Game 38 Recap: Portland Trail Blazers 100, Miami Heat 107
In a Nutshell
The Blazers use daring dribbling, poetic passing, and shining shooting to take Miami to the wire in this game, but in the end the Heat's video-game like individual prowess gave them one score too many for Portland to overcome in regulation despite the Blazers having two looks in the final possesion. Having been down this road before, the Heat know how to handle the Blazers when the game is on the line. Portland folds like origami in the extra period and it becomes a war story for Portland's fans and just another night for Miami's.
Game Flow
The game started out ugly and fast, with both teams committing major turnovers and each running off of the other's mistakes. Dwyane Wade was a major handful for the Blazers as Wesley Matthews proved unable to keep up with him. Wade scored 15 of Miami's first 19 points. Meanwhile Nicolas Batum feasted on turnovers and an Aldridge-centric defense to score 9 in the first, keeping Portland close. When the game slowed to the halfcourt the Heat forged ahead but Portland played around with zone defenses and cut back Miami's scoring to pull nearly even after one, 27-26, Miami.
The biggest facet of the second period was 9-0 runs traded between the teams. Wade and Chris Bosh keyed Miami's early in the period as Portland's second unit faltered on both ends. Batum and Aldridge brought the Blazers back after the Heat got comfortable and started shooting long. When the horn sounded with the Blazers down only 2, Portland fans started to get excited. This was going to be a game.
The third period saw the Blazers take an early lead behind LaMarcus Aldridge's dominant offense. LMA scored 8 points in the first 4:30, contributing the bigger part of what would become a 6-point lead. Portland's confidence seemed to buoy after getting ahead. Their defensive pressure and rebounding ramped up. Meanwhile the Heat looked almost too loose. Having your power forward travel while trying to set up his own three-pointer isn't exactly highlighted in the NBA style manual. If they couldn't get on the break Miami seemed content to hoist the first good shot they saw in a given possession...shots which Portland rebounded and converted into simpler points via quick passing. The Blazers did not commit a single team foul in the period. Only a late rally by LeBron James and a final-possession James Jones three kept the Heat within 2, as Portland led 67-65 after three.
The fourth quarter was a donnybrook, one of the more inspirational Portland efforts of the year. Patty Mills, heretofore woeful, started connecting and his game took off to the stratosphere. He scored 7 points in the first 4 minutes and even got busy with some speedy defense. When Wesley Matthews hit an uber-rare three to put the Blazers up 7 with 2:13 remaining the Miami announcers, to this point rather casual about any potential peril, finally seriously speculated that the Heat could lose this game. At that juncture you knew the Blazers were playing well. Sadly that commotion in the Miami huddle was Coach Erik Spoelstra inputting the damn cheat code on LeBron James. The King would score 7 of the Heat's last 11 points, competing a run in which he scored 11 of their 15 overall. The only shots he missed in the period were a couple of free throws. The Blazers held their own, though, behind an Aldridge-led offense. They went to Aldridge in the block consistently. Anyone who doubts his maturation this year should look at the last three minutes of this game. When he wasn't scoring he was making exactly the right pass at exactly the right time. Sadly his teammates couldn't hit their opportunities, letting Portland's lead evaporate. The Blazers had the ball for the last 24 seconds of a tied game. They inserted Andre Miller for Patrick Mills and Rudy Fernandez for Marcus Camby, dribbled down the clock, and then watched Miller miss a pair of mid-range jumpers, the second as the horn sounded. The game was knotted at 93 and going into overtime.
As soon as the OT tip went up the Heat said [word you can't say on Blazersedge] this and started dominating the game. They hit the first two shots they put up and never looked back. The Blazers started the session with 2 misses and 2 turnovers and never recovered. James again proved a monster for Miami with Wade and Bosh chipping in. Outside of a short Nicolas Batum jumper Aldridge was the only Blazer to score in extended minutes. Three Heat superstars beat two Blazer forwards by 7 points in an anti-climactic finish. Miami 107, Portland 100.
Notable Developments
Besides Aldridge's overall floor game and a couple more individual outings discussed below, the biggest development in this game was how the Blazers refused to take crap. After getting tattooed by Wade early Portland locked down defensively and on the boards, not letting their copious use of zones affect their ability to retrieve the ball. They never stopped trying to force turnovers and never stopped running when they got them. The Blazers also played directly and confidently on offense, especially with their passes and cuts. And when it came time to foul in the fourth, Portland didn't mess around. If a Heat player drove, that Heat player got busted to the ground hard. That physicality--in the overall defense and in fouling--has been a missing ingredient for this team for years. Ultimately the Heat made impossible shots look possible and possible shots look routine. That's their gig. But the Blazers didn't bow to them for lack of trying. They made Miami take them seriously. They even made Miami mad for a while. For this team that's an accomplishment. It's also pretty much what they'll need to do when and if they make the playoffs.
Individual Notes
You can't say enough about LaMarcus Aldridge tonight. He left everyone in awe. He was truly the center of the offense without dominating the ball unduly or stopping play in any way. He shot 12-23 for 31 points but even more impressive were his 14 rebounds and 7 assists. He was the guy the Heat keyed on as the game got tougher for them and he didn't let it faze him a bit. Considering the opponent and the spotlight, this may have been his best all-around game as a pro.
Nicolas Batum also rose to the occasion, scoring early and often and playing some fine defense early. He went 9-16 for 22 points. The blemish on his record would be the 1-5 shooting from distance. Portland fans will remember a ridiculously sweet block of James in the first period that set the tone for the night.
Wes Money looked more like chump change tonight. His defense was ineffective early. His three point shooting was abysmal throughout the game, as he finished 2-10 from the arc and 6-20 overall for 14 points. Many of those shots were wide open too. The bright spot was 5 assists. I've noticed that Matthews needs to warm up to a situation before he looks comfortable in it and he appeared to be in warm-up mode in this game, perhaps knowing against whom he was playing. I'll be interested to see how he fares in the return match in March.
Marcus Camby had 14 rebounds in 37 minutes and did his usual Camby stuff.
Andre Miller had 7 assists but shot 2-9, went iso in the third, and missed the final shots in regulation, finishing the game with 6 points.
Patty Mills had the best game off the bench, playing huge tracts in the fourth quarter and scoring repeatedly. He went 5-10 for 13 points with 2 assists. He looked fearless against the Heat, a crowd- and confidence-inspiring trait. He ended up hitting only 1-5 from distance.
Rudy Fernandez drew 6 foul shots in 18 minutes as he tried to get aggressive. He didn't get to handle the ball enough and didn't poke away enough steals to make this a truly Rudy-esque game, though he obviously had the spirit. He finished with 8 points and 3 rebounds.
Dante Cunningham went 1-4 with a steal and 2 points in 14 minutes.
Joel Przybilla played 9 minutes and got a rebound, a turnover, a foul, and 2 points charged to his credit.
Stats of the Night
- Blazers 5-24 from distance. One hit changes the outcome of the game. This was not supposed to be a Portland weakness this year.
- Heat 23 fast break points, way more than Portland usually allows.
- Miami shoots 57% in a game they could have lost.
- (sigh) LBJ 17-26 for 44 points, 13 rebounds, 6 assists. Dwyane Wade 15-22 for 34, 8, and 5
Odd Notes and Links
It used to be that non-American players were typified as soft and poor defensively. This game was an argument for the stereotype to change to "Not intimidated by anyone they play." Batum, Mills, and Fernandez had no respect for Miami's status and played this game loosely and for the most part well.
Also, no need to be heartbroken about this game. The Blazers played basketball as well as we've seen all season. It was, for the most part, a beautiful sight.
Here lies your boxscore.
See the story of yet another team vanquished in overtime at Peninsula is Mightier.
Your Jersey Contest Scoreboard and the form for the next game.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Tonight was probably the best we've played all year and we lost
So I’m not at all upset about this, LeBron had to play his best game of the year to beat us.
Oh and Batum’s chasedown block of LeBron and Dante’s hard foul of him were awesome. That and the RG was electric.
Two cool photos via the Blazers:
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
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Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
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by TheOdenator52 on Jan 10, 2011 12:35 AM PST up reply actions
I was going to post the exact same thing
Nothing to be ashamed of with this loss…Lebron went Nova at the end. I’m still in awe, honestly
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LeBronface is always good stuff.
GREAT game from the Blazers tonight. I want them to play like that all year win or lose.
Blazers fan since '91
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by rise_stand_resist on Jan 9, 2011 11:12 PM PST reply actions
We play like that most games
We win almost all the time.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
LMA playing like he has finally realized what a beast he can be.
Think if we got a win tonight that would have got him some extra attention for the allstar game.
Cant wait to see him matched up with Amare.
I love millers ability to get to a basket in a pick and roll but I almost wish we had patty in there to spread the floor and give LMA a chance to win the game on that last possession.
I thought the same thing...
Why pull Patty for the last possession when he’s warmed up and been hitting for a cold ‘Dre who’s not known for this shooting? Patty was going all Earl Boykins on them!
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IIbdII
agree...weird rotation at the end of regulation and in OT
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 9, 2011 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
yeah miami was loving giving miller the last shot of the game.
Plus miller and mills were kinda getting the leash treatment late from Nate.
He said in the pregame interview that he rides the hot hand, Mills hand was pretty damn hot that quarter.
He said in the pregame interview that he rides the hot hand, Mills hand was pretty damn hot that quarter.
Wow. Really?
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
really about him saying he rides the hot hand?
by tevisthe4th on Jan 10, 2011 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
yeah they were asking if he kept going to wesley the previous game cause he was hot
and he said yeah, they wanna ride the hot hand…
by tevisthe4th on Jan 10, 2011 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
read that Batum was pulled from the game and this is when Lebron went on his tear..
didn’t notice this but if it’s true..which I imagine it is..Sophia Brogata from Bustabucket, wrote this…then WHY???!!!!
If Patty had stayed in and turned it over to the pressure you’d be asking for Dre’s steady hand. Patty had been trapped several times during the game by Miami and there wasn’t enough time for him to create. There was the pick and pop, which was covered and a prayer by Dre. Dre can make that 18 foot shot, he just missed this one.
"You're standing in my sunlight, please move." —Diogenes to Alexander the Great
Miller can make the 18-foot J
he just does it less effectively than any other rotation player on the team. Well, except maybe Camby, and surprisingly – Cunningham. Oh, and Babbitt. Prz hasn’t taken a long range shot this year, so he doesn’t count.
But – the moral of the story is that you would want any other player on the team taking that shot except Miller.
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 10, 2011 1:32 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it was a ridiculous play call.
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
hmmm....
Patty had been trapped several times during the game by Miami and there wasn’t enough time for him to create.
There was just over 24 seconds left on the shot clock at the end of regulation which is plenty of time for him to create. Patty had also broke free several times for open jumpers and the lob layup from LMA so the trap was hit-or-miss. I was perfectly fine leaving Patty out there. I read the scouting report. Miami has a tough time containing the fast little PGs. Just ask Boykins.
If Nate was going to sub for Patty in the 4th, he should have done it earlier to let ’Dre get warm again and get a feel for the game again.
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LaMarcus has really turned the corner...
He ony LaMarcused one free throw tonight, and promptly afterwards got mad at himself and dropped the second. He wasn’t in foul trouble all night, and he played good defense on top of the ridiculous offensive game he had.
Its becoming more and more obvious how big of a travesty it will be if he is left off of the All-Star team… Shoot, if he keeps this pace up, I’ll be pushing for him to win Most Improved too. He entirely reinvented his game, and is carrying a team that he should have been a 3rd option on. As far as I’m concerned, that’s Most Improved worthy…
Greg Oden is like the Leaning Tower of Pisa; it wouldn't be special if it was perfect.
LMA is obviously the star of the evening, and looks like a beast right now
but Patty Mills is starting to win me over. He’s never going to be a great individual defender (though his team defense has been better), but he is a blur on offense, and while Dre is clearly the better player overall, having a PG who can shoot is nice.
Kevin Durant won me over when he went Rocky IV on Russia this summer.
I continue to be impressed with Patty...
He has a high level of confidence about him for a second year player. Love the fact that he can catch-and-shoot, shoot off the dribble, and still has a decent handle with some blazing speed. He’s not a great passer in terms of threading the ball but doesn’t miss the open guy very often.
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Interesting dynamic developing in the matter of Miller's minutes vs use of Mills
It’s hard not to wonder if Andre may be unhappy about spending so much time on the bench in the 4th quarter some of these games
ignacio
Joe Freeman has an article about Andre not being happy about it
not so much at Patty, who he praises, but more for not being given a reason as to why he is loosing minutes
Its amazing really, Mills was up the river without a paddle pre season, gone for all money, now he works his way into the rotation, and its taking minutes off the starter
Vegimitey Mouse – Heart of Lion, he is playing for the jersey, which is what I like the most I think
if he needs and explanation, he shoud walk through Nate's "open door"
and ask for one. And Nate can tell him. Great to have a good back up point.
There are reasons both ways, and coach has to make a call. Seems like Nate is doing fine to me.
