Blazers Acting GM Chad Buchanan Talks Brandon Roy Amnesty Decision, Potential Rebuilding
by Ben Golliver on Dec 12, 2011 3:50 PM PST
in News
Email
PrintPortland Trail Blazers Acting GM Chad Buchanan told Blazersedge after practice Monday that the team has made "significant progress" over the weekend in determining whether or not to use the amnesty clause on guard Brandon Roy and that the team is "fairly close" to making its decision.
Roy informed the team on Thursday night, on the eve of training camp opening, that he had decided to pursue a medical retirement due to problems with his knees. Portland's management team remains in information-gathering mode and has not yet submitted its recommendation to owner Paul Allen for approval.
"On Friday, we started with the news from Brandon and you've got to immediately assess your team from a roster standpoint, from a personnel standpoint and from your financial flexibility standpoint," Buchanan said. "That thinking immediately kicked into gear once we got the news from Brandon. I think we've made signfiicant progress in the decision that is probably right for us from both a basketball standpoint and a business standpoint. We're gathering all the information all the information we can gather. There's a lot of data you can get, making what is obviously a big decision for our organization, trying to compile as much information as we can to make the right one, present it to our ownership and let them decide if that's the right decision to go. But we've made significant progress on that front."
The 2011-2012 free agency period is ongoing and the deadline to use the amnesty clause on a player comes on Friday. The clock is obviously ticking on the Roy decision.
"I think we're fairly close at this point," Buchanan said. "There's a few details you've got to wrap up, cross your t's and dot your I's on a few details you have to get from various people. Obviously we have until Friday. The free agency period, you have to factor in that as the window starts to close on that, that's a certain factor to take into account, but you also have to make sure you're gathering and exhausting all the options and all the data you can gather to make the right decision."
Allowing Roy to pursue a medical retirement would mean the potential for recovering costs associated with his contract from insurance, although the full cost of his contract was not insured. The medical retirement path would come with another significant risk: Roy's contract could go back on Portland's books if he opts to make a comeback at some future date.
Using the amnesty would allow Portland to recover use of its full Mid-Level Exception, worth up to $5 million per year for up to four years, by getting below the luxury tax; retaining Roy would limit the Blazers to spending a mini-MLE worth up to $3 million per year for up to three years. While the Blazers still view this as a weak free agency crop, it would certainly expand their options in targeting players who are still available.
Blazers coach Nate McMillan raised the possibility on Saturday that the team might be headed for a potential rebuild, but Buchanan said he's not yet ready to commit fully to that path.
"It's a balance [between win-now and rebuilding] because I feel like we have a solid core of guys who are in their prime or about to enter the prime of their career," Buchanan said. "We really like them and think they can be long-term pieces for us to build around. Obviously by no means do I or Nate believe we are a team that's going to win an NBA championship as is. That can change at the trade deadline or free agency or anything like that.
"A lot can happen between now and then to put us in that position. We want to continue with the group we've got right now and try to add in some players that complement to that and obviously if you can add a major impact guy you're going to look at it. I think our goal at this point is to still be very competitive this year. We feel like we've got a good group to build around. With LaMarcus' year he had last year and some of the guys taking the next step in their careers, we can be very competitive this year."
Buchanan recently told Jason Quick of The Oregonian that he had plans for one additional signing in free agency. Portland currently has 13 players under contract, including Roy, plus big men Chris Johnson and Earl Barron on non-guaranteed deals. Johnson's spot still looks solid, meaning any free agency addition would require using the amnesty on Roy or saying goodbye to Barron.
McMillan was non-committal regarding possible additions on Monday.
"If that's a big, there are some wings out there that have not been signed, so some opportunities could present themselves," McMillan said. "The two... one, two, three... I mean, one, two, three, four, five. One, two, three, four, five. We're looking for the best talent."
A team source said on Monday that the Blazers would look to target either a two guard or a power forward.
Meanwhile, Kurt Thomas, the newest member of the Blazers, revealed to Blazersedge that he signed a 2-year contract at the veteran's minimum, with a partial guarantee on the second year. Thomas, 39, wore jersey No. 40 during practice.
-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
156 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Crawford would fill a hole for us.
But I’m more interested in Kris Humphries, who is still available. And I was against getting Landry, but he’s more attractive with the signing of Kurt Thomas.
And if the reports are true that we can have both amnesty and retirement insurance on Roy, it might make sense to get the full-MLE for one of those guys.
"Anybody might guess beforehand that there would be blunders of the ignorant. What nobody could have guessed, what nobody could have dreamed of in a nightmare, what no morbid mortal imagination could ever have dared to imagine, was the mistakes of the well-informed." - G. K. Chesterton, The Common Man
Blazersedge.com || New to Blazersedge?
Actions -> Rec and Flag. Blazersedge works right when you use these two things.
Really humphries?
doesnt he have poor D or something? Nonetheless Nets are rumored to just be waiting where nene and dwight land before resigning him. If my two reasons arent true then he might be a decent signing… But thats as long as he doesnt take brake ups as bad as pau gasol haha. I wouldnt mind crawford or landry. Lamarcus likes both which means it keeps him happy. Also kirilenko, cunningham, prz or earl clark I wouldnt mind. Also can we please lose earl barron? Hes worse than juwan howard was on D. And howard had to grab jerseys or foul to keep up with other players.
by Blaze_that_trail on Dec 12, 2011 4:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Humphies is not a bad player to have on your bench.
He ate us alive when we played the Nets last year. He’s an average player, but gives us what we’re looking for in a big.
"Anybody might guess beforehand that there would be blunders of the ignorant. What nobody could have guessed, what nobody could have dreamed of in a nightmare, what no morbid mortal imagination could ever have dared to imagine, was the mistakes of the well-informed." - G. K. Chesterton, The Common Man
Blazersedge.com || New to Blazersedge?
