Quick: Blazers Open Extension Conversation With Wallace
Jason Quick of The Oregonian reports that the Portland Trail Blazers have broached the subject of a contract extension with the agent of forward Gerald Wallace.
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[Blazers Acting GM Chad] Buchanan said he has had introductory conversations with Wallace's agent, Rob Pelinka, about a contract extension. Second, Courtney, his 32-year-old brother, said Wallace no longer views Portland as a foreign country.
"He loves it here," Courtney said. "It was pretty tough at first, but now it's like home. He likes the fans the most. The fans pump him up and make him better."
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Thanks for posting this!
I hope that Wallace stays here for a long time, and that his toughness continues to endure the beating he puts his body through in every game.
by ICanCheerLouder on Dec 28, 2011 4:37 PM PST reply actions
Hope they sign him
hope hope hope hope hope hope hope
by cavejunctionblazer on Dec 28, 2011 4:46 PM PST reply actions
GAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7 year max deal. DO IT!
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by HailOden! on Dec 28, 2011 5:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
what's more that max?
give that to him!
by hoodieNation on Dec 28, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Include a timeshare to PA's yacht, submarine, and helicopter, but only if he asks for it.
Nah, on second thought, screw it. Give it all to him up front! BLOW HIM AWAY!!!!!!
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by HailOden! on Dec 28, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Huh?
The furthest out Portland can extend him is to the 2014-2015 season.
Just get Wallace to exercise his player option early and then tack on two more seasons at a base salary of $9.5 million to his current deal.
"I Am Mine"
I know the salary rules
I was being facetious. This is why hoodie is cooler than you. He gets my sarcasm.
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by HailOden! on Dec 28, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
-1
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Dec 28, 2011 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
I could deal with two more years at around $10mil
as long as we trade Batum and Camby for a Center sooner than later
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Dec 28, 2011 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
When you call out for specific players to be traded because of your rosterbation
for one thing you jinx it ever happening in real life
ignacio
Nah, we did this constantly with Blake and Outlaw before the Camby trade
A little rosterbation never hurt anybody.
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by HailOden! on Dec 28, 2011 9:46 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
That's what grandpa always said...
I dunno though…
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no
.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Jan 1, 2012 1:17 AM PST up reply actions
I'd rather extend Batum to a Matthews level deal.
And deal Camby, Williams, picks/rights to Victor Claver and cash for Okafor. Then make a run from there.
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
Bring Back Dre.
yeah, that wouldn't be bad, but for what he's producing, he's currently not worth $7M a year
he’s worth about $5M right now
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Jan 1, 2012 1:18 AM PST up reply actions
As long as we have enough room for a max contract in the off-season...
I am willing to support.
The cake was a lie.
We have room for a max contract if we let Felton, Crawford, Camby, and Oden all walk away.
We are at $42M (assuming Batum extends for about $6.5M) if Wallace doesn’t opt-out or signs an extension and we renounce everyone else. What superstar do you think wants to come to Portland to play with LMA and Wallace?
The more likely scenario is that we don’t renounce anyone, let Camby walk, and stay over the cap. Then we offer Felton a new deal using the early-Bird exception if we still like him (that’s plenty to resign him if he wants to stay), offer Crawford $6M a year after he opts-out if we still want him (the most we can offer), bring over Joel Freeland with the MLE (which we only have because we are over the cap), and shoot the moon in an attempt to get to Oden to re-sign if he comes back healthy. That seems more likely than letting everyone walk and hope we can get a superstar to come to PDX. We can also try to trade Camby’s expiring contract and Batum for a star player before the trade deadline and still make any or all of those over the cap moves this summer.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 29, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
At this point, I'd rather take a shot at trying to find a max contract level player however small it may be.
As the roster is constructed right now, we are in serious need for an A level talent. Even though we are a small market team, our situation is better than lot of the teams that will have enough cap space to offer a max contract. Perhaps situation grows sour enough in OKC for Westbrook to leave. Or, NJ cannot pull a deal for a second all-star and Deron Williams bolt.
Even if we sign no one with that cap room, it’s not like that is a disaster. Then, we can use the cap room to take on bad deals and gather picks and assets, which is what this team needs going forward. While I agree the best scenario is to trade for an all-star with Camby’s contract + young assets, having enough cap room for a max contract is preferable than going forward by overpaying Batum (my biggest fear at this point is we give Batum something dumb like 4 year, $40 million+) or Wallace or keep hanging our hat on Greg for a recovery.
The cake was a lie.
