball and do too much. Sometimes you can get caught up in doing that, especially playing against a team that wants to run. All of a sudden they were playing their game. I thought in the first half we were playing more at their tempo, as opposed to -- we want to play fast but we don't want to be in a hurry. I thought we were in a hurry, too many guys trying to handle the ball. We didn't go inside to LaMarcus. Basically we got into a run and gun game which is not what we want to do.
So many turnovers and you still win?
I'm confused too. Really. You look at 40 percent but they had 28 fast break points. The fast break points came off of turnovers so you've got to take care of the ball. We made them miss some shots but confusing game in the sense of what the stat sheet looked like and what we did. The big thing was, we knew we didn't play well. We had to play better, we had to go inside to LaMarcus. I thought we did a better job of slowing down, being more calm the second half and playing from the inside out.
Raymond's best game
I thought he went North and South today and not East and West. He got aggressive and attacked the basket. Made some big shots. I think that's going to come. Conditioning for all of our guys is going to get better. But it was good to see both he and all of our guards, Felton, Wesley and Crawford start to knock down some of those perimeter shots.
Other guys stepped up on an off night for LaMarcus Aldridge
I thought the first half we just didn't go to him because we were turning the ball over. We got into a run and gun game. The second half we started to establish our offense and run some sets when we didn't have the break and play through LaMarcus in the post. We were able to get our rhythm back and guys knocked down some shots.
Thought process in going back to three-guard lineup
Well, they were small. We were rotating the three guard rotation all night. With Gerald and Nic, we could play those guys at the forward spot because they were basically playing four guards with Gallinari being out there. I felt like the pick-and-roll, we could take advantage of that, we were just trying to keep those guys fresh by substituting them. I gave Raymond a quick breather and he was able to relieve Crawford of handling the ball. But, get to the basket.
The tone Gerald sets
Sometimes teams talk about a glue guy. He is establishing how we want to play. He's playing tough. He's hustling. He's creating opportunities with hustle plays whether it's offensive rebounds, blocked shots, loose balls. He's pretty much doing everything to fill up the stat sheet. He has been the guy who has really kind of gotten us going. Whether it's a block shot, forcing a turnover, steal or an assist, he's just doing a lot on the floor. We kind of fed off of that.
Makes a difference when he's not out there
You can tell the difference. We are trying to give him a breather and get our rotations down but went back with him tonight. His back was a little tight but he was able to finish.
-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
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I love what Nate had to say about Gerald
by cavejunctionblazer on Dec 30, 2011 1:07 AM PST reply actions
Gerald Wallace really sets a tone for the entire team.
It really doesn’t matter how many points he scores. Stars like this are truly rare.
ignacio
Blazers move up to 3rd in Jeff Sagarin Power Rankings.
Top 5:
Miami
OKC
Portland
New Orleans
Denver
In case you aren’t don’t know Sagarin’s polls are computer and stat based, not opinionated. Just thought I would throw it out there for fun. It updates nightly.
Phi is 13, and the other team they played, SAC, is 23rd.
Sample Size.
Comparative rankings don’t mean much 3 games into the season.
by Arby on Dec 30, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
but when they are favorable, they sure are fun to see!
So far the Blazers have played two playoff teams and defeated them both. Even if the rankings don’t mean much at this point they show the team is headed in the right direction. Right now Portland and OKC look like the class of the West and the rankings show that. Hopefully Portland will stay where they are until June or so,
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
82-0 baby!!!!
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
Don't talk about the writer talking about cupcakes.
You are only allowed to write about secondary options to cupcakes.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
Feels nice to be tied for 2nd in the league
and with the 2nd best pt differential even if it’s all currently statistically meaningless right now lol.
Got 3 very tough tests coming up where we may very well give up our undefeated status.
Why is Portland listed as Number one in our division
and conference, with a 3-0 record when OKC has a 4-0 record in the NBA standings?
hg
My guess is average points.
