trade drawer - jamal crawford

by hugetrailblazerfan on Aug 5, 2010 8:58 PM PDT

I read on oregonlive the other day that Charles Barkley, attending a golf tournament, said the Blazers won't even be close to contending for a championship next season. The good news for Blazer fans is that Barkley said all last season the Cavs were going to win the championship.

In the same article my favourate player of all time Drexler, also attending the same golf tournament, said the Blazers are one veteran away from contending for next season's title. I agree. And it got me thinking of which veteran the Blazers could realistically add that would do that.

The only two players that came to mind were (1) Jamal Crawford and (2) OJ Mayo.

Jamal is my prefered player by far. He's a pacific northwest guy. He's great friends with Brandon Roy, they train together off season and have been talking about playing together for years. The Hawks aren't going anywhere. They won't be a top 4 side in the east. All Jamal needs is a few whispers in his ear from Roy (ala Wade to Bosh and James) to ask management for a trade. He only has one year left on his deal and has been asking for an extention. If he leaves next season the Hawks will likely receive nothing whereas a trade with the Blazers will get them quality players in return.

(1) Jamal to the Blazers for Pryzibilla, Fernandez, and either Elliot Williams or Jared Bayless. The Blazers could even throw in Claver and some cash. Paul Allen can afford it. We don't need Claver. Small Forwards in the NBA are a dime a dozen and the Blazers have heaps. I also think Jamal, Andre and Roy would make a sick three guard rotation.

What we don't want to do with Rudy is trade him for a first rounder. We grabbed two this draft, three are overseas and we'll no doubt have another next draft. Plus we have four second rounders from this draft and last. We need veterans not picks.

(2) I'm not as high on OJ as I am Jamal but the guy can shoot and score and would also make a great three guard rotation with Andre and Roy as he can play both backcourt positions... although he isn't adept at point guard just yet.

I'd trade Bayless, Rudy, Elliot Williams, and even Claver for him. The Memphis bench is their weakness. Rudy can slip right in at the two, plus they add quality young players to their team.

Who knows. I just hope this Cho guys makes some moves soon and they are great moves.

Go Blazers!!!

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Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Aug 5, 2010 9:11 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs

I don't see the motivation

by otherdave on Aug 5, 2010 9:43 PM PDT reply actions

When a veteran is discussed it usually means a senior player

someone with leadership gravitas and respect around the league. The two two guys you mention are damn good ballers but don’t rise to the level I’m describing. Think more along the lines of Gerald Wallace, John Salmons or Tony Parker. Those aren’t guys we necessarily want or need but the type veteran player that can lead your charge up the hill.

by oregonslee on Aug 5, 2010 10:31 PM PDT reply actions

"and even Claver for him"

NOOOOO!!! He is THE mising piece!

by Dub9 on Aug 5, 2010 11:33 PM PDT reply actions

OJ and Veteran in the same sentenceh

That’s a stretch.

Jamal is a Washington guy. If Atlanta does not sign him to an extension, and the rumor is they are working on one, I can see the Blazers pursuing him with the MLE next season.

At the trade deadline, the Blazers will be more able to trade for a veteran player (see Dallas last year with Caron and Haywood).

by ORDucktape on Aug 5, 2010 11:40 PM PDT reply actions

If we want a veteran

Then Jamal Crawford is the only one out of the two you mentioned. OJ has only been in the league for 2 years. With that said OJ is only 22 compared to Jamal being 30. I’d see the Hawks giving up Jamal before Memphis giving up OJ.

I wouldn’t be shocked by Crawford and I’d welcome it. Paul would be able as another Seattle connection will be on the team.

by Oden_Favre_28 on Aug 6, 2010 12:35 AM PDT reply actions

Crawford would be a great...

6th man for a Blazer team ready to make a DEEP playoff run.

Streaky shooter, good from the line and could play off Brandon at the end of games.

He could fill the Danny Ainge/Michael Cooper role for the Blazers.

by Rip City Reign on Aug 6, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions

Pryzbilla, Fernandez, Bayless, Clever, and Cash?

Do you really think it would take that much to get Crawford? Seems like Bayless, Pryzbilla would be a reasonable trade.

I do like the idea of Crawford’s offense in our second unit.

by ATeam on Aug 7, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Claver is nothing special

there were several recent stories on his time in the Spanish league to prove this.

by hugetrailblazerfan on Aug 6, 2010 12:35 AM PDT reply actions

Everyone is forgetting how O.J. Mayo plays

I know he is a huge scorer, but the idea of him at point guard is terrifying. I like Andre Miller, and he is half the ballhog that Mayo is. All the Miller haters would go so crazy they might start rooting for the Warriors.

Many posters on this website have mentioned OJ Mayo as a player with PG capabilities. This summer OJ, a near All-Star caliber player tried to play the point for a few games against draft picks and scout teams…… and was so bad the team quashed that idea within a week. Did not give him a week to work on it.

Do you think Nate could really brew a PG that all of us would approve of and appreciate for anything more than 19 pts 4 ast and 39% shooting? I dont

by therobophobe on Aug 6, 2010 8:30 AM PDT reply actions

I don’t think O.J. would be the long term answer at point, but I would love to have him as a sixth man. He can flat out score, shoot the three, and he’s great at getting steals. He would add the perfect scoring punch to Nate’s defensive 2nd unit.

by sevyms on Aug 6, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions

i remember some time back when stephen jackson was available from the warriors

B Roy vouched for stephen jackson and i think he would have been a good fit here. I guess its just another thing that KP missed that no one talks about.

by dmperry03 on Aug 6, 2010 9:17 AM PDT reply actions

Jackson would have been awesome!

But we have Matthews now, so he’d be redundant, though a bigger, veteran SF would be great, especially one with the ball-handling to play the 2.

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by HailOden! on Aug 6, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions

I always thought Maggette would be a amazing NateBall player

by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 8, 2010 2:00 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions

Aaron Brooks

He’s a local lad too, playing college at Oregon and has really stepped up.

I’ve read the Rockets ideally want a bigger PG and I think Brooks/Roy would look good in the backcourt

by Kernowblazer on Aug 6, 2010 10:48 AM PDT reply actions

brooks would be good. but i wouldnt give up too much for him cuz we do have miller

but i think if we trade for a pg it would have to be tony parker at a minimum

by dmperry03 on Aug 6, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Can we not agree on this?

A player needs to have been in the league at least 6/7 years to be considered a ‘veteran’.

by dbomb on Aug 6, 2010 6:21 PM PDT reply actions

I like some of your ideas

but I just can see Houston giving up Brooks. That guy can be an all star… and just might be this year.

Stephen Jackson would be unreal, but no way would Charlotte give him up… but anything can happen in the NBA. So who knows.

I guy I’d like to see the Blazers go after is Jason Terry. He’s a Seattle guy like Jamal Crawford. If the Blazers were to acquire those two guys then Cho is the real deal.

Just not sure what the Blazers would have to give up to get them. But with Boobwah breaking his foot, you never know. The Blazers definitely have a lot of assets.

by hugetrailblazerfan on Aug 7, 2010 12:38 AM PDT reply actions

Size

What the Rockets don’t like about Brooks is his size and have already made murmurings about wanting to get bigger at PG.

Bayless is much bigger than Brooks and ………….

by Kernowblazer on Aug 7, 2010 3:56 AM PDT up reply actions

ESPN Trade machine

….. and a trade of Bayless for Brooks is almost considered an equal deal.

A deal I could like would be to include the Bears and go

Rudy Fernandez to the Bulls for James Johnson and then Bayless and Johnson to the Rockets for Aaron Brooks and a draft pick plus a $2.3m trade exemption.

The Bulls get their SG, the Blazers get rid of Fernandez and get a PG of the future plus gain a draft pick and or trade exemption, and the Rockets get bigger at PG and a young forward to add fresh blood to an aging forecourt.

by Kernowblazer on Aug 7, 2010 4:08 AM PDT up reply actions

I don't see how Brook's ceiling is any higher than Bayless'

He’s a lot older, and I think his size will be an issue for us, even moreso than it has been for Houston. And JJ is a SF. They don’t need any youth there, as they already have Ariza and Chase Budinger.

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by HailOden! on Aug 7, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions

Brooks is already above Bayless ceiling.

Brooks shot 40% on 6.4 (!) attempts per game last year. He is lightening quick and had 5.3 assists per game (that’s 0.1 assists per game less than the make-everyone-better Miller). He shot 82% from the foul line last year and is 84% for his 3-year career. I wish he was bigger and a better defender, but he can stay in front of the fast PG’s and with Oden, Batum, Camby, and Joel around I’d take a chance on his size and defense. I’d love to see him and Roy play together, letting Brandon share the playmaking duties in the half court.

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by BlazerFanSince1970 on Aug 7, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Brooks would fit nicely next to Roy on offense...

but on defense it would be an abominable backcourt. Defense is one of the two things everyone talks about a PG needing to fit next to Roy, along with 3point shooting. Taking a chance on that is a much bigger risk given Roy’s lack.

Also, notice that Brooks played more minutes and in a faster pace than Miller.

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Aug 7, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions

I agree

I’d love to see Brooks next to Roy in our starting back court. 40% from 3pt, makes free throws, can penetrate and dish. Offensively, it would very nice.

Defensively, it wouldn’t be an improvement.

by ATeam on Aug 7, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions

I think Roy and Brooks would be an awesome offensive pairing that would bring out the best of both players.

I don’t think the defense would be an improvement either, but I’m not a fan of Miller’s defense, so I’m not sure it would get much worse. It is also possible that it could help Oden, because Brooks can stay in front and cut off the quicker PGs better.

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by BlazerFanSince1970 on Aug 7, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions

I agree too

I’d love the blazers to get brooks. I don’t exactly know what houston would want in return though. maybe bayless, money, the rights to claver and future picks. who knows. he’d be worth that package for sure. since brooks isn’t exactly a defensive stopper, like gary payton, I wouldn’t mind the blazers trading miller and rudy in some sort of package for hinrich too. he can guard both backcourt positions and is an elite defender who doesnt hog the ball.

by hugetrailblazerfan on Aug 7, 2010 10:03 PM PDT reply actions

How 'bout we keep Rudy...

then trade Miller, Pryzbilla, and Pendy to get Calderon and Varajao. Peep it: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2855bya

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by shwa on Aug 8, 2010 11:29 AM PDT reply actions

How 'bout we keep Przy?

I didn’t want to trade him anyway, but after reading the interview with Mike Barrett, I really don’t want him traded.

by ictoagsn on Aug 8, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions

I'd say that's a pretty good trade.

My only beef is that we’re giving up all the expiring contracts in this deal.

I’d like to get a better player at than Calderon, but he would make sense. Low turnovers and if you consider Bayless to replace him as a starter soon, he would be a productive piece on the bench.

The other parts of the trade make some sense too. Cleveland wants to remain competitive, Golden St. is apparently looking to move both Monta and Biedrins and Toronto has a gigantic hole at center.

This is a pretty good attempt.

by parkinglotj on Aug 8, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions