Variable Pricing Sneak Peek (UPDATE 2 - 10/15 3pm)
by douglast on Sep 13, 2010 2:24 PM PDT
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As a season ticket holder (first year!), I was given early access to purchase single game tickets, starting today at noon. We get the same variable pricing model that the general public gets in a couple weeks when tickets go on sale. I thought it might be helpful for those of you planning on buying single game tickets to post the preliminary pricing information I saw.
Keep in mind pricing is subject to change at any time do to market forces.
The Heat and both Laker games sold out on the presale. Not sure if any tickets were held back for the public sale, but I would guess yes. Not sure about other games.
If this post violates any Blazer rules or would potentially bring the team wrath upon me or this site, please delete and let me know.
FACE TR1 TR2 TR3 TR4 TR5 STH* ST%
WHITE MIDDLE 170 265 167 153 144 134 -72 -1%
WHITE CORNER 150 250 139 115 110 99 -347 -7%
CLUB1 160 225 158 144 139 134 -418 -7%
CLUB2 135 199 131 115 111 99 -473 -10%
CLUB CORNER 120 199 113 108 99 89 139 3%
FUCHSIA 120 190 125 107 98 89 199 4%
BLUE 95 180 86 72 68 64 126 4%
FOREST GREEN 90 170 77 68 62 59 1 0%
YELLOW CORNER 68 120 67 61 54 47 255 10%
YELLOW 63 110 61 49 44 35 -23 -1%
GREEN 55 99 57 50 41 35 17 1%
ORANGE 45 85 45 41 35 31 207 12%
BROWN 33 80 38 30 25 23 241 18%
PURPLE 28 75 32 25 21 16 154 14%
RED 22 59 25 20 16 12 126 14%
TAN 10 50 23 14 11 9 250 36%
FACE - Published Face Value
TR1 - 3 games (Lakers x2, Heat)
TR2 - 9 games
TR3 - 10 games
TR4 - 11 games
TR5 - 8 games
STH - Season Ticket Holder Savings: Does NOT include loyalty discounts, does include mandatory 3 preseason games
ST% - Season Ticket Holder Savings (% off total variable price of all 41 games)
DATE TR OPPONENT -------- -- ---------- 10/26/10 2 Phoenix 11/04/10 3 Oklahoma City 11/06/10 4 Toronto 11/09/10 5 Detroit 11/18/10 3 Denver 11/20/10 2 Utah 11/26/10 3 New Orleans 12/05/10 5 L.A. Clippers 12/07/10 4 Phoenix 12/09/10 2 Orlando 12/17/10 5 Minnesota 12/18/10 4 Golden State 12/20/10 5 Milwaukee 12/30/10 2 Utah 01/02/11 4 Houston 01/09/11 1 Miami 01/11/11 5 New York 01/15/11 4 New Jersey 01/17/11 5 Minnesota 01/20/11 5 L.A. Clippers 01/22/11 4 Indiana 01/24/11 5 Sacramento 01/27/11 2 Boston 02/01/11 3 San Antonio 02/07/11 3 Chicago 02/16/11 4 New Orleans 02/23/11 1 L.A. Lakers 02/25/11 2 Denver 02/27/11 4 Atlanta 03/01/11 4 Houston 03/05/11 3 Charlotte 03/15/11 3 Dallas 03/17/11 4 Cleveland 03/19/11 3 Philadelphia 03/22/11 4 Washington 03/25/11 2 San Antonio 04/01/11 2 Oklahoma City 04/03/11 2 Dallas 04/05/11 3 Golden State 04/08/11 1 L.A. Lakers 04/12/11 3 Memphis
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Tickets are too expensive
Looks like my local pub will see more of me this year
Differences are huge for Tan.
Plus three tiers are well above “face” value, and tier four is just below. No more cheap tickets to most games.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
Wait
The league mandates that the team have at least 500 seats available every game for $10 or less, but the only ones that actually meet that requirement are in a single tier?
During the 2008-2009 season,
before the implementation of flexible pricing, all tan seats were $10 for single tickets regardless of opponent. Since then, I don’t see how the Blazers have met that 500 seat requirement.
yes
i’m not sure how else you would expect that to work. seats are priced based on location in the arena and the cheap seats are all in the upper deck directly behind the baskets.
with season ticket holder and loyalty discount they would be i’d guess 7 to 8 bucks a game.
never mind i see what you mean now
this would seem to violate the rule unless there are 500 STH in the tans which i can’t imagine there are.
ya i dont know either.
ive tried 1st day of single ticket sales, another year i waited till day of game and was there 1st thing in the morning and was told they sold at a earlier date. dunno how they do it this year seems impossible. like i said below. Everybody has been boned by the blazers this time. single ticket, groups, seasonticket holders. mabey they priced the game at 10 and the others at variable pricing in the 12 game packs.
by Captain fruit on Sep 15, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow!!!
The “Elite” games are outrageous and the TR4 prices go below the individual ticket price for season ticket holders. I got the e-mail douglast referenced in this post, but I guess I didn’t look at it very carefully. Ridiculous pricing!!! Is the sell-out streak in jeopardy?
