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Ex-Lakers: OK or No Way?

Any interest?

Continuing discussion through the remainder of the extended weekend...

A couple of Lakers are apparently coming available in the backcourt, namely Jordan Farmar and Shannon Brown.  Would you have interest in either?  Despite my allergy to shooting guards 6'4" and under I could see Brown being an exciting add.  You?  Discuss.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Shannon Brown, yes. He’s a pretty flashy and decent player and seems to realize that he needs to be a backup to a better player, so I think it would be a good fit.

by Mark Donovan on Jul 5, 2010 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I'll take it!

Sorry Bayless lovers, but Brown would be an upgrade.

by theBlazerTrip on Jul 5, 2010 11:43 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I disagree.

First, Brown is a pure SG and the Blazers are trying to groom Bayless to be a combo guard. Second, Bayless had an arguably better season (scoring rate, true shooting percentage, assist rate). Third, Bayless is 3 years younger and will be cheaper for the next 2 years.

by poster on Jul 5, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well,

Brown maybe, Farmar no —

by Transposing on Jul 5, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

bayless had an arguably better season? are you kidding?

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Jul 5, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

owned

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt

by thomasikehara on Jul 5, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for saving me the trouble

Amazing how many people underestimate Bayless and forget that he is only 21. Folks don’t seem to understand how much his efficiency is improved by his ability to get to the line. As his shot improves he is going to become a very good scoring option.

by upper left corner on Jul 5, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jerryd better take over the 6th man role

because as of today, the bench really doesn’t have another consistent option

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

All this drafting of guards and looking at FA guards tells me that Bayless is trade bait.

His value seems to be high, other teams want him. It’s hard to imagine a big time trade without Bayless being in the mix.

by raoulduke on Jul 6, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

we'll see

KP is gone, and the new GM may not be a big fan of Jerryd’s game

I don’t think we can make (or keep all of ) the old assumptions about any of the current Blazers re: their future with the team, because next week there will (probably) be a new sherriff in town, and he’s going to have his own ideas about the roster, going forward (and I’m sure that Larry and Paul have their “favorite” players as well, on the team and around the league)

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 6, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brown's decision making

is horrible. Think Sergio with a lot more athleticism. Brown makes truly inexcusable turnovers all the time.

by morg on Jul 5, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

No!

Just say no to former L*kers!!

by homersolo on Jul 5, 2010 11:44 AM PDT reply actions  

No is right!

It’s bad enough Roy was a Lackey fan pre-Blazers, I couldn’t stomach much less bring myself to root for the Blazers the same way with tainted meat on the team.

What good are Ws if you have to bring the enemy aboard to get them?

Tie down the furniture kids, it's time for another ride down Ulcer Gulch!

by DMKPDX on Jul 5, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brown would be ok

if the current bench was gutted in a superstar deal, but otherwise meh…

by retirecards51 on Jul 5, 2010 11:46 AM PDT reply actions  

yeah, couldn't agree more...

Get busy livin', or get busy dyin'. -the shawshank redemption.

by pdxborn on Jul 5, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

hell yeah

i would love to have shannon brown on our roster, seeing alley oops from andre miller or hopefully cp3 would be a sight to see

chad kho

by chadkho on Jul 5, 2010 11:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Sure...no problem

redemption is possible

Phil Mickelson: "A Great shot is when you pull it off.....a smart shot is when you don't have the guts to try it"’

by 92wastheyear on Jul 5, 2010 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't know

Just based on my principles, I would be pretty against any ex-Lakers joining the Blazers. I know that I would never want Kobe or Gasol on the team, so why would i want any of their lesser teammates?
With regards to Jordan Farmar or Shannon Brown in particular, Farmar isn’t a particuarly good point guard, and he has seemed to regress each of the years that he has been in the league. With Brown, I don’t see what he brings to the table that can’t be replicated by Bayless. Shannon Brown’s averages, 8.1 pts, 2.2 rbs, 1.3 ast, 42.7 fg%, 32.8 3pt , 81.8 FT. Bayless averaged 8.5 pts,, 1.6 rbs, 2.3 asts and shooting %s were respectively 41.4, 31.5 and 83.1. Not much of an upgrade if one at all

by blazersfan50 on Jul 5, 2010 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

I would take

Gasol on the blazers any day regardless of his seedy past affiliations.

