OJ Mayo
The Grizzlies are openly shopping Mayo and the price tag doesn't look to be very high.
Chip Crain, from ESPN Truehoop, claims "Memphis is looking to make the playoffs this season, and it is apparent from comments in the media by Grizzlies coach Lionel Hollins that the team isn't content with its present bench situation. Mayo and Hasheem Thabeet are former high draft picks who are non-starters and who are owed more than $10 million in salary next season, cash that the Grizzlies may feel they need to use to re-sign Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph as well." (Crain).
Although it is all good and well that Management asserts its desire to be a playoff team, this organization has proven throughout the years that it is willing to sacrifice talent for financial purposes, especially with the lockout looming. Now I'm not saying that they would just give Mayo away but looking at their moves the last few years, which included signing Allen Iverson and drafting Xavier Henry in the 1st round this year, it is apparent they aren't crazy about Mayo.
Chip goes on to say, "If the Grizzlies do trade Mayo, it will likely be for players willing to come off the bench and produce consistently. Expiring contracts are likely to be involved as well. The team is not ready to concede a playoff run just yet but it is believed to be of higher importance that the Grizzlies free up financial room for the contracts of Gasol and Randolph. If the Grizzlies don't get expiring deals in trade then someone must come back to the team in trade with a legitimate 3-point shot and the ability to score in bunches."
In this scenario we would certainly have the right pieces to satisfy their wishes. Joel (expiring deal), Rudy--three point specialist ;)-- and one of our first round picks, would fit within the salary framework. (Trade Machine)
The question is would we want the former lottery picks and their two year contracts? Thabeet hasn't shown a remnant of consistent productivity while Mayo has struggled to score and defend in his uncertain role with the team this year. However, this is still a guy that averaged 18 points per game in his first two years while shooting 38 % from the 3 point line and defending his position well. I know some of us have developed an affinity for Wesley Matthews but it is clear that he is not ready to be a consistent offensive performer at the starting SG position for our team. Now I know that he has been much better in the starting lineup as opposed to coming off the bench, which was what the organization had original planned for him, but eventually, if and when Roy returns, he will be forced to cede his position regardless.
If we were to trade for the Grizzlies guard and center combination before the deadline, we would be gaining a 7"3 center to replace Joel, who has played like the undead since his return. Thabeet isn't Hakeem by any means, although they share a shallow similarity in the appearance of their first names, but he can still certainly take up space and block shots in the 10 minutes that Joel currently occupies in his negligible role. As for Oj Mayo , you get a guy who, as Chris Broussard reported today, " is looking to go to a winning situation." (Broussard). In addition, we get an athletic two guard who has historically shot the ball well from the perimeter, hit his freethrows and acted professionally--aside from his little boxing match with Tony Allen.
We could run him out there for the rest of the season, with no Roy impasses, and watch him help space the floor for Aldridge with his jumpshot in the halfcourt set and finish at the rim with his athleticism in transition. He is only 23 and has already experienced great success in his age 21 and 22 seasons. As for this year and beyond, we would at worst have an expiring contract in 2012 that we could deal after the lockout, same with Thabeet who would have to have his team option extended. Brandon Roy isn't going to be recovered from his surgeries until at least this time 2012, so a logjam at the the SG position wouldn't be a topic of debate for a long time, that is assuming that Roy comes back able to play. The trade would make us better in the near term, as OJ is most likely be an upgrade in our current starting lineup over Wesley with Mathews sliding into Rudy's, on the bench, creating another upgrade.
The whole Western conference playoff picture is much more accessible this year than last. The Lakers, even after the Cleveland Genocide, are not showing themselves to be as consistent as they were in the previous two title runs. This regression has swung the door open for everyone else. Portland has shown the ability to play competitive basketball with great teams and I think that Cho and Allen need to recognize that an addition at the deadline, especially one such limited risk as the one mentioned, would be a risk worth closely examining.
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I question this assertion
Brandon Roy isn’t going to be recovered from his surgeries until at least this time 2012
If he is gonna feel better at all, it will be sooner than that….if he doesn’t feel better, he will likely be done
Harry Bosch: "Everybody counts....or nobody counts."
