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Portland Trail Blazers All-Time Most Disappointing Acquisitions #4: LaRue Martin

With most players on our All-Disappointing Acquisition list I have to explain why the player made it, employing the nuances of the story to get the right balance.  LaRue Martin is different.  He pretty much sells himself.  

Here's all you need to know:

  • He was the #1 overall pick in the 1972 NBA draft
  • He averaged 5.3 points and 4.6 rebounds for his career
  • That career lasted four years, then he was out of the league.  Portland traded him in 1976 to Seattle for "future considerations" (which apparently still haven't happen yet, though we're well into the future now) and he never played for the Sonics.

Just for sake of comparison, Kwame Brown is widely considered the worst #1 overall pick of the modern era.  Brown has averaged 6.8 points and 5.6 rebounds and is still playing after 10 years in the league.  Thus LaRue Martin is on the short list for worst #1 picks of all time.  That pretty much guaranteed he'd make ours.

The more interesting debate will probably be why I put LaRue fourth instead of just tossing him into the top slot and calling it a day.  In a huge role reversal, today I'll find myself explaining why a disappointing guy actually wasn't that bad. 

First and foremost, Martin wasn't really the Blazers' guy.  Like the rest of the civilized world they wanted Bob McAdoo out of North Carolina that year.  McAdoo--by far the superior player with career averages of 22 and 9 over 14 seasons played--wasn't keen on coming to Portland.  He and the Blazers couldn't agree on contract terms.  Still needing a big man the Blazers went with the next best thing:  Martin.  He had shown favorably against Bill Walton in college.  I suppose they figured that was enough.

Second, who else really came out of that draft besides McAdoo?  Julius Erving was technically drafted 12th by the Milwaukee Bucks but he joined the ABA.  If the good Doctor wasn't sanguine about heading to Milwaukee he wouldn't have been jazzed about Portland either.  Paul Westphal went 10th to Boston and ended up averaging 20 a game for several seasons as their shooting guard.  But the Blazers already had Paul Westphal, except his name was Geoff Petrie.  Don't be fooled by Ralph Simpson at #11 either.  It's not the guy you think it is.  He was was only 6'5" tall and played forward.  (And you wouldn't have really wanted that other Ralph anyway.)  In short, while the correct answer to "Who should the Blazers have taken instead?" is technically "ANYONE!!!" in actuality the loss wasn't that bad.  If they couldn't get McAdoo the draft was a wash out.

Third, it's hard to argue this move significantly undermined the future of the team when Bill Walton would be drafted two years later and lead the team to a title in 1976-77.

Fourth, raise your hand if you're really, really disappointed the Blazers took LaRue Martin #1 overall in '72, if it still eats at you, if you still suffer over it.  The only guy with his hand up right now is LaRue Martin.  He had to live with those expectations and the behind-the-back whispers and their accompanying emotions.  Everyone else got over it as soon as Walton came. 

Besides, the guy left a rallying call that's also the name of one of our dearest and most respected members at Blazersedge.  Who could knock him after that?

Because Bob McAdoo's agent and Portland ownership couldn't see eye to eye in 1972 and because leaving him off would make a mockery of the exercise, LaRue Martin earns the #4 spot in our Most Disappointing Blazer Acquisitions list.

Agree or disagree with LaRue's placement below.

Here's the rest of the list:  #5 Darius Miles #6 Greg Oden  #7 Martell Webster  #8 Sebastian Telfair  #9 Damon Stoudamire   #10 Derek Anderson  #11 Walter Davis   #12 Rudy Fernandez  #13 James Robinson  #14 Scottie Pippen   #15 Walter Berry

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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LaRue seemed inevitable on this list

He had to be somewhere, this seems as good a spot as any.

Legend has it that the org had worked out a deal with McAdoo, and the next day, he and his management had changed their minds and backed out. No idea if that’s true, but it’s clear he didn’t want to come to Portland.