Actions -> Rec and Flag. Blazersedge works right when you use these two things.
Ahhh then ill add him to that list.
I saw his stats but if a bad player gets starters minutes those stats can be misleading. So I wasnt sure
by Blaze_that_trail on Dec 12, 2011 4:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Crawford?
No defense and a black hole with the ball, Crawford would stunt the growth of the rest of the team. I say we throw Armon, Elliot, Luke, and the rest into the water. Let’s see who can swim and who we can teach to swim. We tell Batum to score and see if he’s the star he can be. Aldridge is our scoring 4, and Matthews might start to light it up more consistently. What we need is a 5. I say we make a play for Okafur. He plays solid defense, and he stays healthy (no small feat).
by Jackalope 66 on Dec 12, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
I'm slowly getting over the heartache of Brandon's situation
But am comfortable in saying that I hope whatever decision is made is done so in the best interests of team flexibility, Without Roy or Oden, we’re still two good players away from legitimate contention.
Also, am I the only one who thinks McMillan’s comments only make sense when heard aloud? Trying to make sense of them on a screen is like trying to eat spaghetti with a butter knife.
“If that’s a big, there are some wings out there that have not been signed, so some opportunities could present themselves,” McMillan said. “The two… one, two, three… I mean, one, two, three, four, five. One, two, three, four, five. We’re looking for the best talent.”
I've got ridiculous upside.
-
Follow @JacsonBevens
Nate said 1 three times
and 2 three times
this is proof that either JJ Barea or Jamal Crawford is coming to PDX!
(but he only said 3,4,5 two times, so that was a smokescreen)
When reached 40+ years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Barea signed with the TWolves, I believe
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
man what a come-down for JJ
from the penthouse to the outhouse
When reached 40+ years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
We're farther away than that
“Without Roy or Oden, we’re still two good players away from legitimate contention”
I’d say that we’re more like two superstar caliber players away, not just two good players. There is no hope without a superstar, and even teams w/ two of ’em struggle. We dont currently even have one.
by ItsMrHarris2u on Dec 12, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
Lamarcus Aldridge
is a legitimate 2nd option(with potential to be a #1 if he keeps improving) on a championship team. So you can throw those statements out the window.
Paul Allen, the 2011 Trail Blazers Owner/GM
Two extra superstars on top of LaMarcus?
Yeah, that would be dominating talent. I think we just need one more “star” player.
My stance on the "we need another star" approach
We don’t necessarily need a star, but after losing Brandon Roy what we need is a lead guard. I really don’t think Felton is that guy, he proved that in Charlotte. In NY, it seemed an uptempto team seems to be the best destination for his talents. The opposite of what the situation in Portland presents.
We will see how that goes, but we should press the Celtics every day with Rondo trade offers. If the Big 3 doesn’t come up so big this year he might be on the trading block(Especially with the players we can provide).
Paul Allen, the 2011 Trail Blazers Owner/GM
I'd say one star as good or better than LMA, or two stars below LMA's level.
But I also think that Crash fulfills the need for one star below LMA’s level of talent. All we really need is a star C or PG, and we could then tinker with the role-players to find an adequate combination of talent.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
If the Blazers amnesty Roy, does insurance no longer pay for his salary?
And it’s unfortunate to hear the “Darius Miles” rule is apparently still in force in the new CBA. If a player is found by the league to be unfit to play, that ought to mean they are done. I think Brandon would be less likely to screw the Blazers in that scenario, even if D***y A***E waves money in his face, but still.
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
I believe we can do both, amnesty and get the insurance payoff. Apparently that was confirmed today.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 12, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see how it makes sense to Amnesty Roy
Let him retire and the contract comes off the books next year, just in time for this team to have major cap space.
What are the benefits to amnestying him? A better FA this year? No thanks, anyone they use the full Mid-level on will be a multi year deal that will take up cap space next year. The team just needs a one year stop gap at the 2, much like Kurt Thomas will be for the front court. A team of Felton, Wes, Wallace, LMA, Camby, Batum, Thomas, Williams, and Armon will make the playoffs this year, but not much else. Any possible mid-level FA isn’t going to change that for the better.
If the worry is that Roy might come back with some other team after he retires, well I just don’t see that. First off, this is not Miles all over, he was forced to retire by the Blazers, this is Roy’s call. Second, the team doesn’t really have another contract to use the Amnesty on, so I would just pocket it, if somehow Roy wanted to come back, then they could still use it at that point on him.
Overall this team needs to think about the future, and that means flexibility, using the Amnesty on Roy when his contract is already going to come off the books, means they won’t have it if they do want to shed a contract. For example, next summer the team projects to have major cap space, lets say they can convince D. Williams to come and play with LMA, Batum and his good friend Wes. They could do that, but it would take up most of their cap space because of Wallace’s player option. Having the amnesty in their pocket, they could still look to other FA to improve the team if Wallace decides to opt in. (this is assuming they decide that Batum is their 3). It is not the best option, but it would be an option they would have if they don’t amnesty a contract that is already going to come off the books.
Ben II Blazersedge.com || New to Blazers' Edge?
Apples and Oranges.
Brandon gets paid the big bucks. He has no reason to play until this contract expires, because he’ll simply injure himself further. And he’s not a Darius. Much more levelheaded.
More like tangerines and oranges.
Darius Miles contract was not small. DMiles had no reason to play either, he was still getting paid. Personally, I think Miles’ motivation was a faint flicker in his dim brain that he had left some talent on the table and hadn’t really made the most of his NBA career and regretted it. While Roy’s career has been cut short, I doubt he has any lingering feelings that he didn’t try hard enough or make the most of his opportunities.
The “apples” part might be that Roy retired himself, whereas it seems like the Blazers forced Miles into retirement.