If you get a max contract super-star it could be worth it, but if you don't
you only have $16M to play with. With that you have to sign a center, re-sign or replace Felton, and re-sign or replace Crawford, all for $16M. That’s stretching the cap space pretty far. What we do will probably depend on how much the Blazers want to retain Crawford and Felton, and how much they want to take another shot at Oden.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 30, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
"Perhaps situation grows sour enough in OKC for Westbrook to leave. Or, NJ cannot pull a deal for a second all-star and Deron Williams bolt."
Yet, neither guy will come to Portland.
So, even though cap space is nice, there’s the rub.
"I Am Mine"
Cap space is more than just "nice" in today's NBA
It hasn’t materialized yet, with the benefits of the amnesty clause yet to be exhausted by most teams, but we will, in the near future, start to see more and more trades like the one that sent Kyrie Irving and Baron Davis to Cleveland, or Mehmet Okur to New Jersey.
And, frankly, your remark that none of the top FA’s will want to come to Portland is basically a straw man. Even those who really want the Blazers to try and sign a max-salary worthy player understand that cap space can be used in much more dynamic ways than merely through FA signings.
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yeah well Westbrook seems to be a head case.
If Durant can’t get along with him …
Plus he has those really big nostrils.
He is almost as painful to look at as Babbitt.
That doesn't sound like a contender
unless you think Oden can summon his body to stay healthy for a playoff run.
Paul Allen, the 2011 Trail Blazers Owner/GM
Yeah, there's no sure path to becoming a contender any more with Roy gone.
If you put all your eggs in one basket trying to get another super-star player, you still have to wait to replace the pieces you lose even in the unlikely event you get that super-star. If you don’t get him, you may really be screwed for what you lost in that attempt (see NJ). On the other hand, if you add Oden and Joel Freeland to the current team you might be getting close, or Oden never comes back and you sit in mediocrity.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 30, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
You know..yes Roy was a great player. But the Blazers weren't contenders with him.
When he was playing well.
Perhaps the team as is is actually better than one with a healthy Roy.
I for one like watching an entire TEAM play.
It may not be as easy for other teams to scout when one player isn’t the obvious choice for whatever….
I actually think that the Blazers have a good chance to get out of the first round this year.
I like Wallace and want him to stay.
And Felton seems just fine.
So does JC
I wish Camby was younger and stronger because he is great at teaching and coaching…hope he stays with the organization (coach) and just retires as a Blazer,
Would be great if the Blazers could somehow get a good center and not have to sell the farm when Camby retires. Keep Camby at the Veteran’s minimum and bring over Freeman?
Wah - waaaaaahhh...
formerly known as Matthews vs. Roy... fight!
by Respect_these_years on Dec 29, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
It's a contract year for Wallace
and you’re going to see him playing lights out for much of the season. That being said, do you think he will keep that pace up once an extension is signed? I’m not saying Wallace will eventually slack, but a players’ body can only take so much abuse, and I don’t see a guy his age being able to play at this pace for multiple years. I’d love it if he proved me wrong though.
If he can physically play, he will play the way we've seen
He’s been doing it for years. It’s why Charlotte fans were so pissed when they traded him.
I’d like to see him resign for 3 or 4 years for however much it takes to keep him.
by hoodieNation on Dec 28, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, and he's got such freakish athleticism
that even if he loses his speed and hops a little, he’ll still be average for his position, plus way stronger and longer than his peers. Just because he plays rough doesn’t mean he’s shortening his career.
I mean, look at Grant Hill.
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What about Wallace's play suggests that he knows how to slack off on the court?
I’ve seen or heard nothing about him that suggests that he doesn’t put it all on the court so curious.
did you even read before you replied?
I never said he would slack off on the court.
by BornWinner on Dec 28, 2011 9:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Ok you didn't but the "contract year" kind of implied it
Although strictly speaking he has an option for next season so maybe it isn’t …
by somanluna1 on Dec 28, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Sure, sure.
We’ve got Nic too though. Are we going to re-sign two guys at the same time who essentially play the same position? That’s Whitsett-esque. I approve though. As a Blazer fan, I want to watch both of these guys play. They make the game look fun.
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 28, 2011 6:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions
If so, he needs to play more then.
If anything just to showcase him and sell high. I’d regret losing Batum though. I get the feeling we’re only seeing a scratch of what Nic is capable of.
agreed
if we’re gonna trade him, we need to show him off a bit
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Dec 28, 2011 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
LOL.
