Blazer Chatter: Joel Przybilla's Future
Here's your weekend-long thread for all Blazer conversations not covered in another post. You can discuss any Blazer-related subjects you wish here but we always start with a seed question. Today's: Does Joel Przybilla have any future with the Blazers beyond this season? If so, what do you foresee? If not, would you be willing to trade him before the deadline though that leaves the team centerless save for Sean Marks?
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Considering Camby is down
I think it’s unlikely Joel will be traded unless it’s a filler in a much larger trade to land us somebody really good. I just doubt it though.
Nicolas Batum is the future of the Blazers
Yes
Joel has an excellent chance to be a Blazer in the future, price willing. Until we know what is going to be up with Greg, then Joel should be a lock unless Cho has something up his sleeve. Legit bigs are a commodity and Joel is showing that he on his way back and is a Legit man in the middle for this team.
Go Blazers!
"price willing"
If he has expectations of starter money ($10M) or platoon-player money ($6-8M), it won’t be happening.
If he can deal with a role as a “3rd Center” (veteran’s minimum to $3M or so), I expect the Blazers will re-sign him.
Since they’re already on the hook for Camby’s salary and have declared their intention to bring back Oden, the budget for a 3rd Center won’t be much bigger than that…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
He's already said that he's saved up enough money
I think the real question could be “Does Joel Pryzbilla have a future in the NBA?” If he wants to play, I think he stays.
Portland could coast along with their superior talent and stay right with us. Now that Portland woke up, the hammer cometh down.
Bayless > Daffy Duck after 3 cans of rockstar
by Batumshakalaka on Jan 21, 2011 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
If he continues to improve,
and finds some semblance of his old self, then he should get a better offer from another team. He was a terrific backup center, a passable starter (plenty good enough on most nights, because there are so few great pivots in the association), and far too good to be a third center.
His picks, his rebounds, his size, his leadership, his willingness to sacrifice his body, he is a legitimate center, and I think that other coaches would love to have him.
I admit that he has a ways to go before he makes it back, though, some pretty ragged looks so far, but a couple of good ones too.
by damonrayhymer on Jan 22, 2011 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
it really depends on what his body is able to do!!
He says he is not 100% and wants to remain uninjured.
It seems like it would be really difficult to trust one’s knee after what happened!!!
So how much of what Joel has to do will be mental vs physical!!!
The guy is amazing as far as grit and determination go…still seems like it would be an uphill climb to not think about “what if I do this…and get injured again?”
Pimpzilla? Gotta rec that
"All is vanity and vexation of spirit."
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by Y5k on Jan 21, 2011 5:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I would not trade him
Our frontline is so thin, and there are so few solid centers out there, that I would sit down with Joel and offer a 1 or 2 year contract at a reasonable price until we know what’s up with Oden and whether he will be back or we have found a servicable replacement. I would keep Camby and Joel and hope that between them we have a full time center for most of the next year and a half while we figure out the Oden situation.
And Joel might take your offer,
but he might get a better one.
Then what do you do?
by damonrayhymer on Jan 21, 2011 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
Minimum wage guys
play like minimum wage guys.
We have one, and he does what he can, but that’s not much.
by damonrayhymer on Jan 22, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
I do see the Blazers extending some kind of offer to Przybilla. Once healthy, even with his limitations, he will again be a valuable backup. Playing at 70-80%, he’s still better than half of the backup 5s in this league. Maybe more. You can’t teach basketball IQ and Joel’s is sky high. That said, he can’t sustain another season-ending injury or I believe he will retire. Even if he signed an extension, I think if he re-injured himself such that it ended his year, he would just call it quits rather than rehab and come back again at his age. So, stay healthy Joel! We love ya man.
"You know, when you are in the game, you hear 20,000 people behind you, you don't feel anything."
- Nicolas Batum on playing through his shoulder injury during the 2010 playoffs.
I kind of think that might be in the cards anyway.
I’d bet if the Blazers don’t extend him, or the Bucks don’t make an offer, he’ll just retire.
What would you guys be willing to offer Joel?
Vets minimum? MLE? I just wanna see how much people think he’s worth/what’s realistic.
Nicolas Batum is the future of the Blazers
I would only trade him for another big
We don’t need any more guards or forwards. Armon and Babbit are both promising but never see the court, what’s the point in trading away our only legit center for more depth where we don’t need it?
I don't think there's a deal out there...
He’s too dinged… The attraction would simply be as a salary dump…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
especially as part of a package
but I think Camby gets traded and Prz stays. And – I think the assets the Blazers want to pick up are draft picks or someone like Randolph (versatile 4/5 big) or maybe a PG. I just don’t see a valid PGOTF trade target.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Jan 21, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
For this year, I think Camby and Joel stays for sure.
Camby can play the four if LMA gets hurt. If Greg is ready and comes back next year then we can make another decision. I would love to keep Joel, Camby and Greg; let Marks go.
hg
right...
A salary dump would mean some other team giving us a player with a big salary in exchange for Joel and his expiring contract. Not at all saying it should be Eddy Curry, but for the sake of the argument, there’s a salary dump that returns a center. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Donald Sterling is stupid enough to trade Kaman for it.
I wouldn't be surprised if he retired.
He’s made a lot of money and he’s 32 this year, and he’s been pretty banged up with a couple of incredibly serious injuries, and wasn’t he just talking about how he’s played way longer than he thought he would? And he’s not a guy who I see as wanting to cling to fame or anything, he’s had a solid eleven-year career. And I think he could leave knowing he gave everything he had while he was here.
I think it’s very possible he hangs ‘em up. That’s what I’d do.
"I take the little gummy bear Flintstones vitamins…I try not to eat the lady. I try not to eat the man. Just give me the car. I try to find the car. Yea, worst case scenario, I eat the lady." - Ron Artest, 2009
how could he resist picking up a few million for signing on for another year or 2?
chances are, this is the best money he will ever make; any NBA player has got to think long and hard about declining the crazy money they get
Win the day!
walking away from money happens
Gil Meche just walked away from $12M guaranteed at the age of 32 (MLB)
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Jan 21, 2011 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
Incredibly classy move on his part
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
yes, it happens
but wouldn’t you agree that it is rather rare for a player who could pick up a few more million to leave that money on the table, and just walk away from the game?
Win the day!
It just depends
Joel already left money on the table to re-sign with Portland once before. He’s loyal. I think he’ll probably be closer to his old form next season, and if that’s the case I’d keep him, if he want’s to play. That’s the $64,000 question. Is he going to want to play for a couple more years? I think it all depends on the moves Cho makes.
But I think Joel might be the kind of guy who would
He has said that he has saved up a lot of money, suggesting he knows that if he didn’t sign another contract, he could still live quite comfortably for the remainder of his life.
I think for guys like him, it is a question of how badly he wants the competition vs how badly does he want to spend time with his family and be able to walk without discomfort.
Sometimes quality of life means more than money.
Perhaps Joel feels that any more injuries could seriously impact his life after basketball. He might be thinking “what’s the point of limping around after basketball for couple million when I already have $X million saved up already?” That would be the type of thought process I would be having if I was a professional athlete and coming off major knee surgery.
The cake was a lie.
Don't think so myself
He also talked about how much he missed it when he wasn’t playing. Joel love the game, I don’t think he’ll walk away from it as long as he can still play.
I think any deal Portland makes at this point (Przybilla or otherwise) HAS to return a big. The best thing we could do is upgrade our PG/C rotation in one move, but I don’t see that happening yet. As we get closer to the deadline, I think some things will become available that we haven’t heard about yet. I think it’s possible that Cho makes a move, but I don’t see it being likely unless it’s a sweetheart of a deal.
too early to say
we really need to see how he looks playing out the rest of the year.
he’ll get offers to play somewhere next year – no doubt. if guys like Marks can find a job, Przy certainly can. whether his next 2-3 years are as a solid backup or a deep bench 3rd stringer depend largely on how much further he can recover from his injuries.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Prz has shown that he can still impact the game
he knows how to play around his offensive limitations – something not all poor-shooting bigs can do.
I think Przybilla’s future might hinge on how well the Blazers do without Camby over the next three weeks. If they are able to adjust like I think they can, Camby is one of the more valuable trade assets. If he is gone, Prz’s return is more likely.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
Groucho seems like more of a b-baller
Karl doesn’t like competition enough to play most sports.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
I love Joel as a person. He's a warrior.
but he’s a shell of what he was on the court. If he was the old Joel, I say keep him at almost any cost. But now, I’m not sure if he’s anything more than a 12th man. Th only reason we still play him Is because Camby, Oden, and Pendegraff are all out.
Use the eyes, not the box score...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
He's definitely not the same guy.
Has trouble getting to the rebounds and blocks that he’d normally get. You can clearly see the frustration from Joel.
The cake was a lie.
He's still rehabbing
He may never be the same guy, but most of what Joel brings to the table is his heart. THAT will always be there. He’s a savvy vet who’s never really been an above the rim guy. He’s on his way back and will be a solid contributor for a team next year. I’m hoping it’s for the blazers.
I went to the game on Thursday and watched Wednesday game on the net, Joel passed the eye test. As he gets more minutes and continues his rehab, his lateral motion will improve. His man on D was great as usual.
I’d give him the MLE if he contiues to get healthier.
People seem to be forgetting that Camby could be an excellent b/u for the PF position if both Oden and Joel are on the roster and healthy next year. Pendy is still to foul prone to warrant extended minutes as a backup, even if he comes back healthy next year.
I think this is an important point.
Would Pendergraph be getting Joel’s minutes if he’s were healthy? As Joel looks right now I’d have to say yes. If Joel can get moving and jumping better, then no. If Joel thinks he’ll be the 3rd or 4th center on next year’s team, he’ll probably find a better opportunity elsewhere.
by 52therim on Jan 22, 2011 9:16 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
i think we keep him
he’s a serviceable backup big. We get to benefit from the expiring contract which is big with brandon’s contract around our necks. And he has talked about retiring so the money’s not the biggest issue as far as what he needs. He should be fairly cheap, although not necessarily at the veteran’s minimum. But he’s a known quantity for whatever we pay him unless milwaukie makes an offer. He said he wants to retire as either a blazer or a buck. And he might be less valuable coming off double knee surgery than he was. More valuable as an expiring contract.
"travis just took the worst shot attempt i have ever seen [...] let me pause to explain this [...] travis pump fakes and dribbles to his left, gets in traffic left hand finger rolls the ball backwards over his own head, from like 14 feet out"--Ben in pre-season game 1 vs. SacKings
by bgblazer on Jan 21, 2011 6:53 PM PST via mobile reply actions
i think we keep him
he’s a serviceable backup big. We get to benefit from the expiring contract which is big with brandon’s contract around our necks. And he has talked about retiring so the money’s not the biggest issue as far as what he needs. He should be fairly cheap, although not necessarily at the veteran’s minimum. But he’s a known quantity for whatever we pay him unless milwaukie makes an offer. He said he wants to retire as either a blazer or a buck. And he might be less valuable coming off double knee surgery than he was. More valuable as an expiring contract.
"travis just took the worst shot attempt i have ever seen [...] let me pause to explain this [...] travis pump fakes and dribbles to his left, gets in traffic left hand finger rolls the ball backwards over his own head, from like 14 feet out"--Ben in pre-season game 1 vs. SacKings
by bgblazer on Jan 21, 2011 7:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions
He's a stud for making it this far.
Cho will deal him if it makes sense. How’s that for an answer?
wha??
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jan 21, 2011 7:17 PM PST via mobile reply actions
It's definitely time to part ways with Joel
It’s just time for a change, time for fresh legs and a newer, younger guy. I hope we do honor him for his contributions but I’d like him to be replaced for another big that has a little more all around game.
Let’s look at it this way.
He has a “C” next to his name. You following me? ..and he’s playing.
"You know, when you are in the game, you hear 20,000 people behind you, you don't feel anything."
- Nicolas Batum on playing through his shoulder injury during the 2010 playoffs.
he's a got a corner locker
Jeff Pendergraph:
FGM - 3
FGA - 111
Min - 30
Reb - 10
by Tofu Anonymous on Jan 21, 2011 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!
One on the court is better than two under the knife.
Stealth > Wealth
Off-topic
but just ran across one of those rare Batum blogs that is in French. I think someone around here at BE translates these, or parts of them, so thought I would pass it along. here’s the link: http://basketsession.com/blog-batum-aller-sur-le-banc-ca-ma-fait-retomber-sur-terre/
I put it through Google Translate. Rough read, but VERY interesting stuff about Kevin Love! And his frame of mind about being benched, and especially about how LMA is affecting the team beyond the stat line. Enjoy!
Go Blazers!
Totally on topic for the Blazer Chatter post.
Nice find!
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EowynAmarie:
Was nic saying the Love kept tapping the ball on the back board in order to get more rebounds? Nic said he misses on perpose, didn[t he?
Anyway I think I got the drift of him being pissed about being benched at first.
hg
Sorry HG
I was over at FV, arguing with some dimwit about consistency.
Yeah, what I got was that Nico thinks Love almost misses on purpose, trying to get the rebound. I think his impression is that Love stat pads. I have noticed that he gets a lot of rebounds easily in garbage time, and I think that might have been what he noticed. Idk, have to ask Nic. My French is not so good, lol!
Publicly, Nico was “cool” with losing his 5 job, but the blog makes it clear he wasn’t. Him and Nate talked though, and I think that says a lot about Nate.
I really, really liked what he had to say about Lamarcus in the locker room and stuff. Good read (rough though!)
Go Blazers!
by EowynAmarie on Jan 21, 2011 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Here's what I would do if I were Cho
Offer a no-trade clause, and 4 million a year for 4 years, last year being a team option. He’s been a great Trailblazer, might as well make him a blazer for life. Tell him he can retire when he wishes, until then he can earn a decent contract in the town where he made a name for himself. He can be the backup center for a few years at least, and we couldn’t ask for a better one. Get a legit PF/C 6th man type and adding Joel to the mix would make it a completely solid rotation with a real center healthy (Camby or Oden hopefully).
by avalancheman on Jan 21, 2011 9:02 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
That's about twice the time and twice the annual money that I would offer if I were Cho.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Centers don't come cheap
Even 32 year old centers with injury histories.
He is still a 7ft body with high BBIQ, fantastic attitude and a great locker room presence. His value is higher than his on-court production.
I do believe that 4 years is too long though given the injury history. I would offer 12m/3y with the 3rd being a team option.
For well below MLE money
I think hes a pretty good bargain, of course the new CBA will say something about it I am sure. I’m certainly negotiable on the years part, but for fully insured with a no-trade clause, I still think 4 mil a year is a good deal for Przy and I’d love to see him retire a Blazer. You could sign him for less and tie in the max signing bonus to add up to that amount… I realize its easy to give up PA’s money, but for what we’d get for that price, Joel is the best we could hope for, I honestly believe. 7ft centers do NOT come cheap, as you point out. For 7 foot centers, his injury history is not actually that horrific, and his ability to come back from these injuries, given their severity, is quite impressive. One more big one will force him to retire anyway, and I’m sure he’d be happy with a buyout in that case. Show him we want him, for everything he brings to the table, and that hes not just another contract, and I’m sure we’d be able to negotiate price.
by avalancheman on Jan 22, 2011 12:53 AM PST up reply actions
Pff, as long as we have Marks, we're set!
MVP. MVP. MVP.
Mark my words... Dante Cunningham will be an all star
by roynfernandez on Jan 21, 2011 9:28 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Trade Joel or Marcus?
I am hoping we’ll find ourselves in at least 7th and possibly 6th in the West by the trade deadline, so I’m hoping we’ll stay pat for this season. I don’t believe either Joel or Marcus wants to be traded, and they’ve both hinted at retiring if they are. I’d sure like to ride this season out with the guys we’ve got. After last year and this so far, they deserve that. They’ve come a long way together — and us fans along with them. GO BLAZERS! RIP CITY LIVES!
by Pamela503 on Jan 22, 2011 1:13 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Its amazing
that Pryz is even out there playing, its been one of the most enjoyable side stories to the season.
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Recent Quotes...
Recent Quotes from Przybilla make me believe his future as a player in the N.B.A. will be determined primarily by himself.
Sounds like his priorites are shifting from being a professional player…to life after basketball….
And I think that’s great.
As much as I like Przybilla, as much as I have enjoyed his play….if he is not comfortable with his knees or continuing to put the stress on his knees that play requires? Or even if he has simply decided to move on? I support that.
For The Blazers he currently is an asset as both a player and an expiring contract…what The Blazers should do with this asset is a slightly seperate debate as to what future Joel may have with The Blazers and/or within the N.B.A.. Even though both topics are are interwoven together.
The way Joel is talking? I think retirement is looming. Next Season? The Following?…only Joel really knows..
I’d like to see Joel retire a Blazer…but…any way you slice it, Joel is not a long term answer to the center position. If The Blazers can benefit from trading him? I suppose you must divorce yourself from sentimentality and make that move….
Joel says he has saved his money, he seems to be slowly transforming himself from the reality of being a player…to post player life….
Whatever happens I wish him well…
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
Joel has value
Joel can help us get into the ‘melo talks more fully. Joel, Camby, Batum, and draft pick(s) for Carmelo and Harrington. Let’s get this done. Post lockout line-up of Mills, Roy/Matthews, Anthony, Aldridge, Oden takes us over the top.
by deusXmachina on Jan 22, 2011 12:37 PM PST via mobile reply actions
If we can get a draft pick for him...
you gotta make that deal. That is what I think we’ll end up doing. I actually expect a flurry of moves from Cho in quick succession that will pretty clearly show his plan (which I believe will show a penchant for rebuilding through the draft).
I love Joel, too, and if we can use his expiring contract to grab a big FA, great, but I expect us to get something more tangible out of Joel than cap space.
With the CBA uncertainty (will retiring player’s contracts still even matter), I do expect Joel to be dealt,
Trade him for what?.............
A second round pick that turns into, who? Whats the point?
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