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If the Portland Trail Blazers decide to use the amnesty clause on Brandon Roy, there will be plenty of teams interested in signing the veteran shooting guard. However, league sources say that Roy may consider retirement if the Blazers decide to waive him.

Roy has been weighing his options and asking a number of people if he would still be able to collect his amnesty money if he chooses to retire. The 27-year-old has had arthroscopic surgery on both of his knees and played in just 47 games last season.

The Blazers haven’t indicated whether or not they’ll use the amnesty provision on Roy, but it’s certainly something they’ll consider. Roy has four years and $68,278,526 remaining on his contract.

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Hypothetical question,

If he DID retire, could we resign him after X amount of time to a more reasonable deal?

by blazer_tk on Dec 1, 2011 2:30 PM PST reply actions  

Not until after his current contract would have expired, I believe.

This is somewhat sad news, but at the same time, I don’t want to see Brandon walking with a cane at 35. Please don’t go to Golden State, Brandon.

by Timmay! on Dec 1, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Hypothetical question

Can Brandon restructure his contract voluntarily?

by Sean M on Dec 1, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

nope

"But if Ding Dongs and prime rib were the path to NBA pivot stardom we'd all be wearing the uniform." -Dave

by douglast on Dec 1, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Only in the NFL.

Can’t do that in the NBA or MLB.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Dec 1, 2011 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

B-Roy at Golden State might mirror his time at UW.

Since I personally don’t care about Roy’s long-term health, my interest in seeing how he’d fit in with the Warriors takes precedence.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Dec 1, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't imagine it would go well, even at 20 mins per game

I mean, his mind can go uptempo, but I don’t believe his body can.

by Timmay! on Dec 1, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

You've been following the Blazers since Roy's rookie year, no?

What evidence do you have that even his mind can go uptempo?

I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Sean in Vancouver on Dec 1, 2011 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

He handled uptempo just fine at UW

And in the rare moments the Blazers ran, he was fine, even efficient.

I’ve seen him defend the break surprisingly well too.

But neither of these come up much in Portland, of course.

by Timmay! on Dec 1, 2011 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Roy is absolutely awful at uptempo basketball!

As a matter of fact, I can’t think of a player with his level of skill, athleticism and experience that’s worse; certainly not at either guard position.

He is a fast break Killer of the first order; he may be the king.

by Wotan on Dec 5, 2011 4:48 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

“Since I personally don’t care about Roy’s long-term health” that’s kinda brutal. It’s not like any of personal know that guy, but still… I’m with Timmay on this one.

by hoodieNation on Dec 1, 2011 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha-ha, yeah.

I was kind of harsh.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Dec 2, 2011 2:44 AM PST up reply actions  

How about this...

If we amnesty him, can we participate in the “silent auction” for his services?

by jons_guitar on Dec 2, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

That he would even consider retirement

may be a bad sign as to where he feels he is health wise…or it may just be an emotional reaction. BRoy is and will always be one of my favourite NBA players but I wish he could temper his emotions better. He seems to be negatively effected emotionally by stuff he needs to just look past.

No-one is disrespecting him or mistreating him. He got fewer minutes because his body couldn’t handle more. He got replaced as the go to guy because he couldn’t fill the job consistently. If he gets amnestied it’s because he can’t give the production required to justify the cap hit. He’ll still get paid every penny and cheered every time he shows up in PDX.

by poorwebguy on Dec 1, 2011 2:47 PM PST reply actions  

If that's where he is mentally

I think it has more to do with moving his family than anything basketball related. Knowing your best days are behind you can be really demotivating when placed in a position of trying to start over somewhere new. He’s more than covered for the next four years regardless. If he retires to stay with his family, I won’t fault him for that.

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by Decaf on Dec 1, 2011 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

At this point, I’m not going to put much stock in the various Brandon Roy rumors. I think members of the press are getting played — there are too many agents, GMs, and other anonymous league sources with agendas.

Kudos to Jason Quick, who has stopped using unnamed sources. He talked with Brandon’s agent, who said “All Brandon wants is to know whether the Blazers want him to be part of the team and in what capacity. At this point, it would be nice to have some closure on the situation and for him to know where he will be playing this year.”

Personally, I think this is the more interesting story: http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2011/12/blazers_insider_the_brandon_ro.html

by Corvid on Dec 1, 2011 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

I support Brandon Roy for G.M.

I can count on him to hire me as an assistant

La Illaha Illallah Muhamadur Rasulallah

by AbuFatimah on Dec 1, 2011 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

not disagreeing necessarily, just curious:

What do you know about Roy that leads you to this conclusion?