All it took was the Grizzlies GM wanting to hurt the Blazers Cap flexiblity
The Grizzlies convinced Darius to come back and played him in a handful of games in meaningless minutes. There are teams out there who could do the same. Utah’s management could try this to get payback for our toxic offer a few years ago, or for stealing Wes from them.
I thought Miles already played the minimum for Danny Ainge in Boston
who also probably had an axe to grind over Telfair. Pre-season games count.
Either way, Miles had to be complicit, and I bet no small part of that was the involuntary retirement pushed by the Blazers.
I think he was cut before he played the minimum number of games in Boston
As I remember it, we got tag teamed by Beantown and the Grizz…
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain
Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain_4.html#ixzz1IE4sPu16
by Tyler Durrden on Dec 12, 2011 5:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
games "played"
the games he sat out in Boston due to drug suspension counted towards the 10.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
As I mentioned in another thread, with amnesty the Blazers also get the $1.9M Bi-annual exception
as long as we stay under the tax threshold (which we should be able to do).
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 12, 2011 4:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Amnesty Bids
If we used amnesty on Roy and got below luxury tax would be we then able to bid on other amnestied players?
i wouldnt want
anybody who’s been amnestied. for thats why they have been amnestied.
"Tommy: Did you hear I finally graduated?
Richard Hayden: Yeah, and just a shade under a decade too. All right. "
No, we'd have to get under the salary cap.
Those are two different lines.
"Anybody might guess beforehand that there would be blunders of the ignorant. What nobody could have guessed, what nobody could have dreamed of in a nightmare, what no morbid mortal imagination could ever have dared to imagine, was the mistakes of the well-informed." - G. K. Chesterton, The Common Man
Blazersedge.com || New to Blazersedge?
Actions -> Rec and Flag. Blazersedge works right when you use these two things.
No, you have to be under the salary cap. We won't get there this year.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 12, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
No. Even amnestying Roy does not give us cap space.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Thanks
I assumed as much since it hadn’t been mentioned anywhere else, couldn’t remember the details.
Jamal Crawford
please.
"Tommy: Did you hear I finally graduated?
Richard Hayden: Yeah, and just a shade under a decade too. All right. "
I certainly wouldn't cry over Crawford.
But do you think he might want Matthews’ starting spot?
"Anybody might guess beforehand that there would be blunders of the ignorant. What nobody could have guessed, what nobody could have dreamed of in a nightmare, what no morbid mortal imagination could ever have dared to imagine, was the mistakes of the well-informed." - G. K. Chesterton, The Common Man
Blazersedge.com || New to Blazersedge?
Actions -> Rec and Flag. Blazersedge works right when you use these two things.
I thought it was Batum's starting spot. :)
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Dec 12, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
I think as it is now, it's Wesley's starting spot with Nic coming off the bench at the three
Also, I’m pretty sure Crawford made some statements to the effect of, he’d love to come to Portland and would contribute in whatever capacity we needed him too. I remember him saying he’d be fine coming off the bench.
Of course those are just words…
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain
Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain_4.html#ixzz1IE4sPu16
by Tyler Durrden on Dec 12, 2011 5:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
But I remember LA lobbying for him on twitter quite a bit too
Almost seemed a bromance situation
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain
Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain_4.html#ixzz1IE4sPu16
by Tyler Durrden on Dec 12, 2011 6:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
If we could get Jamal Crawford for the Mini MLE
that would be a huge trade asset, in my opinion. He wouldn’t be the difference needed to make the 2nd round playoff step anyway.
Paul Allen, the 2011 Trail Blazers Owner/GM
interesting not on Crawford
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/12/12/jamal-crawford-a-hot-pursuit/
The Blazers and Pacers are interested as well, though right now, it would be more likely that Crawford would sign one-year deals with each team and test the free agent market again next summer when more teams will have significant cap room.
This could be best of all worlds – get him now on a good deal, and preserve all capspace for next summer.
"But if Ding Dongs and prime rib were the path to NBA pivot stardom we'd all be wearing the uniform." -Dave
More teams have cap room, but there are more big name free agents.
"Anybody might guess beforehand that there would be blunders of the ignorant. What nobody could have guessed, what nobody could have dreamed of in a nightmare, what no morbid mortal imagination could ever have dared to imagine, was the mistakes of the well-informed." - G. K. Chesterton, The Common Man
Blazersedge.com || New to Blazersedge?
Actions -> Rec and Flag. Blazersedge works right when you use these two things.
even then, bidding goes higher.
All the teams that lose out on big names still have a roster spot and cap room. That’s how Joe Johnson ended up with so much in the summer of LeBron.
And that's also why Gerald Wallace won't exercise his player option this offseason
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Right, that's what I meant
He won’t opt-in for next season, making him a 2012 UFA. More teams with capspace, more demand for FA’s from the teams who strike out on the big names.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
it would be more likely that Crawford would sign one-year deals with each team and test the free agent market again next summer
I don’t expect the mini-MLE will get this done, but if they amnesty Roy they can offer JC the full MLE with player options after this season. If he walks away this summer Portland has pay-flex
Makes sense for both parties, the Blazer’s bench would immediately have a proven scorer
When reached 40+ years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Trade deadline this year is?
Does anyone know the answer? I realize it’s not an immediate issue, but given the short season it will come up quickly.
new years
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Dec 12, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
could we get Crawford for the mini-MLE?
by DefenderOfPants on Dec 12, 2011 4:21 PM PST reply actions
Nope.
They’re over the salary cap no matter what this year. The question is do we amnesty Roy for a full exception, or keep him for the mini exception.
"Anybody might guess beforehand that there would be blunders of the ignorant. What nobody could have guessed, what nobody could have dreamed of in a nightmare, what no morbid mortal imagination could ever have dared to imagine, was the mistakes of the well-informed." - G. K. Chesterton, The Common Man
Blazersedge.com || New to Blazersedge?
Actions -> Rec and Flag. Blazersedge works right when you use these two things.
no
he signed a minimum deal – no effect at all on other offers
"But if Ding Dongs and prime rib were the path to NBA pivot stardom we'd all be wearing the uniform." -Dave
Thought of a new reason for your list.
If we get under the tax, we get 150% trade matching instead of 125%.
"Anybody might guess beforehand that there would be blunders of the ignorant. What nobody could have guessed, what nobody could have dreamed of in a nightmare, what no morbid mortal imagination could ever have dared to imagine, was the mistakes of the well-informed." - G. K. Chesterton, The Common Man
Blazersedge.com || New to Blazersedge?
Actions -> Rec and Flag. Blazersedge works right when you use these two things.
Mediocrity vs Draft Lottery?
I’m not sure which is better this season, having a sub-par season and getting a chance at a high draft pick in a strong draft, or making the playoffs, only to lose in the early rounds and picking in the high 20’s?
I has already been prepared to write off this whole season because of the lock-out. I’m not so sure I would be opposed to tanking it and getting a Andre Drummond or Anthony Davis. The incoming class has so many talented players, a lottery pick could be just what the doctor ordered.
Personally, I hate a team tanking.
I want them to try their best, whether or not they win it all.
"Anybody might guess beforehand that there would be blunders of the ignorant. What nobody could have guessed, what nobody could have dreamed of in a nightmare, what no morbid mortal imagination could ever have dared to imagine, was the mistakes of the well-informed." - G. K. Chesterton, The Common Man
Blazersedge.com || New to Blazersedge?
Actions -> Rec and Flag. Blazersedge works right when you use these two things.
Same here
Tanking on purpose isn’t basketball. I’d rather try to win.
I'm with you folks...
I think it would be a mistake to put Aldrige’s career on hold in hopes of a good draft. Plus, Wallace is now an integral part of the Blazers and their scheming. I’m really curious as to what Matthews, Batum, Wallace, Aldrige, and Felton can do. Those names could be serious trade bait as opposed to just cap-saving tanking.
Ditto...
…I really dislike teams that say “rebuilding” when they really mean “tanking”.
#7... GO BLAZERS!!!
I agree with you - see my post down below
I don’t think we should trade away everyone and head for annual lottery picks, but I do think we need to make some trades and re-tool the roster around LaMarcus. I think we need to ship out a bunch of our “decent” guys and get some assets
by rip_city_swagger on Dec 12, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
The Blazers could also try and acquire a lottery pick without tanking
That unprotected first round pick from Minnesota that the Clippers keep flashing around could be an answer.
This is a man who doesn't want to show his cards:
McMillan was non-committal regarding possible additions on Monday.
“If that’s a big, there are some wings out there that have not been signed, so some opportunities could present themselves,” McMillan said. “The two… one, two, three… I mean, one, two, three, four, five. One, two, three, four, five. We’re looking for the best talent.”
Sounds a little like Rick Perry or Herman Cain – incoherent. But I love Nate.
Nate & Crawford - Star players attract other Star players
I agree that Nate is being smart about hiding his cards. Why give other teams knowledge if the Blazers are about to make a steal of a deal??
Let’s face facts; having Crawford with LA who are legit MEGA Stars will allow Portland to attract others stars and a winning team. We don’t need Crawford for D, we need him crash the boards and post up, and that what he does!
"financial flexibility" vs "financial".
“…you’ve got to immediately assess your team from a roster standpoint, from a personnel standpoint and from your financial flexibility standpoint,” Buchanan said.
Interesting that he said “financial flexibility” rather than just “financial”. To me that means they are leaning to amnesty Brandon for the full exception and greater financial flexibility rather than let him take a medical retirement and get back some insurance $$ which would be better financially.
A one year offer looks likely too.
And a one year offer to Crawford (or anyone for that matter) preserves next year’s financial flexibility. So that looks likely too.
multi-year deal
but with a player option in 2012-2013, so JC has LT security against injury, but also the choice to pursue a better deal in 7 months
When reached 40+ years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Still Concerned. . .
I’m concerned about the rebuilding comments from the Blazers.
I’m not sure if Gerald Wallace wants to stay with a team that’s in rebuilding mode. I see him either going with a definitive contender and/or be with a team closer to his home town, especially if he’s in the twilight of his career.
I’m sad for Brandon Roy. Can’t imagine how someone that young with that much talent can’t do what he loves to do any more (atleast at his previous level). I do think he made the best decision for his family in regards to his future. He’d be great either in the PR Department of the Blazers and/or in the broadcasting booth.
This season’s going to be a nail biter. Lack of experience in the front court is certainly a disadvantage right now.
Still a fan but definitely concerned. . .
agreed on Wallace
what about Aldrige though? Would he really like to sit around and wait another 3-4 years to rebuild and hope we have a team when he hits 30?
Aldridge doesn't really have much leverage
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
It all depends on how happy he is with his role on the team, his money and whether he thinks we can win.
I think if players feel those three things are taken care of, particularly discussing the team they were drafted by, most would choose to stay.
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain
Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain_4.html#ixzz1IE4sPu16
by Tyler Durrden on Dec 12, 2011 6:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't amnesty Roy
Couldn’t the blazers make a trade in which we take in a toxic contract and a decent player. Then use the amnesty to waive that toxic contract? We just need to find a team with multiple bad contracts since they would use their amnesty on one of the bad contracts.
Maybe??
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cxv5wlb
Hit me tube sock!
by aznjoo on Dec 12, 2011 4:54 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Ahh Ty that clears that up
I would still take on raja bell for al Jefferson or millsap
Hit me tube sock!
by aznjoo on Dec 12, 2011 4:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Blazers do need to rebuild around LaMarcus Aldridge
I’m not talking a complete rebuild – trading everyone away and drafting in the lottery for years. But we do need to strip down our roster and get different pieces in place. There are several players on the team that are role players, and we don’t have the luxury for those guys at this point. This is what I think we need to do, in order:
1) See what we have in Nolan Smith and Elliott Williams
We could have a great 1-2 off the bench, or two good college players that aren’t really cut for the NBA. We don’t know yet. But they’re taking up 2 roster spots in our backcourt. We need to get them some run and find out sooner than later if these are guys we can rely on.
2) Trade Gerald Wallace and Nicolas Batum/Wesley Matthews (either together or individually)
Wallace is still talented enough to contribute to a team, and his contract is expiring. I think his greatest value to us is in trade, and yes I do think we should include Batum or Matthews as sweetner – it depends on what Batum is going to demand for his extension. But I don’t think we can carry two wings that aren’t offensive creators at those salaries. I think we need to package one with Wallace, or in a separate deals, and acquire some assets and picks.
3) Let Camby’s contract expire or trade it
He really started slowing down last year. Hopefully having Kurt Thomas can take some load off of him, but he has a pretty large contract coming off the books. We can either trade it to a team that wants cap room, or we can let it expire and come off our books.
4) Make a decision on Felton
His contract will be expiring too. If we can upgrade at PG, maybe we let him walk or trade him. If we can’t do better, we’ll probably have to extend him.
5) Sign one max free agent and one second-tier free agent next offseason
I know that’s a lot of shake-up, but I think we could acquire a bunch of assets (both players and picks), and re-build the team A TON in just one season. We can lower our cap number a lot by shedding Camby/Wallace/Felton and by having Roy’s contract come off the books, making us eligible for bidding on amnesty players, and by eliminating Roy’s deal, we’ll be in line to sign a max level free agent next season.
by rip_city_swagger on Dec 12, 2011 4:57 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
You did a great job explaining the questions that face our team
and provide some realistic solutions. You got a rec from me.
Paul Allen, the 2011 Trail Blazers Owner/GM
amendments
1. I’d add Armon Johnson. He might become decent; he might become good. Let’s give him some running time with Smith and Williams.
2. I agree with trading Wallace. We should also see if someone would give us a young’un for Camby. They’re both on the downswing (as is Thomas, who is a bandaid more than anything). As for Batum and Matthews, it all depends on what they’ll bring back. I think we should listen to offers for them, but we shouldn’t put them on the block.
4. Let Felton go. He’s decent, but he’s not the answer, and we shouldn’t pay him as if he were.
We do need to reach our core: Aldridge, maybe Batum and Matthews. We’re not going to do much this year, so we might as well see what we have. Give the rest of the team room to make mistakes and fail. That’s the only way to learn. I just hope McMillan can embrace the chaos this would require.
by Jackalope 66 on Dec 12, 2011 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
Regarding Armon
He better substantially outperform Nolan Smith, or the #2 PG spot will be lost.
I agree about Felton. We should make a run at a real lead guard like Rondo.
Paul Allen, the 2011 Trail Blazers Owner/GM
I agree with this thread in general
although I would really like to see Wallace play, now that Nate has had a chance to scheme for him. He came in last year pretty timid (for him) and slowly became an impact player. He was relatively quiet in the playoffs until the last game, then seemed to be the only one playing in the last game of the playoffs.
I would hate it if we traded him before really seeing him. Come trade-deadline and he we have a definitive upgrade, ok, I’m in with all the above bullet points.
Another way to look at it:
Had Wallace played like we hoped throughout the whole series, we would have beat Dallas.
FIFY
Had Wallace played like we hoped he has for most of his career throughout the whole series, we would have beat Dallas.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
It's hard to play at the same level when you don't get ball in your hands as much as you are used to.
It was clear the Blazers still did not know how to utilize Wallace effectively as they were trying to use him as a spot up shooter when he is clearly better at slashing to the basket and using pick and rolls to get a free lane to the hoop.
I am hoping that with Raymond Felton that thing will change in Wallace’s favor this year. Wallace will definitely get more looks just by the fact that Felton will push the tempo more and there will be more open court play.
I am hoping that with Raymond Felton that thing will change in Wallace’s favor this year. Wallace will definitely get more looks just by the fact that Felton will push the tempo more and there will be more open court play.
The two were already demonstrating this synergy during practice, see the PF video on the sidebar. Felton already knows how to get the most out of Crash
When reached 40+ years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Rebuild
I think we keep Wallace this year and trade him in the offseason if he does not opt out. I would like to see Batum get a lot of playing time at the 2 and 3 this year to see if we have a long term asset.
the reason they should do it this season is to better prepare for free agency next year
the class should be pretty strong. We could trade Wallace for some non-guaranteed or expiring contracts, and better position ourselves to add 2 really good players to surround LA
by rip_city_swagger on Dec 12, 2011 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I don't think you'd have to worry much about GW opting out.
Barring a serious injury, he will likely opt out as at 31, his next contract is likely the last big one. He’ll have no problem getting $9 million next year if he opts out.
Now, if trading him yields some picks + expiring or nonguaranteed contracts, I’m all for it.
The cake was a lie.
I'm not sure about that
with the new rules and cap constraints that might not be the case. Either way though, I’m not talking about him opting out. I’m talking about trading him for players/picks that would allow us to get out of their contracts if we chose.
Or, I could see us sending Felton, Wallace, and Batum to some team for a stud and a pick or something.
by rip_city_swagger on Dec 13, 2011 1:06 AM PST up reply actions
Next year
the Blazers could have available to them $25+million in cap space, with everyone coming off the books except LMA, Wes, Babbitt, Williams, and Smith, thrown in a likely extended Batum, and assuming a cap around $58 million, the teams payroll might not go over $33 million, (depending on Batum’s extension.
That is enough room to get a max player in here to join LMA, or if the team can pull a Miami, (very unlikely) they could conceivably get two max players to the team through sign and trades. The guy I would target is D Williams, then go after a strong center and some back up sharp shooters.
This team could be rebuilt pretty quickly.
Ben II Blazersedge.com || New to Blazers' Edge?
exactly
make trades to get one quality player (wing or big), and then target the other with a max contract in free agency. We’re back to having 3 legit guys in our lineup to add pieces around.
That’s obviously the over-simplified version, but the scenario I’d like to see play out
by rip_city_swagger on Dec 13, 2011 1:02 AM PST up reply actions
Is there any word on Oden's reduced contract?
All I have read is that it is a lesser deal than the previous offer sheet, but I haven’t seen an actual figure.
Pretty obvious then
If the blazers can’t waive a traded player. Isn’t it obvious that we have to amnesty Roy? What are the benefits for not waiving him and waiting a year for medical retirement to have toys contract come off the books?
Hit me tube sock!
by aznjoo on Dec 12, 2011 5:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Douglast has a good list in the previous post.
Basically the Blazers can get way under the cap if Wallace opt in and they amnesty him, taking off Wallace’s and Roy’s contracts. It’s mainly about flexibility next year for free agents, next year’s amnesty victims, and as T Darkstar points out above, 150% trade matching vs. 125%. Plus you can receive players in trade without sending anyone out to save other teams money.
Again, it’s flexibility next year. But to do this you might have to lose one of Wallace, Felton, or Oden (or all 3), which may not be worth it. Also, this year would kinda suck.
Nolan Smith - PG of the future. Book it.
I think Wallace is more valuable in trade than amnesty
we could amnesty him, but he can still play and his deal isn’t ridiculous considering his production. I think there are some veteran/contending teams that would love to add him and send us a prospect or two, maybe a draft pick.
by rip_city_swagger on Dec 12, 2011 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
Nice to keep the get out of jail free card
for the future.
"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.
so were still clueless ?
GREAT. I’m sure a mentally challenged Humphries and all that drama or adding yet ANOTHER guard must be the answer. This team once again goes as far as LA takes them against a double team .Nico still doesn’t have a new contract. So much for having it under control. For gods sake get Oseran a seat on the bench.
just win baby !
by FrenchieFan on Dec 12, 2011 5:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Adding another big who is even somewhat a scoring threat means teams won't double team as much.
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain
Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain_4.html#ixzz1IE4sPu16
by Tyler Durrden on Dec 12, 2011 6:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Freeland anyone?
He seems to have an offensive game that extends from under the basket to 20 feet away. I think he and LMA could be devastating on offense
Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin
So who would that be ?
Thomas will make up for when Camby isnt on the floor only. I know you cant mean Kris I ride the short bus Humphries. Blazer fans really need to quit accepting other teams garbage, and thinking it wont stink here.
Yes, Nic does need a new contract at some point. They havent figured that out yet either.
just win baby !
Nic will need one next year I believe, you seemed to be arguing that the fact he doesn't have one now points to poor decision making in the front office. They don't need to resign him yet so that can't be a strike against them.
And I don’t know who else we could get for a big but even Humphries would help stop the double team. The second guy doesn’t have to be the same scoring threat as LA, just enough to keep other teams honest. Right now we don’t even have that so how could getting some help there even by a guy who you seem to think is not even good enough to play in the NBA not be an improvement?
And yes Freeland could be good if his game translates to the NBA, however I believe he is tied up through next season with his current contract, so that poses a hurdle.
Whatever moves they make FrenchiFan, I’m sure you can find a way to not like them, lol.
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain
Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain_4.html#ixzz1IE4sPu16
by Tyler Durrden on Dec 12, 2011 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
Nic doesn't need a new contract just yet either
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain
Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain_4.html#ixzz1IE4sPu16
by Tyler Durrden on Dec 12, 2011 6:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
WTF is Nate trying to say????
Toooo funny.
But I think the key is not so much rebuilding but retooling around LaMarcus. Rebuild only if this year is a total disaster.
I think the best moves are to just add some vets who can actually play. We have so many unknowns on our bench. If we are seriously going to play Smith/Williams heavy minutes then, well, they better be pretty, pretty good. Kurt Thomas was a good start. Crawford would be an excellent addition, this team needs shot creators (even if it’s shots for themselves). The shortened season is going to take a toll on our players and we need all the firepower we can get.
by hollywood robinson on Dec 12, 2011 6:01 PM PST reply actions
Haha
Yeah. at some point I think you move away from the best player available scenario, to one that addresses team needs… This philosophy is how we ended up with our two guard who couldn’t move initiating the offense, and our point guard who can’t shoot, standing at the three point line “spreading the floor”, along with our 11 million dollar “flex forward” who also can’t shoot, and would prefer not to play power forward, or come off the bench.. Who also runs the point.
by heybabydrinkyourmilk on Dec 12, 2011 7:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
someone ought to explain to Nate that 'rebuillding' starts with a new coach..
Yeah, we have a lot of ‘unknowns’. Let’s put them on the court and get them ‘known’ Nate “developer of young talent”.
Wake me when the game is on.
Yeah, maybe that's why they had to hire like fifteen assistant coaches the past couple of years
He also played the rebuilding card, and the we need help everywhere card. Two things in particular I would like to see is Batum playing with the starters, as he open up the floor for Aldridge much better than Wallace, and plays off him better (off screens/down the baseline), where Wallace would be better suited playing with our reserves (he could just pretend he was back in NC, play the three all he wants, cherry pick, go 1 on 5, have at ‘em). Also, the team needs to developed a consistent lineup for the end of games. The turnstile approach that’s been used, with different guys in different spots each night puts the team at a disadvantage.
by heybabydrinkyourmilk on Dec 13, 2011 6:40 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Gotta love Nate !
What do you expect him to say ? He still has to coach.
One fish- two fish. Red-fish -blue-fish. Dr Suess for Blazer GM !!
Heres to an interesting season. Go Blazers !!!!
just win baby !
Wes, Wallace, Felton and Batum’s stock will never be higher than it is right now. Blow it up and start over while you can still get some quality assets in return.
Felton, Wallace, Wes, and LMA are a good core
Looking at the West, and at the Mavs team that won it all, we just need a Tyson Chandler/Andrew Bogut type and a decent bench to contend.
The problem is that those C’s don’t come easy. But we’ve got one under contract, he’s just had trouble getting on the court.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Those are ancilary players.
Good ones, but nothing there that’s dynamic enough to contend even with a Bogut.
You can go all the way with a couple ancillary starters like Felton and Matthews
And I 100% disagree with using that term with regards to Aldridge and Wallace. They are two of the best two-way players in the NBA, and can literally play with just about anyone. They are All-Stars by almost any reasonable advanced statistic, and both are capable of taking over games single-handedly when healthy and built around properly.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
They have one all-star appearance between them.
GW likely will never go back again. He’s a 4th option on a championship team, whenever Portland get’s that player you’re speaking of he will be a shell of his former self.
LA has high potential, but right now all he’s had is a great 4 month stretch and a flame out in the playoffs.
Were not even 100% sure if he’s an elite player yet. He certainly has the tools, but he’s still a ways away from being a top 5 player and if you ask me, you need one of those to even begin to dream of contending. And this opinion is based off of the history of the league. Teams that win titles 99% of the time have MVP top 5 NBA talent. I hope LA get’s there, but right now he’s not.
I don't disagree with your assessment of the NBA
But your assessment of our players is way off. Gerald Wallace as 4th option on a Championship team? No way. The Mavs 4th option this year (in terms of FGA per game) was JJ Barea. Last season, Artest was the L*kers 4th option. Odom the year before. Sophomore Rondo was 4th option for the C’s the year before that. Gerald Wallace is better than all those players offensively, and at least approximates, if not exceeds, the level of defense those other players provide.
And LA may not be a top 5 yet, but he’s closing the gap too rapidly to ignore. Moreover, it is not impossible to win without an MVP caliber player. It’s difficult, but it is entirely possible.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
I think Odom is a fair comparison to G. Wallace
Third best player on the Lakers championship teams after Pau and Kobe.
LMA is probably a top 20 player now, and could work his way into the top 10. I think that’s good enough for a top player on a contending roster. It does require more support than, say, Dwight Howard, but we already know we don’t have a generational LeBron/Dwight/Durant player (barring an Oden miracle).
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
Wallace is a quality 2nd or 3rd option this year
but he’s not getting any younger, and we’re not going to compete for a title this year. We’ve got to plan for the future, and Wallace’s age (and wear & tear) will mean we will get diminishing returns the longer we hold onto him.
by Jackalope 66 on Dec 12, 2011 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, well in the last 30 years only one team comes to mind.
‘04 Pistons. It’s more than difficult, too difficult to count on that ever happening.
I’d say Wallace is closer to a Marion/Artest type. In fact, Wallace really didn’t play that much better if at all against Marion in the playoffs. Artest is older and is weaker now, but a couple of years ago he was the Lakers 4th option on a championship team.
I’d take Odom over Wallace. Wallace has better character, but Odom is a matchup nightmare for teams, Wallace doesn’t really have the size in favor of having that advantage.
Wallace is a nice player, but he’s far from being an answer to a contending team unless you have the other pieces in place.
I agree with you except Batum
He is still one of the youngest Blazers on the team, and the only reason he has not improved exponentially is because his usage rate has not improved. It is hard to improve when you are on the bench behind Wallace.
by tyeforshee on Dec 12, 2011 7:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Nic has an opportunity to be the team's 6th man
but I think that Nate would prefer that Batum concentrate on being the Blazer’s defensive stopper, at the expense of Frenchie’s offense
the addition of Crawford to Portland’s bench would dovetail with this theory
When reached 40+ years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I think his usage rate has more to do with his nonaggressive nature.
But at the same time, I am looking at this year at his breakout year. Lot of factors are right for him to break out this season, such as playing high level basketball while NBA in lockout, young legs in compact schedule, and of course, expiring contract.
If he doesn’t break out this year, I am comfortable with letting him go if someone comes in with a ridiculous bid.
The cake was a lie.
With the Thomas signing, Crawford makes more sense.
During his best year with ATL, Jamal Played 26% of his minutes at the pg and 34% at the 2.( Played in 60% of Atlanta’s total minutes)
This would nix the chance at seeing much of Nolan or Elliott barring injuries but he would give us another shooter and a pick and roll guy / creator off the bench that this team needs.
Here’s a quick scribble of a potential rotation…
Felton 34 / Crawford 14
Matthews 32 / Crawford 16
Wallace 29 / Batum 19
Aldridge 32 / Batum 9 / Wallace 7
Camby 28 / Thomas 15 / Aldridge 5
Not too shabby.
Actually, taking a second look Landry would fit in too.
Felton 35 / Smith 13
Matthews 33 / Batum 15
Wallace 35 / Batum 13
Aldridge 23 / Landry 25
Camby 25 / Aldridge 13 / Thomas 10
based on what he's been doing in France, I'd rather swing Batum to the 2 than the 4
Not to mention I’d rather have Nolan Smith on the court than Crawford, given that it’s an investment in our future.
(still wish we’d drafted Faried)
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
agree re: Faried
The Blazer’s bench is very inexperienced in the backcourt, sure Batum has been around but he’s primarily a wing. If anything was to happen to Felton or Matthews…ouch! I think if Crawford is willing to sign the MLE Portland should add him to the roster, especially if the commitment is only for this season
Depth is important this season, experienced depth even more so. Portland should also retain the BAE to add Przy later, if Joel decides to return and they need another big man asap
When reached 40+ years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
fair, there is no margin for injury at the guard positions
man, I missed these kinds of discussions so much during the lockout….THE NBA IS BACK
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
Crawford would only be a luxury
The team’s biggest need is still another big man.
Maybe we should listen to Aldridge?
Crawford or Landry, that fact is both would work for Portland. But what I find interesting Is that Aldridge seriously wants Crawford. Maybe we should listen to him?
Clips got Chauncey with winning bid just over $2 Million
Nice move by them. The amnesty rule is going to really help those teams under the cap.
Good I'd like to see at least one good team in the Pacific
Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin
How about a new champ of Staples Center ?
That would do a lot for my Clippers fandom.
Wake me when the game is on.
I can go live with Crawford
I have never been a huge Crawford fan, but the Blazers need a creator on the team. If he can sign for one year (as has been suggested already), I would totally go for it. It hurts Smith and Williams time but I can live with that
I am not who I think I am.
you better reconsider living with him
he might stiff you for the cleaning deposit, and i’m pretty sure never sorts the mail just leaves it in a pile in the kitchen.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
When do league doctors examine Roy?
I have still not heard confirmation that league doctors have okayed the medical retirement. Yes? No? What we really don’t need is for Friday to pass with no amnesty, then have the same guys (that cleared Roy to com back last year) void the medical retirement. I have to believe that is impossible, that if they voided it they would let us use the amnesty on Roy even past the deadline, but given the first week of this season I fully expect it to happen.
by heybabydrinkyourmilk on Dec 12, 2011 6:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Could you imagine Crawford and Wallace on the floor together at the same time
It would be just like NBA Jam, plus three other players who may or may not touch the ball occasionally.
by heybabydrinkyourmilk on Dec 12, 2011 7:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions
ummm
well we just got the oldest player in the NBA just in time for his social security to kick in and isnt our newest guard on some type of reality lose weight program this month? the biggest loser?
I'd go with Landry
I think Landry would be the best fit – he can score – he can rebound – he’s tough & young enough to stay awhile – all things we need
I'd take Landry for the mini-MLE
for the full MLE, maybe…
then again I’d prefer not to give Crawford more than $4mil for 1 year. Maybe I am a pessimist.
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
I hope the Blazers don't add Landry to the mix for the full MLE
He is a terrible defender. He cannot rebound. He is undersized. He can’t play in the post. All he can do is score from the mid range.
Since when can he rebound
He has one of the worst rebound rates in the league for a PF.
Carl is not a defender, and his rebounds come mostly on the offensive end
The addition of Thomas makes the need to add another front court player less acute, while the absense of Roy makes the experience/playmaking level of Portland’s backcourt a real concern
When reached 40+ years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Can't help but think of how attractive the EC's of GW and Camby will be at the trade deadline
I would like GW to stay, but think there will be some good deals out there from teams wanting cap space. Hope the Celtics tank throw in the towel – I know Rondo is a head case but is also deserving of being mentioned in the same breath as CP3 or Williams.
Bide our time, see how well Nic and others improve, than make a deal that brings us some longer term stability instead of one more older big guy to try and get us to the second round.
by lil'stink on Dec 12, 2011 8:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Unfortunately, not complicated
Lots of thoughtful posts here looking at a tough situation in an optimistic light. LaMarcus is a top 20 player, close to a plateau. GW is top 40, likely on the way down. That’s not a championship nucleus. And I’m not sure Paul Allen is interested in anything less. Role players and has-beens won’t get us over the hump.
So…it’s free agency or the draft. With expiring contracts (amnesty Wallace if necessary next summer), we could have room to add two max contract free agents. Roll the dice and hope for one of Paul/Howard? Perhaps keep room available for the following season in hopes of adding another elite player?
Or…the draft. Probably have to trade LaMarcus to get bad enough for a shot at #1-2.
I’ve got season tickets and am not looking forward to rebuilding, but also not looking forward to a LaMarcus lead team of 50 wins and first round exit the next 7 years. Pinning our hopes on low picks and the MLE…
by Engineering Problem on Dec 12, 2011 8:31 PM PST reply actions
It's kind of interesting to me....
that Chad Buchanan would refer to “Blazer Ownership” as an entity…and not say- Paul Allen. Also he refers to ownership using a plural…“them”….
I always think of Blazer Ownership, as specifically Paul Allen…and in the singular.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
This must (or certainly should) be a non-stop time of intense
searching out all creative options, with lots of behind-the-scenes GM exploration.
Brandon’s decision is a game changer in the roster development department, and aparently it was a surprise. The use of the amnesty will be directly related to the availability of a deal attractive enough to warrant it. They should have a variety of flow charts and such trying to find the best ‘solution’ to this complex interactive puzzle.
We just have to wait and see. Actually the less we hear could be the better.
Wake me when the game is on.
So we´re hearing now what Cho was saying a year ago.
Maybe the Blazers have been in slow motion for a while and everyone who tried to go to Real Land faster got killed?
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
NBA Playoffs Content Module
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
FanShots
Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.
Recommended FanShots
Recent FanShots
In Association With
Ball Don't Lie - NBA - Yahoo! Sport
- Behind the Box Score, where the Boston Celtics are moving on to the conference finals
- NBA Playoffs Fan Fiction: San Antonio Spurs vs. Oklahoma City Thunder
- The Indiana Pacers? Gone till November
- Shaquille O’Neal is in a Chinese beer commercial, too (VIDEO)
- ‘Deep Thoughts’ and Cheap Thoughts: San Antonio Spurs vs. Oklahoma City Thunder