It’s weird to hear about the days when a team could pre-negotiate a contract with a player, not unlike how the NFL has done it. These days, there is no negotiation of course.

by Timmay! on Oct 13, 2011 10:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Yup

All the youngsters are yelling, “Tampering!” It’s a different league now. It’s funny how “Wild West” a lot of things were in those days. Nowadays, of course, McAdoo would have no choice, his salary would be pre-set, and the Blazers would be the culmination of a dream for him just because they’re in the NBA. Also Portland would have a draft board full of alternatives in case McAdoo didn’t work out for some freaky reason.

—Dave

by Dave on Oct 13, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wild West is right

Like how we traded the accounting services of Eric Spoelstra’s dad for a point guard in the 80’s.

Also, I thought the Kandi man was considered the worst first pick?

by Caurelius on Oct 13, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are still players who threaten to not sign with a certain team if it picks them, or at least raise a big stink about it

They might not have the legal lever to see that through, but taking the risk to bring in a highly talented but also highly disgruntled employee isn’t ideal either. Plus there are the stars forcing a trade, which might result in the “Carmelo Anthony” rule in the next CBA…

by Norsktroll on Oct 14, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ricky Rubio was the closest to doing that in recent years, but even he eventually signed with ...

Minnesota when push came to shove. Last guy I can think of who successfully pulled that stunt was Steve Francis, who was in a huff when the Vancouver Grizzlies drafted him and forced his way out of Canada.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Oct 14, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eli Manning in the NFL

Sabas: 'You can't smoke, you can't drink, you can't play basketball.' So of the things I like, only sex is left,"

by 92wastheyear on Oct 14, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he was the most recent one in the NFL.

In NFL history, John Elway was the most famous one who pulled that stunt.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Oct 14, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I remember the Elway one too

Colts had the pick as I recall

Sabas: 'You can't smoke, you can't drink, you can't play basketball.' So of the things I like, only sex is left,"

by 92wastheyear on Oct 14, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the NFL, it'd be interesting to see if anyone does that in the near future.

The player, however, would have to sit out an entire season and reenter the draft the next year, which could be costly.

In 2002, Bryant McKinnie almost did that.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2002/11/01/vikings_mckinnie_ap/

In 1986, Bo Jackson did exactly that and it screwed over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Oct 14, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question is ....was it because his wife didn't like Portland?
“Legend has it that the org had worked out a deal with McAdoo, and the next day, he and his management had changed their minds..”

Sabas: 'You can't smoke, you can't drink, you can't play basketball.' So of the things I like, only sex is left,"

by 92wastheyear on Oct 14, 2011 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Buffalo

Close enough

Sabas: 'You can't smoke, you can't drink, you can't play basketball.' So of the things I like, only sex is left,"

by 92wastheyear on Oct 16, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay...

I’m really too young to remember this one. What I know about LaRue Martin is what I have been told by my father. Which is pretty much what Dave presents here. My dad seems to believe The Blazers had a deal in principle with Bob McAdoo, and that McAdoo tried the ol’ add something to the deal after the handshake maneuver…and The Blazers wouldn’t play along…which would explain why we didn’t get McAdoo but still not really explain why we then picked Martin. I can’t validate any of this, but I’m just going to enjoy the fact that LaRue Martin is a Blazer disappointment I can’t remember.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Oct 13, 2011 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

"future considerations"?

Spounds like Serge Ibaka to me.

by lama on Oct 13, 2011 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I think technically

it was supposed to be their first round pick in 2007.

—Dave

by Dave on Oct 13, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually if I had a time machine

I’d totally do that. Go back and say, “We’ll give you Martin. You can have Wicks too. We’ll just take some far-off pick. Let’s say your first-round selection in 2007. That doable? I mean, it’s 30 years from now. Who really cares?”