So then it comes down to Net Points and apparently the blazers lead in that. is the 7th criteria for nba standings and nothing in the standings talks about number of games played. Just percentages or net points.
by PeregrinePDX on Dec 30, 2011 3:35 AM PST up reply actions
Our opponents are 4-4
with 3 of those losses coming against us.
OKC’s opponents are 2-8
That is my guess
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
I don't want to think of LMA as having a bad night - other than shots not falling
His threat inside set the wings up in a way we aren’t used to seeing. We saw an unusual mix of immaturity and maturity tonight – with the maturity heavily on the side of letting mistakes be the water off a duck’s back….
Camby has been a revelation. I for one didn’t see it coming. Renaissance Man hasn’t been breaking out the trebuchet, either.
It will be interesting to see if the Blazers learn from this game (i.e., don’t force it when you have a defense that has to scramble …pace yourself; take what they give you – and believe in the shot)
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
Camby
The thing that has been so nice about his game this year to me is his passing. Not quite Sabonis like but when Nene was out on him at the top of the key and he threw a low pass that went past two Nuggets leading to the dunk was frigging beautiful.
Agree
Camby’s entry passes (my favorite was the bounce pass he wrapped around his defender’s left hip) have been terrific all 3 games. I am also glad he’s not shooting much outside of 3 feet, although one “Cambuchet” a night is fine with me. He earns it. =)
Aren't the T-Wolves colors red and black?
by BlazerFanInMN on Dec 30, 2011 8:14 AM PST up reply actions
I actually thought
that Camby’s passing was pretty piss-poor last night. Outside of the above example and maybe one more, he was throwing passes that, if not resulting in turnovers, were very hard to control and turn into scores. A bad alley-oop pass to LMA, a bad pass to Wallace underneath the basket. I distinctly remember thinking that he was having a bad night in that regard (a positively impactful night otherwise). I don’t know if it was his passing or the other players’ anticipation, but it wasn’t clicking for the most part. Which was true of largely everyone taking the TO statistics into account…
by portlandpete on Dec 30, 2011 8:48 AM PST up reply actions
There was traffic
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 30, 2011 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
Every team is going to try to take away LMA when they play the Blazers.
We need LaMarcus to mix it up. Taking what the defense is giving at times, other times imposing his will on a game. I think a big key for us will be attacking the rim, even when teams double Aldridge. We can’t let defenses turn us into a jump shooting team. That worked in the 2nd half last night, but not a recipe for success.
by 52therim on Dec 30, 2011 8:19 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm sorry to have to agree
I understand that the coverage was tough on LA, but I would have liked to have seen him draw some fouls trying to get to the basket. He looked tired and uninterested for much of the night. Nice passing out of doubles, sure, but I wish he’d try to make something happen more. He seemed really tentative, and not thrilled about making contact.
"Tom Lawson McCall, Governor or Oregon, invites you to visit . . . Washington, Idaho, Nevada, or Afghanistan." --Pair of bumper stickers on our baby blue 1966 Plymouth Fury III when I was growing up in Portland, BC (Before Championship).
His job in the game is for his team to score....6 times those passes resulted in just that
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 30, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Crawford was also gifted 3 points off of illegal Ds that came entirely because of LMA.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
The effort the Nuggets put into trying to stop him
did wonders for our offense. Our guards had a Steve Nash shooting night.
He also has been saying
his legs are feeling very sluggish. I think he will do more will imposing when he is feeling a little bit more athletic.
I agree...
…the effect of the shortened training camp and preseason seems to get lost in all the excitement.
LMA and the rest of the guys aren’t tired because they’ve been playing too many minutes but because the haven’t played enough minutes. LaMarcus will get his legs under him and he’ll be better… although I really have no complaints about how he’s playing now.
#7... GO BLAZERS!!!
LMA may be feeling the effects of what led to his needing the ablation.
If he was having irregular or fast burst heart beats this summer….which he may or may not have noticed…he may not have pushed as hard in his cardio workouts.
I don’t know..but it seems to me that his cardio isn’t up to where he is used to it being.
It will come but may take longer than he expects it to…which is why he is NOTICING that his legs are feeling heavy…he’s probably never felt this before except after a long season and many many minutes on the court!
I don't disagree
but when the jump shooting is coming from inside out play I don’t think it is as bad as all that…Much of our perimeter outburst last night came through the post first…better rhythm. Where perimeter reliance becomes dangerous is when shots are coming out of rhythm. They are simply lower percentage shots.
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
Ben
Great stats with the basketball reference turnover differential stuff, that is the stuff I love! I wonder now how many of those 8 wins won by 9+ like the Blazers did?
Another little nugget according to ELIAS
From Elias: Wesley Matthews and Raymond Felton scored 25 and 23 points, respectively, and Jamal Crawford came off the bench to tally 22 in the Trail Blazers’ 111-102 triumph over the Nuggets. It marked the first time in nearly 19 years that each of Portland’s starting guards, as well as a backcourt player coming off the bench, all scored 20-or-more points in a game. The last time that happened was on Jan. 26, 1993, when starters Clyde Drexler (31) and Terry Porter (25) and substitute Rod Strickland (21) did it.
It appears that the Blazers back court has a new Motto
We play for each other—this seems like a new Theme.
I am just glad they won against a team that plays rough D. Last year when a team put lock down D on us we folded. I thought that was going to be the trend this year as the 2nd quarter was being played, but the Trailblazers found a way to get it down
hg
I really don't want to respect Denver's D
and I’m not happy with how Portland failed to exploit the small lineup at times (guards played terrible when Batum was trying to post)…
However, Denver has been getting it done, and I think they are going to be a handful all season. Hollinger wasn’t completely out in left field with his forecast…
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 30, 2011 3:36 AM PST up reply actions
Good point about the D.
They had Miller guarding GW for a stretch in the 4th and we didn’t try to attack the mismatch at all. Denver has quick hands and defends the perimeter nicely, but they don’t really protect the rim. Birdman isn’t the force he used to be and Nene, Galanari , and the Russian kid aren’t going to make their reputations on D. We did exploit the rebounding advantage, but we need to identify and exploit the mismatches.
by 52therim on Dec 30, 2011 8:27 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Batum looked terrible last night--very tentative, which resulted in turnovers.
His first dunk attempt was soft too. He’s gotta start earning his minutes by playing with more of an edge. AKA take notes from Wallace or Camby.
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Dec 30, 2011 5:37 AM PST reply actions
Agree that Nic
Nic has to fight through his missed opportunities and just scrap. You could see it in his face when he missed that first dunk, turned the ball over, and missed other easy shots that it gets to him mentally. He wants to be an impact player like he is in France but this is the NBA and he plays for Nate who doesn’t give a long leash when mistakes mount up. He has the talent for sure but needs that mental aspect of his game to improve to get to that next level we are all waiting for.
by Idahoblazerfan on Dec 30, 2011 6:49 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah he is terrible
The 4 blocks and 6 rebounds were just a mirage
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 30, 2011 7:00 AM PST up reply actions
I agree -- he had a good game, a positive impact
even if he didn’t score well. Those blocked shots were insane! He’s been all over the court these 1st 3 games. He’s a good shooter and his shots will fall.
ignacio
yep
Even BRoy had bad shooting stretches
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 30, 2011 7:16 AM PST up reply actions
He brought a ton of energy
And would have continued to disrupt Denver’s offense if we could have afforded to leave him in (with offense lacking).
"Tom Lawson McCall, Governor or Oregon, invites you to visit . . . Washington, Idaho, Nevada, or Afghanistan." --Pair of bumper stickers on our baby blue 1966 Plymouth Fury III when I was growing up in Portland, BC (Before Championship).
haha, sorry, i should clarify--he looked terrible and out of place in the offense last night.
it was just one game, but this is the first I’ve been able to watch this year, so it’s all I have to talk about :)
His D was strong, but he was only 1-6 with 4 turnovers. I’m a HUGE Batum fan and think he’s a potential building block, but everyone keeps complaining on how he needs to play more minutes. After last night, I couldn’t disagree more until he proves otherwise.