If Oden does not give up on the Blazers, we should not give up on him.
by Berkeley on Jan 10, 2011 12:46 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Loved LMA in this game but I dunno about Patty. He dribbles too much and is a defensive liability.
long live the jd.
Yeah, plus his handle seems a little shaky.
I might like him more than Blake, but he shouldn’t be getting minutes over Miller. Unless of course, they know Miller is going to be traded soon…
by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 10, 2011 12:57 AM PST up reply actions
Mills is WAY more fun to watch than Blake...
and he will get better hopefully with more play.
I love Miller. Wish he was “in the flow” of the game when he was expected to make that shot.
Patty Mills on-ball defense was atrocious, for sure.
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
actually his defense on Arroyo was good
It was when the switch landed him on James that it wasnt so good. But if your expecting Mills to shut down James, then your bias has turned mental
There's nothing inherently wrong with Patty's defense
Aside from his height, but that’s hardly a dagger, the problem is Patty in Nate’s scheme. On essentially every play down the stretch the Heat were running 3-1 or 2-1 P&R’s with Lebron/Wade and Arroyo, and because we switch on nearly every screen when a player is even momentarily detained by it, Patty was repeatedly switched onto Lebron/Wade. Obviously Miller isn’t going to stop those guys in that situation, but he’ll at least be able to acquit himself okay, Patty just has no chance.
Going back and watching, both Lebron’s threes and Wade’s layup came after getting Patty switched onto them. The only basket down the stretch in regulation that Patty wasn’t involved with was Lebron’s tough layup over Nic in traffic. Easily the hardest shot he had to make there.
So yeah, Patty’s limitations can be covered, but that’s not what we’re doing defensively. If anything, we’re going out of our way to put them front and center
I wasn't trying to make a case the Patty > 'Dre...
I’d never say that, ever. I’m just pleasantly surprised at what he has shown. My expectations were very low at best and he has surpassed them by a very long ways…Playing crunch time against the Meat in a close game? I’da never thunk it!
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Yeah, the SOS pressure defense exposes Patty Mills by putting him into mismatches.
Once again, it’s on the defensive end where Nate McMillan shows his most glaring flaw as a head coach. By using a switch-heavy scheme to defend against the pick-and-roll, it’s clear to me that the Trail Blazers will never be more than average at best on that end of the court.
This team must hire a coach who’ll instruct the players to play straightforward man-to-man defense, with perimeter players fighting through screens and post players staying at home — while occasionally hedging up top to show before quickly rotating back inside — as that’s how to play proper defense schematically at this level.
Well, on that note, let me once again lend my support to Mike Fratello, who I feel would be an outstanding hire as this team’s next head coach.
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
I'd be down with that.
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
So did a lot of people.
I can remember many folks asking for the Blazers to make a major trade to get a Bosh or a Stoudamire. LMA is quickly entering the elite level of power forwards. At least last night, he was significantly better than Bosh.
Even remember a “we’d be better off with DeJuan Blair”.
I think somebody should start “An apology to LMA” thread and everyone who has doubted LMA in the past should post their apology. Could be a long thread.
All it took was a BIG MAN'S COACH...and LMA getting more lower body strength.
Think his exponential improvement has been due to Roy no longer being the number one option.
So did I. So did a lot of people. There was plenty of reason not to expect him to suddenly become a new player in the middle of his 5th year. He’s 13 games into proving he can. Kudos to him for that.
No need to hate on Canzano for possibly being wrong about him (still need to see it for a longer period, but it def. looks like he’s turned a corner).
long live the jd.
Have you ever seen a transformation like that?
Gasol sort of did something similar when he went to the Lakers, but jeez, I can’t remember the last time a player completely switched styles that late in his career.
by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 10, 2011 12:59 AM PST up reply actions
consideration for scheme must be given
LMA is a good soldier – but it’s hard to develop your inside game when the team wants you to be a stretch 4, rather than a power 4.
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 10, 2011 1:01 AM PST up reply actions
The coaches have been yelling, literally yelling, for LMA to establish deep post position for years.
He wasn’t comfortable inside for some reason, but I’ve seen the coaches standing up, screaming at him to get down low and he just wouldn’t do it.
by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 10, 2011 1:11 AM PST up reply actions
I don't buy this argument
the Blazers run set plays. Any player that refuses to execute wouldn’t play.
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 10, 2011 1:13 AM PST up reply actions
What's the set play?
They throw the ball to Aldridge down low and then Nate wants him to wait for the double to come before dribbling out and passing off?
I have seen it. I have read it. I have heard it from their own mouths. The coaching staff has been begging and pleading for Aldridge to establish deep post position since he was a rookie.
by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 10, 2011 1:18 AM PST up reply actions
for this argument to hold up
it would mean that the Blazer coaching staff was completely unable to get a key player to do what they wanted – for years. Yet somehow, they let him continue to play and never traded him, despite said player’s stubbornness and uncoachability.
Under this scenario, we have both a player and a staff failing completely with no consequences whatsoever.
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 10, 2011 1:23 AM PST up reply actions
it would mean that the Blazer coaching staff was completely unable to get a key player to do what they wanted – for years. Yet somehow, they let him continue to play and never traded him, despite said player’s stubbornness and uncoachability.
Uh, yeah, that’s what it would mean.
by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 10, 2011 1:24 AM PST up reply actions
bogus
if this was true there would have been either a player or staff held accountable.
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 10, 2011 1:26 AM PST up reply actions
I guess the Oregonian has been printing lies.
The Blazers big men, McMillan huffed, had played soft the night before in an exhibition loss to Denver. There were too many fade away jumpers, and not enough initiative to get to the basket. And defensively, the basket was too often left unprotected.
“Coach challenged us and gave us all things to do,” said Aldridge… “He told me I need to get to the free throw line”
McMillan said. “And we did a nice job of executing tonight. It’s what we wanted to see, more aggressive play from (the big men). I saw them grit their teeth tonight.”-Oregonian, 2007
I could find it, but there was an article a few years ago where Aldridge flat out stated that the coaching staff yells at him from the bench to “get deep” (or something along those lines) and NOT settle for jump shots. You can only blame the coaching staff so much. No one was telling Aldridge to play soft.
I would love to see you produce a quote where Nate (or Monty) say they want Aldridge to keep his game out on the perimeter.
by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 10, 2011 1:35 AM PST up reply actions
i won't be able to respond to this until this evening - but in the meanwhile we can ponder three words
Pick and pop
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 10, 2011 6:35 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
that article doesn't prove your point - at all
Nate’s comments were in context of the previous game – and in that article – the praise was all about how all the Blazer bigs were able to play inside better than the last game – not some wailing and gnashing of teeth about Aldridge unable to play inside.
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 10, 2011 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
You might be right.
Just produce a quote where Nate says he wants LMA to focus on the 18 foot jumper and I’ll admit I’m mistaken.
by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 11, 2011 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
Usually, McMillan would constantly remind Aldridge to establish an inside presence instead of relying solely on his 18-foot jumper.
“The last couple of games, I’ve just let him play as opposed to harping about pounding the ball inside,” McMillan said.-Oregonian, 2009
by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 10, 2011 1:39 AM PST up reply actions
It also seems like he just figured out how to handle double teams better.
by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 10, 2011 1:59 AM PST up reply actions
don't forget Bayno's pad work with LMA, this summer
following the lower-body work Aldridge did with the NFL strength coach
there’s an old term known as “the nickel dropped” that applies to LMA, this fall. Once Oden was out of the picture indefinitely, the coaches called upon Aldridge to be the man, and after 4+ years in the NBA he was finally ready to beast.
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
how about other parts of that article
McMillan has long held the belief that because of Aldridge’s unique blend of height (6-foot-11), length and speed, he can be an All-Star, one of the few players who impacts the game on both ends.
Aldridge, 23, has yet to dominate on both ends and has yet to make an All-Star team. But he is starting to change from an average defender to a good defender, while maintaining his reputation as one of the most gifted and versatile young big men in the league.
This season, he is tied with Joel Przybilla for the team lead in blocked shots (42) and is tied with Brandon Roy for second on the team in steals (39). And during stretches when the Blazers have lost starters Roy and Steve Blake to injuries, Aldridge has emerged as the team’s anchor, averaging 18.6 points in December and 19.2 points through January’s first nine games.
The question is, has anyone outside of Portland noticed?
or…
“The last couple of games, I’ve just let him play as opposed to harping about pounding the ball inside,” McMillan said.
As a result, Aldridge has gone back to his bread-and-butter, shooting the mid-range jumper out of the pick-and-pop. He is shooting 57.4 percent (27 of 47) in his last three games, most of his baskets coming on his trademark high-release jumper.
Now, McMillan would like to see that consistency on the defensive end. He said Aldridge has expanded his defensive repertoire this year to include guarding big centers like Shaquille O’Neal and Yao Ming.
That article was all about McMillan coaching up Aldridge’s defense, and about how Aldridge was emerging into a two-way force.
Again – it does not substantiate the idea that Aldridge was uncoachable. In point of fact, it does just the opposite.
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 10, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
I think I might be confused by your argument.
The first block quote is about how Nate wants him to play defense and run the floor. That has nothing to do with the 18 foot jumper
"The last couple of games, I’ve just let him play as opposed to harping about pounding the ball inside," McMillan said.
So for two games Nate stopped “harping about pounding the ball inside”? Yeah… that’s the whole point. It was notable news that Nate had STOPPED harping on LMA to play inside, which means he was harping on LMA to play inside before then. Are you arguing that LMA’s game was shaped by two games in 2009 in which Nate didn’t yell at him for not pounding the ball inside? I don’t get it.
Usually, McMillan would constantly remind Aldridge to establish an inside presence instead of relying solely on his 18-foot jumper.
And then the last little part is about defense. Which again has nothing to do with the 18 foot jumper.
I just don’t understand what your trying to say. Seriously, I’m not being sarcastic, I just thought your argument was that Nate wanted LMA to shoot 18 foot jumpers all the time and all his struggles were do to coaching, right? Maybe I’m misunderstanding.
I wasn’t talking about defense, so I don’t really understand how the quotes about defense and running the floor are relevant to the pick and pop or whatever.
by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 11, 2011 12:21 AM PST up reply actions
my argument was simply that LMA couldn't be characterized as uncoachable and unwilling to go inside
there is no evidence to support that position. As far as Aldridge’s predilection for shooting outside – I have made the argument that this tendency was part of the team’s development plan as evidenced by the prevalence of the pick and pop play call.
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 12, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
One of the set plays is screening LMA off the weak side so he can come across the lane a set deep position.
Watch for it. Most of the time, they are relying on LMA to beat his guy to the spot though.
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I did as well. People didn't expect LaSofty to turn into LaStud all the sudden in the middle of his career.
I hate Canzano for different reasons, not because he demanded an Aldridge trade.
The cake was a lie.
There is plenty of precedence out there
I am not sure why it is such a surprise.
Not only that, but Roy does not pass to post players in the post, LMA had to play outside to get touches in Roy’s offense.
That is why the criticism by fans and professional observers like Canzano (I am less forgiving for the professional observers) of LaMarcus always seemed so unfair to us defenders of LMA.
I posted a fanpost last year at some point documenting that Roy only passed to a roller 5% of the time on the pick and roll while Roy hit the popper in the pick and pop 30% of the time (shot or passed out of the remainder of the time). Given this basic fact of a Roy dominated offense it is not surprising a big that can hit that outside shot played the pop so much. He unfairly got tagged as soft as a result. He posted a solid 18-8 consistently given the limited roll he played as a big in Roy’s style of play which is strong for anybody. Look at Bosh’s numbers this season playing alongside ball dominant players like Wade and James. Is Bosh soft? Is he shooting a lot of outside shots now?
Aldrdige was what he was because his inside game would have been ignored with Roy on the floor, like Bosh’s is now.
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
to be fair
the Aldridge transformation started this season with Roy in the lineup. Roy’s untimely absence fuels correlation between LMA’s emergence and Roy being out – but although the recent run started in Roy’s last game – it was only a matter of time before LMA’s production began to reflect his commitment to transforming his game.
Back in October – LMA’s results catching up to his methods was predictable…
hopefully, what we are seeing from LMA is the chaos before the calm
we will know things are going to turn out all right if he is stubborn in working close to the basket. Stick with it for a month or two and he might turn out to be a dominant PF…
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Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Jan 10, 2011 12:58 AM PST up reply actions
Plenty is a bit strong of a word, I think.
There might be few cases, but I can’t really think of a case where there is such a change in the level of play in someone’s fifth season. The biggest improvement tend to come in second and third season of a player’s career. The only recent example of a noticeable improvement on a player’s fifth year that I can think of it Dirk Nowitzki, and his jump is much smaller in comparison to Aldridge. Most of the time, what u see is what u get after players’ third year.
I’ve also hinted previously impact of Roy’s absence in Aldridge. To be fair, no one thought Roy’s ball dominance and ISO plays had a hand in limiting Aldridge on offense. Are we a better team without healthy Roy? Of course not. But., it is still rather surprising.
At this point, I think it’s more mental than anything with Aldridge’s improvement. My issues with him being soft had more to do with defensive rebounding, as while some argue that Aldridge always played with good defensive rebounders, his DReb % was still mediocre when he was playing the 5 position with injuries to Greg and Joel last year. Perhaps he got locked into a second banana mentality because Roy’s grip on the team was so strong. Now, he might be breaking away from it the mindset because he sees himself clearly as the best player. But, this is all speculation and rather small subset of games to determine.
Lastly, Bosh always shot a lot of jumpers even Toronto. Bosh’s a face-up 4 that likes to operate in the 18-20’ range. Aldridge is a back to the basket and pick and pop guy (at least until last season). There’s really no change in terms of Bosh’s game. The change is # of touches and level of importance on offense. In comparison, LA’s game clearly evolved.
The cake was a lie.
I dunno, Bosh is definitely playing much differently
than he has in previous years, beyond just getting fewer touches. Last year, 54% of his shots were “jumpers”, this year, it’s 75%. He’s also drawing fouls at a much lower rate, shooting nearly half as many FT’s per minute, even at a lower usage, which still isn’t crazy low this year, that’s pretty significant.
While he still liked to operate in that mid-range, in previous years he was much more agressive about putting the ball on the floor and drawing fouls at the rim (which was always the main advantage he had over LA) whereas now, he’s basically just shooting jumpers.
From what I’ve seen over the past couple years, they’ve basically become each other when in similar situations. I’d say Bosh still has the advantage given that he’s proven to be able to do it for multiple years instead of a quarter of a season, but I don’t think you can really say there’s much of a gap between them right now (which is shocking for me to say).
Sure, there was no question that he'd had to adjust his game.
As his offensive priority on the team shifts from #1 to #3. Before, he had to create a lot of shots while now, he is playing off of LBJ and Wade. Based on such, he’ll have to shoot more outside shots.
Still, Bosh is a same player in regards to skillset, it’s just that his role changed. With Aldridge, his skillset definitely expanded from last year. While the sample size is still small, it does appear that Aldridge’s skillset is superior to Bosh at this point…at least to me.
The cake was a lie.
for a dozen games, LMA has excelled
Let us hope that the new and improved LMA is here to stay. But the previously soft play of our #2 draft pick absolutely deserved criticism from the fans and commentators. Physically gifted athletes who do not live up to their potential should not be coddled. I can’t fault Canzano for wanting our team to rid itself of an underachieving asset. Until recently, LMA has utterly failed to achieve his potential.
Win the day!
This is patently untrue .....or extremely exaggerated at bare minimum
Until recently, LMA has utterly failed to achieve his potential.
Even before his recent beasting, he was producing at 18/8 clip for his entire career…..that is not utterly failing…..that is moderately underachieving, at worst.
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by 92wastheyear on Jan 10, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
I just finished watched a recording of the game...
If losing the late 4th quarter lead wasn’t already bad enough, watching Lamarcus have some sort of spastic involuntary body spasm which then caused him to travel with the ball, that about did me in.
Watching Lebron James is utterly repulsive. I’m starting to like Kobe on some level even. Do we really have to put up with “The King” for an entire generation of basketball? How long before his ego pulls a Tiger Woods?
He was going to pass it up
but LeBalding James cut the pass off and LaMarcus saved the instant steal then basket with a turnover instead.
Enjoy the Ride
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by DigitalDaggers on Jan 9, 2011 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
Lamarcus started to pass to Nic, but Nic turned his head to run upcourt
so LMA tried to stop the outlet pass but it was too late. Ordinarily you give it to the PG, but Andre for some reason was nowhere near
ignacio
I completely blamed Miller
for that TO. I was at the game, and yelled my voice horse at that moment. The blazers were down 4, with about 30-45 seconds left, enough time to score, then hold and try and score again. But miller, the PG ran away from the ball, leaving LMA to try and bring it up. I think part of that has to do with Nate putting him on ice for most of the 4th as well, because once Miller came back in, it was like he forgot how to play basketball.
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Totally Agree
I had to watch it again on the DVR to figure out where Andre was. As soon as we got the rebound, Andre turned and ran up the court (bench side). He should have been coming back to the ball and calling for it. I know Nate has been calling for the Blazers to pick up the tempo, but I do believe he would prefer to have his PG leading that charge with the likes of Nick and Wesley filling the lane, instead of leaving your power forward without an outlet.
Why exactly are all of our ball handlers runnig away from LMA and Camby in that situation is the real question
besides, LBJ’s example as a star player with his double dribbling down the floor with no call might have motivated Aldridge there (OK that is just my frustration)
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My LeBron hate is getting to the point where I don't even watch the Heat except Sportscenter
The preening, the ego, honestly his personality viscerally repulses me – it’s like being in a room with a really creepy dude and you feel slimy until you get away from him. Stern had an interview recently where Jason Whitlock asked if it’s good for the NBA that their best player has the Q rating of Dick Fuld, and Stern basically said that the hatred is temporary and will morph into a general dislike of a great team/player (e.g. the Yankees). I disagree – LeBron and his act strike a nerve with a lot of people imo, and it’s too the point where I have little interest in spending discretionary time/income to watch him, which is not good for the league if there’s a significant amount of people who take that view
Kevin Durant won me over when he went Rocky IV on Russia this summer.
by blazeraddict on Jan 9, 2011 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
LeBron is replacing Kobe....
as the ’man we love to hate!" The only difference is, Kobe has rings, which gains him more respect (and rightfully so).
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To me, LeBron is worse
Kobe is a jerk, but like you said, you can respect his game/desire to win in spite of that. LeBron is so over the top though, with the Decision, reveling in his superteam rather than being the alpha dog, the $50,000 sponsorships for his birthday, advocating contraction – it’s a shame because he’s a great player, but I just can’t stand watching him because of all the other crap.
Kevin Durant won me over when he went Rocky IV on Russia this summer.
by blazeraddict on Jan 9, 2011 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
Kobe was a jerk. He doesn’t seem that bad anymore.
by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 10, 2011 1:00 AM PST up reply actions
all of the whining and complaining
he has immense talent, is given wide berth by the league and its officials, is allowed to get away with things other players get routinely called for and he still spends most of any deadball situation whining. That is the biggest reason I hate on LeBron.
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I flipped last year in a confession to timbo.
Most hated:
1) Cavs (because Lebron was on their team), now Heat.
2) Celtics.
At this point I almost pity the Lakers, who can only win by the degree that others suck. I think these last few years (Celtics/Lakers) have seen some of the weakest championship teams of all time. Not nearly as good as the Duncan/Shaq years or the Hakeem/MJ years that represent most of my NBA life.
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this...
One hit changes the outcome of the game
should also include this:
You gotta make your free throws
cuz one more in regulation changes the outcome of the game…
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IIbdII
in theory
if the Heat had been down by three (instead of just 2) with 25+ seconds to go, their last possession in regulation would have planned differently
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right
the dynamic changes in any game depending on circumstances….
That is why it is always hard to blame that last thing or argue if we just did that, because had we done that it would have changed what the other team did….
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Can someone explain to me how the Heat were able to advance the ball in halftime after he had dribbled?
The ball was knocked out of bounds by Matthews but the Heat had already tried to go up court. I thought if they had dribbled after a rebound and a timeout it called then they cannot advance the ball to midcourt and the Heat only had 2 seconds to get over the halfcourt line.
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
I meant * Overtime
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
by TheOdenator52 on Jan 9, 2011 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
Mike and Mike didn't know why that happened either. At the game we were looking forward to the Blazers stopping
them for a turnover. Never happened. Don’t know why they were able to advance the ball.
Don't know if this is current but found on website explaining NBA rules...
If a regular or mandatory timeout is awarded the offensive team during the last two minutes of regulation play or overtime and (1) the ball is out of bounds in the backcourt, or (2) after securing the ball from a rebound and prior to any advance of the ball, or (3) after securing the ball from a change of possession and prior to any advance of the ball, the timeout shall be granted. Upon resumption of play, they shall have the option of putting the ball into play at the midcourt line, with the ball having to be passed into the frontcourt, or at the designated spot out-of-bounds. However, once the ball is (1) thrown in from out-of-bounds, or (2) dribbled or passed after receiving it from a rebound or a change of possession, the timeout shall be granted, and, upon resumption of play, the ball shall be in-bounded at the spot nearest where the ball was when the timeout was called. The time on the game clock and the 24-second clock shall remain as when the timeout was called. In order for the option to be available under the conditions in paragraph 2 above, the offensive team must call a 20-second timeout followed by a regular timeout, or call two successive regular timeouts.
Did the Heat call a second time out in order to advance the ball? If not, they should not have been able to advance it. I obviously could be missing something but it seems the refs did.
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No they did not,,,They called 1 timeout and there was no mandatory timeout
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
by TheOdenator52 on Jan 10, 2011 12:42 AM PST up reply actions
I was wondering that too
Seemed strange.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
They should not have been allowed to forward the ball and inbounded where Matthews
Knocked it out at and had 2 seconds to get it across court. Was at the game and saw no one question why they were able after that timeout to inbound over the half court line.
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
by TheOdenator52 on Jan 10, 2011 12:44 AM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure it satisfied situation 1 in your first sentence
I could be wrong, but hadn’t Wes just knocked the ball out of bounds from Wade instead of them just calling a timeout to take it out of bounds? Thus, the ball was out of bounds in the back court and they would have the option of advancing the ball.
If they had just called timeout instead of Wes knocking the ball out of bounds, they should have had to inbound from the closest point out of bounds because they had tried to advance the ball. Kind of an archaic, specific rule, but seems like they got it right by the letter of the law posted above (unless back court technically means under the basket in their rule book or something).
I think yoiu are right
letter of the law sort of thing. Reading requirement tells me that their intent was different but the way it is written indicates otherwise. Basically penalizing the Blazers for a good play there. I think it was the right call as the rule is written though.
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I was wondering that same thing.
How often to items like this get brought up to the NBA?
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
* Overtime
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
LaAllstar
From the team:
Elias also finds LA is first NBA player w/ five straight games of 25 points & 10 rebounds since Shaq in 2005.
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by skywaker9 on Jan 9, 2011 11:32 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
That cant be right
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
by TheOdenator52 on Jan 9, 2011 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
Or Zbo
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
by TheOdenator52 on Jan 10, 2011 12:17 AM PST up reply actions
sick
but zbo’s making a run as well.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3531/gamelog;_ylt=AncfxgDIrXQQsW9XWwob012bPKB4
PHILLY!
We saw a few new moves on offense out of Batum tonight
Some mid-range jumpers and so on. Hope this continues.
ignacio
It reminded me a lot of old Roy
SIgh.
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Loved that he wasn't just settling for jumpers...
and was getting stuff going to the basket. That finger roll over Ilgauskas was sweet!
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Can't shake the feeling that this game was LMA's chance at the ASG.
Of course he deserves it from my perspective. I would be hard pressed to find a better PF in the West as of sitting Brandon Roy. Only Nowitski is better at this level.
But I’m worried that losing this game meant losing the AS bid. He’ll need every statement game he can get.
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Don't understand this
I get that he would get more attention but he had to earn a couple coaches’ votes with that performance. He isn’t going to win the fan vote unless he plays for a team with a bigger market or on a team with a Chinese player, but he has to be earning coaches votes over the course of this season. He has really been playing like this since the beginning of the season. It just took some time for him to get his shot to go down consistently and for him to gain some respect from the officials and get to the foul line. His energy and effort has been there all season and I would think coaches would reward his play for a playoff team over guys who are excelling on bottom feeders.
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how hard would it be
to list LMA as the center and Camby as the PF? As a 5 LMA has an easier path to the AS roster. Marcus isn’t playing “center” (the pivot) in Portland’s offense, and Camby was defending Bosh last night
A simple reversal in these two player’s designations should be all that’s necessary. I’d argue that LMA has been the de facto center in Portland’s lineup since Greg/Joel went down 12+ months ago, even after Camby was acquired. Why not just make it official?
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I wish LMA had had more help tonight
It kills me that most of the team’s offense completely disappears in either tough or random games. Me-thinks our outside shooters aren’t real outside shooters at this point. They’re streak shooters.
That LMA can still dominate the paint with no-one to really spread the defense is kind of crazy in itself. We need at least two consistent perimeter threats that shoot 33%+ each game…not 0% then 55% then 10% etc etc.
Once we have guys that make the other team pay for keying in on LMA he’ll have a heyday and not have to work so hard. We’ll also be much more dangerous closing out games.
Batum helped.
Rudy & Patty helped when they got minutes.
Camby did what he does…
I think Wesley is the only guy to dump on, really.
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Not really.
You know that if he shoots those with 20 left in the shot clock he is going out of the game next dead ball.
Yeah, I don't want to "dump on" him, but, as he probably feels worst about
he had an “off” night. Hopfully his consistency will improve. The rest of the guys had a more or less good game.
LMA and Batum definitely in the more category.
If Oden does not give up on the Blazers, we should not give up on him.
The Blazers had the ball for the last 24 seconds of a tied game. They inserted Andre Miller for Patrick Mills and Rudy Fernandez for Marcus Camby,
dribbled down the clock, and then watched Miller miss a pair of mid-range jumpers, the second as the horn sounded.
I am a huge Miller fan, but when we started running that ISO I was not a happy camper, particularly when he has been stting on the bench for the entire 4th qtr before that. I also groaned when he took the last shot in the first.
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
Miller is now below 5% from 3, with that end of period shot
and is hitting outside shots with an eFG% of .406, while Mills is at .500.
Under normal circumstances, that was bad basketball to have Miller attempt an outside shot. Under these circumstances, with Miller having sat the entire quarter, it was deplorable player management.
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 10, 2011 1:05 AM PST up reply actions
I agree patty is stud, olympics ffs clutch! Hes
If he was.6 3 he would start.
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Trade for Gerald Wallace!!
by TyboOSU on Jan 10, 2011 7:31 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
if Mills was 6'3 he would have been drafted in the first round, back in 2009
along with Collison and the rest of the quality PGs in that class
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Actually, Post Olympics pre hand injury, Patty was projected lottery.
There was enough hype mid season that he had verbally committed to an agent sophomore year because he was nearly a lock as at worst a first round. The Gaels where a chance to go to the final 16, then he broke his wrist and their season went down the tube.
Nothing to do with his height.
I don't ever recall Patty Mills being a projected lottery pick.
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
Post Olympics, on Draftexpress and NBAdraft and ESPN Patty was between
8-12 in projections, prior to his injury.
Australian media were coving it heavily thinking he could do another Bogut had he had a good sophomore year.
Even in the week leading up to the draft DX had him going at pick 18 to the Hornets with the pick they ended up using on Collision.
Most mocks had him right up to the draft in the 20-30 range.
He slid MASSIVELY to end up at 55, and was unlucky to drop that far
http://dimemag.com/2009/06/nba-draft-09-stock-watch-patrick-mills/
that explains a lot of what went on
I do remember him being pegged as a mid to late first-rounder at times, but I've ...
got to admit I’m a bit shocked to learn he apparently had some lotto buzz at one point.
Then again, D.J. Augustin was the 9th pick in the 2008 NBA Draft; therefore, it makes sense how a fellow undersized waterbug, Patty Mills, would get media attention a few months after that upon enterering his sophomore season at St. Mary’s.
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
especially when he lit up Team USA in the months between his freshman and sophomore years
you can not undersell that, he was offered 2 Million Euro to leave collage on the spot to go to Europe,
You have to remember, aside from hitting 20 against redeem, he jacked up 22 against Argentina, before that he was lighting up the ABA in Australia as a 16 year old. Imagine how small he was then!!!!!
I implore you AK to look past the couple of inches that he lacks, because you are missing a really good baller. If ever there was a kid who could buck the trend its this guy.
I guarantee you every area he needs to work on right now, he will, and it wont be an issue within a year. The strength of his character is that strong. He LOVES ball, he LOVES the Blazers.
Show him some love man.
Patty Mills could buck the trend on offense, for sure. Heck, there's a slim ...
possibility he’s a young Dana Barros in the eyes of Nate McMillan. Yet, even if Mills becomes what Barros was on offense for the Philadelphia 76ers midway through his career, he’ll nevertheless be a massive liability on defense. In the end, ultimately, it’s who Mills is defensively — which is poor — that makes me very, very wary of him over the long haul.
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
what if he is a young Tony Parker, not saying he is, but how would
any of us know for sure.
Wes went from undrafted to where he is now.
especially when he lit up Team USA in the months between his freshman and sophomore years
you can not undersell that, he was offered 2 Million Euro to leave collage on the spot to go to Europe,
You have to remember, aside from hitting 20 against redeem, he jacked up 22 against Argentina, before that he was lighting up the ABA in Australia as a 16 year old. Imagine how small he was then!!!!!
I implore you AK to look past the couple of inches that he lacks, because you are missing a really good baller. If ever there was a kid who could buck the trend its this guy.
I guarantee you every area he needs to work on right now, he will, and it wont be an issue within a year. The strength of his character is that strong. He LOVES ball, he LOVES the Blazers.
Show him some love man.
Also surprised at the end of the half ...
With 4 or 5 seconds to go, Andre dribbled the length of the court and took a 3 point shot. Seemed like he would have gone all the way to the rim, or kicked out to a teammate who shoots better than 5% from three.
Andre was just not Andre tonight when it counted.
when we started running that ISO I was not a happy camper, particularly when he has been stting on the bench for the entire 4th qtr before that
this^
Nate said that Miller was inserted for defensive purposes, but this was clearly not the case with 24 seconds to go. Since the play call was for Andre, McMillian should have inserted him earlier in the 4th quarter so he would be warmed up and more prepared to (potentially) take the last shot
This sequence reminded me of a previous game against OKC where Nate waited to insert Batum into the game until after Durant had made a couple of shots and was en fuego in the 4th quarter. These are the kind of “delayed” decisions that make us McMillian “haters” suggest that he is not a playoff-caliber head coach. The great coaches have a 6th sense re: how momentum is shifting in a game and don’t wait for the results to dictate their substitutions and/or change of strategy.
With perfect 20/20 hindsight (which is not true because I said the same thing while watching the game) Nate should have inserted Miller in the game with 2+ minutes to go and Portland leading by 7. Then the Blazer’s defense would have been better prepared to defend the PnR and Andre would have been “warmed up” and in the flow of the game to shoot (if necessary) in the final 10 seconds.
Haven’t I been warning everyone that small PGs are defensive liabilities against teams that know how to exploit size mismatches? Last night was just the most recent example. Nate should have known this and made the necessary adjustment before the horses escaped the barn door.
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Great game blazers!!
I’m super proud of our team right now. I know we didn’t win but we fought hard. I loved LMA’s beastly game. I love Batum’s block on LBJ. I loved Patty gettin it done in the 4th. If you have a second, take a look at miami’s blog, they really think their ish don’t stink don’t they? It’s like they played themselves and had an easy time beating, THEMSELVES. Can’t wait to see them fail in the playoffs.
It was the most fun I have had at a Blazers game in a while
A great showing.
These guys are fun to watch…We just need to put together a strong run the rest of the month!
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Ladies and Gentleman
No Roy or Oden
but.
I think we have a team. I dont think we will win the title, but they are great to watch
The united nations of trail blazing
These guys are a blast to watch
This is the most fun I have had a Blazer games for a while
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Playing as a team for each other
Aldridge
Matthews
Batum
Fernandez
Mills
Cunningham
Are good young players, who enjoy playing with one another, you cant underestimate that.
while underrated i cant help but feel if we still had a fit Pendy, we could do some things this season
Playing as a team for each other
Aldridge
Matthews
Batum
Fernandez
Mills
Cunningham
Are good young players, who enjoy playing with one another, you cant underestimate that.
while underrated i cant help but feel if we still had a fit Pendy, we could do some things this season
This emergence of Patty to displacing Miller in one of out biggest games is startling.
Just when I am getting uneasy, he hits another big shot. And, sometimes you gotta have scorrers.
Nate’s not holding Mills back, for sure.
If Oden does not give up on the Blazers, we should not give up on him.
It's going to lead to Miller getting traded.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they told Nate that Miller’s time on the team might not last long.
by Nick Van Excellent on Jan 10, 2011 1:09 AM PST up reply actions
Is it going to far to suggest that while he is by no means ready for a starting gig
that Mills would probably start scoring 20 a night as a starter
Mills actually starting would be a shock
but however he entered the game if he averaged 13 that would be incredible
ignacio
15ppg/5 assist with miller gone. Plus.aj.getting.a run
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by TyboOSU on Jan 10, 2011 7:35 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'll just go on the record right now and say
that if Mills/Johnson are the only PGs on Portland’s roster from the end of Feb until mid April that the Blazers will not be in the post season
What Patty’s done in the last month has been surprising and unpredictable— but let’s not kid ourselves—handing the team over to Mills and AJ would be a slow death by small paper cuts
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Agree, I think Patty development is assisted with the help of
and the presence of Dre
Yep
The evidence is that Dre is great working with the young guys and he seems very supportive of their game
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That is a reach
There is a difference between starting (teams main focus on the game plan is stopping what you do) versus coming off the bench.
Teams key their gameplans against the projected starters and prepare contigencies for bench guys. The thiinking probably goes that you have a better shot at winning disrupting the starting line up than you do focusing on the bench.
Would added focus on Mills as a starter hurt his production, probably.
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I can see nate's thoughts on it after reading his comments
Miller is a better defender than Patty, but as I was screaming at the game the entire 4th qtr and overtime, the Blazers were not going to stop James and Wade, they were hitting every shot they took, or getting Free throws from the refs. To win that game, the Blazers had to keep scoring. They had a 7 point lead, with about 1:30 left, and stop scoring, while James and Wade tied the game with quick shots at the other end, some of them were difficult, but they still went in. On a night when James, Wade, and Both had 90+% of thier teams points, and both Wade and James hitting for 50%+, we had to keep scoring, which is why I would have left Mills in the game, Miller hadn’t been doing much all game, while MIlls was having almost a career night.
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He certainly is fearless ....
which will lead to some exciting plays, and also some mistakes.
LaMarcus has been unreal over the last few weeks.
He played somewhere around the same number of games before and after THE SWITCH. If I recall correctly, he was around a 16.5 PER at the time… As he’s now at a 20.2 (which will go up after tonight), his PER since the switch is in the low to mid twenties, maybe a 23-24. That’s pretty remarkable. Not that PER’s the best measure, it’s just a way to look at him against himself.
Great game, but on the other hand...
AARRGGHH!
I can understand wanting to go with the veteran, but taking out a red-hot Patty Mills for the last play of regulation I can’t agree with. If Dre had been hitting his shots, it might make sense, but he was having an off night. It’s still surprising that he missed, but – go with the guy who’s getting it done!
My speculation was that Nate wasn't sure Mills could deal with the clock winding down
and/or if Miami suddenly trapped him — whereas Andre has been in that situation a million times. Putting him in cold might seem “cold” but Nate’s answer to that might be that he expected Andre to be a pro (and hopefully pass the ball)
ignacio
I'd bet one of my kidneys
that the play was not for Miller to shoot a jumper, but I’d credit Miami’s great defense for essentially closing all the passing lanes and forcing dre to make something happen. Had Patty been in I’m sure those last few seconds would have looked entirely different.
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old habits die hard
Roy and Outlaw are gone, but the ISOs remain, coming out of late-game timeouts
So does anyone wonder why (despite the recent offensive changes and 10-5 upsurge without Brandon) I still think a change in head coach is needed? It’s these meltdowns during pressure situations late in games that indicate how well a McMillian team will react in a playoff series. The team has played only 12 post season games with Nate at the helm so that’s a small sample size, but there are also key games during the season (OKC, Dallas, Miami) where the stakes are elevated and Portland’s coaching accumen doesn’t rise to meet the challenge
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Yeah they played a mostly great game...........
but then NATE had to many turnovers down the stretch! Again.
We must endeavor to persevere.
Id have liked to see less Matthews
he bricked everything he threw up there. And when you shoot 20 times, that hurts.
by collectiveshane on Jan 10, 2011 11:27 AM PST reply actions
Wesley was needed to defend Wade
Who would’ve you preferred replace Matthews? Rudy? Fernandez wasn’t exactly getting it done on the offensive end, either
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Wade dropped at least 15 points in the 1st quarter
that hardly reflects well on Wes. And probably Rudy as he only missed 2 shots all night and was getting to the line, unlike Wes who didn’t attempt a FT and missed 14 shots.
by collectiveshane on Jan 10, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Wesley Matthews is so, so overrated on the defensive end.
While I appreciate his effort, the dude is just way outmatched when it comes to length and speed.
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
I agree that he is a bit overrated
I wouldn’t go as far as to say way way overrated.
The point is that he has trouble with certain SGs like most people. Was his defense good enough to offset his bad offensive night,
I have to say it was not in that heat game.
Of course then you have to look at options?
Rudy couldn’t handle Wade either. Nic probably could, but then who goes on James?
Of course we may have been more effective playing Nic on Wade and Rudy on James (rudy is an annoying defender not a great defender, but annoying could produce good results against a prima donna type lke James). James woulda still got his, but Wade might have been slowed down enough to offset that…
Armon probably had the speed to keep up with Wade, but Wade would have shot a ton more foul shots and the blazers might have run into more turnovers with him in.
Babbit?
The Wade James combo is tough for any team to defend.
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
"The Wade James combo is tough for any team to defend."
This is true.
I see Ime Udoka is currently a free agent, but I expect him to re-sign with the Spurs to a ten-day contract in the near future.
Besides, Portland isn’t in a position to sign end of the bench role players for specific matchups.
Now, if the Trail Blazers were legitimate championship contenders, I’d actually like it if the team used its 15th roster spot on a tough, physical wing defender (e.g., Trenton Hassell) — who’d be activated strictly for games against Miami to mess with LeBron James — rather than an injured rookie (i.e., Elliot Williams).
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