JD 11/20 Classic Lock Out
by amlmart1 on Nov 20, 2011 4:37 AM PST
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Plato:
I was playing in a cave. Like a prisoner I was chained. We were many. Many prisoners chained and held
immobile since our rookie years. Arms and legs were stretched and held in place - heads fixed in place with lots of
money. I could not turn left or right. I was compelled to gaze at a wall in front of me.
Thucydides: This war became inevitable at a certain point when the power of the players reached such a point as to
alarm the owners enough to start a war to check the growth of that players power.
Shakespeare:
Have patience, gentle friends, I must not read it;
It is not meet you know how owners like you.
You are not wood, you are not stones, but men;
And, being men, bearing the owners´proposal,
It will inflame you, it will make you mad:
'Tis good you know not that you are their employees;
For, if you should, O, what would come of it!
Moliere:
- Tell me, can you give us a good product?
- Yes, if you give me plenty of money.
- The deuce! Always money! I think they have nothing else to say except money, money, money! Always that same
word in their mouth, money! They always speak of money! It's their pillow companion, money!
Seneca:
Wherever I turn, I see evidences of my advancing years. I visited lately my investment, and protested about how
much money had been spent on the dilapidated building. My comisioner insisted that the flaws were not due to his
own negligence, that he was "doing everything possible, but the house was old." And this was the house which
grew under my own hands! What has the future in store for me, if stones of my own age are already crumbling?
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whats goin on in the jd tonite?
anybody home?
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 20, 2011 5:16 PM PST reply actions
Questions
I am going to finally get a “smart” cell phone and I want to know peoples opinions on their phones. Mainly whats the best phone out there.
I thought about making this an OT: Fanpost- should I? JDs are a little slow these days.
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 21, 2011 4:12 PM PST reply actions
so is the JD the spot for this topic
or would it be better in its own fanpost?
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 21, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
Probably just the JD
usually its more populated & responsive.. But the lockout has really slowed things. You might be better off doing some independent research on google.
Get it done... Paul.
Hmmm don't know what US Cellular has
Normally I’d recommend the Samsung Galaxy S II (which is Android) or, if you’re an Apple guy, there is always the iPhone. Both are very solid phones, I’ve dealt with various good and bad with both. Windows Phone is also updated, and is now very, very slick. They don’t have as many apps yet though. If I was making the choice, I’d go Android.
But going through US Cellular’s web site, they have an ugly phone selection. The Motorola Electrify (which is their best spec’d Android phone) would probably be your best bet.
I always recommend stopping by to see their phones in person if you can. Nothing beats the ability to actually pick up the phone, feel weight, try out the size. Maybe use the virtual keyboard, and compare it to a physical slide-out keyboard.
Here’s a review of the Motorola Photon, which is the exact same phone, just with a different name for Sprint. Engadget gave it a sparkling review. If I was buying a phone for US Cellular (I don’t know them well), it would almost assuredly be my winner.
If for some reason you want a physical keyboard, looks like the HTC 7 Pro is your choice. It’s a Windows phone, so it’s nice, but with less apps.
Thanks man
That samsung galaxy s ll is the phone Ive been thinking about, but I gotta look for a different carrier.
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 21, 2011 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
They also just released the Galaxy SII Skyrocket
Which is an S2 that supports the next-gen LTE network (Currently for AT&T but should be on other networks soon).
BTW Amazon Wireless is doing a deal where you can get any phone for a penny if you sign up for new wireless service. Not sure if you can transfer your phone number though. The site is struggling under the load tonight, which, considering it’s amazon, means it must be a big load.
Im going to check the skyrocket right now.
Have you heard much about the upcoming Samsung Nexus Prime? It supposedly is going to be the bomb. My cousin worked for us cellular for awhile and he recs samsung. I certainly like their tvs.(black friday baby!) Im not that into the iphone although I know alot of people are. Gracias amigo for the info
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 22, 2011 12:56 AM PST up reply actions
From everything I've heard, you also can't go wrong with the Prime
Supposed to be a nice phone, though it’s not quite as cutting-edge I believe. I haven’t had a chance to check the specs to confirm that, since I haven’t planned to get one.
that skyrocket looks killer
i tried Amazon last night, talk about overload like you said, I got the page to fully download once outta like 20 trys. I kinda want a phone with ice cream sandwich, most phones are still rockin gingerbread. What phone do you have?
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 22, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
I have an HTC Desire HD
Nice phone, but a little bit dated already. Newer ones have faster processors, nicer resolution screens.
