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Blazersedge Scrubdown: Matchup #5

The Blazersedge Scrubdown continues today.  If you don't know what's going on, read the block-quote in this post.  Basically we've made a bracket out of Blazers nobody mentions as key figures but who were notable, however briefly and for whatever reason, during their Portland tenure.  We're narrowing it down to figure out our favorite lesser-known player of all time.  You can use any criteria you wish in casting your vote for one of today's two players, though emphasis should remain on their time as a Blazer.  Leave a comment below with your favored players' name in the subject line and whatever explanation you wish in the body of the post.

Today's matchup:  Fred Jones versus Sergio Rodriguez.  Whose cuisine will reign supreme?  Vote now.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com) 

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freddie jones

he could dunk

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt

by thomasikehara on Aug 10, 2010 10:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Freddie is a former Duck

So he wins.

Porter, Drexler, Kersey, Williams, Duckworth. The greatest starting 5 ever.

by Bib Fortuna on Aug 10, 2010 10:17 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Jarrett Jack, er I mean Freddie Jones

Matty Walker: You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man. - Body Heat (1981)

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Aug 10, 2010 10:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

He won’t get himself on the highlights, but he will make you front and center.

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by staylost on Aug 10, 2010 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Freddie Jones

I went to High School with the guy and even got dunked on a few times in intramurals. He was a good guy. I remember the day before he was drafted he bummed a dollar off my friend for a candy bar. My friend was cracking up because he was going to be a millionaire the next day.

by zbrum on Aug 10, 2010 10:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey, I went to high school with him too

Interviewed him once for the student paper. I’m obviously also on his side in this matchup.

by Charon on Aug 11, 2010 5:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

My interpretation

This is one guy with split personalities and they both have accounts but don’t know each other.

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Aug 11, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

phew, that's a relief

I was starting to get confused.

by zbrum on Aug 11, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Nice to see you, Hopkins. Long time no see.

by zbrum on Aug 12, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Likewise

Look me up on FB sometime, we’ll catch up.

by Charon on Aug 13, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rodriguez

Jones was (is?) as steadier player, but Rodriguez could take over — and/or potentially lose — games. On the whole, that’s more entertaining to me, especially from a bench player the team isn’t really counting on for much.

by Shawno on Aug 10, 2010 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Fred Jones

Sergio was just awful in so many ways. Fred was solid.

by travis13 on Aug 10, 2010 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Definitely Freddie Jones

In a fan favorite contest anyday – Freddie was by far the more entertaining of the two.

All day baby, all day!

by LMA All Day on Aug 10, 2010 10:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Nobody drummed up conversation like Sergio.

Both were fun while they were here, but I’ll remember the well-made (and not-so-well-made) arguments better than the neat-o-ness of having a hometown boy in the red and black.

"[S]ince men enjoyed very great leisure, they used it to pursue many kinds of commodities unknown to their fathers, and that was that first yoke they placed upon themselves without thinking about it, and the first source of evils the prepared for their descendants. For, besides continuing thus to soften body and mind, as these commodities had lost almost all their pleasantness through habit, and as they had at the same time degenerated into true needs, being deprived of them became much more cruel than possessing them was sweet; and people were unhappy to lose them without being happy to have them." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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by T Darkstar on Aug 10, 2010 10:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I gotta vote for El Chacho on this one

Spanish Chocolate may have been one of the most polarizing Blazers in recent history, but he could deliver a pass on a dime, and when his confidence was high could really affect the game.

I like both players, but Freddie was only here for a third of a season and, while a steady player, didn’t really affect the team the same as Sergio did.

Plus Sergio got us Pendy. Pendy = Awesomeness!

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Aug 10, 2010 10:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I was never known as a Sergio fan

But I vote for Sergio.

Freddie Jones was ah’ight, but he couldn’t shoot and was barely on the team. Sergio is a part of many nice moments.

Mortimero

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by Mortimer on Aug 10, 2010 11:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow, this is a tough one

I actually like both players. Sergio brought some fun (and great alley-oops) to the team, regardless of how it ended. Freddy Jones gave up a year of his contract to come to Portland, only to have Portland trade him shortly after, and could dunk of course.

Hrm.

Sergio wins. He was part of the trio who helped bring some hope back to Blazer fans (Along with the more-important Brandon and LaMarcus). His first season was more memorable than Freddy Jones’ short stint here.

by Timmay! on Aug 10, 2010 11:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Freddy Jones!

Agree with Bib up above – gotta vote for the Duck!

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by Mr. Knox on Aug 10, 2010 11:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Freddy!

Oregon all the way through.

by VTDuck on Aug 11, 2010 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

sir, gee, ohhhhhh

Jeff Pendergraph:
FGM - 3
FGA - 111
Min - 30
Reb - 10

by Tofu Anonymous on Aug 10, 2010 11:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Kinda like most Presidential elections...

It’s lesser of two evils situation… I don’t want either one but if I had to choose I’d pick Freddie. Mainly because of the Duck connection.

by Ilikeemall on Aug 10, 2010 11:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

because he was here so much longer. I was lucky enough be on the 100 level for what was then called his “breakout game”. He was totally in the zone and it was awesome. So was the crowd. Unfortunately we expected that from him every time and it just didn’t materialize. The anticipation was fun though. Too bad reality set in.

by jorga on Aug 10, 2010 11:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

For all his faults, I enjoyed watching him look up the floor.

by Cyclops at Midcourt on Aug 10, 2010 11:40 PM PDT reply actions  

El Chacho

This scrubdown victory will be his last trick.

by HowlinJoeWolf on Aug 10, 2010 11:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

because Spain is a fun country

"We are building a fighting force of extraordinary magnitude. We forge our tradition in the spirit of our ancestors. You have our gratitude." - Rich Cho

by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 11, 2010 12:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

For giving us Rudy’s rookie year.

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by MadBlaze on Aug 11, 2010 12:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

Back to back alley oops to Travis!!!

by cantdunk on Aug 11, 2010 12:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

He was here longer and did more.

However, I really respect Fred Jones because he left a bigger contract behind to join the Blazers.

by jayfisher on Aug 11, 2010 1:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Jones

He wanted to be on the team, unlike crybaby Sergio. Jones made a sacrifice to be on the team and KP screwed him over. Fred Jone’s number should be retired.

by tominhawaii on Aug 11, 2010 4:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Truth

Kp did screw him, Freddie was great, would’ve been nice to have had him around for awhile. Nobody was sad when the door hit serge.

by doomsdaymachine on Aug 11, 2010 4:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm glad SOMEBODY remembers this.

I was just in the infancy of my Blazers fandom when Fred came on the team during that deadline move of Juan Dixon to the Raptors. I was all newb-homer-y about Freddie being on the team… I didn’t really even know who he was all that well, but it seemed great to have an local guy on the team like Ime etc. Especially with the “feel good” story about him forgoing the last 3mil on his contract so he could play for his hometown team.

Then get kicked to the knicks after two months of benchwarming? Seriously… that was lame. I mean, “It’s a business” and all… but it just felt like a double-cross.

That being said, I would have to vote for Sergio just because I think for this contest we’re talking Blazer time only, not college days right? And whatever Fred Jones was capable of doing on the court, he didn’t actually get a chance to do it for us. Sergio, for all his flaws, managed to create some magic when he was on the court with Rudy. Although it’s looking like neither Spaniard was meant to be with us, I will always appreciate the highlights.

Like the Whos down in Whoville they did it without boxes or ribbons or bows, they did without centers or posting down low. They won without All-Stars and Spaniards and Frenchmen. They won with old geezers and sub-par defense-men. They won playing rookies from deep off the benches. They won with their grit and their guts in the trenches. And some who observed them have been known to say that their hearts grew three sizes (at least!) on the way. One hopes with their poise and their passion now proven that once they are healthy their game will be groovin'. -- Dave

by conspirator5 on Aug 11, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fred Jones

"Talk's cheap, we all know that. It's like I've always said - 'don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."

-Buddy Nix

by billsfan4life on Aug 11, 2010 5:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Sergio!

and it’s not even close to me.

Jones being from the University of Nike Bucks just makes it even easier.

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein

by BmoreBlazer on Aug 11, 2010 5:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

He made Rudy excitable.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Aug 11, 2010 5:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Spanish Chocolate

Worse nickname ever… but he gets my vote. No white pass-first point guard got me more excited than Senor Sergio. Except maybe Nash. Ooh and badass Stockton. Ooh and the original White Chocolate.