—Dave

by Dave on Oct 13, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Give me a few weeks

my time machine is almost complete.

by AR-15 on Oct 14, 2011 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

In the back of my mind,

I was kinda wondering if we owed Seattle the ‘future considerations’, for taking Martin off our hands.

by manfredi on Oct 14, 2011 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

In all likelihood, it was some cash considerations that didn’t have to be fulfilled.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Oct 14, 2011 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe it was them leaving for OKCity in about 30 years

Now all we need is the rest of the roster to get into "how can everybody help Nicco and Oden" mode. -- Oden Mad, Oden Smash! Sep 29, 2010 7:47 PM

by LaoTzu on Oct 14, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bah!

There was an old gypsy woman present at those trade negotiations who waved a duck and some dead rat tails over the participants and said, "Someday, in generations to come, following the Great Drought caused by the White-Haired Wizard and his minions, just when all seems lost a descendant of the green banner that is no longer green shall find a change of heart and join the crimson and ebony. Then shall the team conquer and its Golden Age shall be sung by the minstrels ever after.

The Portland guy said, “That seems fair. You can have LaRue.” And the Seattle guy shrugged and said, “Done.”

I have this on good authority.

—Dave

by Dave on Oct 14, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Blazers are good at that

We also got unnamed “future considerations” in the Juan Dixon for Fred Jones trade in 2007 from the Raptors. Though I assume that was his agreement to not later exercise his player option for another year.

by Norsktroll on Oct 14, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

The oddest future considerations that's still outstanding is Portland's right to swap second-round ...

picks with Denver in the 2012 NBA Draft for assistant coach Tim Grgurich.

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

Portland has also got a 2015 second-round draft pick coming to it from the laughable Tanguy Ngombo trade, which was an amusing dust-up right before the NBA shut down into lockout mode.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Oct 14, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Darn

I had Miles and Martin in my top two. Then I remembered (reluctantly) Sam Bowie. I assume another spot would go to Mychal Thompson (L*ker defection scorn in mind.)
Can’t think of the other spot.

This may sound like blasphemy but I’m surprised Sabas isn’t on the list. The hype to output ratio is favoring disappointment, despite his warrior like stature here in Rip City.

by JMLakaShotCaller on Oct 13, 2011 11:19 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I got it!

One of these should be “every point guard after Terry Porter.”

by JMLakaShotCaller on Oct 13, 2011 11:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I assume Sam Bowie, Mychal Thompson, and Kiki V. are the three guys left.

However, Arvydas Sabonis could make this list based on that “hype to output ratio” argument of yours.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Oct 14, 2011 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be surprised if Sidney Wicks is left off.

I could easily see one of Kiki or Mychal not making the list. Weird that they could be anywhere from top 3, to not on the list, but true nonetheless.

by Timmay! on Oct 14, 2011 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd leave off Mychal Thompson long before Kiki V., who's more of a disappointment historically.

I must admit, though, that I’m still somewhat stunned Darius Miles made it into the top-5 of this list.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Oct 14, 2011 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

i really don't see how you can put Thompson on this list

he came in here and gave us 7 years of high caliber play. he wasn’t a bust, he didn’t have off the court issues, he didn’t get dumped to some other team 2 years into his tenure.

the ONE thing you can say is that we picked him over Larry Bird. But two things there: Bird wasn’t coming to the league right away, you would have had to wait. We were still trying to rekindle the championship team – don’t forget the year we drafted Thompson we had the best record in the entire league, and were only derailed by injuries. We knew we had limited time. Picking a guy who wasn’t even going to play the first season isn’t something aspiring title teams generally do. Secondly, we thought we could nab Bird with the 7th pick.

"Well, you can always sell your team."

by douglast on Oct 14, 2011 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, it doesn't make sense to me

The knock on him seems to be exclusively that he was a #1 pick who wasn’t an amazing player, but I’d hardly say he even counts historically in the annals of top overall busts. Sure he wasn’t great, and the majority of overall top picks were all stars, you could still pretty easily name 5 top picks that were worse (Kwame, Pervis Ellison, Kurt Benson, Olowokandi and LaRue, off the top of my head).

Besides, that team was disintegrating around him anyways with the Walton situation and the Lucas’s anger at not having his contract renegotiated, admittedly Thompson’s deal had something to do with that but was hardly the main driver. It’s not like you can blame Thompson for that.

by Royster on Oct 14, 2011 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thompson didn't defect to the Lakers

Portland traded him to the Spurs in the summer of 1986. The Spurs traded him to the Lakers midway through the next season.

"Well, you can always sell your team."

by douglast on Oct 14, 2011 1:56 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

We need to get our hands on that contract and find what those future considerations are!

Perhaps we can gimmick our way into taking someone from the thunder due to the language of the agreement!

Maybe there was an escalation clause that was forgotten about and now they have to give us Durant for free!

This is it boys! This is our ticket! LaRue Martin will go down in history as the savior of the franchise!

"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez

by TheGreatMon on Oct 13, 2011 11:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Dang it, but I gotta say that Dave's got some memory! This is a fascinating trip down memory lane.

We can all quibble about exactly where everyone should place in the rankings, and I’d probably quibble myself. But although I remember most everyone else, I hardly remember as many details about James Robinson as Dave wrote about.

-Jack

by jayfisher on Oct 14, 2011 12:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Sam Bowie

With only three spots lefts, let’s see … Many will probably include Sam Bowie.

I might consider Bowie also. However I have to also say that some strange sense of fairness inside me keeps tugging at my conscience that someone is a disappointment because of career destroying injury. I keep thinking that if I was in the hospital at his bedside and saw the pain and disappointment in his eyes, I’d give him a hug and tell him that as far as I’m concerned he was never a disappointment to me.

For me the biggest disappointments come with the disappointment of loyalty, friendship, and attitude. Like watching the hurt in Maurice Cheeks after Darius Miles told Cheeks that Miles didn’t like him. Or a player giving the finger to fans who previously had cheered and supported him. Or team star laughing and saying “Just CTC, baby!” or throwing a towel in a teammate’s face in front of thousands, or laughing after hitting a teammate with a ball.

So if someone like Bowie ends up being chosen No. 1 largely due to injury, I’m sorry .. I really do respect others’ opinions, but I cannot agree.

-Jack

by jayfisher on Oct 14, 2011 1:25 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Rec

Listing is inherently subjective and we all have areas where we would put emphasis, but I can’t argue with that sentiment.

"You can pretty much flip a coin to see which Portland team will show up: the dark-horse world-beaters or the mixed-up eggbeaters" - Dave

by conspirator5 on Oct 14, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm the total opposite.

When guys with attitude problems act like jerks I usually think its just annoying. But when a young guy with a great attitude and tons of potential gets hurt…. Man that is disappointing.

by hoodieNation on Oct 14, 2011 11:17 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Apparently time does heal all wounds....

…cause it’s hard to see why it wasn’t “#2 for LaRue”

I mean, seriously, a #1 pick by a struggling franchise that was worse than Kwame Brown? The logic is tortured.

-t

by webted on Oct 14, 2011 9:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Dale Davis

I keep expecting Dale Davis to appear, though putting him in the top three would seem pretty harsh.

by raybone on Oct 14, 2011 10:25 AM PDT reply actions  

I didn't think he'd be this high

but I really don’t see any conceivable way DD can be left off this list. We acquired him for a bit part (12 mpg for JO the previous season), admittedly a talented one, and DD was an all-star center the previous year which filled a huge hole with Sabas slowing down considerably and us needing a decent replacement/backup to spell him like when he fouled out in game 7 of the WCF.

Instead, the exact opposite happened and the team immediately tanked. It’s hard to pin it all on DD since we also traded Grant for Kemp that offseason, a huge disappointment in his own right, but the fact remains that he was supposed to be the final championship piece, and he failed miserably at it.

