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2010 Las Vegas Summer League Preview

Coach Kaleb Canales and second year players Dante Cunningham and Jeff Pendergraph lead the Blazers into this year's Summer League.  

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No question about it: Summer League has taken a serious backseat to free agency this year, both here in Portland and league-wide.  While the mantra around the Blazers has been "it's time to improve through trades and free agency" don't lose sight of the fact that they added two first round picks, a highly-touted second round pick and are bringing three roster players from last year into Las Vegas.  Add that all up -- even taking into account an injured Elliot Williams -- and it would be foolish to overlook this year's Summer League entirely.

There are a few obvious storylines. What have Dante Cunningham and Jeff Pendergraph added to their games? How do Patty Mills and Armon Johnson look and are they battling for a roster spot?    Does Luke Babbitt look ready to step in and play real minutes behind Nicolas Batum this year?  Are Johnson -- who the team sees as a one -- and Babbitt -- who the team likely needs to play three -- able to handle the demands of those positions? 

Keeping Dave's Summer League primer in mind, it's unlikely we'll get definitive answers to all of those questions.  But what goes on during the five games in Las Vegas gets added to the team's portfolio on all of these guys.  With a new GM coming in, every player on the roster will be re-assessed.  That exercise will be valuable for us as well.

The goal of this preview is two-fold.  First, I'll look at where Pendergraph , Cunningham, Babbitt, Johnson and Mills are as players right now.  Then, I'll take a look -- with the help of Summer League coach Kaleb Canales -- at where the team wants these guys to be heading into next season.  

For a slideshow of images from this week's practices, click here.

Click through for the full rundown.  

-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter

PS If there is anything in particular that you would like to see from this year's Summer League coverage from Las Vegas -- games begin Sunday, coverage begins Monday -- do not hesitate to shoot me an email.

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Jeff Pendergraph

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Where's He At?

Jeff Pendergraph was one of the nicer surprises last year, as no one -- himself included -- expected him to play many minutes. But injuries to Greg Oden and Joel Przybilla opened up a crevice in Portland's frontcourt and Pendergraph responded admirably when called upon.

Pendergraph brought energy every night but not always consistent quality or impact. He finished very well around the basket, often with emphasis.  He was extremely coachable and anxious to learn, both from his teammates and the coaching staff. He was fearless in mixing it up with opponents (as pictured above).

The Blazers have always questioned whether Pendergraph is a power forward or an undersized center at the NBA level. He saw some time at both spots and he displayed some clear limitations.  His overall lack of polish and range on the offensive end limited his impact to that of a rebounding specialist.  His lack of height and elite length/timing led to a lot of fouls on the defensive end to the point where he struggled to stay on the court at times.

For more on Pendergraph, check out Brother Wendell Maxey's post from earlier this week

Where's He Going?  

With the mid-season addition of (and contract extension for) Marcus Camby and the expected return of Oden, Pendergraph is set for a big fight for minutes this year.  He's the team's fifth big man right now and that's not including the injured Joel Przybilla.  

His path to minutes is pretty clear: add wrinkles on offense and cut down on the fouling.  Canales said the Blazers will look to get the ball to Pendergraph in half-court play to test his development on the offensive end.  "There will be court time for him to expand his game. Offensively the challenge is scoring out of the post.  Back to the basket, face up, and get his reads off of that."  In other words, jump hooks or step throughs from Pendergraph will be good signs.  Collapsing a team's interior defense and finding the open man will be an added bonus, as will drawing fouls and getting to the free throw line.   

While fouling out really isn't a problem in Summer League given the 10 foul limit, the Blazers will keep an eye on how he handles opponents in one-on-one situations.  Canales made it clear that the team doesn't want Pendergraph -- or any of the players -- to worry about fouls, but that the goal for Pendergraph on the defensive end is "to be aggressive without fouling."

Dante Cunningham

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Where's He At?