So far, the Nexus Prime has ICS, but I’m not sure what else will release soon.. haven’t kept up with release dates!
Yep the Nexus Prime/Galaxy will be the first phone with ICS
but Verizon just pumped out 2 other very nice looking phones in the Motorola Droid Razor and the HTC Rezound. I’d look at all 3 and pick one of those. Both of the those are running Gingerbread but both have been promised ICS.
And if you’re set on a Android phone, then take some time and youtube “Moto Blur” (not that they use that name anymore) and “HTC Sense”. Motorola, HTC, and Samsung all add their own custom interface over the top of whatever version of Android their phone is running. In my opinion they all are unnecessary and annoying. They add features I don’t really use or want hogging space on my phone. That would be the main reason I’d suggest the Prime/Galaxy. It’s going to be a straight up Google phone, nothing else will be added to it.
Then again you could always “root” your phone and remove all that extra crap but that’s an entirely different subject.
Also, check to see if you have 4g in your area! If you don’t then you might as well not spend $300 on one of these newer phones. I just bought a Droid Incredible 2 (pretty much the same thing as Timmay’s Desire, but on Verizon) cuz I don’t have 4g at my house. And i’m totally satisfied with it.
by hoodieNation on Nov 22, 2011 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
Not to complicate things
But it’s also useful, if you’re moving to Verizon or AT&T, to consider getting a phone that supports LTE, since that would be useful over the two year contract of the phone, since LTE (the next gen, faster data network) is likely to expand over that time.
I would have just waited for the Nexus
but I don’t have 4G at home yet, and, more importantly lol, I just used my sister-in-laws upgrade, hehe. So I still have mine to use in Feb. Not that I need a different phone. I bought this one just to hold me over, but I actually like it quite a bit.
by hoodieNation on Nov 22, 2011 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly the same with my HTC...
Bought it to hold me over, and immediately liked it more than expected. It has HSPA+, which has been nice. I can also upgrade to CM9 later if I want. The wife had phone envy immediately, and she recently dumped her iphone for a nicer Android. I wasn’t sure she’d like it, but to my surprise, she’s really happy with it. I can’t pry that thing away from her.
I do think that, much like porting a phone number between wireless providers, you should be able to port app purchases back and forth across different phones, assuming it has the same app available. It’s the ultimate in phone lock-in right now.
“I do think that, much like porting a phone number between wireless providers, you should be able to port app purchases back and forth across different phones, assuming it has the same app available. It’s the ultimate in phone lock-in right now.”
You know you can download any app you pay for again on a different phone right? Or is that just what you were saying here? lol.
by hoodieNation on Nov 22, 2011 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Gotcha
And I totally agree. I would probably try out the iphone if this was possible.
by hoodieNation on Nov 23, 2011 9:11 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm running CM7 on my Dinc2 right now.
I do miss my Droid 1 though, it had a million different rom options.
by hoodieNation on Nov 22, 2011 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
Also
if you don’t want a full 2 year commitment (and the $29/month data plan) to a new phone carrier then I’d suggest looking around on ebay for a used phone. They’re a ton of good phones that are now “outdated”. I bought my wife a Droid X for $120. It’s in perfect shape. It’s very very easy to activate your phone too when you by a used one.
And whatever you do, do not buy your phone directly from Verizon-wireless.com or from the Verizon store (if you go with them). If you get a new phone go to Walmart.com or Wirefly.com and you’ll get the exact same phone/plan and probably some extra stuff for $100 less.
by hoodieNation on Nov 22, 2011 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
Just don't get a Galaxy Nexus
At least the European version has a bad hardware bug that can turn alarms and rings silent.
Popular pun: It’s the silent/stealth iPhone killer
hey norsky
thanks for joining in, what celly do you have?
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 22, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Apple for private and former business reasons, Dell Streak for current business reasons
But we misuse the Streaks for something very different than as a phone, so I can’t really recommend it for that :)
In my project, we’ve experienced a number of weird Android bugs and HW bugs like phones needing one screen re-calibration before the touch sensor really working fine, phones going out, GPS not working, etc. But as said above, we are using it in a way for which it was not specifically designed, more like an industrial device than a consumer device.
Have you tried working with the OEM or Google directly?
Just curious if they’re helpful in that situation.
The good news is that you have source access, if you’re up for manually making changes to fix a problem. Don’t get me wrong, you have to really want to fix it.
Question to the Junk Drawer & all Blazers Edge members:
How many people would be down for a general current basketball thread, not just NCAA, but Euroleague, ACB, French LNB etc.. I could post the schedules, preview some of the big games & if anyone wants to see a particular game we can operate completely separate from SBNation via Google Docs through links? Let me know if this sounds like a good idea & mods let me know if you frown upon such a thought.
Get it done... Paul.
I would
especially to keep up on the stats of all the NBA players playing currently in the Euroleague or any league for that matter. We need some bball to talk about on here. Id rather chat about current players who are actually playing like Batum; Chatting about a future season/trades/drafts is all speculation because noone truly knows what will happen, so it lacks appeal for me. As for posting live games or games in general, I know sometimes they frown on that, but, I dont know what the rules are.
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 21, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
heck it would be neat to have a permanent link to each Blazer playing abroad
for example, the latest write up on Batums overseas play was great. So if we had a link to go to batum and see his next game, his current game, stats for each, updated daily. One for Patty Mills or any other Blazer especially, that would be sweet
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 21, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
I think it would expand our
“smartest fans in the NBA” trait tenfold over other fanbases.
Get it done... Paul.
Thats what I was thinking
I’ll get to work on starting the framework of the main post soon, would be nice to have everyone be able to watch each Batum(or any player for that matter) game & discuss afterwords like a normal game. Need to get a moderators opinion, see if there is a loophole in regards to how to go about it. I know several other SBNation sites don’t police people who post streams but BE is one of the more strict out there.
Get it done... Paul.
This is definitely kind of a borderline area
Are there no legit ways to see these games?
You might want to give Dave a shout on this one, and let him make a final call. I tend to be one of the strict ones, though. It’s an iffy area, and we tend to err on the side of caution.
Okay
This is a FNB, “French league” matchup. Asvel Lyon-Villeurbanne, which features Tony Parker(he owns the team) & Ronny Turiaf VS Nicolas Batum’s team, Nancy SLUC. Its been on youtube for over a week now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvE8krylSCE The most star studded matchup you will find in the FNB. What I was thinking is I could just link to a google docs link, which is simply just a document with several links.
I emailed Dave’s blazersub@yahoo.com account asking him what plays & what doesn’t.
Get it done... Paul.
good idea
ive messed up a couple times but they seem to know it was unintentional, and let me off easy(stuff like funked up a JD post once, multiple posts in a day, flagged pics which were lebowski pics just not bball related, the pics were even recd but also flagged). Thats why I asked what I asked up above. Im not sure the main difference between a fanpost and shot. Like, should I post this as its own fan post or does this belong as a fanshot or should it just go into the JD? Ive read the site rules a bunch. I just want to follow them because I enjoy this site and want to remain a member. Anyways, their pretty easy going if you ask me, and they really do manage a classy site. They will help and answer any question. Theyve done it for me many times!
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 21, 2011 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
We try to be pretty relaxed whenever possible (as you've seen!), it's a pretty cool group.
Here’s the deal with fanposts and fanshots:
When you want to talk in-depth about a single topic, it’s fanpost time. If you just want to stop by, and give everyone a link, a picture or a video, it’s fanshot time.
If you want to use a link to springboard into a bigger topic, it gets iffy. Usually if it’s a paragraph or less, it’s a fanshot. If it’s 3+ paragraphs of extended analysis or thoughts, fanpost.
Like you said, if you’re doing multiple fanposts a day, we’ll probably say hi to you, since that gets spammy pretty quickly. Same goes for if you’re spamming in general, linking to sites you’re associated with, that kind of thing.
And of course, if there’s already an ongoing conversation about the topic, just include links as a comment in the existing conversation, unless it’s a big story on its own, or it just makes sense to separate it out. We remove posts all the time if they’re a duplicate of stuff on the front page or the fanshots/fanposts. It’s an easy mistake if you’re excited about a story.
That’s all totally unofficial, just based on experience. There are exceptions, and we try to be pretty relaxed when possible. It’s always about common sense for this stuff.
dude those announcers
are the french version of mike and mike HA HA !
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 21, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
more like the french Mike singular
the other guy was just an “entraineur”
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 21, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
scary-if I could look back through my comments far enough
at the beginning of the lockout I said something like I wonder if NBA players will go to Europe and we would all be watching Euro games. Someone at the time said it was highly unlikely because the lockout would end first they said. I wish they were right, cuz here I am watching NBA players in the Euroleague hoopin it up.