"So I said, 'Supercollider?! I just met her!'" - Humorbot 5.0

by K-Dash on Jul 5, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll take anyone who helps us win....

ex-Laker or not. I don’t care as long as a W goes in our column.

by billyrybates on Jul 5, 2010 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Anyone??

feels too much like rooting for laundry to me. I say no to ex-LAX players!

by Pickerind on Jul 5, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Neither

is such a perfect fit that I can overlook their faker spirt.

"I come to you now, at the turn of the tide." -- Brandon "Gandalf" Roy, April 24th, 2010

by RedUniInLA on Jul 5, 2010 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Well they are ex-L*kers

So obviously they either have enormous amounts of good sense or at least plenty of class.

I’ll take anybody if I think it will make my team better … the question remains, do either Farmar or Brown make us better? That’s a pretty tough call.

by nikolokolus on Jul 5, 2010 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Without a trade.

Either player is in street clothes on the inactive list, unless we have several injuries & that ain’t gonna happen again this year!

Somebody step up! - Mike Rice

by We-B-Dunkin on Jul 5, 2010 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

You have to remember

That Phil Jackson probably gets just a little more out of each one of his players than McMillan does. With that said, Brown and Farmar are average players at best and would serve no purpose on this Trail Blazers team except to satisfy the hunger for change.

Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.

by Net Ranger on Jul 5, 2010 12:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Completely agree

Brown has actually been kicking around the league for a little bit before he joined the Lakeshow and was a total bum before then. I think he benefited from being in that system and rotation and he wouldn’t be an upgrade over anyone we have.

Also, the Lakers seem to know what they’re doing with the roster (you don’t get 5 championships and two more Finals appearances in the last ten years by accident) so I’d be wary of damaged goods. Look at Ariza getting overpaid by the Rockets and the Lakers taking Artest. Houston still busted out of the playoffs and L.A. won their championships. I don’t care about ex-Lakers joining the team, but only if they’re at a reasonable price and a good fit.

by vitaminx on Jul 5, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe we need to steal a L*ker

to make up for their bold grab of Steve Blake.

The Dude abides.

by BrewDude on Jul 5, 2010 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Considering

that we had Steve Blake TWICE and traded him away to terrible teams both times, I don’t blame Steve Blake one bit for being pissed at the Blazers if he was. That said, Blake is just a younger Derek Fisher without the clutch so he works fine for them. It’ll be interesting to see Blake in purple and gold at the RG, though!

by vitaminx on Jul 5, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can deal with them being x-Lakers.

But I just don’t want either of those two particular players.

by spambot on Jul 5, 2010 12:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

um....

I like Brown, but isn’t he Bayless in a Laker uni? Farmar I’ve never been too high on. He might do better in a different system than the triangle. But if they could help and put Ws on the record, I don’t mind. But I don’t think these two would help much though….

Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.

by jenstcy on Jul 5, 2010 12:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Former Lakers are fine. If you limit the pool of players you are willing to pursue because of dumb reasons like “they used to play for the Lakers,” you are just putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage.

However, neither Brown nor Farmar makes much sense unless we are moving several backcourt players as part of a bigger trade. Neither one is an upgrade over Bayless as a reserve combo guard.

by jksnake99 on Jul 5, 2010 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Why would people want brown?

He was absolutely awful in the playoffs and would function much better on a running/transition team like the Suns. As previous people have stated, Bayless is just as good, if not better.

by xncd on Jul 5, 2010 12:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Dear Dave . . .

        Why do you encourage cursing on this site. That word/name is
offensive to many Blazermaniacs ! TTFFM is best !
(The Team Formerly From Minneapolis)

       Sincerely,
                          Walkoff41

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Jul 5, 2010 12:33 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I actually hate SB as a PLAYER

I don’t care about the Laker thing. I hate the lakers, but players are players. They get signed and moved and traded tons of times in their careers.

I'm gonna be the only A-hole that owns a Nic Batum jersey that doesn't live in France. Awesome.

by CoRBBall on Jul 5, 2010 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

he's travis outlaw

without the jump shot. This dude shoots like he’s playing hot potato. I literally can’t remember him passing the ball.

by skott75 on Jul 5, 2010 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

exactly

Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.

by Net Ranger on Jul 5, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not impressed

The most intriguing player on the Lakers bench is Adam Morrison. I’d want him on the Blazers more than Farmar or Brown.

by The Brain333 on Jul 5, 2010 12:41 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

I'm crossing my fingers

and hoping it’s sarcasm.

Team KP

by Roybot on Jul 5, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

You didn't year that there is a new SIGN THE STACHE! movement?

Well, neither did I. But local sports radio should be all over that any minute now.

by Norsktroll on Jul 5, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Curious.

In Bayless I trust.
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by staylost on Jul 5, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

This might just be the most awesome thing I've ever read.

"[S]ince men enjoyed very great leisure, they used it to pursue many kinds of commodities unknown to their fathers, and that was that first yoke they placed upon themselves without thinking about it, and the first source of evils the prepared for their descendants. For, besides continuing thus to soften body and mind, as these commodities had lost almost all their pleasantness through habit, and as they had at the same time degenerated into true needs, being deprived of them became much more cruel than possessing them was sweet; and people were unhappy to lose them without being happy to have them." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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by T Darkstar on Jul 5, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

i might wanna give a spot to brown

just to see some monster dunks in a blazer jerssey

WITH ODEN ON OUR SIDE

by bowdown on Jul 5, 2010 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Umm...what?
my allergy to shooting guards 6’4" and under

Then why so into Bayless, Dave?

by stavrogin on Jul 5, 2010 12:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Since when is Dave deeply into Bayless?

He regards Bayless as somewhat who might develop well or might not.

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Jul 5, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good on-the-ball defender. Ok off-the-ball defender. Low basketball IQ. Good at defending screen and roll,

though he does, for some odd reason, likes to go under screens when the ball-handler is a good shooter. Basketball IQ is probably the problem. Doesn’t keep his head up on drives. Inconsistent jumper, though he tries to implement a midrange game to go along with his three point shooting. Good finisher at the rim. Has no left hand. Really good player off the ball. Good cutter. Offers flexibility because he can play and defend the point and shooting guard positions.

I think Brown is worth the amount on his last deal that just expired. Maybe $3 million per year. Not bad for bench player.

by E-ROC on Jul 5, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Must be a quiet day around these parts...

if the topic for debate is whether or not being a former Laker is grounds for not signing a third string point guard.

by jigglyai on Jul 5, 2010 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

(caugh) Serious?

I wish you were LA’s GM…

I'm just not crazy about player nick names...

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jul 5, 2010 3:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

We'll just slide Kobe over to third

and let B-Roy continue to man shortstop. Ahhhhhh.

I'm just not crazy about player nick names...

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jul 5, 2010 5:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

don't make me do this, again

“I foresee two possibilities. One, Blazer fans coming face to face with K*be in a Blazer’s uniform would put them into shock and they’d simply pass out. Or two, the encounter could create a time paradox, the results of which could cause a chain reaction that would unravel the very fabric of the space time continuum, and destroy the entire universe! Granted, that’s a worse case scenario. The destruction might in fact be very localized, limited to merely our own galaxy.”

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gene Rodenberry, is that you?

(probably butchered th poor guy’s name. Sorry)
seriously, though: there some great NBA sci-fi books/TV shows just waiting to be written.

facebook.com/year5000

by Y5k on Jul 5, 2010 4:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

C'mon, that's Doc Brown from BTTF

one of the greatest movie quotes of all time, I wonder how many takes it took Chris Lloyd to spit it all out?

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess it depends...

Odom, Bynum, Gasol? No. Bryant? H, e, double toothpicks no. Never. The Lakers that we love to hate are clear ’No’’s- just like when Scottie Pippen came to town; I looked at him as a mercenary and not a Blazer. But a bit player that has done us little harm? Not opposed to it, but at the same time I’d have to wonder why we would want them.

by Drexler4Ever on Jul 5, 2010 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

What about Drexler?