It's been awhile since I've written about Dante Cunningham and you're probably grateful, as I tend to gush.  Like Pendergraph, Cunningham was a pleasant surprise who enjoyed some nice development in the wake of injuries to Nicolas Batum and Travis Outlaw.  Cunningham has gotten knocked for getting stuck between positions but I think the effect is muted somewhat with the increasing prevalence of stretch fours around the league and Cunningham's ability to reasonably handle guys who are both bigger and smaller than him on the defensive end.

The Blazers asked virtually nothing from Cunningham on the offensive end last year, other than to take and make wide-open mid-range jumpers and to run the floor on the rare transition play.  Defensively, he guarded a wide variety of players and was used both in man-to-man and zone looks.  An extremely intelligent player with good footwork, deceptive strength and a very good sense of spacing and timing, Cunningham gave McMillan the opportunity to throw a monkey wrench at wing scorers.  If there was a drawback to his game defensively it was that he could be overpowered on the block and didn't alter a ton of shots in one-on-one situations. 

Where's He Going?  

For the time being, Cunningham slots in above Pendergraph on the team's depth chart heading into next year and will see time both at the three and four.  Canales singled out Cunningham for praise today, saying he had had a "great camp" this week which should hopefully get your mouth watering.

Canales said that, like Pendergraph, he is looking for more from Cunningham on the offensive end.  "I think Dante's offensive game has been expanding," he noted, adding that Cunningham has extended his range and is even more confident shooting the face-up shot.  But the Blazers will be watching what else Cunningham can do with the ball. When Cunningham gets the ball in pick-and-roll situations or touches generated through sets, for example, they want to see him applying pressure to his defender.  "Really not [automatically] settling for that jumpshot," Canales said. "Him driving and attacking the basket. All the way to the rim."  Cunningham has an underrated ability to elevate, which he displayed a few times last year.  If he has found out how to harness that skill to consistently get buckets it could make for an entertaining week.

Defensively it sounds like what we've seen is what we should be expecting.  "He's very versatile," Canales said. "I think he's going to keep growing with that."  Today we saw Cunningham as the front man in a 3/4 court soft press (pictured above) and he looks to be in very good shape, moving quickly and assertively. In the halfcourt sets, keep an eye on how Cunningham and Babbitt alternate assignments.  Who gets the other team's premier scorer? How often will they cross match-up?  Those could be potential tip offs for rotation roles next season.  

Luke Babbitt

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Where's He At?

Putting up obscene numbers at a smaller school that didn't have a ton of success, Luke Babbitt was a polarizing prospect for a lot of NBA scouts.  Can he play small forward?  Is he more of a stretch four?  Can he defend anyone?  Those are open questions.  But no one doubts his ability to shoot the ball.  He can stroke it and he has been able to find his own shot up to this point.  He's also known as a worker, a smart kid and he comes across extremely eager.  There are always certain NBA players that have a "living their dream" vibe.  He's one of those guys. 

After watching practices this week, I think Babbitt is the biggest question mark for the team this year.  Put it this way: there wouldn't be talk about Wesley Matthews or Roger Mason if the team was completely convinced that Babbitt was ready to step in and play big minutes at the three or potentially start should Nicolas Batum go down to injury.  Those kinds of expectation are tough for any rookie on a team that expects to win 50+ games.  

Honestly, at times this week he's looked exhausted and a little confused.  He's been grabbing for his shorts and getting extra instruction from coaches afterwards.  But his shot is pure money.  And, throughout the portions of play we've been able to see, he hasn't hesitated to shoot it.   

Where's He Going?  


While Canales had very specific goals for both Pendergraph and Cunningham, his hope for Babbitt was much simpler.  "I'd just like to see Luke play. Play to his strengths, come out and have fun, and take it game by game. Be aggressive. Both offensively and defensively. Get up and guard some people."

Personally, I want to see Babbitt come out gunning.  I think there will be some players that are really looking to test him on the defensive end and I'd like to see him answer that doing what he does best, and doing it confidently.  I'd much rather we come out of next week asking "Should he pass more?" rather than "Is he too passive?"  It boils down to whether he trusts his skills at this level.  That's what will earn him playing time and Nate McMillan's trust.

Defensively, Canales admitted that "it's going to be a challenge" for Babbit given the different types of players the Blazers will ask him to guard.  He noted that Babbitt has been guarding Reyshawn Terry, a dynamic offensive player with "good size and strength", this week and that's served him well. "He might see speed guys too," Canales said, sounding more prepared than worried.  "For him it's going to be a daily challenge. But he's been great this week." Given that Babbitt will see far more reserve players than starters next season, the big keys will be effort and positioning.  Regardless of the results, is he trying hard and doing the right things?  

Armon Johnson

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Where's He At?

The Blazers see Armon Johnson as a big, physical point guard who can get to the basket but needs to work on his shot.  They see him being able to defend either guard position at the NBA level but they hope he transforms into a big, pure point guard.  Aside from his shaky shot and lack of range, there are also questions about his ability to run and intuitively understand an NBA offense and read NBA defenses.  These questions face virtually every young point guard coming into the NBA.  Johnson doesn't lack for confidence, which could turn into a really good thing or a really bad thing.  That's what Summer League is all about.


The Blazers plan to use him both on the ball and off the ball next week and it will be interesting to see how that works itself out. Johnson wants to make a name for himself as a team-leading, all-around point guard but the baskets might come more easily when he's taking his man off the dribble while playing the two guard spot. How does he react and adjust?


Where's He Going?  


Points of emphasis for Johnson will be shot selection, limiting turnovers and making the proper reads.  "W
e don't want [the point guards] to be out there thinking too much," Canales said. "If they have a shot, we want them to shoot.  If they see a play for a teammate we want them to make that play."


But g
iven the team's depth chart for next year, with scorers throughout the second unit, playmaking rather than shooting would seem to be the preference. 
"F
inding offensively where he can look for his teammates and where he can be aggressive on his own will be the challenge," Canales said.  Will Johnson be able to find Babbitt in his sweet spots?  Will his driving ability lead to dunks for Cunningham and Pendergraph?  Will there be a flow to the offense when he's on the court?  How (and how well) does he make pick-and-roll reads?   

Overall, Canales seemed optimistic.  "Armon has a great pace to his game. He's smooth with the ball." 

Right now both Johnson and Mills are under consideration for the third string point guard spot.  I have been acting under the assumption that Johnson holds the inside track given how much money the Blazers spent to move up and draft him. But it's no secret Paul Allen is a Patty Mills fanboy and Mills is probably more seasoned right now.  The goal for Johnson is to do enough next week to make the Blazers comfortable with the thought that Mills is expendable.


Patty Mills

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Where's He At?

Patty Mills is in by far the best shape of his short Blazers career after recovering to 100% health and playing serious minutes for the Australian national team in preparation for the 2010 World Championships in Turkey.  He's drawn rave reviews from coaches and teammates during this week's camp and it's clear that he is viewing Summer League as a showcase for his abilities, an opportunity he lost last year due to a foot injury.  


Mills has looked very quick on the ball in the limited action we've seen and he's been looking to push it every chance he's had.  His shot and range were always considered strengths of his game and they are said to have improved.  His obvious limitation is his small stature, which makes him something of a defensively liability.  Also, there's the issue of turnovers.  He forced some passes into traffic during today's scrimmage that would get him a quick hook from McMillan. 

Where's He Going?  

Mills has felt like a square peg in a round hole here in Portland, given the differences between his skillset and McMillan's philosophy. Canales said there will be plenty of minutes for Mills to show he can do what McMillan will ask of him. "Patty just needs that court time and confidence, to get more comfortable on the court and his game will continue to grow. His speed and his shot -- his shot has really improved a lot. We're looking for him to be even more aggressive with that."