You have to remember
This is a guy who is having Microfracture surgery on BOTH of his knees, knees which aren’t in the most mint of shape as it is. Even if he is able to get back on the court in say 8-10 months, I doubt he will be moving very well at that time. We will see though, I love Brandon and would like nothing more than to see him doing well out there.
lol
Yes my apologies…I didn’t mean to say Microfracture, I guess that particular procedure just starts to loom in one’s head after it being mentioned so much. I experienced a temporary paralysis of the brain. He is cleaning them out, but I don’t expect him back this year regardless as reports have indicated.
On March 9, 2007, Mayo and three other men were cited by the Cabell County Sheriff’s Dept. for misdemeanor simple possession of marijuana. Officers found the cannabis in a car in which Mayo was a passenger and, since no one claimed possession, all occupants were ticketed. Charges against Mayo were dropped on March 12, 2007 after one of the other passengers in the vehicle took responsibility for the marijuana.
Even if he was exonerated, do you really want that kind of player on this team again? I don’t have anything against weed at all. But the Blazers have a very specific and negative recent history of players abusing that drug without discretion. I think it may be too soon to welcome someone onto the team with a history like this, even if he is a good player.
"You know, when you are in the game, you hear 20,000 people behind you, you don't feel anything."
- Nicolas Batum on playing through his shoulder injury during the 2010 playoffs.
This
"Batum must be french for: being at the right place at the right time" -
-StudMuffin15 @ Rufus On Fire
"Juwan "The Clipper Killer" Howard" - Natedog1977 @ ClipsNation
" I would trade our entire team for Brandon Roy"
- Slick4President @ Indy Cornrows
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jan 14, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
I hate to say what you should think.
But honestly, you should not care whether or not somebody smokes weed, that’s not your business.
Nicolas Batum is the future of the Blazers
by gtbassett on Jan 14, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
amen brother
Marijuana is an herb. Smoking it is effective medicine for some people. Many who smoke this herb are successful, mainstream people: lawyers, doctors, athletes, judges, editors, business owners… hell, even Phil Knight smokes weed. Get a freakin clue.
Goldman Sachs is the # 1 donor to $enator Evan Bayh, who serves on the $enate committee that overseas the Treasury Department. In a totally unrelated coincidence, after the Government enacted a bailout program that funnels huge amounts of taxpayer $$$$ to Goldman Sachs, this is what happened: Goldman Sachs earned $1.81 billion, or $3.39 a share, for the quarter ended March 31, 2009. Goldman Sachs shares, which have surged more than 70% during the past month, continued rising late Monday, gaining about 4.7% for the day.
Nobody even tries to hide this any longer. The only way they could make it more blatant is if they hung a huge Goldman Sachs logo on the Capitol dome and then branded it onto the foreheads of leading members of Congress and executive branch officials.
I care because it’s illegal, whether you think it should be or not. This is not a question of “should marijuana be a controlled substance?” It’s a question of “should we make a trade for this guy?” If I could choose between someone with a rap sheet and someone without- all things being equal, I’ll take the one without.
So should I “get a freakin clue” for thinking that?
I miss Greg
I care.
The people you associate with help define you. That he was stupid enough to hang out with a buddy who was transporting marijuana in his car, says alot about Mayo. Even if he wasn’t guilty of possession himself, it says he doesn’t care. That he lacks good judgement. I want players who care on this team. Players who take pride in being good members of the community.
Denver don’t want him either. Probably for similar, character-related issues.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6019859
"You know, when you are in the game, you hear 20,000 people behind you, you don't feel anything."
- Nicolas Batum on playing through his shoulder injury during the 2010 playoffs.
I'm sure there might be other character related issues regarding Mayo
But him having weed is not one of them. I am positive that more than one current Blazer lights it up quite often during the offseason.
Nicolas Batum is the future of the Blazers
Again, no offense, but Idisagre with you.
Having weed in your car doesnt mean anything at all. Your friend having weed in your car means even less. Now, im sure at some point in your life you too have ridden in a car that had weed in it. Most people know someone who smokes weed. You certainly get judged by who you hang out with but also sh*t happens where other people make dumb mistakes and you just happened to be there. Is that a reflection of you?, no its a reflection of them.
I had this happen once, I picked up a hitchhiker and a pipe fell out of his pocket. I didnt know for a few weeks that there was a pot pipe in my car. At any time if I would have been pulled over, I would have received a ticket. Now does that mean I am a bad person or that I actually broke any laws? Not at all, but try telling that to the cop! LOL. He woulda never believed me.
Mayo is a good player—he might not be the best trade scenario for us, but I wouldnt let a misdemeanor stop me from making a trade.
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 14, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Camby had a weed citation.
One weed citation is no big deal.
wha??
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jan 14, 2011 2:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
So did Chris Webber, Chris Andersen, Isaiah RIder, Mookie Blaylock, Bill Walton, Michael beasley, Mario Chalmers
The list goes on and on. Ricky Williams was a huge pot head at the University of Texas and New Orleans Saints. He claimed it help ease his ‘social anxiety’ and threatened to quit the NFL. I wouldn’t trade for a player with that kind of addiction, but possession in some car while he was in college; and not even substantiated to be his bud – WHATEVER MAN!
by zeusmith on Jan 14, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hmm - Memphis West?
There are so many questions about such a proposal
- Mayo is not better than Wesley IMO, so same problem of coming off the bench
- Thabeet is a classic overreach that has not demonstrated he can play in the league
- Rudy is more valuable than both IMO
- Joel might be more valuable than both as he should still gain in recovering his rhythm and conditioning. Comparing Joel to Thabeet is like comparing an oak tree to a willow. Taking up space does not seem to be Thabeet’s strength.
- No point in throwing away a 1st round pick
The Blazers have set their sights on championships. Neither Mayo or Thabeet are likely to advance them towards that goal. They both strike me as JAG players (just another guy). These may be inaccurate views born from too little study but the bottom line is trades need to substantially improve the talent and maintain or improve the culture to be advantageous. I simply don’t view this one as qualifying.
Not sure how you can say Rudy is more valuable than Mayo (who averaged 18 ppg over his first two seasons)
or that Mayo would have the same struggles coming off the bench as Wes…they are completely different players. Also, Thabeet is actually bigger than Przy in both height and weight
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 14, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
if Joels expiring is all we give up
I say go for it—I just doubt Mem goes for it.
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 14, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Who would be batship crazy enough to ever claim Rudy Fernandez in better than Mayo?
LOL Seems like some people still have affinity for The Most Inconsistent Rotation Player in the NBA. That’s just an obscene perspective.
Totally agree Mayo is way better than Rudy
But he did say more valuable, so perhaps he is factoring in the huge difference in contracts each is owed? Trying to come to his defense somewhat….
by Game.Blouses on Jan 14, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
Y'all gotta remember....
Rudy is a 1.25 mil player. Not like mayo. I think he’s a 4mil player. A way higher pick as well. At this point I dnt see mayo helping the team.
by Hoi on Jan 15, 2011 5:26 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Rudy's contract is cheaper, and he is a fan favorite so there's value there
but I don’t think there’s any question that if you swap OJ Mayo and Rudy Fernandez we are a better team as a result
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
i've been an advocate for getting mayo and thabeet for a while now
still think OJ is better then rudy and mayo can possibly play some pg.
Sounds like a great locker room guy
Details of Allen vs. Mayo fight emerge
Allen, regarded as one of the toughest guys in the league, tried to avoid a confrontation, but Mayo trash-talked Allen for roughly 15 minutes, criticizing his game, bragging about how he was a better basketball player than Allen, about how he was a lottery pick.
Finally, Allen had enough and struck Mayo in the face. He then landed a succession of blows to Mayo’s eye, mouth, shoulder and the side of his head. Mayo was able to get off a swing, but Allen ducked to avoid it and then clocked Mayo once more for good measure.
Allen was especially bothered by Mayo’s chatter because they have a friendly relationship. Zach Randolph tried to play peacemaker, telling Mayo to stop ribbing Allen, but to no avail.
by jrj on Jan 14, 2011 10:09 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I know everyone is leery
about bringing in dangerous “locker room guys” because of the infamous Jailblazers but just because the guy smokes some pot and got in one confrontation, where HE was struck first as it appears, doesn’t make him an awful person. Look I’m not the head of OJ’s fan club here, I just think the guy could affect the team positively as a player on the court.
It's the taunting of a teammate
that makes him seem like more of an ass than the fight itself.
I agree with you
OJ would be a decent pickup. I love Joel, but he is a shell of his formoer self and even Thabeet could outplay him right now.
Regardless of who we pick up, Im just sick of how many injured players we have and have had; it would be nice to put a healthy rosteron the floor.
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 14, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Say What????
"LA has clearly moved into position where a frontcourt injury or two could get him on the (All-star) roster. Never thought I’d be saying that." - jksnake99 1-5-11
by LaMarvelous on Jan 14, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
He's referring to Lionel Hollins banning gambling on team flights, after it caused a fight
when they were flying outta L.A. after whooping on the lakers.
Completely irrelevant point, but i think it was an attempt at humor?
I don’t like Mayo much as a player but he’d be a good scoring 6th man if you didn’t give up much for him.
long live the jd.
by jksnake99 on Jan 14, 2011 10:36 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
He's a good scorer...
but I don’t think he fits the “culture”.
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
Here is the thing..
If Memphis is trying to make the playoffs, who do you think they see as the weakest playoff member, who’s seed they can take?
Well now that would probably be us considering we are in 8th seed and haven’t been playing any better. So would they really make a trade with us that gives us any help?
Also, if they are looking for salary relief, the huge trade exceptions of Toronto and Cleveland and the capspace of Minnesota/Sacramento would be much preferable to Joel, and Rudy+mid 1st are not so valuable as to put us at the top of the bidding – anyone with an expiring contract can give as much if not more.
I'd do this deal
I’ll take Thabeet as a backup 5 (probably not better than a healthy Przy, but who knows if we’ll ever get that again), and OJ Mayo would be a great 6th man. Hard for me to say that Rudy is a better player than a lottery pick who averaged 18 ppg his first two years in the league. Buy low on this guy if you can. I would keep Wes in the starting lineup. I’m confident that one guy with a suspect history won’t devastate the locker room. None of our other players are enablers for that kind of crap behavior like Tony Allen, ZBO, etc…(and thank goodness for that).
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 14, 2011 11:28 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Where do we need alot of help?
Our bench.
Both of these guys would give our bench a lift-theres no 2 ways about it. But what do we have to give up?
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 14, 2011 11:58 AM PST reply actions
how bout this and drat pick
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4zr3mxm
simple trade but works
would they go for it?
cuz i would!
I like it-
but how do they come with
minus -2 for wins?
No way Joel is better than BOTH- OJ and Thabeet
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 14, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
No way that goes down
I doubt they’d trade either of those guys alone for Joel.
by hoodieNation on Jan 14, 2011 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
If the Blazers got Mayo
I would keep him in check.
He went to North College Hill, the high school right next to mine. Granted he is a decade younger than me, but we could talk about all kinds of Cincinnati suburbs things together. We’d hang out at Sawyer Point and burn one, then grab some Skyline on the way home. Luckily I’d have some Graeters in the freezer, so we could just chill listen to HiTek until it was time for him to go home.
It’s a win/win for Portland.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
by mittsabishy on Jan 14, 2011 12:46 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It's something to think about
Mayo can definitely shoot
ignacio
I have always liked Mayo. To me he's a poor man's Kobe Bryant...
I’m sure there are reasons that the stat guys hate him, but he’s the kind of guy who can always get his shot and who makes a good number of clutch buckets. Definitely the type of shooter this team needs.
Now, do the Blazers actually have anything to TRADE for Mayo? That’s less likely.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Exactly
We need a player who can create his own shot off the dribble. If the Blazers have the opportunity to acquire such a player, I think they should do it. Matthews is a nice player, but he can’t really do this. Batum’s inability to create his own shot is also why I have trouble seeing him ever become much more than an above average role player. So, the question is whether Mayo has this ability.
by chuckles the clown on Jan 15, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
lol!
Rudy—three point specialist ;)
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What about this...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4er5e6q
Plus rights of Claver to Memphis and Blazers’s one first round draft pick(via Hornets),to Houston…
And summer could get a deal with Minnesota…O.J.Mayo for their 2011 lottery pick…
Memphis would most likely not trade with us unless it's really worth it.
They are fighting for the spot we currently reside in. 8th seed.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
if Mayo is a jerk than fahgetaboutit.
Goldman Sachs is the # 1 donor to $enator Evan Bayh, who serves on the $enate committee that overseas the Treasury Department. In a totally unrelated coincidence, after the Government enacted a bailout program that funnels huge amounts of taxpayer $$$$ to Goldman Sachs, this is what happened: Goldman Sachs earned $1.81 billion, or $3.39 a share, for the quarter ended March 31, 2009. Goldman Sachs shares, which have surged more than 70% during the past month, continued rising late Monday, gaining about 4.7% for the day.
Nobody even tries to hide this any longer. The only way they could make it more blatant is if they hung a huge Goldman Sachs logo on the Capitol dome and then branded it onto the foreheads of leading members of Congress and executive branch officials.

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