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 21, 2011 8:59 PM PST reply actions
Thats what I'm saying
Its too good not to share. I’m watching Caja Laboral(Reggie Williams & Kevin Seraphin) VS Nancy(Batum) right now, great to see Batum be aggressive off the bounce. Akinbala the big man for Nancy looks like he can be a role player in the NBA. He has a knack for scoring inside & is doing it against two other NBA players in Seraphin & Joey Dorsey.
Every team seems to have a scrappy big man with a neckbeard that dabbles in shooting 3’s & good passing.
Get it done... Paul.
Nancy is a pretty good team
Nic really had quite a game—do you got any final stats?
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 21, 2011 11:01 PM PST reply actions
For the Asvel game
box score: http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/France/2011/1106_340_421.asp
Get it done... Paul.
Batums final stat line was great 21pts-6reb-5ast 1blk (38min most on either team!)
Victor Samnick had a huge game as well 25-5-1 3blks!
Tony Parker flirted with a triple dub! 20-8-9
Ronny Turiaf had a decent game: 9-8-3
Blocks are a weird stat on that box score. Im not sure if im reading it right. It says blocks and then below that it has 2 stats(FV & AG). Whats that stand for?
Thanks for the info by the way.
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 22, 2011 12:40 AM PST up reply actions
thats kinda what i was thinkin it might be
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 22, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
If you look at the chart
You can see every in favor block from nics team has a corresponding against block on tp’s.
what cell phone do you use?
im trying to figure out which one i should get
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 22, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
I was doing the same thing you were doing about 3-4 months ago.
My really really really old phone was dead and I was going to upgrade and was ready to take on getting a smart phone. I was deadset but entirely divided over my choice. If there had been a JD, I would have asked the question in it. And I considered making one just for that purpose but that’s neither here nor there.
I ended up not being singularly impressed enough with any of the smart phones I looked at to get one. I considered a lot of phones including a number of the ones listed by hoodie and Timmay above. But I just wasn’t quite sold that any of them were quite were I expected it to be and I didn’t want to make the investment if I wasn’t like singing about it.
I ended up getting an LG Octane ( Verizon) and I like it. It’s billed as a social media focused phone with good video/cam for it’s price range. I like the simple design. I like being away from a touch screen again. It’s a far cry from a smart phone but I decided that if I was going for settle for anything that I wanted to settle for the cheapest best option rather than invest in that settle.
sweet-i was gonna ask if he got back to you on it.
I cant wait to see what you got in store for us!
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 22, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
hey 420
What kind of cell phone do you have and what kind do you think is the best or recommend?
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 22, 2011 12:22 PM PST reply actions
tracfones cool, definitely cheap
but hey your not locked into any lame 2 year contract either—
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 22, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
Tracfones are cheap
but I still don’t understand how that business model is viable. They make no money on selling the phone (you can pick them up for $10 at the store, which is less than the replacement cost for the battery alone), and I can’t imagine anybody who uses a cellphone regularly not having it be more cost effective to get a monthly plan.
anyone got some cell phone advice for me?
Whats your opinion of the best celly? Im pretty sure im rollin with the samsung brand but still not 100% sure.
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 22, 2011 2:24 PM PST reply actions
this lockout sucks
BE is a virtual ghost town these days
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 22, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
I have a Samsung Transform on Sprint, its a pretty solid phone
definitely dated by now, its on Android 2.2 and most likely won’t be upgraded any further. But I’ve had very little trouble with it.
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Nov 22, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57327800-85/android-vs-iphone-vs-windows-phone-pick-your-smartphone-os/
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Nov 23, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
fail
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Nov 23, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
I say this with a straight face: They're all good now.
Even the Windows Phone, which is almost scary-slick at this point, and just needs to build an app market and grow their corporate inroads.
The iPhone is the iPhone, it’s solid and either you like or you don’t. Android has completely caught up and sometimes surpasses Apple now.
You really can’t go wrong anymore, unless you absolutely need an app that only one phone OS offers. The hardest part of switching between phones (other than re-purchasing apps) is that you get hard-wired for one interface, and it takes a month to re-wire your brain.
totally agree.
you ever look into the MIUI rom? It basically turns your android phone into an iphone… (well sorta)
It’s pretty nice, but I do prefer the stock androidiness of Cyanogen.
by hoodieNation on Nov 23, 2011 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yep! I've been watching the MIUI progress
Like you said, it’s a little too iPhoney, which isn’t what I’m looking for. But I could see it being useful for giving an Android phone to someone moving from an iPhone, or something who loves the interface but isn’t a big Apple fan. I’m still waiting for Apple to sue it out of existence.