A best case scenario for Mills is that he impresses enough that another NBA team decides he should be their backup point guard.  His skill level is such that fighting for third string minutes here in Portland is not ideal.  Barring that, playing big overseas might afford him a better opportunity than another year buried in Portland.  But that's looking a little too far ahead, at least for now.  His first and longest look will come from the Blazers.  If he shows the ability to run an offense, limit turnovers and handle things defensively, Portland's interest will perk up.  If not, hopefully he will at least provide some of the offensive fireworks that were reserved for NBDL fans last season. 

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It will be interesting to see how the point guards play

I know the summer league doesn’t matter but I think it’s important that the Blazers find the point guard of the near future ASAP.

by tominhawaii on Jul 9, 2010 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Hiiiiii Tommy!

there’s a bobblehead live action video in the fanshots which I enjoyed, because I like imagining other people’s lives, but mostly it screamed to be redone by you as a play-dohquel.

hope you are well

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by Honka Playboy on Jul 9, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

As much as I like what Bayless brings, I’m now firmly in the ’he’s not the answer at starting PG for the Blazers’ camp. The start of my transition into this camp was last year in Summer League, where you could literally see in his eyes that he was trying too hard to think about what to do next. It’s not in his nature to be a pass-first PG all the time. I’m not saying he can’t be a distributor off the bench – he can. And I think his best role is that first guard off the bench, playing either the 1 with Roy (who will run the offense as a 2) or as a penetrating 2. But put him into the position where he feels that he HAS to distribute, and he’s out of his comfort zone and ineffective. As I said, it all began with Summer League – not the final answer, but an important indication. This year’s might bring the same.

I don’t know if there’s room for both Mills and Johnson, so let them compete! I am not putting faith in either to be the ‘PG of the future’, but then again…

by Storyteller on Jul 9, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

C'mon Kramer

by the end of the Sun’s series Jerryd had lost most of that hesitation and was running the team confidently when ‘Dre was out of the game. I was seriously down on Bayless-as-PG after last summer, but he had to be the team’s most-improved player last year, hands down. Let’s give Rex a chance to play alongside Roy (without another PG out on the floor) for half a season at least before “moving on” and anointing Mills or Johnson as the next big thing

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by two4larue on Jul 9, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

considering the most improved player award

was limited to two guys basically because everyone else’s development was cut short due to injuries that is not saying too much! but I take your point. I just look at Jerryd and see 2 guard. Trying to make him a 1 just not play to his strengths. Picking up those skills will improve his overall game, but can he ever be better at point than as a 2? Don’t we want players playing to there strengths? that seems to be the formula to success, getting players that play to their strengths that, in turn, as a team meshes into a real contender. Forcing talented players into roles that are not their strengths does not really seem to be the formula for success over time.

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by PDXBuckeye on Jul 10, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't follow your logic.....

Why make up your mind based on year old information that wasn’t all that reliable or predictive to begin with? Whatever your impression of the six games played in SL last summer with a group of scrubs, including two SGs who were something like 3-28, why would that outweigh his performance in the playoffs against Nash and Dragic?

Bayless had a PER of 15.7 in the freaking playoffs. Shot 45%, 40% from three, had an AST% of 27.9 and an AST/TO of 3:1. If you close your eyes to new information you draw the wrong conclusion.

by upper left corner on Jul 10, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Logic is overrated.

I’m going strictly off emotion from now on — a gut feeling if you will — and my gut is telling me that Bayless a great backup 2 guard who can pass a little bit (but not too much!) and that LMA, Oden and Batum will not profit playing next to a guy who isn’t comfortable passing in the post, likes to finish at the rim more than kick it out and whose one definable (as in elite) NBA skill is his ability to get to the free throw line.

If he could either shoot at a higher percentage from deep, was a brilliant passer or if he wasn’t hindered by those short arms on defense I could maybe see him as a kind of Mo Williams type “point” guard in the starting lineup where he wasn’t really responsible for running the offense, but right now he’s a driving guard with poor to middling court vision and he overlaps too much with Brandon to be complimentary (spacing is already an issue).

My gut also tells me that it’s time for breakfast.

by nikolokolus on Jul 10, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Bayless is a Point Guard

1) “You are what you can defend.” Bayless defends PGs.

2) You may not like the style of game he plays, but he is clearly developing as a PG. His turnovers have come down significantly and his assist% has been increasing steadily.

3) IMO, it is fine to say you don’t like scoring PGs, or that you don’t like certain aspects of his game, or you think he needs to work on developing this or that skill, but blindly insisting that he isn’t a PG and failing to acknowledge that he is going to develop further as a player is either folly or intransigence.

by upper left corner on Jul 10, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know you are not fond of facts.....

……but let me point out one more:

For all of you who think Bayless is “shoot first,” please note that his Usage rate in the playoffs was actually lower than Miller’s. If you put him on the floor with more of the first team guys, he will defer to others.

by upper left corner on Jul 10, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Skip the snark please

You’re making this slightly personal when it absolutely isn’t.

by nikolokolus on Jul 10, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Humor?

I thought it was a play on the title of your previous comment.

by upper left corner on Jul 10, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

No worries

I must have mis-read your intent.

by nikolokolus on Jul 10, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I judge point guards differently than I do other players

I think it’s perfectly legitimate to point out how Bayless improved, but considering the baseline he set in his rookie year he didn’t have anywhere to go but up

But the only question I really care about in my point guard is this: Does he make his teammates better and does the team function more smoothly/effectively with him on or off the court. The answer to that question is pretty easy to decipher in a couple of stats at 82games.com 1) the offense was 2 points per48 minutes worse with him on the court and 3 points per48 minutes worse on defense.
http://www.82games.com/0910/09POR5.HTM

Regardless, I know better than to try and convince you that Bayless isn’t the answer, what’s more important is that the team seems to have already made that decision if the drafting of Williams and Johnson and pursuit of Farmar and now Lowry are any indication of what they think of his chances to play the point guard role for the Blazers.

by nikolokolus on Jul 10, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unless they're after a new backup PG

It could be that they have confidence in Bayless and are interested in moving into the starting position after Miller expires, leaving a vacancy at that 2nd PG spot.

There exists a quality which is nameless.

by 500dogs on Jul 10, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Rudy is gone for sure

Meaning Bayless can easily slide into that off-gaurd, backup 2 guard slot behind Roy and he played pretty well when paired off with Miller last year.

People are probably inclined to think that I’m bagging on J-Bay. ABSOLUTELY NOT!! I love his fire, I love his fearlessness and as a Vinnie Johnson “microwave” type off-the-bench scorer I think he’s got a real future in the league, but he’s just not a point guard.

by nikolokolus on Jul 10, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe you're right,

but maybe you’re wrong. If there’s any way Bayless can fit the need, that needs to be explored. I don’t know that he’ll be happy coming off the bench forever, and rightfully so—he’s a starter, whether for us or someone else.

There exists a quality which is nameless.

by 500dogs on Jul 10, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your logic is underated

and so are your gut instincts. I argue with the stat line people as well, and I share your opinions about Bayless and the (still hidden) importance of a true point guard as the missing piece to the next level.
  There has been a trend of sorts to shift the value of a point guard and declare that combo guards are the new answer to todays game…my contention is, the point guard (as a floor general), is not replaced so easily.(unless you continue to diminish or redefine this position by throwing in everything except the most important aspects ..when you adopt this form of play, you leave your team without a “heartbeat” that supplies the lifeblood to the entire team.. the missing element on this team and thanks for your comments ,

Does he make his teammates better and does the team function more smoothly/effectively with him on or off the court.

