2011-12 Season Preview: The Forwards
Yesterday we took a look at Portland's guard corps as a prelude to the upcoming season. Today we switch to forwards...clearly the crown jewel of the Blazer lineup.
As far as pure talent goes, the Blazers can bring their top three forwards to any party in the league and not have to wait in line. LaMarcus Aldridge is coming off of a career season and is guaranteed to be named an All-Star in the Western Conference this year. 22 points and 9 rebounds in iron-man performances--in terms of games played and minutes played both--have earned him the central spot on the roster. He is the Portland Trail Blazers and he's stepping up his performance to back that assertion. His mid-range game is still beautiful but he's added a couple back-to-the-basket and driving moves to keep defenses off-balance. Those will be important this year because of the utter lack of a post game anywhere on Portland's roster. Unless the Blazers send a wing down in the block, the interior will be Aldridge's and Aldridge's alone. Outside of the fast break he will bear the burden of scoring the only easy points the Blazers will see. LaMarcus' defense has come along adequately. His offensive rebounding is superb, defensive so-so. This will be another pressure point on his game. He'll get help from his fellow forwards and Marcus Camby but he'll be expected to make rebounding a strong part of his court presence. If he doesn't the Blazer attack may never get off the ground.
Gerald Wallace is also one of the finer forwards in the league. His energy is frenetic. He backs down from no-one. He scores with amazing efficiency. You notice him every time he takes the floor. He looked superb in his brief Blazer tenure in 2010-11. One wonders what he'll produce when he's more familiar with the team and/or when the team starts playing more of his style. His defense may well be the best on the roster. He generates steals. His rebounding is fantastic for a small forward...though the Blazers may continue to play him as a 4 as much as a 3. If there's a fault in his game it's the distance shot, perhaps coupled with a tendency to turn over the ball.
Nicolas Batum remains full of promise, buoyed by a strong performance in Europe during the off-season. He's known as an on-ball defender. His offensive game is fluid, if not always effective. He's like a cat going to the hoop. You think you have him contained, you blink, then he's dunking it. Thus far he's been more cool cat than pouncing tiger, though...the main criticism of his game. He showed a fantastic three-point shot in 2009-10 but the touch left him, along with a big chunk of offensive efficiency, in 2010-11. The Blazers will be looking for Batum to step up in the coming season, returning to his form of two years ago while shouldering even more responsibility. He, not Wallace, is the hope for this team's future. They'll make as much room for him as he's willing to grab. If he doesn't come to the fore, however, Wallace will eat his minutes like crab legs at a buffet. This will be a revealing season for Batum. His future could include a star on his locker or he could be a really nifty 7th man. We'll have to see how much of the moment he can seize.
On paper this trio looked formidable. The big questions are how they'll fit together and how well they fit the Blazers' needs. Each player is versatile, even more well-rounded than the Blazer guards. Batum and Aldridge play well together, Batum and Wallace superbly. The Aldridge-Wallace combo will be the interesting question. They could become a defensive nightmare for the opponent or an offensive nightmare for the Blazers. One of the recurring themes as we peruse the Portland roster is lack of outside shooting. If I'm lining up against Aldridge, Wallace, and any combination of Blazer guards I simply guard the floor 20 feet and in, let them shoot, and then refuse the offensive rebounds upon which the Blazers rely so heavily. At that point the Blazers are relying on the three-point production of Nicolas Batum and Wesley Matthews. As an opponent I respect those players but I'm also comfortable with the Blazers trying to win games through them, particularly from the arc. The same small lack (streaky distance shooting) spread across the whole roster becomes a crisis. Even the best of Portland's players--which their forwards certainly are--don't alleviate that crisis for Portland's offense.
The forwards behind Portland's main three barely merit mention. Luke Babbitt is...Luke Babbitt. He needs to hit every shot he takes to justify his presence on the court at this point and he's far from that. Craig Smith? Nice enough player but a deep bench guy. Kurt Thomas will split time between forward and center. He's a great veteran playing in relief but he's not going to bail out the team if the best players don't produce.
Plenty of hope rides on Portland's forwards coming into the season. The guards will provide plenty of frosting but the cake itself will rise or fall with these three guys. Are they enough? What's your call? Share your impressions of Portland's 3's and 4's below.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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I reject the premise..
that the season rests on LMA, Wallace, and Batum. I hope the are the solid rock upon which this team is based. They are the predictable ones. The question marks arise at the center position, primarily. And whether or not Ray Felton and Crawford look as good in March as they do in December.
Center isn't a question mark, unless you are guessing the date of Oden's return
San’s Oden, center is not going to a production position for the Blazers. Occasional 18’ J’s from
Thomas; occasional acrobatic layins and dunks from Johnson.
Oden would, of course, change everything.
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by blacknoiseNW on Dec 22, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
NEDO MEANS NOTHING IN NO LANGUAGE
Woops, sorry I didn’t mean to capitalize all that, but never mind I am too lazy to go back and correct it.
What I meant to say that nedo is oden spelled backward and you can spell it backwards or forwards or any which way but in the end you are not gonna get a basketball player out of it and you won’t get anything meaningful at all. Because Oden is not an athlete. His body will not allow athletic stress. He will not play significant minutes in the NBA or any other league.
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Wish you told that to PA and KP in 2007
before the draft.
That’s when it would have been helpful.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
by RedUniInLA on Dec 22, 2011 10:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Interestingly enough, you can spell "done"...
and node for what it’s worth.
by SabasTheHut on Dec 22, 2011 11:58 PM PST up reply actions
And you can't spell Eden unless you willfully ignore information
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by Respect_these_years on Dec 23, 2011 12:37 AM PST up reply actions
I reject the premise that LMA is the only low post scorer
the reason Craig Smith was brought in was low post scoring. Carl Landry fans rejoice we got his scoring for much less money. Rhino has avg 16 points per 36 for his career and hit 55% of his field goals, he also draws fouls. Smith will be able to take some of the pressure off LMA. Playing the LMA and Rhino together will allow LMA to cover the best post player on defense while simply helping spread the floor for Rhino on defense.
Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin
Agreed. The Rhino is an effective low post scorer.
That was the first thing I thought of when I read this post. The premise about LMA being the only productive post player is no longer as applicable as it once was. If Rhino can maintain his production while complementing LMA… this, my friends, will be “Magic, pure magic.”
Seriously, though, this combination of LMA and Rhino may turn out to be brilliant. LMA has the length and the offensive arsenal while Rhino has the strength and the rebounding prowess. The more I contemplate this the more excited I am. Thank you Biph for alerting me to this.
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Productive isn't exactly the word I would use to describe Rhino's inside scoring
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by blacknoiseNW on Dec 22, 2011 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
Rhino wasn't signed to be the 2nd option for low post scoring.
He’s going to have to far exceed expectations to be thought of that way. He’ll be in the rotation to rest LMA and provide depth, but I don’t see him as a guy the Blazers are going to lean on and run a bunch of plays for. I hope he surprises me. I know he has skills, but there are a lot of guys who are in line to take shots before the rhino.
by 52therim on Dec 23, 2011 7:09 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Rhino is a below avg rebounder
Rhino is a good post scorer below avg rebounder and middling defender
He has avg 16 points 8 rebounds and 5 fouls per 36 throughout his career.
When LMA and Rhino are on the floor together Crash should be on the floor too, to cover for the lack of defensive rebounding from the post.
Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin
Agree with blacknoise, 52 and biph.
It will be a long season if we have to depend on the Rhino. Somewhere Nico needs time too. Nate will get rotations done. He always gets the most from the least.
All I want for Christmas is a healthy Blazers !
just win baby !
Smith will add some inside scoring, but Wallace will produce more "inside" than anyone else besides LMA
LMA: 36% of his shots from “inside”, producing 7.2 ppg (increases to 44% in “clutch” time)
Wallace: 41% for 6.3 points (goes down to 25% in clutch time)
Smith: 51% for 2.8 points
Batum and Mathews actually score more “inside” than Smith, Camby or Thomas – although as a lesser percentage of shots taken (except in case of Thomas – who deplores inside scoring).
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by blacknoiseNW on Dec 22, 2011 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
in a normal year I agree
but I think depth will matter more this year Smith’s 15 -20mpg vs Wallace’s 30-35 mpg will narrow that gap.
Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin
I think they'll click together better than the guards
LMA is used to deferring to Roy, Crash used to being a team/hustle guy, Batum’s still a rook compared to many on the squad. They should work out a nice balance together, especially on D. The question is how they’ll click with the outside guys, and if Portland can get a system going that consistently frees up our sub-par outside shooters to make teams pay for stacking the paint. (Is it just me, or have the Blazers lacked outside shooting since Porter/Ainge? Rhetorical question. I know it’s been a concern for TWO DECADES aarghhhhh)
Steve Goodman lives.
James Jones
shot 40% from the 3 point line as a Blazer.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
blazers were one of the best 3 point shooting teams
During the 54 win season
66-0 baby
by thomasikehara on Dec 23, 2011 12:19 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
I'm excited about the forwards this season
our two best players are are starting forwards. Do I wish our two best players were 3-5 slots away from each other instead? Yes.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
Interesting...
Are you talking basketball philosophy when you say, “I wish our two best players were 3-5 slots away from each other” or are you just lamenting the unfortunate career trajectories of Roy and Oden?
by SabasTheHut on Dec 23, 2011 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
He is talking bad math
I think he is saying that he’d rather have a good PG and PF or PG and C. That would translate to “I wish our two best players were 3-4 slots away from each other.”
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by Respect_these_years on Dec 23, 2011 12:39 AM PST up reply actions
Correct
I think that teams with the best chance to win it all tend to have their two best players at the 1-4, 1-5 or 2-5 slots, which gives them each more room to do their work in guard-land and in the low post, respectively.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
Nic is so much better at this stage than Travis was 5 years ago
He’s way more than a nifty 7th man, but way less than proven. Big year for him.
really from what i see it is not the lack of inside scoring that losses the games for the Blazers.
It is the fact no one can shoot outside consistently. Blazers are much too streaky from the 3 point line. The reason they just lost to Utah is proof of that.
Completely agree with this
LMA and even Dre could post up last year. No-one could stretch the defense consistently though. We$ was getting better and better but even his 40% was terrible on some nights balanced with “can’t possibly miss” on others.
This year LMA can post up. Craig Smith can post guys up off the bench. We have guys that will cut to the rim in Crash, Nico and Wes. We have guys that can create their shots in Crawford and even Felton. We just need these guys to shoot consistently from the perimeter to open things up and keep the offense rolling.
If we need an extra shooting coach or a freaking sports psychologist…whatever it takes. No more Trail Blazers brickfest in 2011/2012 please.
Team's that aren't dominant inside (Blazers) need outside shooting to space the floor...
…and allow an effective inside attack…
For that matter – any inside presence needs an outside presence to thrive.
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by blacknoiseNW on Dec 22, 2011 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
Yup. Even Dwight Howard struggles when getting doubled
or worse.
The key to beating the double+ is good passing to the open guys. If they can’t convert, then life isn’t worth living.
Yep, but Orlando tried to surround him with threats from 3
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by Respect_these_years on Dec 23, 2011 12:39 AM PST up reply actions
Another factor to consider here
is that outside shooting stretches defense and makes for long misses increasing the chances of getting offensive boards. Of course, this only works if teams respect your shooting enough to close out hard on your long shots.
by SabasTheHut on Dec 23, 2011 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
LMA will prove himself an elite PF if.....
he can continue to work on his game facing the basket in the 5-10 ft range. He has showed great foot work but often times he spins away for a fade away too much. With his length I feel a quicker release would really help his game. Maybe a little jab step and up over the top. Much like how Phoenix killed us in the playoffs two years ago with amare’s face up game. And lets see how Felton can work on his alley oops with LMA. Dre was a beast last year with those perfect set ups to LaMarcus. Hopefully Felton can be dishing out those sweet passes in the lane to our big guys. LOL Ray Felton feeding sweet dishes, like cupcake sweet.
I believe that LMA is consistant enough midrange shooter
That pick and rolls, pops and slipping the pick will be effective scoring. When Camby is playing the high low post is effective, but the bottom line is we need to make our shots in order to keep the defense honest.
hg
I think it's interesting that fans want LMA to be a different player.
I’m surprised at games when LMA takes a perimeter shot, there are groans all around. The “take it inside” crowd is pretty vocal. Do fans want LMA to only play an interior game so he doesn’t fall in love with his jumper? It seems to me that hitting a few jumpers will help open up the interior for him. I think his interior game is more effective, mostly because he gets to the foul line, but I wish I didn’t hear the groans at every jumper.
by 52therim on Dec 23, 2011 7:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
for my part, it's because LMA is so much better close in
Last year, LMA’s shot selection didn’t actually change that much. He still shoots about 65% jumpers.
With his quickness and length, however, he is an excellent catch and shoot player moving toward the basket. We just don’t see nearly enough ogf him slipping picks and diving into the paint, creating positional mismatches with offtheball movement.
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by blacknoiseNW on Dec 23, 2011 9:08 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
IMO most fans would not want to change anything about LMA
Maybe bulk up a little but that puts more stress on his body and KNEES. And that would decrease his quickness. Overall LMA is a very complete player, the shot selection is only in question when he is getting switched from PF to C so much. The shot depends on what position he is at and what type of team is on the floor with him. And dont think there is a lot of PF’s in the game that are switched around and so versatile as LMA.
Come on Pau GaSoft,(why they rely on bynum at C plus no odom anymore) amare(why they got chandler) could not handle all the switched defenders and positions at any given moment.
by Jared Gaskill on Dec 23, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
I've always felt that LMA takes two kinds of jumpers.
There are open face-up feet set jumpers, and there are turnaround jumpers with a defender on him. The former is a great shot for LMA, but the latter is an efficient shot only if one’s name starts with D and ends with irk Nowitzki.
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
He’s like a cat going to the hoop. You think you have him contained, you blink, then he’s dunking it.
I have literally seen a cat do that before.
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Dec 23, 2011 6:40 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Wallace and Batum
I like the play when both of these guys are on the court, not sure how Nate can make that work for more than 8-12 minutes per game though. Having them out there is good on both ends of the court.
I see Wallace as trade bait all season unfortunately. Especially after they lock Batum up in a long term deal next month.
I am asking,
With LMA gaining muscle and strength, is it possible to play him longer moments at the 5 to let Batum and Wallace on the floor at the same time. that would clear Camby for more time in the second unit with Tomas or Craig. I can see all kinds of combinations, but in the past the only time LMA could play five effectively was when we could go small ball. Plus Wallace doesn’t like playing the four.
hg
I'm on board with LMA playing 20mpg at the 5
And Wallace 20mpg at the 4 alongside him…
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by blacknoiseNW on Dec 23, 2011 9:10 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Great, so now two guys are playing out of position for 40 mpg??
I like the small lineup too, but they are going to be burnt toast if they both play against bigger guys for half their minutes. A couple of minutes at the end of the quarters is what I’m hoping for; run like crazy, then get the quarter break, and do it again…
I think LA strength is his mid range jumper. He can hit that so consistently. He has yet to really handle the double team in the post. Some are his teammates knowing how to make them pay for doubling, but LA is really good at pick and pop. Much harder to double under those circumstances. The feeder in to the post then needs to cut, much like Batum did last year and LA would hit him on ocassion for an easy layup. Hopefully LA will figure this out as the year goes on, but time will tell. The groans are when he has to turn and shoot, he is much better with that shot when he starts facing the basket.
I'm not sure if the outside shooting is more of a concern
Or the lack of interior defense. I think a team can get away with spotty outside shooting to a certain extent if it plays great defense (e.g. the 90’s New York Knicks and Miami Heat and Duncan era-Spurs) but no amount of great outside shooting will consistently make up for poor defense.
Of course, if you have both you are almost an automatic title contender (e.g. the Bad Boy Pistons, Jordan era-Bulls . . .). It’s unclear if the Blazers have either, but I think their calling card is going to have to be defense.
"You can walk away from someone who doesn’t love you. And you can walk away from someone you don’t love. But when the love is mutual," Roy said. "The hardest thing is to walk away."
Babbitt = Tracy Murray
For those who weren’t around then, Tracy may have been the best shooter the Blazers ever had on their roster, at least in practice. And that’s the key. You’d watch him warm up and he was shooting and sinking 3’s WITH EITHER HAND. Zip, zip, zip. And then, put him in a game with a defender in the same area code and….clank.
While it was heart-warming to see the pre-season game where the team rallied around Luke when he dove into the crowd for a loose ball, and both players and coaches encouraging him after he clanked a few threes, telling him to relax…he has all the appearances of a head case.
He will be gone soon….a wasted draft pick.
Somewhere, Tracy Murry is feeling insulted.
"You can walk away from someone who doesn’t love you. And you can walk away from someone you don’t love. But when the love is mutual," Roy said. "The hardest thing is to walk away."
For some reason that pick smacks of Chad Buchanan to me
Sorry, Chad. But it wasn’t a sleeper hit.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
I actually think that one had more to do with Nate McMillan
Here’s why: Nate is the only guy that keeps talking about how we’ve needed someone to fill that “Travis Outlaw-role.” He’s said it with regard to both Dante Cunningham and Luke Babbitt. And, he’s the guy, right before that draft, who said that the team needed, more than anything, more and better shooters.
Chad Buchanan, we’ve heard, was the one who “found” Nic Batum (a guy who did not project well statistically, but seemed to be a capable defender), and seems (based on my reading between the lines) to have influenced the Elliot Williams pick, another athletic, upside guy who prided himself for his defense in college. Buchanan was also one of the FO guys (remember, he was director of COLLEGE scouting) who had been high on Kenneth Faried since he was in HS.
I may be completely off-base, and am open to criticism, but Chad seems to prefer athletic defenders with upside, whereas Nate favors the reputed shooters.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Re: Gerald Wallace:
He scores with amazing efficiency.
He does? I see a guy who often settles for jumpers because that’s what the D gives him. I see a player who has referred to himself as a “guard”, even though his handle is basically a straight line to the basket handle (no shame there, but he’s no Carmelo Anthony) and his jump shot is streakier than a race track after Dukes Of Hazard night. He’s totally efficient when the offense has flow, sure, but that’s not up to him, it’s up to Felton and the bigs.
The Blazers will be looking for Batum to step up in the coming season, returning to his form of two years ago while shouldering even more responsibility
The problem with Nic getting more minutes is the fact that Crawford is just not a capable point guard, but the Blazers need his ball handling out there. So it’s unlikely Nic will get a lot of minutes at the “2” spot, which would really maximize his potential. Instead, I think it more likely Nic will get 26 minutes a game, mostly as a small forward. This is the year Nic should be playing no less than 32 minutes a game, but that’s the problem with “winning now” when your roster isn’t a legit challenger. Wallace puts a more palpable stamp on the game though, so you can’t sit him.
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 23, 2011 11:51 AM PST reply actions
nice piece, Dave
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
LMA, Crash, and Nic working together
could be a beautiful thing. And I think they have the team mentality to do it.
They could be our ‘three horsemen’ working in concert, keeping the other teams guessing, all serious threats. If our guards can make some outside shots and enable those guys, and our centers can just play D and get some rebounds…. Heres hopin’ something good will happen.
The Blazers are back !
My thoughts as well
only I’m still hoping for an Oden comeback, as our Fourth Horseman in the frontcourt.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
That lineup will destroy against weaker opponents.
Actually, that lineup will look good against Dallas and San Antonio. We’ll need beef to hang with everyone else.
/s
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