Do we need a/some 3-point specialist/s?
by CoryBauer on Sep 8, 2010 7:32 PM PDT
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I was unable to wait any longer for the season to start last weekend so I popped NBA2k10 in, updated the roster and traded for Wes Matthews. Got rid of Webster as well. This venture ended up being a reminder that the actual Blazers squad isn't much of a 3-point threat like it was when Blake, Webster and Outlaw were still in the mix. That's not to say that I think the old lineup is better, because it's not. I in fact think we are suited to win more games than with the one that won 54. Nonetheless, I'm worried the 3 point shot might not show up this season.
Which of our players do you think should garner this role? Matthews and Batum both shoot it quite well from outside, and yet I wouldn't consider them the be all end all 3-point shooters by any stretch of the imagination. I feel that they could adopt a role like that alongside their perimeter defense and actually be quite good at it. Most of us would agree that Rudy isn't going to be the guy, and Brandon Roy is better off shooting clutch perimeter shots. I have a have enough faith in Bayless in hitting the shot at a 35% mark from out there, but I wouldn't say that strategy works with his strengths.
Now, all of this could be a good thing in that we have to take it to the the paint more often. I'm just worried that opposing teams will smother Greg and Aldridge and force what few 3-point threats we have left to shoot it more often from beyond the arc. This should in theory leave our shooters wide open, but as I said above, how well can these 'shooters' deliver from outside?
One more thing. Let's stick with what we have, and not turn this into an Andre Miller bash-fest. Obviously, he should absolutely never shoot it from outside, but should be included in the discussion. Will his presence be felt for better or for worse?
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I sincerely hope...
that the lack of 3-pt specialists will cause the coaching staff to find some alternative plays than 5 guys standing around the paint like they’re playing Around the World…
Indeed!
The Blazers will be a better three-point shooting team the more open looks they get. They do this by:
1. Entering the ball to Greg Oden and having him pass out,
2. Driving through the lane and kicking out,
3. Having LMA going toward the hoop more,
4. Not eating up the clock running the iso then throwing flaming bag passes to Miller on the 3-pt line, and
5. Getting loads of offensive rebounds, catching the opponent off-balance defensively.
The team needs to draw double teams in the paint and THEN kick to the perimeter.
In KP I trusted!
by LaoTzu on Sep 9, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes indeed
rec on all counts
Oden is a willing passer out of the post. Once Greg’s dominant again he’s going to make a huge difference re: Portland’s half court offense
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Batum, Matthews, Bayless, Roy, Babbitt
LMA, Cunningham, Camby from 15-20 feet
the roster already has plenty of floor spreaders
I’m more concerned about the defensive intensity and how they attack the PnR
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by two4larue on Sep 8, 2010 8:27 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This.
The game was delayed for over 15 minutes with 5:07 left in the second quarter after France's Nicolas Batum, who plays for the Portland Trail Blazers, dunked and twisted the rim. Officials scrambled to put a new rim on the basket and reattach a net.
I'm not going to bash Miller
since you asked us not to, but I do think he’s the key piece in getting us a sharpshooting point guard who can also play D.
please name that player and explain how its possible to get him
cause I can only think of………………….Hinrich?
by skott75 on Sep 9, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
psst hinrich is overrated
pass it on….
Geriatric Dunk Squad!
1/4/10 - Juwan Howard dunks on Chris Kaman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkOqDgLb6s
3/7/10 - Andre Miller Tomahawk jams on the Denver Nuggets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JVgm7F1QA
4/12/10 - Marcus Camby drops 30 and 13 on OKC to cement 50 wins. http://www.nba.com/blazers/media/camby_chant_041310.mp3
by Eat Politicians on Sep 9, 2010 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
YES!!! YES!!!! YES!!!!!
it had to be said…
kObe iS thE aNtiChRiSt
by Brendan Holladay on Sep 9, 2010 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions
He might be overrated
But he would fit perfectly in our system.
Maybe the systems isn't great to begin with?
It’s decent, but is it championship-basketball good?
I will run naked through the streets if Oden wins the MVP this season...happily.
But its the system that we've got
I different system means different personnel and coaching. That’s a lot of changes and a lot of time.
Somehow it is being perpetuated that this team cannot shoot the basketball
With Blake, Outlaw, Rudy and Roy we threw quite a few daggers. That won’t change too much for the worse I guess. Name a team that has a complete rotation of sharpshooters. Maybe LA or Chicago comes closest.
Orlando comes to mind
and Golden State
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Phenix benefits from all their 3s being super wide open
Except for nash, but he’s the best shooter in the NBA. They get those wide-open 3s by following Lao Tzu’s guidelines aboe, although losing Amare will hurt a lot in that department
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losing Amare will hurt a lot
this^
Phoenix is going to start looking like Golden State. Regular season nightmare for tired teams, but a playoff pushover (if they make it into the top 8)
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Good point
I was thinking of good 3 pt shooting teams, but oregonslee did say “a rotation of sharpshooters,” which doesn’t describe PHX, as a lot of their guys aren’t really that good, just in a good 3pt shooting system.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
My contention re: Golden State
There’s a key difference between “shooter” and “chucker.” With Morrow and Azibuike gone, they hae a lot more of the latter
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name some not named Monta
Over The Line!
by Lat We N Trash on Sep 10, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
ANDRE MILLER
Drilling 3’s from downtown and tomahawk dunking on fools 24/7!
Ok, maybe not 24/7, but it did happen once or twice…
Geriatric Dunk Squad!
1/4/10 - Juwan Howard dunks on Chris Kaman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkOqDgLb6s
3/7/10 - Andre Miller Tomahawk jams on the Denver Nuggets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JVgm7F1QA
4/12/10 - Marcus Camby drops 30 and 13 on OKC to cement 50 wins. http://www.nba.com/blazers/media/camby_chant_041310.mp3
by Eat Politicians on Sep 9, 2010 12:40 AM PDT reply actions
Yes, we do need some 3-point specialist/s.
And we are not as deep at PG, SG and SF as people think we are, when you consider the fragility of our players and Nate´s dislike for playing rookies.
Bayless is "tweaked" right now
Roy was hurt a lot last year
It’s easy to look at roster preparation and say “if this or that goes wrong then Rudy could be useful”
but if the other guards/wings are healthy then Fernandez is going to be grumpy again, for the reasons you documented last winter
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I'd like one more veteran PG
As healthy as Miller has been for the last 10 years this might seem like overkill, depth-wise. I’m just concerned about what would happen if the team got past the trading deadline and Andre had his first major injury. Bayless and Johnson are inexperienced at the 1, and Roy-Batum-Matthews can’t play 48 mpg as a trio
It’s a tough sell though, because if Miller is healthy I don’t want the veteran to be taking minutes away from Jerryd, but then the veteran PG needs to be good enough to take over in case Andre goes down. If Portland doesn’t plan ahead, these emergency situations never seem to happen at the optimum time during the season
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I'd like to see Brandon play PG with Wesley for about 5 minutes a game in preseason.
Yeah, I know why it shouldn’t work. I just want to see what would really happen if given a legitimate chance for 3-4 games.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 10, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
If Jerryd's "tweak" lasts another 30 days, you might get your wish
From Lance’s interview it sounds like Wesley and Armon are already bonding. Those 2 could be awesome in a year or two. Bayless had better blow everybody’s socks off this year
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Once Rudy Fernandez is finally moved elsewhere, you and I agree that Earl Watson is best ...
suited for that role. I’d also like to move Jeff Pendergraph — such as to the Minnesota T’wolves for a 2014 second-round draft pick (via the New Orleans Hornets) — and, in turn, sign Fabricio Oberto, who’d shore up the third-string center spot with a veteran presence. To me, experienced guys like that are perfect for spot minutes in emergency situations.
I wouldn't mind FO
and least he could defend another big man without being whistled for a foul every time down the floor, like Jeff
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Why would anyone give anything for Pendergraph?
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 10, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Pendergraph is going to be thrown into some package to match salaries in a trade someday, and then waived.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 10, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
We could use more shooting, but we don't have room for more players
Adding more 3 point capability is something almost every team could benefit from. I don’t get people who try to downplay this, but whatev.
That said, the roster looks pretty full. Adding a shooting specialist doesn’t create more available minutes, so I’d say no we don’t have to add a specialist. Our best bet for improvement there is if our existing rotation players, particularly Batum and Bayless, continue to develop their outside shooting. It will also help if Andre Miller continues to work his way into the system, which when executed properly makes ok shooters into good ones and good ones into great ones.
this solves everything
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=32gm5n7
My mom babysat Paul Allen
Yes, we should add one of the worst contracts in the league
I assume you are kidding, yes?
it's second only to Joe Johnson's
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
not sure if they’d go for that, maybe we need to sweeten the deal.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2for2ua
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