   How can this definition be discarded and given such little respect. A simple view of the game can give you more answers than a stat line and affords you the opportunity to evaluate without prejudice. Don’t ever let anyone diminish your gut instincts by attempting to disqualify them with so called objectivity…watching the game and understanding the play can give you much better insight into “team” play and how you chose to offer up and use an “individual” stat line. We don’t ignore the facts we simply put them into a definition that doesn’t compromise what our eyes tell us…. think “team” and then comment on what’s missing.

[Good defense "releases" your offense]

by WyEast on Jul 10, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Relying on +/- is certainly not convincing, IMHO.

Consider:

Bayless played most of his minutes in one of two situations:

1) He started for Roy for the 14 games he was out. It isn’t exactly a news flash that the team is not as good with Roy out.

2) He played with a back-up group that struggled at both ends. Juwan Howard, bless his soul, was not up to the job of anchoring the interior defense for the second unit. On the other end, I’m sure Bayless bares some of the blame, but given that Martell and Rudy collectively shot less than 35% after the All-Star break when Bayless took over PG duties, I certainly don’t think he deserves it all.

I’m not saying that the stat you point out is worthless, but I do think it is far from definitive. Again, the real question we should be asking is has Bayless shown enough to warrant being trusted as the second unit PG for the coming season? He had the fifth highest PER of any back-up PG in the league. He was even better in the playoffs. I think the logical answer is that he has earned more time to show what he can do. After all, he is still the second youngest guy on our roster including the rookies. If he continues to develop at the pace he showed last season, he may very well develop into our starting PG. If he doesn’t, then we can try to make a trade at the trade deadline.

Trading now, unless you get a no-brainer like CP3 at a fair price, doesn’t make much sense to me. Parker or Harris maybe, but most of the deals that have been suggested are pretty much horizontal moves that involve using assets without much upside potential.

by upper left corner on Jul 10, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

He just doesn't look like a PG out there.

He sees the hoop, not the floor and the spaces players will be as the play develops. Watch the other players while J-Bay has the ball—they tend to stop moving bc they know dimes are not his thing.

He’s a sweet young player, but I question whether he will ever be able to open up the floor for others with passing and be a reliable, smart defender. PG or not, you need a guy next to B-Roy who can do those things, especially when you consider how poorly LMA’s passing from the double team is.

I'm just not crazy about player nick names...

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jul 10, 2010 10:08 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

LMA's passing...

is atrocious out of the double team, but that’s nobody’s fault but his.

There exists a quality which is nameless.

by 500dogs on Jul 10, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Those of you in the Baylo-skeptic camp never cease to amaze me:

You act as if a 21 year old player, who was the most improved player on the team, has stopped developing and will never get better at anything.

PER
2009: 8.2; 2010: 14.3; 2010 Playoffs: 15.7

TOV%
2009: 19.3; 2010: 13.8; 2010 Playoffs: 9.6

AST%
2009: 18.2; 2010: 22.1; 2010 Playoffs: 27.9

You act as though Bayless’ court vision and decision making will never improve, when it has already improved substantially. Given his limited experience playing PG, both in college and with the Blazers, is it surprising that it is taking a while for him to understand what is going on? He is like a rookie quarterback in the NFL, he needs enough time on the floor for the game to slow down.

by upper left corner on Jul 10, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

My analogy was flawed

Bayless is more like a guy who was a High-School All-American QB in high school and who then got shifted to RB for one season of college and is now in the NFL trying to play his original position.

by upper left corner on Jul 10, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

good points

 and welcome to the “we need a floor general” camp.

[Good defense "releases" your offense]

by WyEast on Jul 10, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why?

It’s not necessary for Portland to draft and develop a PGoTF—and they haven’t historically been very good at it. The best PGs in the PritchardMcMillian era have come via trade (Blake/Miller) and the new GM will have an opportunity to acquire the next Blazer starting PG via trade or FA signing anytime in the next 2 weeks to 2 years.

There is absolutely no rush to change the starting PG, unless you have a built-in aversion to Andre’s game/personality and think that each day that passes with ‘Dre still on Portland’s roster is the bane of your existence, of course

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by two4larue on Jul 9, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

He doesn't have to be from the draft

I’ll take the point guard of the future any way I can get him

by tominhawaii on Jul 9, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

armon johnson = pg of the future

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt

by thomasikehara on Jul 9, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

for the Idaho Stampeders?

I’m not saying the Hammer was a bad choice, but he’s got a long way to go before he’ll even be as good as Jarrett Jack was. I’d rather have a veteran #3 PG who could fill in, in case of emergency than either Mills or Johnson on the active roster

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by two4larue on Jul 9, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Step 1: Hire Chuck Person and have him work with Hammer in the offseason, with Armon playing in D-League during the regular season, barring a major injury

Step 2:???

Step 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jul 9, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, Idaho Stampede head coach Randy Livingston would love him some Armon Johnson.

Yet, with that said, I do agree Johnson isn’t who I’d want on the roster of a ballclub that’s supposedly progressing forward from being a one-and-done playoff team to a legitimate contender.

by AK1984 on Jul 10, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

You always need talent in the pipeline

I’m not saying you count on Johnson to be your starter in 2 years, but if he can be a reliable backup then you can at least feel comfortable with that part of your rotation covered.

Time (as always) will tell.

by nikolokolus on Jul 10, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

PG situation is by far the most interesting.

I really like Armon’s attitude. Seems like just the kind of guy the Blazers would want around, but his lack of shooting compared to Mills sounds disappointing. But on the other hand, Mills seems like he should be playing a fast game, is small, but can shoot, which is what the Blazers want.
I wish I could watch summer league, but I’m not paying $15.

Of couse I realize everything I say here means nothing.
In K.P. I STILL trust.
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by llamaiguana on Jul 9, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet! might get to watch next weekend then.

Of couse I realize everything I say here means nothing.
In K.P. I STILL trust.
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.

by llamaiguana on Jul 10, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

if you have comcast

all 5 games are already scheduled on CSN. I have my DVR set already! :D

by Billy Hoyle on Jul 10, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mills seems like he should be playing a fast game, is small, but can shoot, which is what the Blazers want.

Yeah, I joked last year that Mills and Roy would be the ultimate odd couple backcourt. Brandon likes to mosey while Patty prefers to run, even after made baskets, etc. Mills could play off of Roy as a spot-up shooter I suppose, but the 2 of them would be absolutely brutal, defensively

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by two4larue on Jul 10, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow- our "new" mantra

“While the mantra around the Blazers has been “it’s time to improve through trades and free agency”

Why havent we been following the mantra? As far as I know, we havent made a single trade other than Martell for the draft pick, and weve picked up not a 1 single free agent. What are we waiting for?

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by cavejunctionblazer on Jul 9, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm mostly interested in...

1. PG play- Mills and Johnson
2. Babbit’s game—-. I’ve only seen you tube highlights. I want to see this shooting we keep hearing about and try to envision him in those moments last season where we could’ve used somebody to confidently hit those shots.
3. Cunningham’s offensive improvement. I felt like he missed enough layups and easy put backs to other the back of my mind.

...

by DaNoose on Jul 9, 2010 5:11 PM PDT reply actions  

One reason I miss Travis

He took some stupid shots, but at least he would shoot.

Of couse I realize everything I say here means nothing.
In K.P. I STILL trust.
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.

by llamaiguana on Jul 10, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm excited about Cunningham too.

If Dante could hit a solid 3 pointer and go to the rim at least a little, I almost feel bad for the other teams.