For what? He’s on a rookie scale deal.
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 28, 2011 6:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Woohoo!
Think of the Euro stash we could put together.
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 28, 2011 6:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I'm pretty sure
the plan is to draft every starting guard in spain.
by AR-15 on Dec 28, 2011 6:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If Buchanan does that
he’ll have a whole lot of Ex-Spain-in’ to do when he talks to PA!
(groan)
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 28, 2011 6:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 7 recs
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
excuse me. ahem.
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pre-emptively
save minnesota from themselves eh?
by moflow on Dec 28, 2011 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
or maybe to use them as trade bait to minnesota for better players
Jeff Pendergraph:
FGM - 3
FGA - 111
Min - 30
Reb - 10
by Tofu Anonymous on Dec 28, 2011 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
10 Spanish PGs for 1 Kevin Love
Now all we need is the rest of the roster to get into "how can everybody help Nicco and Oden" mode. -- Oden Mad, Oden Smash! Sep 29, 2010 7:47 PM
by LaoTzu on Dec 29, 2011 1:01 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Even if they sign the extension, it doesn't mean
that under appropriate deal Wallace will not be trade.
There is another possibility.They can play at the same time – Batum as 2,Gerald as 3.
This would be a winning combination for the team.
by prostofen on Dec 29, 2011 12:41 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Batum and GW together look damn good
keep them together and play them together!
by blazerblaze on Dec 28, 2011 6:37 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Only reason I'm kinda ok with Batum playing the 2
is because Wes$ doesn’t have handles either, and Batum and G3 complement each other very well.
Wes doesn't have handles
Batum’s “handles” are golden by comparison…
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 28, 2011 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
ill disagree with that
but its not a big deal. Should I have put a no offense before I said that?
Batum & Wallace 4EVAH
totally wicked and sick. unnatural even, so wicked and sick it is. totally unnatural and wicked
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by scaredcow on Dec 28, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
duh!
No offense to my brothers/sisters here, but a lot of y’all had no idea who GW was b4 he came to town. Shame on u. He plays hard ALWAYS. Contract year or not. He will be our best player on the floor 50% of the time. I’d love to extend him. He’s only 29.
The biggest kind of injury for our team, IMO, is one that affects Camby. That would be detrimental. Go Crash!! ahem… Predator!
by GetAngryPutSomeStankOnIt on Dec 28, 2011 6:06 PM PST reply actions
dude if you knew him in the Biblical sense you'd be a believer
kind of like Moses on Mt. Sinai and all that.
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I'm pretty sure we're all believers
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by HailOden! on Dec 28, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Not so sure of that.
As I recall, a majority of posters were ecstatic that we landed Wallace. It was seen as a bit of a coup of sorts by management.
Yeah pretty much everyone here knew Crash, and had been following the trade rumors for a year.
This is a knowledgeable crew, and Crash was not an unknown quantity.
by Timmay! on Dec 28, 2011 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
There has always been a pretty large Wallace contingent here
Most of us thought that we’d never be able to get him is all.
by Wotan on Dec 28, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, his name was even brought up during the 2009 trade deadline where KP wasted the RLEC.
"I Am Mine"
by AK1984 on Dec 28, 2011 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
PA, I suppose
Now all we need is the rest of the roster to get into "how can everybody help Nicco and Oden" mode. -- Oden Mad, Oden Smash! Sep 29, 2010 7:47 PM
RLEC became the cap space that was used to sign Andre Miller.
Thanks to Boston, Memphis, and Miles the Blazers would not have had any cap space without RLEC.
Management simply chose to use RLEC as a free agency tool instead of a trade tool.
Who's that tromping across my bedge?
by Troll Blazer on Dec 29, 2011 7:43 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Why is it that the phrase "no offense"
always seems to precede accusatory, assumption-laden statements?
Hehe. No offense taken btw. Thanks for your concern though;)
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 28, 2011 6:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'd have to guess that you haven't been around here much...
Good % of the posters here regularly dreamt about getting guys like Battier, Iguodola, GW, and Landry for years. Of course, we cannot forget everyone’s favorite white PG, Kirk Hinrich.
The cake was a lie.
Well, I left CP3 off the list as even casual fans know of his awesomeness.
However, not many fanbase rosterbate about Carl Landry.
The cake was a lie.
Leaving CP3 off the list leads me to believe that Stern will retroactively rescind the Clipper trade and CP3 will be ours!
And that will attract Howard to sign for one year for the minimum.
And with Oden coming back…
Now all we need is the rest of the roster to get into "how can everybody help Nicco and Oden" mode. -- Oden Mad, Oden Smash! Sep 29, 2010 7:47 PM
I'm reposting this because it rules, and I love me some Crash as well...
“Gerald Wallace’s jersey is the most durable in the NBA. It’s stretch-proof, rip-proof, fire-proof, and, most importantly, Gerald Wallace-proof.”
http://geraldwallacefacts.blogspot.com/
GO BLAZURRRRS!
by patrickroy on Dec 28, 2011 6:13 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Gerald Wallace doesn’t get concussions. His brain just shuts down due to a mass influx of awesomeness.
concussions are very serious injuries
one should seek medical attention immediately after a strong jolt to the head.
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Gerald Wallace's opponents need medical attension after he give them a humongous blast of his awesomeness!!!!
LET THE LAMONSTER ERA BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's what she said
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Dec 28, 2011 9:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
"There is no charge for awesomeness."
Who's that tromping across my bedge?
by Troll Blazer on Dec 29, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions
Gerald Wallace once dunked a basketball so hard it turned into a bag of pork rinds.
Now all we need is the rest of the roster to get into "how can everybody help Nicco and Oden" mode. -- Oden Mad, Oden Smash! Sep 29, 2010 7:47 PM
by LaoTzu on Dec 29, 2011 1:11 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Jackie Chan can’t believe that Gerald Wallace just did that.
Now all we need is the rest of the roster to get into "how can everybody help Nicco and Oden" mode. -- Oden Mad, Oden Smash! Sep 29, 2010 7:47 PM
that's great
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Dec 29, 2011 11:31 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I find it hard to believe
that anything is actually Gerald Wallace-proof…
If this means more of Batum at SG, I'm all for it.
If this means more of Batum off the bench, I can’t support it. Kid’s got too much potential to sit behind GW for another contract.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
I'm all for Nic playing
the 2. When I heard Roy go out that was what I was hoping for. With Crawford there, he can mentor him in that role! Next year if we sign Crash to an extension: Felton, Batum, Wallace, LA and a center to be named later… I’m all for that!
by vanillagorrila on Dec 28, 2011 7:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I have a FanPost up about this right now called Best Potential Lineup, With Poll
I made the point that Batum and Wallace is a deadly duo, and that a lineup of Crawford, Nico, Predator, LA and Camby would be stellar; which ended up being proved right last night because of Matthews back.
Check it out before it goes away. Rec me, maybe…please…too desperate?
Good News
Wallace is so underrated. Even if his skills diminish with age he can still play a Kurt Thomas esque role.
Buchanan seems to be doing a good job. I wouldn’t mind if he keeps the GM job. Nolan Smith has showed some flashes too.
by CoolRam on Dec 28, 2011 7:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions
no doubt, buchanan seems like a great filler untill roy gets his gm degree.
I dont see GW going Anywhere. he is our best player and unless we get some crazy 4 1st picks and tank this season, he is our all star.
I agree with your best player comment
I love me some beast mode LMA. But G3 is the best player on this roster.
Aldridge is still our best player in terms of sheer basketball skill.
Wallace is undoubtedly the team MVP through 2 games, however. I feel like his play has been underrated most of his career because his play hasn’t led to wins for his teams. He has a real chance to change that with the Blazers for seasons to come if he signs an extension…
Extend Gerald Wallace through the 2014-2015 season and subsequently swing a deal for Andre Iguodala.
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/5961840
The combination of Crash & Iggy at the wings would be spectacular. Words couldn’t even begin to describe it.
"I Am Mine"
by AK1984 on Dec 28, 2011 8:08 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
That sounds like an awful lot of non outside shooting
on the other hand, whoever we were playing would score like 0 points.
Go for maximum offense and trade the whole back court for Monte Ellis and Ray Allen.
by Oden Mad, Oden Smash! on Dec 29, 2011 1:30 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I like it.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Jan 1, 2012 1:15 AM PST up reply actions
Gerald Wallace and Iggy can both hit 3s at a decent clip
about as good as our current squad, honestly
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Dec 28, 2011 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
Assuming that outside shooting and going up against zone defenses would not be a problem
I highly doubt they would part with both Speights and Iggy in a deal like that.
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Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Yeah, I just saw that he hasn't logged any minutes yet
Which is strange, since they’re thin at the 5, and Nikola Vucevic (I probably just slaughtered his name) only got a few minutes in one game.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Speaking of Phillies big men
Spencer Hawes against us?!?! Looked like a legit NBA player :O
Paul Allen, the 2011 Trail Blazers Owner/GM
Dude, his stats have been legit against everyone so far!