Arguably the greatest Blazer of all time. Yet he retired as a Rocket, went into the Hall of Fame as a Rocket and commentates for the Rockets; is he a mercinary?

I only ask because Scottie Pippen was about 12 minutes shy of being the Finals MVP on the 2000 Blazers Championship team

by AtlBlzr on Jul 5, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drexler played in 2 finals as a Blazer.

Clyde 2 Pippen 0

Somebody step up! - Mike Rice

by We-B-Dunkin on Jul 5, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed, does that make Drexler any less of a mercinary though?

BTW…I made the Pippen reference as we would have walked thru the Pacers that year and Pippen clearly was the team leader in 2000.
Also, just to make sure no one thinks I dislike #22, Drexler is my all-time favorite NBA player! Roy might be getting close though.

by AtlBlzr on Jul 5, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the diff. is that Clyde was born & raised in Houston.

Pip was not from Chi-town or P-town.

Somebody step up! - Mike Rice

by We-B-Dunkin on Jul 5, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder how often Scottie goes back to Central Arkansas?

He probably still has some family there, but something tells me Larsa doesn’t fit in too well, back there in ol’ Hamburg

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't want either of those players.

We have enough 1s and 2s by a huge amount. We need to sign a 2-3 backup wing, because currently we have:
Miller, Bayless, Mills, Johnson
Roy, Rudy, Hammer

We do NOT need more logjam. The only way signing Brown would be reasonable is if we had a deal lined up for Rudy and possibly Bayless, but like others have said, I’d still rather have Bayless.

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Jul 5, 2010 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Dave must be peeved at us.

First he posts that horrible photo of Greg on the floor, now he posts a photo of a Laker player dunking,
probably in a game against the Blazers.

What next? A photo of Brandon hugging Kobe?

Dave whatever we did, we beg your forgiveness.

by MiledAnimal on Jul 5, 2010 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

If you look at the photo closely it says "Finals" on the hoop brace.

But I agree, Dave obviously is mad at us. I think we forgot to feed his dog or something.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

Banning "chat speak" is like banning apostrophes. There would be no "you're" if some punk kid in the 1700s hadn't been a rebel.

by haildablazer on Jul 5, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

no to Farmar

yes to Brown

The Dude: Hey, careful, man, there's a beverage here!

by cavejunctionblazer on Jul 5, 2010 1:15 PM PDT reply actions  

cant stand brown

after all the dunk contest hype he got, only to have such a dud of a performance

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt

by thomasikehara on Jul 5, 2010 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

As a Laker fan...

I wouldn’t want either of them, but if I had to choose, I would want Farmar. Over the last two years I have found myself yelling (thru the TV) at Brown far more that Farmar. If you like pull up jumpers in transition, from your worst jump shooter, then Brown is the way to go. Yes he can give you a spectacular dunk here and there, but watching him run up the court knowing that if he can’t get that dunk, he is going to clang a PUJIT off the rim is EXTREMELY frustrating.

by savageaces on Jul 5, 2010 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I like Brown’s dunks… amazing. But he isn’t on my radar because i still think Bayless has room to grow. BUT… if JBay is used in a trade? Sure, brown might be a good replacement, although I would hate to sign him for many years, or use the MLE on a guy like him.
Coming from the Lakers winning a world championship, I wonder what sort of contract this guy is going to expect?

Strobes503

by Strobes503 on Jul 5, 2010 1:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Depends

As the roster currently stands, no to both (we have better and cheaper options). But if they end up swinging a megadeal, then either of them would be a nice pickup as a 3rd or 4th guard in the rotation.

"Parting ways is not the end of the world. Ultimately, it may not be a bad thing at all, but right now I know the emotions are pretty raw. But it doesn't serve anyone to bash the Trail Blazers or Paul. It is after all a business of tough decisions. So, for the sake of the players, coaches and everyone who believes in Trail Blazers basketball, let's turn the page, move on and keep our eye on the prize." -KP

by The Cactus Leaguer on Jul 5, 2010 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, Shannon Brown to Fred Jones is a good comparison.