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In K.P. I STILL trust.
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.

by llamaiguana on Jul 10, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Canales said that Dante is going to attack the rim at SL

can’t wait to see DC’s improved handles, maybe he could be Nic’s primary backup? It would sure be a low cost way to cover the 3 position

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by two4larue on Jul 10, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The "new" "new" (old) mantra

Trust in GO to stay healthy.

by jiminut on Jul 9, 2010 6:16 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

at times this week Babbitt’s looked exhausted and a little confused. He’s been grabbing for his shorts and getting extra instruction from coaches afterwards.

Not a good sign. I know it took awhile for Batum to adjust back in ‘08, but Luke’s inexperience (WAC competition) is all the more reason for the front office to add a veteran backup at the wing this month. Hopefully they’ll have dinner with Raja Bell at the same Vegas restaurant where they met with Andre, last July

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by two4larue on Jul 9, 2010 7:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Raja Bell!

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Jul 9, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's only been offered $1.8M/yr by the Lakers, who he turned down.

Essentially we could beat that with the BAE, and IIRC is $2.08M? or even with a partial MLE.

I’d offer the full MLE but I’m getting a tad bit worried about his age/health but would still love to have him.

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Jul 9, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

We aren't high on his list

and there’s a lot of money out there. I think he’d rather play for the Heat for the minimum than for us for the MLE.

by HailOden! on Jul 9, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

wet blanket

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by two4larue on Jul 9, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't been hearing any news about him in the media

but from what’s swirling in NBA forums it’s that he prefers to play in Miami , since he’s from there and currently lives there. Word was that he wanted to play there before the big agent signings. If they get Mike Miller I see a redundancy in signing Raja.

I would love him on our team.

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by dpnim on Jul 9, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC,

his other choices were the L*kers and Chicago. Since then, he has apparently turned down the L*kers’ affrontory offer. My guess is that Reddick’s offer from Chicago will be matched, and Bell will be their next choice. But we’ll see.

by HailOden! on Jul 9, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think he was "choosing" the Lakers at all.

They were looking to sign him. Before he “rejected” them/their offer.

Haven’t heard any info about him and Chicago.

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by dpnim on Jul 9, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he was looking at the teams with the best shot at a title

if no one else wants him, he could also potentially wind up in Orlando, especially if they lose both JJ and Matt Barnes. Or, if they trade VC for Arenas or Paul, Bell would be great for wing depth.

by HailOden! on Jul 9, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's equivalent to the old saying

Fat girls are like mopeds…..they are fun to ride and get you where you are going…..but you don’t want your friends to see you on one….

by blacknoiseNW on Jul 10, 2010 12:17 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ben said Luke looked lost during practices this week

so I don’t think he can be counted on to contribute much, this year.

Babbitt’s the equivalent of a AA baseball player jumping straight to the majors, or a rule 5 draftee who has to be kept on the 25-man roster all year

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by two4larue on Jul 10, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a fan of Luke Babbitt, as well as would move him in a supersized ...

consolidation trade in certain circumstances. Matt Barnes, however, probably isn’t on the radar in light of Babbitt’s presence. Oh, and even if Babbitt wasn’t here, I’d focus on players who are more defensive-minded than Barnes.

by AK1984 on Jul 10, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, Barnes is meh

he’s been on some decent teams, and that’s why people probably remember him knocking down a few open 3s

that backup 2-3 is a tough role to fill, especially if you’re not Miami or L*A.

I’m encouraged that Pfund may be hired next week because he’s the kind of GM who prefers vets—it’s about time the Blazers scouting staff was balanced, instead of having everything revolve around how many kids they can stuff on the roster every June, or stash over in Europe.

Maybe Randy will do a few of those consolidation deals that KP always hesitated to make, until he had Juwan Howard starting at center, last winter

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by two4larue on Jul 10, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ben- Most important summer league question

Will the Mike’s be calling the games for the Comcast broadcasts?

Still on the Rex bandwagon.

by dan_the_man on Jul 9, 2010 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm going to listen to Wheels for a change

in hopes that they interview Warren LeGarie, he runs the Vegas summer league

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by two4larue on Jul 10, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

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