Of course, anyone who watched Shaq dominate the 2000 finals should have known that DD wasn’t going to be an answer for him.

by Royster on Oct 14, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I kept expecting Otis Thorpe to appear

But I guess Dave isn’t suprised we got so little in trading Clyde to Houston.

Now all we need is the rest of the roster to get into "how can everybody help Nicco and Oden" mode. -- Oden Mad, Oden Smash! Sep 29, 2010 7:47 PM

by LaoTzu on Oct 14, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Kiki Vadeweghe's sister makes the list

Now all we need is the rest of the roster to get into "how can everybody help Nicco and Oden" mode. -- Oden Mad, Oden Smash! Sep 29, 2010 7:47 PM

by LaoTzu on Oct 14, 2011 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Dang, he's the original Mailman
For the past 25 years, he’s worked for UPS, the last 15 as community services manager of the Illinois district.

by Norsktroll on Oct 14, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thing about LaRue was that he was just a joke.

He was so inept… but he tried hard, and he wasn’t a jerk — and it was before the days of gigantic contracts so nobody begrudged him the money he made. He just wasn’t any good. It really was comical.

ignacio

by ignacio on Oct 14, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disapointing but a peach of a guy

About 20 years ago I played in a golf tournament in a foursome with Snapper Jones and LaRue. He was a very decent and affable person. Good humored and fun. First time LaRue teed up a ball Snapper said to me "LaRue can hit it 400 yards … " WHACK! “But he has no idea where its going!” He was right. LaRue was the king of Gorilla Golf. Man that guy could put em out there, but he had no idea where they were going. I really enjoyed that day, its one of my fondest memories.

by Balzypipes on Oct 14, 2011 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

"Twoooooo for LaRoooooo!"

See, if you had held him back just a couple few spots, you could have done your own Schonz imitation.

by VTDuck on Oct 14, 2011 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Addendum

To this day, when my son or I hit a basket in the driveway, that’s what goes through my mind. Not that I was a big LaRue Martin fan, but the slogan was (I guess) etched onto my brain in my formative years.

by VTDuck on Oct 14, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

McAdoo didn't want to come to Portland...

But BUFFALO was perfectly fine with him?? Wow.

by looster401 on Oct 14, 2011 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Likely Buffalo

paid him enough to overcome any reticence.

—Dave

by Dave on Oct 14, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

LaRuuuuueeee

I remember the fourth quarter of many games, and the Blazers without any hope of winning, the crowd at the Rose Garden would start calling for LaRue. On the radio it would sound like they were booing the team. Bill Schonely would always explain that the fans were calling for LaRue, and usually that was the only scenario in which he played. He was a fan favorite at a time when the Blazers were cellar dwellers and, in the few years they had been in the league, had always been so. Fans were much more indifferent then because expectations were so low. It was a thrill just to have a major league franchise playing in Portland. LaRue had a charming and friendly personality on a team that needed all the positive PR it could get from any source possible.

by bbfred on Oct 14, 2011 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Was gonna say

Those were some advanced, time-traveling fans!

I know what you’re saying though. I almost didn’t want to put Martin on here at all. But by the criteria of the list he had to be named, and fairly highly. There’s a big difference between personally disappointing and on-court disappointing. LaRue is a prime example.

—Dave

by Dave on Oct 14, 2011 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn't one argue that Walton could still be on this list?

But I suppose there’s a difference between heartbreaking and disappointing.

Holding out for Devyn

by T$ 225 on Oct 18, 2011 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

ABSOLUTELY

Walton belongs up there. After ’77, the TBs were the best team in the league and the future seemed to hold glittering golden rings and endless parades. Walton fell apart, turned on “the Man”agement and slinked off to the Clippers.

Back to LaRue. . .his best moment was fighting with Dale Schlueter (of the 9-73 76ers) during LaRue’s rookie year. Bakc then, in the Wild West, players could fight and it was a $50 fight. Pretty good punches thrown, for a couple of tall, less-coordinated guys.

by setshot on Oct 18, 2011 10:07 AM PDT reply actions  

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