Frankly, Brown lucked into a nice gig with the Los Angeles Lakers — as that team’s strengths masked his numerous flaws — which wouldn’t be the case with the Portland Trail Blazers. So yeah, I don’t want Brown here; he’d be a poor fit.

by AK1984 on Jul 5, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't believe you compared Dominque Jones to Shannon Brown

you and Dave need to hang out together over in the BE corner, wearing matching dunce caps

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by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guys like Dominique Jones and Shannon Brown have useful skill sets, but they're absolutely ...

the wrong type of player to pair with Brandon Roy. That’s clear as day, too, since Roy’s drawbacks would be exposed playing next to an admittedly athletic, yet inefficient shooting and turnover prone two guard who needs the ball in his hands. I will say, however, that Jones landed in a good situation with the Dallas Mavericks, for his two main skills — which are decent athleticism and driving to the basket — should do well as a member of that guard rotation. The only issue there will be defense, although I guess the Mavericks could throw DeShawn Stevenson out there in short spurts if that’s a real problem. At any rate, though, I’d argue that the Mavericks should start Jason Kidd and Rodrigue Beaubois, with Jones and Jason Terry coming off the bench. Stevenson, Matt Carroll, and J.J. Barea can ride the pine. Beyond that, the Mavericks real concern right now is solidifying the center position — as Dirk Nowitzki, Caron Butler, Shawn Marion, and even Eduardo Najera can handle the forward spots — thus, re-signing Brendan Haywood and turning Erick Dampier’s non-guaranteed contract into something of value are much-needed moves at this juncture.

by AK1984 on Jul 5, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

i remember our game against the lakers at the end of this past season

lakers had gasol open against one of our pgs, but instead of going to the obvious miss match, brown just jacks up a 3

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt

by thomasikehara on Jul 5, 2010 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

On the basis of being ex-Lakers

No problem with that.

On the basis of these two as players, nope.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 5, 2010 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

who is this stevenson kid that Indiana stole?

this guy has some talent, anyone watching summer league?

Geriatric Dunk Squad!
1/4/10 - Juwan Howard dunks on Chris Kaman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkOqDgLb6s
3/7/10 - Andre Miller Tomahawk jams on the Denver Nuggets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JVgm7F1QA
4/12/10 - Marcus Camby drops 30 and 13 on OKC to cement 50 wins. http://www.nba.com/blazers/media/camby_chant_041310.mp3

by Eat Politicians on Jul 5, 2010 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Lance Stevenson

yeah he’s got skill, but he comes with a terrible selfish, arrogant attitude, or so i’ve read.

pass the beer nuts

by spambot on Jul 5, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have nothing against lakers...

…just these two lakers. No thanks.

whaa happen?

by Toby on Jul 5, 2010 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

O'Neal could probably be had for the MLE

if anybody wants to make him an offer

it would be ironic if he wound up back down in Orlando. the Shaq-o-rang

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

does he really have anything left to offer?

he’s just plain terrible now.

pass the beer nuts

by spambot on Jul 5, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it'd be cool

if he went back to the Lakers. Good for him, the media, and the teams. If he’s gonna thrive anywhere, it’d have to be in Phil’s triangle again. Besides, I’d love to see Oden dunk on Shaq and make that stupid face Shaq did in that one video the NBA loves to play of the 2000 WCF Game 7 a few times… Retribution….

by vitaminx on Jul 5, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hercy!

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!

by faith on Jul 5, 2010 2:43 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

heresy?

Basket's that way, Chief!

by OneTrickPony on Jul 5, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hershey?

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Jul 5, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not impressed with Farmar's pg skills (laker fans loved to hate him)

And Brown can throw it down with the best of ’em…but he freelanced way too much with contested jumpers and fadeaways, he would be exposed in the Blazers system…no thanks to both!

Basket's that way, Chief!

by OneTrickPony on Jul 5, 2010 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Both of those players suck.

Period.

I'm just not crazy about player nick names...

