Pessimists Unite

by slimkim on Jul 7, 2010 12:19 AM PDT

Let's assume that at the end of the year we don't make the playoffs or we lose handily, again, in the first round. Does Nate get fired or do we 'rebuild' and keep him. And since we're being total downers, does Roy express desire to be moved or does he go down with the ship? Personally, so far Roy has exhibited nothing but positivity regarding this disorganization despite some of his closest friends being traded for questionable gain. This makes me think he will be like Alex English or Bernard of the Bullets and be one of those all time greats that played long term for teams destined to be tromped by the mega stars like Magic, Bird and MJ.

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Depends on the health of him and the players he has going to war with…

by Chea Cubana on Jul 7, 2010 12:39 AM PDT reply actions

We won't miss the playoffs

But, if we’re one and done again in the playoffs I think Nate gets axed.

"In fact you might say that Ugly is the Blazers' secret weapon this year."
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by Magnum on Jul 7, 2010 3:11 AM PDT reply actions

boo pessimists

optimists for ftw

camby was a “questionable gain?”

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt

by thomasikehara on Jul 7, 2010 5:47 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs

exactly.

"What people need to know is that those pictures were taken a year and a half ago, and I've grown since then." - Greg Oden

by dario argento on Jul 7, 2010 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions

my first thought as well

Given the extension, the Camby trade was an absolute steal, and Roy should know it.

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Jul 7, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions

absolutely. Camby is a less than 50/50 gamble.

Why gamble away a decent back up PG (Blakey) not to mention your fire plug, a la vinnie johnson (albeit a low basketball IQ microwave, in Travis Outlaw) for a guy that’s NEVER played an entire NBA season due to injury. That’s “NEVER” guys. Look at what that means. You can never depend on a guy like that as your starting center unless you have a ridiculously talented back up center. Can anyone think of a very talented back up center that was part of a championship team? Yeah, me neither and that’s because that guy doesn’t exist. Therefore, championships are won with centers who are either reliable or teams that don’t depend on their centers (Bulls, Late 80s Lakers, 90s/00 Pistons). Sorry but Stacy King, Elden Campbell and The Buddha were non factors.

slimkim

by slimkim on Jul 7, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Camby won't be starting

He’ll be the ridiculously talented back up center.

by ictoagsn on Jul 7, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions

This makes no sense? You seem like you want the blazers to fail.

I love how the “pessimists” say that after two years of being back in the playoffs with no championship, this team is an utter failure. “Last year was the last chance” they all say conveniently forgetting how decimated we were by injuries. Get a grip people it’s not the end, it’s just a little after the beginning. Most of our guys are in their low to mid twenties. There’s still life in them yet, and Broy still has a say in his destiny no matter what kind of comparison you make, or what kind if box you try to put him in.

I'm a Greg Oden honk, yeah.

Even when I was still a Sonic fan, I liked Oden more than Kevin Durant.

by AK1984 on Jun 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT

by Tyler Durrden on Jul 7, 2010 7:34 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs

i cant believe a team that started juwan howard at center for 30+ games didnt win the title

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt

by thomasikehara on Jul 7, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Seriously.

Of course I don’t ‘want’ the blazers to fail. But I am just predicting what I see as the beginning of the next drought in this town for blazer fans. Believe me, I was here for the entire 90s as a die hard fan.

slimkim

by slimkim on Jul 7, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions

what signals the end

a different gm?

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt

by thomasikehara on Jul 8, 2010 6:06 AM PDT up reply actions

no. It's more the culture

acquiring rookie/soph “stock” for that “big trade”. It’s like a gamble for a gamble, meanwhile getting rid of decent players who are developing and getting comfortable with their roles (jack, blake, webster, et al). That’s fine if you have Kobe, Wade, Pierce, Garnett, LBJ, etc. But we have Roy…and that’s it. And let’s face it, if he ends up having a career as good as Pierce (who in my opinion is the weakest of this group) he will go down as one of the greatest Blazers ever, and that’s not an easy task considering we had clyde, walton, (gulp) Steve Smith.

slimkim

by slimkim on Jul 8, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions

Unite?

That’ll never work …

by nikolokolus on Jul 7, 2010 7:36 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

awesome pessimism

channeling Eeyore

"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man

by PDXBuckeye on Jul 7, 2010 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions

the pessimists dont seem to think they can unite

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt

by thomasikehara on Jul 7, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions

I'm pessimistic enough to say that McMillan gets fired next year by Paul the Meddler and the Seattle Simpletons even if he wins a championship...

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Jul 7, 2010 8:00 AM PDT reply actions

Even though..

..it really wasn’t that long ago that Dave said it, it feels like a long time ago. I think the upcoming season is going to be a season of “No Excuses” and definition. Injury, coaching, and individual and team performance is all going to be evaluated this year. I don’t assume anything. Larry Miller easily states that the goal of Paul Allen and thus The Blazers is to bring a championship to Portland. I think falling out of playoff contention and/or another 1st round exit would result in significant change, but since we haven’t even started summer league for this year, I’m not speculating as to what that hypothetical change after a hypothetical outcome, may or may not be. I only imagine that failure at that level would mean almost everything would be in flux. Coaching and Players.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Jul 7, 2010 9:04 AM PDT reply actions

I sure hope another early exit would get Nate fired.

by jksnake99 on Jul 7, 2010 9:13 AM PDT reply actions

I don't see how we can win without KP

I totally remember that GM that won the title for that team. I do agree though, that this is Nate’s last chance, his job may depend on the health of the team. He should take classes at a medical school this summer.

by twggyy on Jul 7, 2010 11:31 AM PDT reply actions

Definitely agree re: Nate.

Although what he should be doing this summer is devising an offense that allows Andre to play to his strengths more, saved BRoy’s knees, and prepares to incorporate Oden. And also has rolls on the PnR plays.

Or a defense that doesn’t involve switching everything (although he has some neat gimmicky zones).

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Jul 7, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions