TrailBlazers.com Podcast
by Dave on Sep 2, 2010 2:45 PM PDT
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PrintHere's this week's edition of the podcast in which Casey and I do our best to answer your pressing, burning questions. Wait...does that make your questions sound too much like hemorrhoids? Sorry about that. Although some of them DO keep returning again and again...
We also talk a little FIBA in this one.
You can download the .mp3 here or head over to Casey's to stream or do that iPod thing.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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You guys need more banter
There were some great questions and answers. I have no complaints about the opinions. You both just agree too much. Bert and Earnie are wondering if you two ever disagree.
#52
I agree!
Oh wait…
But seriously, we’re just getting back into the swing of things. More vim and vinegar will be coming as the weeks progress.
—Dave
It might help if you'd try stealing Casey's girlfriend...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
tell Lance we want some PF video
even if he has to hide the camera
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
How about some '80ies heavy metal theme music
and outlandishly controversial statements. You’ll never make it in the sports talk radio world with thoughtful well considered discussion.
Re Rudy to Europe: The player Dave thought about was Vassilis Spanoulis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vassilis_Spanoulis#Back_to_Panathinaikos
He was unhappy stuck behind T-Mac in Houston, like Rudy is stuck behind Roy now. His agent talked about “slavery” when Houston traded his contract to San Antonio in the Luis Scola deal. Technically he paid his buyout himself, but of course European teams are not bound by the USD 500k limit and can theoretically buy out a whole contract.
I’ll have to research if there ever was a player traded for another asset outside of the league. I think I’ve heard about that happen in the D-League, but not sure about the NBA. But since draft picks were even exchanged to compensate for the transfer of coaches (SVG, Grgurich, …), I wouldn’t rule it out. Though it’s likely such a deal would happen outside of the CBA as you said.
"Listening to the media only increases your odds of failing at whatever you are doing" - Mark Cuban
As Dave mentioned in the Podcast
we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. Clearly there’s not a lot of precedent, although the Spanoulis situation is probably the closest.
I don’t know of any CBA prohibition, but have no idea if there might be a prohibition written elsewhere (NBA bylaws, etc.)
Dave, I'm glad that you "outed" yourself, but I have lots of questions.
For a year and a half, you have carefully claimed that you were pretty much an agnostic in the controversy surrounding Bayless. Reading between the lines of many of your comments, I’ve always suspected that you were a skeptic at heart. Your comments here, and your effusive praise for AJ during SL, make it pretty clear that you are in the 20-30% of fans who I think can properly be called Baylo-skeptics. Your comments make it pretty clear that you see Bayless as primarily a "2 " and that you don’t think there is room for him on the Blazer’s roster looking forward.
I find a couple of aspects of this hard to understand. In your end of the season reviews, you recognized Bayless as the team’s most improved player and acknowledged and lauded his across the board progress. Do you think that progress is suddenly going to stop at age twenty-one? Do you think he is only going to improve as a scorer and defender, but not as a distributor? Is your lack of optimism because you think the Blazers need a traditional, pass-first PG? How do you reconcile this with having a ball-dominant and playmaking SG like Roy?
I found your recent post suggesting a Roy-Rudy backcourt pretty puzzling. I clearly see the fit issues between Roy and Miller, with both being at their best with the ball in their hands, and Miller not being well suited to spreading the floor for Roy. However, I found it extremely surprising that you proposed Rudy as a solution to the problem rather than either Mathews or Bayless. Both make for a better defensive match with Roy, than Rudy.
I would argue that Bayless is likely to be the best fit out of the three, if you are looking for an alternative to Miller. Bayless is the best ball-handler. Bayless is probably the best at stopping penetration by the the large cohort of young, speedy PGs in the league. Bayless isn’t as accomplished as Mathews or Rudy as a shooter, but he appears to be rapidly improving as his 38% from 3 after the All-Star break and his 40% in the playoffs seems to indicate. Bayless is obviously much better at penetrating and getting to the line than either Rudy or Mathews. Finally, if you are willing to consider Roy as the primary playmaker for certain stretches, doesn’t that limit the concern about Bayless as a distributor. For all the criticism about Bayless as a distributor, his AST% and TOs are much better than either Rudy or Mathews.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that your lack of faith in Bayless seems inconsistent with advocating Rudy as a potential fit next to Roy. I also find it odd that you seem so fired up about AJ when he is so limited as a shooter. I would appreciate some clarification of your thinking.
by upper left corner on Sep 3, 2010 10:33 AM PDT reply actions
Great Scott -- how could I not see this before?
The persistent, relentless support of all things Bayless, like a juggernaut on a mission.
The fierce, fiery intensity in the face of challenge and persecution.
The tiny, vestigial arms.
It all makes sense now.
Upper left corner is JERRYD BAYLESS!
I am all for being able to laugh at myself.....
……but your attempt at humor, or ridicule, lacks freshness and doesn’t strike me as particularly funny. I post about many topics on this site, and don’t feel that being written off as a “one note wonder” is particularly justified.
I think the questions I tried to pose to Dave are fairly central to what sort of roster moves the team should make, or not make, as it attempts to join the ranks of the elite. If that effort strikes you as trivial or boring, then I recommend you skip the discussion. If on the other hand you are interested in seeing the team make progress, I think these are substantive questions that deserve substantive discussion.
There is a real and ongoing discussion about what kind of player would be the best fit next to Roy. Many don’t think Miller is the answer. Dave suggested that Rudy might be the answer. I disagree, and I believe Dave’s position is logically inconsistent.
My comments have little to do with “relentless support of all things Bayless” and more to do with trying to figure out what the team needs to do to compete with the F*kers and the Heat.
by upper left corner on Sep 3, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Here's what I wrote in your Rethinking the Point thread last month:
I was never a Bayless hater, but he did seem pretty one-dimensional to me. Your eloquent arguments, and Jerryd’s slow but steady improvement each season, have convinced me that the Blazers should give him every opportunity to succeed in Portland. I’ve always felt that was their plan anyway. They gave Travis Outlaw and Martell Webster several years, so I’m sure they’ll do the same for Jerryd.
Maybe it’s just me, but I thought my comment today was much funnier.
Sorry if I was a bit cranky in my earlier reply
I admit to being tad relentless, on the other hand, I do get tired of being accused of being “all-Bayless, all the time.” It has become a bit of a sore subject with me, and your post definitely gave it a good poke.
I try to be a decent, contributing member of our little community here at BE. I do believe it is fair to say I post on many subjects. I’ll freely confess to being a bit obsessed with the subject of PG play, although the irony is that this was true even before Bayless was drafted. In any case I appreciated the softer tone of your second comment.
by upper left corner on Sep 3, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It's just going to take some time for everyone to come around
The Baylo-skeptics (Jaynes, Vance, et al) are convinced that the Jerryd-as-PGotF experiment was a failure. Nate and the front office are not, because clearly there is no experienced competition coming into camp for Bayless at the backup 1. Johnson is a rookie, and I expect he will be a solid NBA PG in the future, but as of today it’s Miller, backup up by Bayless
(unless the Blazers want to try a wonky “lineup” with Roy at the PG, which is not what Brandon’s hoping for and not a long term, high minute proposal)
Rather than try to “work-around” the theory that Bayless is a PG in a SG’s body, Portland’s front office and coaches are counting on Jerryd to continue to show improvement, and to build on the success that he showed last March-April. Sure, a trade could still be made this fall to change the depth chart at PG, or a veteran FA PG could yet be signed with the BAE to join fall camp. But until either of these scenarios are realized, Blazer fans should embrace the idea of Bayless as a PG playing alongside Roy, and/or Matthews.
Rex might play some SG alongside Miller as well, if the opponent’s backcourt is undersized or if Portland needs to play at a faster tempo
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
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