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jul 5, 2010 3:02 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Previous team affiliation should never be relevant

If a guy would improve the Blazers on the court and not be a distraction off it, sign him up

Speaking of cruel, Portland fired GM Kevin Pritchard an hour before the draft. Hey, he's only a top-seven GM -- there are plenty of those. Does anyone else think Al Davis died a year ago and took over Paul Allen's body? - Bill Simmons

Can't get over the fact that Pritchard -- fired earlier in the day -- is still running Portland's draft. If I were him, I'd be in Portland's war room loudly calling other GMs and saying things like, "I have an offer for you: I'll trade you our No. 23 pick, and in return, YOU HELP ME PULL THE F****** KNIFE OUT OF MY BACK!!!!! Do we have a deal????" - Bill Simmons

by blazeraddict on Jul 5, 2010 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

i would rather continue

bayless’ development, browns role on the lakers is similar to bayless, bayless is better value for money

by Yawnie on Jul 5, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

The problem is not

them being lakers or whether we should debate their skills. The problem is we cannot seem to develop our own players. Bayless, cool, lets be patient. But honestly, is anybody expecting him to explode into the next big thing? No. He could get a little better but he isn’t going to fullfill the expectations that were laid out for him. “The point guard of the future.” We haven’t even developed LMA like we should have. Someone needs to shoot his dog or something. Grow some cubes LMA and smack some folks around. We can’t keep GO healthy. Are we going to blame it on him, or the coaching staff not properly training him? OKC is overtaking us so fast that they may well be past us. They are well coached, well managed, and have good chemistry. They are the next big team. And it pisses me off so bad.

Our coaching staff is who we need to trade in. Make whatever changes we need to make. No wonder no one wants to come to Portland. We have a bad history of stagnacy. A couple of good/great teams here and there, but we are a murky, stagnant mess. Players don’t care so much about the town, as they do winning. They won’t win here. So they won’t come. I’ve been a blazer fan my whole life, and I honestly can’t blame anyone for not wanting to come here. I wouldn’t come here. Management and coaching suck. Give it a year. If it sucks, or doesn’t meet expectations…BLOW UP THE ROSTER!!!! It isn’t working.

by Gpop171 on Jul 5, 2010 3:32 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Management and coaching suck. Give it a year. If it sucks, or doesn’t meet expectations…BLOW UP THE ROSTER

Nah, the roster is OK, it just needs a few tweaks here and there. If Nate can’t get it all together this year then replace him. It’s always easier to replace the coach than the players

Paul and Larry should let the team know that if they want to keep their head coach around, they need to make it to the WCF. That’s motivation from the front office

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow Gpop171 a murky, stagnant mess really.

Check the PTB’s winning % from 1975 to 2010 & compare to every other NBA team in the same span. Seriously!

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by We-B-Dunkin on Jul 5, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has the statue of limitations expired on Trevor Ariza?

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by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Now, that's someone I'd consider, since he could do D and 3s at the backup wing positions.

Especially if Rudy were gone. Otherwise – aaaaawkward.

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by austinpwnz on Jul 5, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brown is good

I wouldn’t waste a MLE for him though.

by RainInRipCity on Jul 5, 2010 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Do either of these guys even bring anything we don't already have?

At this point I like almost all of the guys on our team and don’t like the idea of moving any of them to make space for others that are not a substantial upgrade. Unless we’re bringing in an all-star we don’t need to make a move. Lets just get healthy and see what happens.

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by spambot on Jul 5, 2010 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

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by Y5k on Jul 5, 2010 4:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

How about lease with an option to buy?

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by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Jul 5, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ooh, yeah Let's sign Jordan Bayless AND Jerryd Brown

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by haildablazer on Jul 5, 2010 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Or is that Jerryd Brown and Jordan Bayless?

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by haildablazer on Jul 5, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bayless > Brown

..and I’ve never been a Farmar fan. Put it this way. A lot of people on this website were not big fans of Steve Blake. Well, the world champion Los Angeles Lakers liked him more than they did Farmer. That ought to tell you something.

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by halo_on on Jul 5, 2010 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, Steve Blake is a system player and, well, the Triangle offense is a good fit for an off guard ...

like him who can spot up and drain it from downtown. Anyway, with regards to Jordan Farmar, his best bet is to sign with the Indiana Pacers. That’s the one chance Farmar has at a starting gig, which’d give him a chance to finally prove his worth. Now, I’m not fond of him; yet, I don’t really care about the Pacers, either.

by AK1984 on Jul 5, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Farmar would be the best fit

Great defender and is a consistent shooter.

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by 49er16 on Jul 5, 2010 8:19 PM PDT reply actions  

and he has really impressive lobes

like this guy

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by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

ABK

Anybody But K*be.

I could care less about whether a player played for LA or not. As much as I hate the team, I’ll take anybody (but K*be) who will help the Blazers win.

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by Mr. Knox on Jul 5, 2010 9:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't get it?..

Just because he can jump high and made a couple Sportscenter type highlights doesn’t mean Shannon Brown would help us. Bayless is better then Brown in all the ways that matter to the Blazers. L@ker or not I don’t see any benefit to adding this guy.

Pau Gasol on the other hand?.. L*ker or not… I’d take him.

by Ilikeemall on Jul 5, 2010 10:48 PM PDT reply actions  

considering Blake was an upgrade to the Laker bench

this should be understood as a rhetorical opportunity to mock ex-Lakers.

by blacknoiseNW on Jul 6, 2010 1:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Ex-Lakers? (shrug) Okay.

  As much as I hate The Lakers, they have cherry picked Ex-Blazers with good success. Most notably Mychal Thompson. Blake is positioned to have a good run as a Laker. So if we don’t allow ourselves to evaluate without prejudice potential talent that happen to be Ex-Lakers, then we are hindering our own possibilities. So we owe it to ourselves to ignore the Ex-Laker status of a player, and simply evaluate the talent available.

  Having said that? I don’t think I’d be too excited about Jordan Farmar or Shannon Brown regardless of past affiliation. But Ex-Laker status wouldn’t preclude my evaluation of them.

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by Krang on Jul 6, 2010 8:06 AM PDT reply actions  

farmar and brown are difficult to evaluate

that 2nd unit for the lakers had bad chemistry, because those two guys could never consistently get the ball in to the post. they stalled the offense, and typically had to create for themselves and hoist up bad shots. but they aren’t as bad as most people think.

farmar has a lot of confidence, and he won’t shy away from the moment. he wants that responsibility. i think that’s probably his greatest strength. he’s also a decent 3pt shooter and can slash and finish creatively around the basket.

brown is very coachable. he makes mistakes, but they’re not the kind a selfish player or a bonehead would make. he has outstanding physical gifts, and I expect there is still room to improve for him.

both guys are at their best in transition. but the blazers aren’t a transition team, as far as I can tell. i don’t think they’d be good fits, but i don’t think they’d be bad either.

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by ignign*kt on Jul 6, 2010 8:59 AM PDT reply actions  

shannon brown good, jordan farmar bad

by lsjogren on Jul 6, 2010 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

I think I agree with the general consensus

Neither of these two players get me excited, but it’s not because they are ex-L*kers. I think I would have an issue with an ex-L*ker that was a key component of eliminating Portland in the past, or a face-of-the-franchise becoming a Blazer though. For instance, I don’t want K*be, Pau, Lamar or Artest on the Blazers. I also don’t want Shaq, even though he has played for three (?) teams since his L*ker days. Role players float through different teams, and they generally go where they can get paid.

Some guys, like Rick Fox, Derek Fisher, K*be, Big Shot Bob Horry, Shaq, Kareem, Worthy, Michael Cooper, Magic, Byron Scott… These are guys that I don’t want to ever have as part of the franchise. Not even employed to clean the towels in the visitors locker room.

Some of these guys were role players, but their role in defeating the Blazers is too significant for me to ever want them here. lol But really… Other than cash some paychecks, what did Farmar, Brown, Morrison, and quite a few others really contribute to L.A. beating Portland?

But if they were valued by the L*kers, they likely wouldn’t be changing addreses as a free agent.

by Rodney Gustafson on Jul 6, 2010 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

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