Trade Drawer August 17 + 4 Team Deal

by sabonis11 on Aug 16, 2010 11:10 PM PDT

Yeah, I know that it's still the 16th, but I wanted to post this and couldn't find another Trade Drawer, but I wanted people to look at it past this evening, so I made it for tomorrow. Anyways, this is how my trade goes:

Trade Machine: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2bjyq3s

SAC

Sends: Carl Landry

Recieves: Marvin Williams and Zaza Pachulia

Rationale: Sac is set in the front court and really just need depth.

ATL

Sends: Jamaal Crawford, Mike Bibby, Al Hortford, Zaza Pachulia, and Marvin Williams

Receives: Elton Brand, LaMarcus Aldridge, and Andre Miller

Rationale: Atlanta has long wanted a big body, and they get one in Elton Brand, they also get another scoring forward in Aldridge, and also the perfect PG for their system in Miller. With Aldridge or Brand coming off the bench, they'd be able to make up for the scoring punch lost without Crawford.

PHI

Sends: Elton Brand, Lou Williams,

Receives: Joel Pryzbilla, Jarred Bayless, Rudy Fernandez, and Mike Bibby.

Rationale: Philly wants to lose Brand, save some money, and usher in a new era. They get some players who can hold down the fort until their contracts expire, plus Bayless and Rudy are good fits with the rest of the team. Bibby provides experience and some desperately needed shooting, Pryz fills a hole left by Dalembert.

POR

Sends: LaMarcus Aldridge, Jarred Bayless, Rudy Fernandez, Andre Miller, and Joel Pryzbilla

Receives: Lou Williams, Al Hortford, Carl Landry, and Jamaal Crawford

Rationale:

Well just look at the depth chart!

PG: Lou Williams/Jamaal Crawford/Armon Johnson

SG: Brandon Roy/Wesley Matthews

SF: Nic Batum/Dante Cunningham/Luke Babbitt

PF: Al Hortford/Carl Landry/Jeff Pendegraph

C: Greg Oden/Marcus Camby

I think this is a big win for Portland. For those of you wary about Lou, it's understandable, but his PER equals Andre's (18.4) and 14 ppg, 4 apg, and 1 spg while shooting 33% from 3 isn't terrible either. This vaults us into contention with the addition of another All-Star and 3 six man of the year candidates.

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No from ATL and SAC

ATL – wouldn’t take Brands contract just to downgrade from Horford to Aldridge. Plus they give away Zaza and Crawford. No chance.

SAC – Could go for it if they think they are losing Landry at years end but even then they can do better than Zaza (serviceable) and Williams (overpaid).

Nice try though – I want Horford too, just don’t think he’ll be easy to get.

by MadBlaze on Aug 16, 2010 11:38 PM PDT reply actions

Good point. I assumed picks and the like will be thrown around, but even then probably not enough.

I do think that ATL would like to unload Bibby and William’s contracts, especially after signing Johnson. LA would probably be a better fit in that system too . Plus, Dre is perfect for that team. Plus I like that we’d be trading him to a good team instead of some scrub team.

by sabonis11 on Aug 16, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Here's a variation

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=25pgco6

by sabonis11 on Aug 16, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions

I agree that the A.T.L. would not go for this

Not sure about Sac.

GOP in HD

by 22baylor on Aug 17, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions

Too much money/years locked up in the 4 position for ATL

by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 17, 2010 12:04 AM PDT reply actions

Yeah, no way Atlanta takes on that much salary.

They’ll say no.

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Aug 17, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions

They also shed Bibby and Willams' salaries. Plaus Dre's contract expires.

by sabonis11 on Aug 17, 2010 12:29 AM PDT reply actions

A swap of LaMarcus and Al "Snow" Horford actually might be discussed. Problem is ATL would still need a new center at some time.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=272frx5

And I doubt Shaq or Kwame would cut it. And even in a motion offense Horford or LaMarcus aren’t ideal centers.

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by Norsktroll on Aug 17, 2010 4:59 AM PDT reply actions

PER doesn't take defense into account and Lou is a terrible, terrible, defender.

I would rather start Travis Diener at PG.

by Nick Van Excellent on Aug 17, 2010 7:45 AM PDT reply actions

No thanks

If we are going to trade half our team, it should at least be for a superstar. I’d rather have Aldridge than Horford. Horford has peaked in my opinion and Aldridge is still the better player. Also, I have never been a fan of Crawford’s game. Or Lou Williams for that matter, they actually strike me as very similar.

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by koyote on Aug 17, 2010 11:00 AM PDT reply actions

I like Crawford for the Blazers. I don’t like the way you’re getting him for us, though.

GOP in HD

by 22baylor on Aug 17, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions

I like Williams more

Crawford is a black hole. Lou at least gets you a few assists.

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by koyote on Aug 17, 2010 11:21 AM PDT reply actions

meant for ^

"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice

by koyote on Aug 17, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions

this made my head hurt….

kObe iS thE aNtiChRiSt

by Brendan Holladay on Aug 17, 2010 8:17 PM PDT reply actions

My latest attempt at a productive gutting of our current roster

I don’t want to do it unless its worthwhile, but this would be worthwhile.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=23m7a2c

Philly – Batum is the centerpiece for them, he is a better fit with Turner and far cheaper than Iggy. Rudy would bolster their 3pt shooting, Przy and Crawford are both guys who could start and keep them competitive but also both expire, giving them flexibility to rebuild around their youth.

Atlanta – Give up Horford, who they might have trouble resigning if the JJ deal left them strapped for cash, and Crawford, who they might have qualms about resigning, but get rid of Bibby in the process. LA is another big who is great in transition and with Josh Smith beside him and Andre running the point, the Haws could become a potent offensive team who can still be decent defensively.

Memphis – Give up Conley, who has been a disappointment for them, for Bayless. Bayless is an attacking guard who would fit well next to Mayo (even if they’d be a little undersized).

Portland – This deal would make us instant contenders. A Conley/Roy/Iggy/Horford/Oden starting lineup with Bibby/Matthews/Camby as primary reserves is more than talented and deep enough to take on the Lakers and Heat. On the downside, we would have both Horford and Oden to extend or negotiate deals with following the season and with their deals added to what Roy, Iggy and Camby already make, we would be in tax hell for years to come.

I think every team could be OK with this, although Atlanta would be the most likely to say no IMO.

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by MadBlaze on Aug 18, 2010 4:47 AM PDT reply actions