It’s kinda weird.
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Uniting those two has been a dream of mine for years
That would be crushing brutality of the highest order.
I like that.
Before we pull the trigger, I’d try a similar deal for Rajon Rondo to see if Ainge is dumb enough to pull the trigger. Also I’d try to keep Camby for this years playoff run & get him to resign next year for vet min. Then we could also bring in Kenyon Martin in addition to Kurt Thomas for the ultimate old big man team.
Paul Allen, the 2011 Trail Blazers Owner/GM
Just another smart move by management
This is all about gathering as much information as you can before making offers.
As they are supposedly in negotation with Nico right now, it only makes sense to begin the conversation about the most likely alternative. If by talking to his agent you know Crash will sign a max deal if offered, you can factor that into the decision re: Batum’s offer. If you know Crash is gone… maybe that changes what you;re willing to give Nic.
It doesn’t hurt, either, for Nico’s camp to know that the Blazers may have a very good alternative, so Nico would be less likely to play hardball…
Really.. who's running the show?
I’m not sure if it’s Chad, or if the Vulcans hired somebody we don’t know about who actually knows hoops (because it sure doesn’t sound like anybody else above Chad in the hierarchy), but this post Cho administration has been wildly successful, if early returns are any indication.
- Got the superstar GW for scraps (nice scraps, but in the NBA, scraps nonetheless)
- Signed Jamal Crawford for the MLE
- Signed Kurt Thomas (for the min?)
- Signed the Rhino (for the min?)
All deals which don’t cripple the club, and give us ultimate flexibility next year?
Basically, they built a deep, tough, hard-working, hustling TEAM. and seem to be working to achieve long-term excellence by adding Nico and Crash to the Aldridge/Matthews family.
Who’s doin it?
must be YOU
Gee You Are YOU
G-U-R-U
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by scaredcow on Dec 28, 2011 8:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
of course, it doesn't matter
if they do the right thing. I have no problem with the Crash/Nic/LMA core program.
I think what PA wants is someone who does all the research and brings in the compelling arguements of what can/needs to be done. He is living the fantasy lots of us have when we suggest trades/draft choices. We (hopefully) listen, learn, even research, and develop opinions to make the team better. And, he WANTS to believe. Just make an exciting case. Of course, what can be better than excitement on the court and the Rose Garden jumping (when are L@kers comming to town ?). Yeah, we want to keep Wallace, and I am on the Batum bandwagon as well. I am really amped about current developments, including ‘new’ Nate. The Blazers are fun again.
Cho traded for Gerald
otherwise I agree
though they did not draft Faried which makes me sad :(
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
whose running the show ?
PA is always running the show, in the sense of final decision, but he delegates the research, scouting, CBA analysis, and basically has a panel bring together the plan, which if exciting enough for our ‘’fan owner" sold! He has declared that he needs to be engaged, which is cool.
So the guys putting together the plan are critical to creating a good vision. It could well be that Chad and the scouts have a good dynamic going that produces good plans.
Nate is in there too. And now we seem to have ’new Nate’, who may be breaking out of some rigid constraints, perhaps by necessity, but for whatever reason, a welcome change I hope continues. I don’t think PA wants some guy to come in and ‘take over’.
For all we know management is just trying to keep Wallace happy
I am sure he wasn’t thrilled to be mentioned in the Orlando trade rumors, best way for management to mend fences is to engage in contract extension talks. They know if he mopes and doesn’t play well his trade value isn’t likely to increase (although I think we all agree GW be too much of a pro to go that route).
I would much rather have GW/Batum than GW/Matthews. Of course, I don’t have much confidence that Batum will really blossom until he has a coach that will let him play and make mistakes.
Also, GW isn’t exactly a “skill” player. I think his productivity will drop off drastically when his body starts to age, which would make me reluctant to sign him to a longer term deal, even if the short term returns are as good as they have been through the first 2 games.
Signing Batum = big mistake
We should sign Wallace, trade Batum, and make a max offer to lure Kevin Love to return home. We have a ton of cap space next year and a “potential” in Batum who would be a mistake to throw big money at. We have a legit opportunity to land a big time player next year to pair with the rest of our roster. Crash fits into that picture perfectly as well.
I have thought Kevin Love would fit well next to LMA
Put LMA at the 5 and Love at the 4. But I hate Kevin from his high school days, so I have moved away from that a bit.
I'd like Kris Kardashian-Humphries or Smoove for that role
Smoove, especially, would be awesome in between Crash and LMA. The few banger 5’s in the NBA (Bynum, Bogut, Nene, Dwight) might hurt us, but no other team could score on that frontcourt.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
I don't know that I agree on the title
But I’d love some Kevin Love. I really thought he’d be a flop when he was drafted, but I’ve since been fairly impressed.
"The game was delayed for over 15 minutes with 5:07 left in the second quarter after France's Nicolas Batum, who plays for the Portland Trail Blazers, dunked and twisted the rim. Volunteers and officials scrambled to put a new rim on the basket and reattach a net."
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/olybb/news/story?id=5509394
Have to believe this is a press move coming from Wallace’s camp, or some knee-jerk mop job after the reported trade. Signing Wallace to any sort of long term deal for even what he’s making now is a bad move. This guy is only going to get worse after this year, and a guy like Wallace does not age well in the NBA. He has played extremely well in two games this year against teams who play terrible defense. He also disappeared in games 1 – 5 of the playoffs last year.
by heybabydrinkyourmilk on Dec 28, 2011 10:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions
sighhh
why???
we can do it this summer once we figure out what else we can get in free agency.
PHILLY!
As long as this doesn't hurt flexibility for the summer, it sounds great
What does the extension deadline look like for GW, since he has an option year?
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
Blazers got to deal with Crash before Batum
This will really be the first test run with no true GM….these will be tricky with Batum and Crash both needing deals. Not sure we can keep both, fit-wise.
I think Wallace is Nate’s ideal SF and how can you not love what he does on the court. I am not sure Batum will ever become more than a nice fit SF, good player-but not a difference maker/game changer night to night.
Exactly.
To use a Simmons analogy, Batum is change and our cap space could allow us to acquire a dollar bill type player – which is what we need if we truly want a title shot. His potential and age makes him a good trade option, and Wallace’s age and proven talent makes him an excellent piece for our 2-3 year run, provided we can land a Love/Westbrook/etc dollar bill. Time to go for it with a big name and stop hyping our guys with potential.
by twbivens on Dec 29, 2011 8:27 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Huh....
I love Wallace. And he is playing All-Star lights out right now. I’m not against him being a Blazer for a longer period of time BUT….
I think right now? You’re buying high. A player looks good, is playing well, and many fans always start chanting to lock the guy into a long term deal or extension. I think with Wallace you must factor in his age, and his playing style. The same factors that make him a great player, are the same factors that I think will make his game fade fast as he ages. You simply cannot play the game Wallace plays as an older player…
Right now? Wallace is in his prime. I think he has 2 maybe 3 more years at this level or near. But as much as I like him, I wouldn’t want to commit to more than 2…possible 3 years.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
buying high of a player in his prime 'happens'
At some point we have to stop ‘trading for the future’ if what we have is working, and Wallace is certainly working with Nate and team, which is huge. I am hoping Gerald and Nic will establish a good dynamic on the court, with Nic 2 or 3 depending on lineups. Time should tell. Our team is more fun than most now, and Wallace is a critical (‘core’) piece of that. Plus, he seems happy here, which should help a bit too, as far as not squeezing out every penny contract time (as unbelievable as this may be to some, money is not everything).
The option year is Wallace's.
Signing him gives us the ability to keep him or trade him with an in-place contract, which is more valuable to us – and the team we might trade him to. After all, if you don’t resign him now, what happens if he decides not to pick up his option?
As far as trading/not trading Batum, it looks to me like it may be a Matthews vs. Batum decision – particularly if Batum plays a lot more 2. Ideally, we want a player who’s solid playing both the 2 & 3. Saves money.
In any case, Batum has gotten plenty of playing time since drafted. He was the designated starter the first couple of years at SF. When Webster went down he was a rookie no one knew who was gifted the starting role at SF. Only since we picked up Wallace has this become more of an issue.
Sign Gerald to a long term deal, try to give Batum alot of run this year to showcase
his skills and up his trade value. Then trade Batum, at the very least we could score a high draft pick for him. I know a top 5 was offered for him before. Then draft/trade for a solid big to team up with LMA. This is probably why I am not a GM but I think Batum will never hit his ceiling with GW here because the Predator is just too good to not get minutes.
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luv Wallace but.....
luv wallace but the other night was ugly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







