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Dec 30, 2011 7:18 AM PST up reply actions
Bit
Confused on prove otherwise. Look to Crawford and matthews they just chuck sot after shot until they get into a grove. Some how they have the luxury to do that. Batum tries that and he’s pulled for the ret of the game. Nate is turning this kid, if I was him I’d get out of ASAP, just to get with a coach who actually coaches and is fair. Long term we are going to regret treating him this way. He is one of the few young talented players we have. Short term everything looks fine, but we are allowing Nate to mortgage the future for another 1and done.
I think Nic would have been in most of the 4th
but Wes and Jamal started hitting. Nate isn’t pulling the hot hands. He has that luxury. If Wes or Jamal had laid an egg in the 3rd quarter Nic would have played another 10 minutes.
by boppitywop on Dec 30, 2011 9:13 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
this
Nico can take care of himself…or at least he should be able to. I’m glad we want to protect him from big bad Nate but who will protect Felton and Crawford when Nico’s stealing all of their 4th quarter minutes?
No one needs "protecting " from Nate.
There are still 63 games to go. Keep praying to the basketball gods for a healthy Camby for them all.
Nico is a big boy, and Nate has it under control. There are no crybabies this year. We have a TEAM !!
just win baby !
by FrenchieFan on Dec 30, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Nic will get plenty of run this season.
It will just have to be for our older bigs.
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 30, 2011 12:11 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
well
I see what you are saying.
The thing to remember is he is trying things he has not done in the NBA before. Deeper post play, more aggressive. He has just got to find his sea legs as it were. It took aldridge a good month to really start hitting his new post plays last season when LaMonster came to the fore.
It takes a little time to get the range together.
Matthews, crawford, felton all are doing what they do. The team is asking Batum to do something different than he did under the Roy ball schemes of his entire previous NBA career. It will be a work in progress.
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
I also think it's worth noting he had the worst Blazer PER in last night's game:
http://www.nba.com/statistics/efficiency.html
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Dec 30, 2011 7:22 AM PST up reply actions
That is an offensive stat
and he had a bad shooting night
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 30, 2011 7:33 AM PST up reply actions
It takes everything into account, per NBA.com:
“NBA.com evaluates all players based on the efficiency formula: ((Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) – ((Field Goals Att. – Field Goals Made) + (Free Throws Att. – Free Throws Made) + Turnovers)).”
I agree—he had a bad shooting night, and here’s to hoping it was just an “off night”.
3-0 baby—Go Blazers!!
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Dec 30, 2011 7:50 AM PST up reply actions
It tries to take in everything
From Wiki
“In basketball, the most commonly used statistical benchmark for comparing the overall value of players is called efficiency. It is a composite basketball statistic that is derived from all the other basic individual statistics: points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, turnovers and shot attempts. The efficiency stat, in theory, accounts for both a player’s offensive contributions (points, assists) and his defensive contributions (steals, blocks), but it is generally felt that efficiency ratings favor offense-minded players over those who specialize in defense”.
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 30, 2011 8:03 AM PST up reply actions
Well those stats doesn't pass my eyeball test.
The fact that he stopped penetration by their guards, made some of their key players pass whether then having a shot. His hustle and staying in the flow of the game shows me that he didn’t have a bad night, maybe shooting wise, but two of those shots he was hammered hard with no call.
hg
Yeah!