Ok so he’s not that exciting. But Sergio still get’s my vote. Hey didn’t Fred Jones win the dunk comp one year?

by LMA on Aug 11, 2010 6:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Fred Jones

"He's not your Vydas or my Vydas, he's Arvydas."

by Petro4Three on Aug 11, 2010 6:37 AM PDT reply actions  

FJ

decided to forgo his contracted option year to come here, $2.3 mill.
Steve Patterson touted him, and then KP shipped him, thus proving that no good deed goes unpunished.

It’s a Sympathy vote, as Sergio spent so much energy feeling sorry for himself, that it made it difficult for anyone else to sympathize w/ him, plus his shot sucked. He never appeared to put in the hard work. He obviously had language issues which made finding the weight pile difficult. His game was soft, and his dedication in question.

by damonrayhymer on Aug 11, 2010 7:04 AM PDT reply actions  

The Spanish Magic Chocolate from Tenerife

"Listening to the media only increases your odds of failing at whatever you are doing" - Mark Cuban

by Norsktroll on Aug 11, 2010 8:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Freddie Jones

from Barlow High School and the U of O. He played above the rim and shot 3s – Sergio did none of those things. – Elgin

GOP in HD

by 22baylor on Aug 11, 2010 8:04 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Jones

because he actually wanted to be a Blazer up until he was traded

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Aug 11, 2010 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

Go Beavers

fearless controlled aggression

by sammymohawk on Aug 11, 2010 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

WOW...Now we're getting to the tough ones - Fred Jones - former duck

Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. - 'The Sports Guy' Bill Simmons

by doublezeroduck on Aug 11, 2010 8:38 AM PDT reply actions  

sergio

who cares about college.. at all

by collectiveshane on Aug 11, 2010 9:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Fred Jones

I love my Ducks! What a baller

Portland > Tacoma

by CaptainSexyJacob on Aug 11, 2010 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Freddy

Duck duck duck duck duck

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by pualo on Aug 11, 2010 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

The clothes he wore were pure awesomeness and more entertaining then both players games.

by RuQ on Aug 11, 2010 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

He made Rudy care.

"I have contract with Portland.... I have contract with Portland... I have contract with Portland." - Rudy Fernandez

by Kroes32 on Aug 11, 2010 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

Fred Jones did what? Other than be a Duck?

by Switchie on Aug 11, 2010 12:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

Loved all the alley oops. Not Nate’s style but fun to watch. Maybe Nate’s style not so fun to watch.

by desperationshot on Aug 11, 2010 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

He was fun to watch, he could completely change the tone and tempo of a game, and he had a profound effect on Rudy that wasn’t fully realized until after he left.

by Kede23 on Aug 11, 2010 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

and it is only because of the last 8 minutes of the season when he was throwing outlaw lobs from mid court

ALLLL Rudy Then!!!!!

by Miker Blazer on Aug 11, 2010 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

freddy

Sergio was way to raw and turnover prone

by RipCityforLife on Aug 11, 2010 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Sergio

Pretty surprising for me since I was not one of the fans that thought he got a raw deal from Nate. I still hoped he could develop into something special. His court vision was simply amazing but he didn’t seem to be able to expand on his game. Still, on a scrub team, he would at least make it exciting.

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by tssbro on Aug 11, 2010 6:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

SERGIOOOOOOO!

Only Blazer jersey I’ve ever owned. ’Nuff said. (I may be biased considering that I share his surname)

But come on, Sergio was the subject of too much controversy and fun debate to not win this matchup.

by kickbrass on Aug 11, 2010 7:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Freddy

People, it’s really not even close

by Three Match Ban on Aug 11, 2010 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll go with Jones

Sergio had more of a flashpowder existence. But I’ll go with Jones.

I’ve noticed now in a few of these scrubdowns that people seem to be factoring in “who we got in trade for (scrub x)” as a factor in choosing one guy over another. Now Dave does say you can use any criteria you wish but the emphasis should be on their time as a Blazer. Once a trade commodity do we really count that as time as a Blazer?

Does quite seem fair, as often a player has little control over what or whom they are used to obtain in a trade. If who we got in trade for a scrub becomes a major piece of evaluation then woe be it when we reach Walter Berry.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Aug 13, 2010 7:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Jones

I would like to vote “neither”, but will just take Jones as he was a Duck.

by stevecolterssocks on Aug 23, 2010 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

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