"But if Ding Dongs and prime rib were the path to NBA pivot stardom we'd all be wearing the uniform." -Dave

by douglast on Dec 1, 2011 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

PA probably wouldn't fire him the same year

and BRoy as GM probably couldn’t hurt our FO decisions as the committee always wins.

I’d say it’s money to the wind but, all things being equal, I’d rather hear from BRoy than Larry Miller lol. A bit goofy but GM for us is just a face with a title.

by poorwebguy on Dec 1, 2011 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Alex Hannum?

Johnny “Red” Kerr?

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 3, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

*Herr

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 3, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Bud Grant played in the NBA

then coached NFL and has been an advisor for years

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 3, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

actually ...

if roy gave back the amount of money the blazers potentially could save by amnesting him. they took a sum… in form of 5 year gm salary for said duties while retaining the 15th roster spot, that would be rad

by riccc_l on Dec 1, 2011 5:39 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I bet the NBA would put a kibosh on that move.

It would look like they’re skirting the rules by having a deal in place before retirement.

by Timmay! on Dec 1, 2011 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Is'nt Roy retirement a good thing?

If he is unable to play due to medical issues and retires why waste the amnesty clause on him when he would come off the books anyway. Plus if there is any insurance on him they would help cover his remaining contract, seems like the best thing that could happen.

by Planet29 on Dec 1, 2011 6:22 PM PST reply actions  

I think the concept is that he'd retire IF the Blazers use their amnesty on them

Which means they’d still be on the hook for the whole amount. Someone can correct me please if that’s in error.

by Timmay! on Dec 1, 2011 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow...does anything involving this Paul Allen regime ever go smoothly / on the up-n-up?

Seems like they are always trying to be so clever and end up looking like one of the dumbest guys in the room.

We never get great players to come via free agency and this one is gonna force us to keep him.

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by loyal_blazer on Dec 1, 2011 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, this is eerie

the Roy saga is becoming more and more like Geoff Petrie’s NBA career by the day

does that mean if Portland uses the MLE to sign Hayes that he’ll become the franchise’s next Mo Lucas (who was acquired for Petrie’s rights in the ABA dispersal draft)?

Like I said, the parallels are eerie

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 1, 2011 7:51 PM PST reply actions  

If only Hayes had Lucas' size...

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 2, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

and offensive skill

Mo was only 6’8 220 BTW, about the same as Buck

it’s not always the measurables that matter

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 2, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Measurables do not always matter

but for Hayes, 2 more inches would make him a lot more versatile down on the Block.

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 2, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I really don't care

‘cause there a lot of 6’8+ guys who can’t do what he does, and what he does well the Blazers have needed for quite awhile

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 2, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll take the second trophy, in a heartbeat

but I’d sure like to see Greg have a longer NBA career than Bill

When reached 40+ years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 3, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Did not Roy -or people close to him- say he was doing very well?

If he is thinking about retirement if the Blazers cut him, that says more than anything. He thinks he is done, Darius Miles knees 2.0, bone on bone.

by amlmart1 on Dec 1, 2011 11:53 PM PST reply actions  

Step 1. Roy retires.

Step 2. Roy gets cryogenically frozen.

Step 3. Roy gets thawed out in a time when a procedure for replacing missing knee cartilage has been invented.

Step 4. Roy comes back to rule rip city and goes down in history as an all-time great!

Get it done PA!

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by NCBlazerfan on Dec 2, 2011 6:05 AM PST reply actions  

right...

so then we should expect to win a title in 2084

by blazerblaze on Dec 2, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

slide over, Brandon

make some room in that tank!

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 2, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you're a few hundred years off

Now if we want to talk human brain in a robot body, then you’re timeline is looking pretty good.

In the future we’ll see players get hurt, go into the locker room and come back out with a robot body for the second half a la Paul pierce except robot.

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by Tyler Durrden on Dec 2, 2011 5:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Roy could "unofficially" retire and collect his paycheck

More importantly – Roy could officially “medically” retire and collect his paycheck.

The Blazers would be in very good shape if Roy medically retired without the need for the Amnesty clause. The Blazers could then amnesty Camby, and ostensibly could recover some insurance money (rumor is, there is some) as well.

Another question is whether the Blazers would be eligible for insurance if they cut Roy under the Amnesty, and then Roy retires.

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 2, 2011 12:24 PM PST reply actions  

Brandon isn't retiring

The guy was brought to tears during the playoffs because of playing time. You REALLY think something who wants to play that bad is going to retire?

The wording in this article is pretty squishy, as in, “may consider” is pretty much a non-statement.

by Lance Uppercut on Dec 2, 2011 2:34 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

PF video

how soon?

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 2, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you for the sanity check.

I’m surprised it took this many comments for somebody to make that point.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

by conspirator5 on Dec 3, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

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