Since I think it’ll be at least 6 months, and maybe never, before the HTC Desire HD gets ICS, I suspect I’ll be moving to Cyanogenmod in January. I wonder how much Samsung’s ICS release will resemble Cyanogenmod, since they hired the main guy to help with their ROM department. Should be interesting. That Galaxy S II is one nice phone.
i'm curious how much how nerd you are Timmay
:) and I mean that in the best possible way. lol.
How much have you looked into roms and whatnot for your phone?
I’m for sure a phone geek. Probably spend more of my internet time on tech/phone stuff than I do on the Blazers.
by hoodieNation on Nov 23, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah, I know the ROMs available for my phone.
My nerd level is that I know all the ROMs, I can install them as needed, I can run any OS as necessary on my computer (I’m currently dual-booting Windows and Linux), but I tend not to do any active coding. While my brain can be wired for coding, I tend not to enjoy it very much.
I mean, I’m running a rooted Nook Color with CM7 on it (they did very nice work). Well, “running” it is a relative term. Funny enough, I rarely find a true usage need for a tablet.
nice
I’ve been looking at both the Nook Color and the Kindle Fire.
“Funny enough, I rarely find a true usage need for a tablet.”
That’s kind of what I’ve been thinking. What would I even do with a tablet that I can’t already do on my phone? And I’ve already got a Kindle 3 with the keyboard, which I greatly prefer for reading.
by hoodieNation on Nov 24, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
I have an original Nook, which I barely use
I’ve been considering picking up a Kindle Fire as a Christmas present for my dad, just so he can have something to play games and listen to music/youtube on. Unfortunately I’m broke, because the thing is awesomely cheap (compared to every other tablet) and seems to be a quality device.
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Nov 24, 2011 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
The e-ink Kindle is a lot better for reading than a full tablet
It’s not even a contest. The Kindle Fire is intended to use with Amazon’s cloud services, and with that goal, I think it’s very very effective. I would not appreciate the lack of access to the Android Market (though someone may have already worked around that, I haven’t checked).
The Nook Color is a solid tablet when using cyanogenmod (and I’m looking forward to the ICS version). But I really find it has limited daily use. In fact, I normally use it in two situations:
1. If I’m out somewhere that has wifi, and I know I’ll be sitting and waiting for the wife for a significant amount of time. And if it’s not a pain to carry around.
2. If I go somewhere I want something bigger than the phone, but I don’t want to bring an expensive laptop. Or even a cheap laptop. If the tablet is stolen, I’ll revoke its limited rights, and accept I lost it. A laptop is more expensive to replace.
A kinda third is if I’m going on a very short trip, one night or less. More than one night, and I’m bringing my Lenovo x120e, which is a wonderful little laptop (It’s hard to call it a netbook, it doesn’t act like one) and cheaper than many “premium” tablets.
The tablet sits around the house looking lonely a lot. I prefer a pointing device, a physical keyboard, and a properly angled screen.
Yes indeed
Its a great way to keep active on here during the lockout, not to mention its awesome to be able to mention random stuff without spamming the crap out of my Facebook page, lol
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Nov 23, 2011 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
Junkies, take a look at my FanPost
Going in depth explaining European Basketball, BasketballNeverStops
The Youtube content will be done within a few days but always keep in mind if there is any match(EuroLeague, NCAA or even past games of the NBA) you want to see feel free to email: basketballneverstopz@gmail.com
Get it done... Paul.
BTW, Nicolas Batum's SLUC Nancy team is facing off right now against
The Italian Bennet Cantu squad in EuroLeague play. I can’t post live stream feed links but once again, email basketballneverstopz@gmail.com & I can send you a link if you interested.
Get it done... Paul.
Hope everyone enjoyed their Thankgiving
anyone have any big Black Friday plans??
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Nov 24, 2011 7:57 PM PST reply actions
Going to Madrid to spend week-end with old time friends.
Every year a different town.
by amlmart1 on Nov 24, 2011 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
BEdge
where I live vicariously through people who do things that are WAYYYYYY cooler that I can do.
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Nov 24, 2011 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
Let me just say
even though I got some presents (as in presents bought for me) out of it, I’m never making the mistake of going to Walmart on Black Friday again (even though its technically still T-day, but whatever lol)
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Nov 24, 2011 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
It's just not worth it.
If we absolutely must hit a sale tomorrow (and we never do the early morning ones), we wait until the frenzy ends, usually 11am or so, and pop in after the rush, buy a few things in the usually-small lines, then go get lunch.
But even this year, I think we’ll skip that. Maybe we’ll see the Muppets while everyone is shopping.
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