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 30, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Plus this is what they say about the EFF stat that the NBA offers on it's site
The NBA publishes, on its Web site, all the basic statistics recorded officially by the league. Individual player efficiency is expressed there by a stat referred to as ‘efficiency’ and abbreviated EFF. It is derived by the simple formula (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK – FG missed – FT missed – TO). This rating is not very popular with the large community of NBA statistics buffs
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 30, 2011 8:10 AM PST up reply actions
Batum was a couple of finishes at the rim from having an very efficient evening
His shots might not be falling, but he seems to be more aggressive so far (early thought it may be) which is a positive sign
True I personally really liked the aggressiveness
As well as him demanding the ball. He’s probably trying a little too hard right now, but it’s a great sign.
by Batumshakalaka on Dec 30, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
If he had made those usually high percentage shots at the rim, his stat line would have been more like 4/6 shooting, 12 points, 6 rebounds, 4 blocks, 1 assist.
Nicos aggression has been awesome, and I’m confident his shots will start falling at a better clip.
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
Bring Back Dre.
Nic had 5 blocks. He was credited with 4. But one was called a foul when it clearly was NOT.
GOOD to see his offense isn’t affecting his defense. His defense has been great this year.
Way to many minutes for all the starters.............
Nate’s going to run them to the rehab lab. And when they go…. and they will, the bench still won’t be in playing shape. Didn’t think LA would last the season……but with the “prancing” around and avoiding contact, he should be alright.
We must endeavor to persevere.
nobody actually even hit 40 mins
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 30, 2011 7:32 AM PST up reply actions
While I agree that play time is going to be an issue this year, I didn't see any problem with the minutes last night.
The Blazers played last night after a day off, and have two more days till the next game. This season, like any other, home games must be won. Especially when playing a division opponent that is on the second night of a back to back.
If the Blazers took better care of the ball, the score would not have been close, Nate could have gone deeper into the bench, and LMA would have topped his minutes at a team high of 35. But even with all the TOs, 39 minutes isn’t that bad considering the time off between games.
Disagree.
This was a game against a division opponent where we have a two day break before the next game. This is EXACTLY the kind of correct strategic decision to make when guiding a team through a compressed season. Had Nate brought out the White Platoon like he did in the last two games, half this board would be calling for his head on the end of a pike… and rightfully so this time around. Props to Nate for putting his foot on the gas pedal at the appropriate time.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.
by conspirator5 on Dec 30, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
The other half than the ones who want that today
half this board would be calling for his head on the end of a pike
There is always half that want that
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 30, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
In that case I'm green 00
I’ve never called for it
\oo///
by Billy Hoyle on Dec 30, 2011 1:28 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
What do you mean "prancing"?
Isn’t LMA supposed to be a beast all of a sudden? – even though he isn’t rebounding any more, or getting to the FT anymore, or playing any less soft than before…
Hey ...I bet BRoy told LMA all about how once you become the main guy
people will turn on you
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 30, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Regarding streaming: "Call or email them to let them know! "
Call who, at what number?
Check Blazers.com for both
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 30, 2011 7:34 AM PST up reply actions
That doesn't answer my question.
Ben requested that I call someone and offer a positive comment about internet streaming. I am more than happy to do that. I want to know which person(s) Ben thinks I ought to speak with so that my message reaches the best person to hear it. I can’t find that out by looking on a blazers.com.
He probably doesn't know specifically
However…here is a Blazer VP of digital communications who commented in the streaming thread. Dan Harbison . He would probably like to hear from you …or you could call or email customer service who could pass along your thoughts
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 30, 2011 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
Dre still had some crafty moves
But I really like how our guys that had played with Dre weren’t biting on his ball fakes like 90% of the league, and how Batum refused to get posted up by him.
I also want to publicly thank Rudy for removing all doubt as to why we traded him.
we can still win........
I love Denver's road uniforms,
but that color looks terrible on Rudy. He also appears to have done the absolute most to keep from gaining any sort of muscle definition on his arms. He just looks like a scruffy, thorn-in-your-side sharp shooter. Problem is…he can’t shoot very well…
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 30, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
He's not straightening his hair anymore either.
Seems like he’s gone from GQ-scruffy to just scruffy. Maybe that’s proof that he’s done with the USA, he’s not trying to sell jerseys to the ladies anymore. :-p
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.
by conspirator5 on Dec 30, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
What a strange game that was.
Denver is the essence of pesky and they have some muscle inside.
The TOs are troubling though. You have GOT to take care of the rock. Chris Paul is lurking around the corner. You don’t want that dude with the ball in the open court anywhere.
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 30, 2011 9:29 AM PST reply actions
How many of those turnovers were offensive fouls ?
Questionable calls on some of Nicos blocks too, he should have had more than 4, from where I was sitting.
Still it’s a great day to be a Blazer, it was called even in the 4th. True test coming in with the Clips and Thunder.
Go Blazers !!!!
just win baby !
Crazy Game, thankfully the shots started falling
When the long ball falls all is well. Just think if that didn’t happen last night. We would be ragging on the sloppy passing and out of control pace.
I like the fact that the team is causing a lot of turmoil with their D. Once they turn their offensive aggression into controlled success, I think they will be alright.
But the key stat for this team is going to be effective outside shooting, as always.
Even more interesting
Was that the turnover differential could have easily been -21 and would have been the highest in a win since 1985-86, as mentioned.. Denver had 3 TO’s in the final two minutes trying to force the issue while down a handful of points.
Taken even further, last night’s win, even with a -18 differential, is tied for 2nd worst in a win in a game that didn’t go to overtime.
another fun fact
is that the Blazers are the first team to start 3-0 after having their starting PG lead the league in turnovers during the offseason. Felton averaged 6 per day, 3 apple and 3 cherry.
(I keed! I keed!)
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Dec 30, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
(first one since Baron Davis I should note)
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Dec 30, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Home games insure we will make the playoffs... Road games will tell us how far we are gonna go
Very nice start to the season the Nuggets were getting a lot of hype about them going with small guards the first week but please no one can toss out the firepower we have in our guard rotation . The next test will be Paul,Billups ,Mo Williams and then we get Durant,Harden,Westbrook so I dont get why everyone is so concerned about Nic its game three neither he nor they should be complaining right now as he will certainly get more time in those games .
Gotta love how well rounded this team is
Not only are they going to be very dangerous once they gel some more with this much speed and length, but with LMA and the shooting around him we are still very effective in the half court. We may only have decent half court defense, but they are very dangerous with blocks and steals both.
The turnovers will fix themselves with time. The only thing that bothered me is how soft LMA is playing. No doubt he’s exhausted out there and still working to get to game shape, but he is way too perimeter oriented right now. I’m still waiting for LaMonster to make a real appearance. Fortunately his playmaking off the defense has been great.
by Batumshakalaka on Dec 30, 2011 12:13 PM PST reply actions
3 of our guards dropped over 70pts on a decent team
How cool is that?
Pretty cool if you ask me.
and I think you did.
by BlazerFanFromDenver on Dec 30, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
Great win for you guys
Your team finished off my Nuggets in that last 3 minutes. Hopefully both Denver & Portland kick some butt this year…
FYI—Rudy SUCKS!!!!
Faried takes over for KMart
Hamilton will be better JR Smith
Marketing Director of the Mozgov Militia!
Mcmillan ruined Rudy
Then tried to plant Rudy on Dallas to close the championship gap. Alas, Dallas was wise to the plan and passed the poison pill to Denver.
All very diabolical, but effective. Rudy is still one of Portland’s best players….
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 30, 2011 4:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Actually I think Ariza had something to do with it...
If the training staff in Denver can build him up and strengthen his abdominal “core” muscles; he may be able to drain the 3 again.
by Natsthecat on Dec 30, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ariza is a scapegoat
My post was tongue-in-cheek, but Rudy played just fine after coming back from the Ariza injury.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 30, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
He rarely if ever dunked after that hit
he started only taking threes
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Dec 31, 2011 7:41 AM PST up reply actions
This sounds right
Hopefully Nate can figure something out for OKC. Maybe Luke Babbitt?
Division championship here we come!

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