I have a pair of season tickets in the Orange section. I’m hoping to attend all 41 home games this year, but I’m happy to offer BEdgers my extra, single ticket for below my $34.00/game cost regardless of opponent. Some games are spoken for, but the majority are still available. My e-mail is in my profile.
Front Office
I honestly think the front office is taking advantage of our dedication and exploiting us for $$$. Made me irritated enough to come back to this post and “rant”. Kind of hope the sell-out streak ends just to send them a message
Am I reading this right?
Nose bleed seats for $50? That seems like a typo. But if not, I’m pretty angry about that. That’s where I can afford to sit most of the time. Why are the most expensive seats doubled and the cheap ones are more than 5x as expensive? Something distasteful about billionaires taxing the poor. I just won’t go.
by Sound_Automatic on Sep 13, 2010 7:49 PM PDT reply actions
couple follow-ups
very few games were at the tier 1 price. the Heat and both Laker games were all I saw. Yes, you will pay a premium for those games. If you think the price is outrageous, go to one of the other 35 or so games – lots of good teams there.
In the “mid-price” sections – fuschia to orange, 3 of the 4 pricing tiers were BELOW face value – that’s over 35 games right there, including many very good teams (OKC, Boston, Orlando, Denver, Utah, etc.) This is very good value right now, but no telling how long it will last.
I’m not defending the variable pricing model – but I understand it. Everyone wants to go to Lakers and Heat. That’s 3 of 41 games. It’s basic economics, and there are still 38 other games to choose from if one doesn’t want to pay the markup. Even at the inflated price, these 3 games sold out in less than an hour today – so obviously the price is working. People were willing to pay. If these tiers hold for the public sale, people are going to get great value on the next tier of teams. Nuggets, Thunder, Magic, Spurs are all selling below face value at many price points. Once the tickets sell out in a few weeks for those games, the secondary market is going to drive those ticket prices way up.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
by douglast on Sep 13, 2010 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I understand the model as well
and for the most part I don’t have a problem with it. Two things, though, gall at me:
1) As I mentioned before, the tan tickets only have 8 games that are actually sold for less than $10. To say that tickets have a $10 face value but only make 20% of them actually available for that face value is absolutely ridiculous! Every other color has 3 or 4 tiers that are below face value.
2) Why are the games against the Lakers and the heat in tier 1? Not because of the team but because of the individual players playing on those teams. But if Kobe is injured and doesn’t get to play on April 8, no attempt by ticket holders to get back that extra amount will be successful……
the April 8th game is the worst value of the year
i told every guy i knew in a ticket lottery that would listen NOT to draft that game. it’s a week and a half before the playoffs and the 2nd to last road game before season’s end.
it is highly unlikely kobe will play or that jackson would travel. LA will absolutely mail that game in, it’s easy to see.
Unless...
Portland and LA are in a race for home court advantage like they were in 2000.
How hot of a ticket would that game be then?
Granted, it’s far more likely that the Lakers have all but won the western conference at that point, so the game means nothing to them. But that chance that the game has playoff seeding implications… Sometimes you gotta gamble big to win big, right? ;-)
by Rodney Gustafson on Sep 15, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
udpates
added the 5th tier, indexed the current tier in effect for all 41 games.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
This is all part of their plan to encourage you to buy season tickets...
I think the best bet is to find someone to share season tickets with. That way you can pay $22 for a purple seat to the Lakers and not $75… Yikes.
Plus
In the email they sent to season ticket holders they said “In addition to first access, you will continue to enjoy the lowest price for any additional individual game tickets you choose to purchase.” Does that mean the tickets will be even higher to the general public?
I was unclear on that too
the language was ambiguous for sure.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
no
i bought extra miami seats and they were tier 1 price – $180 for blues.
I'm emailing my sales rep. If this tier pricing is true, then the tier pricing for tiers 4 & 5
is less than what I am paying for my season tickets. This doesn’t seem right.
Please email or call your season ticket sales rep if this is the case for your season tickets!!
I just spoke with the sales rep and he said “I will pass this on”. He said he agrees that season ticket holders price should be the base price. For the season, I am paying $140 more for tiers 4 & 5. While this doesn’t seem like a LOT, it also doesn’t seem fair.
Tier 3 tickets are just $2 more than I pay.
Really is making me evaluate whether I should continue to be a season ticket holder!
I noticed that too
I’m yellow corner, so only tier 5 are below my price. But still, that’s 8 games – about 20% of my total.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Similar case for mine
I’m just waiting to see if the general public price is the same as the pre-sale price. If so, that is garbage.
Gay4Roy: it is the same price for the public. At least that is the impression the sales rep gave me. He may not be
correct though.
we'll know in a week and a half
my feeling is that it is the same price (though they could change as demand and supply does – or so they say)
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Just what IS face value?
Last year my tickets did not have a price printed on them so there was no “face”. I don’t have my paperwork close at hand to do the math as to my cost per game. But that wouldn’t be fair to use my average cost because the people next to me might be getting a higher discount because they’ve had their tickets longer so their average would be less. Is it just an arbitrary number?
What really ticks me off (apologies if you discussed this last year because I probably missed it) – is that they didn’t exactly raise the prices of my seats, but they reclassed them. They added all sorts of new colors to the mix. When I first bought those seats they were Purple. The seats haven’t moved, the view is no better, but now they are Brown and cost more than Purple. It’s a business, but I hate the sneaky part. It’s not uncommon though. I just noticed that cans of tuna are now 5.5 oz rather than 6. They can state they haven’t raised their prices which may be the truth, but they’ve reduced what I get. Per oz. the price is up, per can it is not.
I think that the "lowest" tier price should be the same price as THE MOST RECENT price that season ticket holders
have to pay for a seat. I think that is what they were last year.
My seats were $65 apiece last year and this year they are $70 each for the blue section. This is my 3rd year as a season ticket holder. They were originally $58 apiece. They have gone up by 12% and 8% the past 2 years.
I think it is not fair that those who do not have season tickets of any kind will be able to pay less than full season ticket holders for both tier 4 & tier 5 games.
The sales rep I spoke to said he agreed with me. He said nothing along the lines of “these prices are only for the pre-season sales.” He said he would pass along what I said to him.
This is why anyone who is paying more for their tickets as season/1/2/1/4 season ticket holders need to speak to their sales reps and COMPLAIN.
are you really upset
that people will pay less to see minnesota and detroit then you paid per game, but you also get to see la, miami. orlando and boston at that same per game price when they have to pay a huge markup?
If you figure out your cost per game, then add up all the games for a person who bought every ticket at the variable pricing if your price is = to the per game price i will be on your side, but i am expectig you probably get around a 20% discount
#88
did the math
blue section season is 10% less than the total per game variable price. this doesn’t factor in loyalty discount, but it also doesn’t factor in the fact that you are forced to buy all 3 preseason games. The total savings for the 41 regular season games in blue section is $342. However, add back in $216 for the 3 preseason games, and the true savings for buying the whole season is just $126, plus any loyalty discount. Not much incentive there.
And the blue section is actually pretty good. Club 2 actually pays MORE for season tickets than per game, and club 1 and white corner are break even. White middle is 6%. But add in the preseason, and you lose on all 4 sections by buying season tickets.
The cheap seats provide the most incentive to be a STH – 41% in tan, 20% red and purple, 24% brown, 18% orange. green is 8% but break-even by factoring in the 3 preseason games. yellw is 6% but a losing proposition once you add the preseason games. yellow corner is 16% savings, but only about $250 total savings once you add the preseason. Fushsia and club corner are 11% and 10% respectively, but down to $199 and $139 total savings once you add preseason.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
posted my calculations above
net conclusion, outside of the 300 level (and even including the best seats there), you are at least equal, if not better off, by buying single game tickets to all 41 home games than you would be by being a season ticket holder (not accounting for loyalty discounts).
In essence then, what you are paying for is:
- guaranteed access, rather than having to fight to secure those 41 games playoff rights
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"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
playoff rights??
they wouldn’t give my dad and i playoff rights enless we bought season tickets for this year…
My dad was PISSSED
Notes to Broyposse: "Don't let him pull that move, Don't let him pull that move! That's the move! Ohhhhhhh that's the move!"
good point...
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
I talked with the sales rep again today. He said the variable pricing listed here is the price
season ticket holders pay this year, throughout the year. Even if a team moves up a tier, the season ticket holder will still pay the lower price for the ticket. The public’s pricing on variable priced tickets IS the lowest possible price for the season ticket holder in that section. For instance, for the BLUE SECTION, the LOWEST POSSIBLE PRICE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC’S PURCHASE IS $72. That is the highest possible price for a Blue section season ticket holder (who doesn’t have the loyalty discount)
So this was good to hear.
Didn’t think to ask, what happens should a team FALL in the tier pricing…does the season ticket holder benefit from this as well? Or do the prices stay the same regardless.
Found it hard to believe that the prices don’t change for the season ticket holder if the tier changes based on demand.
My sales rep gave me the wrong info the first time I spoke to him. This part of the info may be wrong this time around….
thanks for the follow-up
this is good to hear, but that last part of course is a key.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
they have no loyalty, ticket prices go up way more than the loyalty rewards
am i the only season ticket holder that feels like sueing the blazers for taking my money 6 months ago promising benefits then 6 months later they change the terms and price. same thing with group tix. first they started screwing the single ticket holder, then the group ticket buyers, and finally this year they screw the season ticket holder. the Big joke is on monday prices were listed under column titled Season Ticket Prices. that is not my season ticket price at all. it is the new scalped by blazers price. every year past i have bought extra tickets at season ticket prices so it should be no different this year especially when they name it such and dont bother to tell me of any changes untill after they take my money. i will be at every game again this year but truly. F… the Blazers!
furthermore.
the blazers are 1, One greg oden injury away from losing half their fans and going back to bargain basement pricing. anyone beg to differ? can roy bring a championship alone and is there any money to upgrade or another serious question is are the blazers competent enough to bring in any decent talent free agents or otherwise if they had the money. ill give them camby, dre mabey mathews. well see.
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