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Armon Johnson

This is something I have been meaning to write since I first heard that Armon might possibly be drafted to this great organization.  I held my breath until after the fact...and after he recently chose his number I felt I could go ahead and write this fanpost.  Essentially, I just want to give a snapshot of Armon as a player and a person.

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I played AAU basketball with him for a summer in Northern California.  At the time there was talk that he might transfer to a California HS from Nevada, since he had already won the player of the year award, and seemed to be far superior to his competition.  

The first time I played with him, my AAU coach picked him out of a crowd and was like "you want to play with us?" We were all like...Coach, realy?  This is like the #1 ranked team in the area and you are just gonna grab some random fool from the crowd.  He never practiced with us or anything.  Of course Armon said yes and grabbed a jersey.  We start warming up and everything is going fine.  Then, some dudes on my team start doing dunks and trick dunks: Lebron Cockbacks, 360's, rock the cradle, nothing absurd.  Armon decides to up the ante...he tosses the ball off the all behind the basket and does a windmill dunk, first try.  The next time he takes off from like a foot or so inside the freethrow line, flushes it easily.  So we are all like...we'll we know he can bash..but that doesn't mean anything.  We had players on our team who were essentially useless with the ball in the hand if they weren't dunking.  So, it was no big deal.  

Our coach decided to start Armon, despite some protest from our longer tenured players.  Tip goes, and Armon just takes over.  No one could see him.  Too fast, too strong, to quick, too poised.  He was just getting layups.  So then, he starts pulling from halfway between the three point line and half court, CASHING.  He hit like 4 in a row.  Obviously, we blew this team out.  Everyone concluded that Armon was Raw...RAW.  

Our next tournament was hosted by our rival, and Armon joined us again.  Again, the top teams in the area, including the best team in San Francisco (bragging rights galore).  The entire gym was full of people from different neighborhoods, etc.  i had never seen this many people in this particular facility.  Armon dominated the ENTIRE game.  However, the most memorable play I can remember was when the best player got a run out from a long rebound.  They passed the ball up to this wing player, who was a legit 6'6", 215, with bunnies.  Our whole bench is like, dang he's gonna murder this rim (he was destroying them in warmups).  Armon comes streaking down the opposite side of the court, on course to meet this guy at the rim.  We were all like...what the heck is he doing?  So he keeps running and slows down at about the freethrow line so we are like...ok that makes sense.  Then BOOM he accelerates and jumps right after the other wing player.  We were all like..."Armon bout to get CRAPPED on".  They meet in the air and Armon gets ALL ball.  No body, no arm, no wrist, no fingers....just ball, at the rim.  

Just so that you can get a realistic idea of what happened it was just like this, because, if you watch the other guys eyes, thats EXACTLY what we looked like on the bench.  

Needless to say, we won the game and tournament, as you can see here.  Of course, there is Armon in the front.14265_188847468373_752618373_2795919_5192480_n_medium

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Aside from being a great basketball player, Armon is a great dude, helped me improve my game for no reason other than I asked him.  So I know he will fit right in with the culture of the team.  He's funny, so I see a bit of travis and Martel in him, in that he's got a glue guy personality.  He assumes goodwill, and doesn't take things out of context.  At the same time, he's like Bayless with an unrelenting, physical, at the rim game.  He has the athleticism is definitely NBA caliber.  So I look forward to many years of Armon on the Blazers.  

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before I finish reading (and I want to)

you should edit out the cussing, or this will be removed. And I don’t want it to be, cuz its good so far.

by spambot on Jul 5, 2010 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

oh yea,

Good call. I meant too but I only slept for 45 minutes last night because of this stupid policy program I’m in. I just wanted to finally finish this before I napped before my next class. I just forgot to edit them back out. Lemme know if you see any other ones.

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by kajuayn on Jul 5, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

we didn't need another Jerryd Bayless

…with probably even less basketball IQ. I smell another Robert Pack or if he’s lucky a Rod Strickland. Which equals mediocrity. Who else misses Blake?

slimkim

by slimkim on Jul 7, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please...

Blake couldn’t D-up on your grandma. Give him an “A” for effort, but he’s very limited. He fit BRoy’s style, but we will not win anything with Blake as PG. The only so-so PG to ever lead a team to a ring was Avery Johnson, and he had Duncan and Robinson to help in ‘99. I’m not saying JBay or Armon, even Miller or PMills are the answer…just that Blake wasn’t.

by Judo Know Me on Jul 8, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blake's tres

will be missed and I don’t pretend to think he was a great PG, but he’s potentially one of the best back up PGs. Why do you think the World Champ (nausea) Lakers signed him for that much money if that weren’t the case

slimkim

by slimkim on Jul 8, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed 100%

He’s good at his craft, great back-up, low turnovers and marksman from the corner…not the L*kers though, sigh.

"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent. You can have all the talent in the world, but if you don't do the right thing nothing happens. But when you do right, good things happen."

by Judo Know Me on Jul 8, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Great story. Looking at his measurements from draftexpress, he measured out similarly to John Wall. I didn’t expect the vertical, or the bench press numbers.

Is it weird that Portland drafted 3 left handed players?

by ORDucktape on Jul 5, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

and we're on the left coast

that’s all I got

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by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus I'm typing this only with my left hand!

In Bayless I trust.
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by staylost on Jul 5, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

How do you

flag and rec a comment at the same time?

I H8 TXTSPK

by shenanigans on Jul 5, 2010 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Armon isn't that good looking!

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by staylost on Jul 5, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

junk yard dog PG

hoepfully without the annoying social habits of Ruben

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by two4larue on Jul 9, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed, this does sound fairly sketch...

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by kajuayn on Jul 5, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

There this proves it!

I did it again!!! (It helps that I’m sinistromanual)

In Bayless I trust.
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by staylost on Jul 5, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it was no coincidence

He did his best for us in his last draft as a member of the Blazers.

by ictoagsn on Jul 6, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

i like being left-handed

it benefited my basketball game, trap shooting, driving, and throwing rocks at other kids around right-handed corners.

it killed me finding scissors to properly cut crap out in grade school. those shotty half-desks in college gave me a hard time as well. and i think my life expectancy’s a little hosed.

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by Net Ranger on Jul 5, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here.

Over 1/3 of my class was left handed in middle school. We would fight like mad to get the token pair of lefty scissors & baseball gloves.

But it really helps in basketball, that is for sure!

In Bayless I trust.
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by staylost on Jul 5, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always sweet

to get an inside perspective first hand. It’s a rare treat to get that type of feel for a player. Thanks for sharing your perspective, much appreciated. Just from that photo, it looks like he has a straight up killer mode.

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by pdxborn on Jul 5, 2010 11:40 AM PDT reply actions  

i can't really say on that front

I mean, he was just so much better than everyone else, no matter who we played. And AAU basketball isn’t like you run an offense. He does have court vision, i’d wager it’s better than Bayless’. But at the same time, he was playing against people he was clearly better than. On the other hand, Every year in college, Armon posted a better A-T ratio than Bayless did. Despite the lesser talented opposition, this should tell us something about his abilities. Also, He played with Babbitt who is clearly a player that dominates the ball on offense, and a lot in isolation (like Brandon), so he knows how to make himself useful in those situations. One thing I can say, he is strong with, and takes care of, the ball. He doesn’t treat the ball like Sergio did, more like how Nate wants someone to be, from what I gather about Nate. He makes the right play.

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by kajuayn on Jul 5, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cool

That’s all I can really ask for from a second round pick. I’m going to be very curious to see how he runs the team in Summer League

by nikolokolus on Jul 5, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, I think

they will definitely run him at pt, but he will likely share it with mills and play off-guard a lot.

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by kajuayn on Jul 5, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope they let Patty shoot and give the ball to the Hammer

because frankly AJ has a better chance at an NBA future in Portland than Mills does

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by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too True

Patty’s height might be an issue that his speed can’t entirely make up for.

There exists a quality which is nameless.

by 500dogs on Jul 5, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amen

Patty is a Damon clone to me … without as much talent. “just say no to tiny tot, shoot first point guard”

by nikolokolus on Jul 6, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bayless was a one and done

Hard to pinpoint where he’ll end up.

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by haildablazer on Jul 5, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

very true

Just an overview of their college production. And wasn’t there some debate as to whether Bayless even played Pg in college?

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by kajuayn on Jul 5, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Recruited by Lute Olsen as a PG.....

Shifted to SG by the interim coach cause they needed scoring and they had another PG.

by upper left corner on Jul 6, 2010 5:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

but will it blend?

"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.

"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.

by Tofu Anonymous on Jul 5, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec

Sweet article.

In KP I trusted!

by LaoTzu on Jul 5, 2010 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Good Work

I’m starting to get pretty fired up about RMON. Patty is going to have to step it up if he wants to stay in contention for that 3rd PG spot.

I don’t know about y’all, but I like the ongoing battle for the starting PG spot. Picking up CP3 or Nash would be amazing, but I’ve been digging the slug-fest. Last season’s Blake, Bayless, Miller battle was good sport. Now we’ve got Bayless, Miller, Williams, and RMON. I reckon Miller will have the honors out of the gate, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him overtaken by season’s end.

There exists a quality which is nameless.

by 500dogs on Jul 5, 2010 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Unless Miller's productivity falls off of a cliff

Then there’s no way any of the guards currently on the roster are going to supplant him; they’re either too young and inexperienced (Williams and Armon), or they don’t have the passing and vision he possesses (Mills and Bayless).

by nikolokolus on Jul 5, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed,

but at some point there will either have to be a transfer of power at that position, or a trade.

Miller is a great PG, and I’ve warmed up to him over the season, but he’s not the long term answer.

There exists a quality which is nameless.

by 500dogs on Jul 5, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

looking down the road in 2 years

everyone assumes Andre’s contract is not going to be renewed after next year, or that he and his EC will be dealt, but that’s not necessarily so. Here’s a scenario that’s just as likely

The Blazers start out the season with the RAMBO starting lineup. They all stay healthy and are cooking at the all-star break, leading the NW division comfortably and in contention for one of the top 3 WC seeds

Do you think the front office trades Miller (or Przy) when the team is doing so well? (What, are you loco?)

Meanwhile in this hypothetical-but-plausible scenario, Bayless is finally getting the PT he deserves, after playing behind Spanish guards for 2 years. Jerryd is continuing to develop his floor game and scoring well off the bench. The team advances to the WCF, and that’s as far as my crystal ball/imagination will take me

Then in July 2011 the “offseason of doubt” descends, and contracts are suspended until the new CBA is negotiated. The Blazers may not even need to make a decision to re-up Andre until after the lockout is over. By then, there are any number of possibilities. Miller could be out of shape and choose to retire. Or he could be traded. Or the new CBA might make his contract null and void. It’s impossible to predict.

But regardless of Andre’s status, coming out of the lockout the Blazers could feature a potential starting lineup of Bayless-Roy-Batum-LMA-Oden and have reserves like Johnson-Elliott and Babbitt coming off the bench. That’s assuming no deals are made and no FAs are signed in the next 11 months, and it also doesn’t take 2011 draft choices into account.

The team may or may not decide to resign Miller or Przybilla after the lockout, and the whole salary cap/CBA restructure could make doing this more feasible, or less. The point I’m trying to make is, just because the team has two EC’s it doesn’t necessarily mean they need to flip them now, or in February. If there’s injury trouble (again) or the team underachieves, then all bets are off. But if they are performing well and the roster is healthy, there may be no desire from the new GM to make any roster changes. And that would be just fine with me

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by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Fine by me

If we go into next season with the RAMBO lineup, I’m happy. All this craziness over Chris Paul and Tony Parker has been fun, but we’ve got a great team already. ‘Dre is a fine PG who probably has a few more years left in the tank. I don’t know if he’ll be able to lead us to a Championship, but who am I to judge? He’s certainly surprised me before.

I also dig your prediction of BORAB lineup for 2011-2. I’m a Bayless Believer, and I would love to see him finally get his shot at running point for this team. Some of my favorite moments from last season were watching him and Roy put up points together. Those two make a fearsome duo when they get going. The knock he continues to get is concerning poor court vision, but I think with Batum and Roy out there, the Blazers don’t need a true point.

The 2nd unit you threw out might come to be, but I’ve got a feeling Williams will be moved to bring in a vet to man the 2 guard (Raja Bell would be nice), and Babbitt will bust in the big show, leaving more room for Dante Cunningham at the 3.

There exists a quality which is nameless.

by 500dogs on Jul 5, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some of my favorite moments from last season were watching him and Roy put up points together

Those were brief moments. (I think someone went back and checked and Jerryd/Brandon have only played something like 72 total minutes together in the backcourt, during the last 2 seasons! You probably remember when they were in the game with Blake or Miller, as a 3-guard lineup.) If Portland can just find a new home for Rudy, the Rex-Roy backcourt can finally be unleashed—with hopefully devastating effect—on the rest of the NBA

Bayless Believer, and I would love to see him finally get his shot at running point for this team.

There’s no doubt that Jerryd will be defending the opposing PGs, but if he’s playing alongside Roy and/or Batum in 2012, there’s no guarantee that Rex would be the primary ballhandler. I could see a sharing of this duty between the 3 players, with the opportunity for each player to take advantage of mismatches. They could be a deadly trio, if Bayless/Batum continue their growth curve, and perhaps if a new coach is hired to replace Nate

Raja Bell could be acquired this summer without sacrificing Williams, but Bell doesn’t have more than 2 years left in his career. He’s a veteran wing to help now, not someone to be counted upon in the future.

I’m not sure about Babbitt, I have to see how hard he competes on defense before projecting his NBA future.

I do have high hopes for Dante, but he’s going to have to greatly improve his ballhandling skills to play very much SF, unless his only role is to park in the corner and shoot 3s, or to play pick and pop (which he’s extremely good at)

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by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

don't get too comfortable, I'll do some jazz improv from time to time

especially when a contending team drafts 3-4 rookies every June, when their veteran roster should only have room for 1

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by two4larue on Jul 6, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rookies are value.

They shouldn’t necessarily be in the 8 or 9 man rotation, but as injury insurance and scrubs, rookies have upside, and given the rookie pay scale provide more bang for your back (which becomes more important once you’ve extended Batum and Bayless and Oden and we’re in tax hell).

I agree that it would be better to have a vet than a rookie in the rotation, but drafting rookies is a very calculated strategy that historically gives good value. I’m pretty sure that’s the idea the scouts etc have too, considering how KP was talking about value above replacement player, and that’s what rookies are.

IMO.

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Jul 7, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand that strategy, for rebuilding teams

but first round draft picks have guaranteed 3 year contracts, so if you consistently add two of them every year, by the 3rd year you’ll have 6 of your 15 roster spots taken up with inexperienced players who probably won’t be consistent contributors, during the post season

at some point a contending team has to back off on the spigot, that’s all I’m saying. Don’t stop drafting, just don’t keep adding >2 kids every year and oversaturate the roster with youth. If you’ve got a good enough core, there should be some veterans who will want to sign on for MLE, BAE or even the veteran’s minimum for the chance to ride Roy and Greg’s coattails to the finals, as early as next summer. If the right (hungry) vets are added every offseason, they will come in a lot more handy than a couple of “deer in the headlights” rookies during the playoffs

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by two4larue on Jul 7, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Williams is a 2-guard

no right hand to speak of, so he can’t be a point

’Dre is the man, he gets stronger as the season goes on. I look forward to seeing Bayless at the 1 and Brandon at the 2, but neither of the rookies are going to push Miller to the bench

In fact, the Blazer’s alleged pursuit of Farmar indicates that they want a veteran #3 PG (which is smart, it’s time to win) That could punch AJ’s ticket to D-league, where he can play a lot and develop his pro game against stronger competition than the WAC

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by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't see Patty having a chance to keep a spot on this roster

If he did I think we would have seen Patty playing late and not Diener. I think that screamed a vote of no confidence for Patty

by dirtboydave on Jul 5, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was my interpretation too......

It may be that Nate just didn’t trust Mills and that a little more familiarity will give Patty a chance to earn that trust, but picking up Diener and drafting AJ both seem like an indication that they didn’t see enough in practice to be too excited about Mills. OTOH they are giving him a shot in SL.

by upper left corner on Jul 6, 2010 5:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Patty's 937k contract could be useful in a trade this summer

Vegas could be his audition to the league’s scouts and GMs

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by two4larue on Jul 6, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

It'll be a trade

I don’t see how it could be any other way.

by nikolokolus on Jul 5, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

You never know,

one of these guys might surprise us. I won’t count out any player that’s made it to the NBA, and if there’s a way one of them might grow to fit our need, that gives us a lot of flexibility.

To me, that sounds a lot better than being weighed down by a massive contract.

There exists a quality which is nameless.

by 500dogs on Jul 5, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for that awsome write up!

cannot wait for summer league go now

by twggyy on Jul 5, 2010 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

sick jerseys

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by cloudydays on Jul 5, 2010 2:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Yea

It was a pretty sick program. Our coach used to coach AAU in Chicago. He coached a bunch of guys including Dwayne Wades Brother. Our other coach started the team in 05 and sponsored it with his own $ through a foundation he started. So they paid for us to do everything, though it wasn’t as nice as a sponsor, it was still the move.

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by kajuayn on Jul 5, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, this is why I come here. 20 car pile-up WRECK!!!

Thanks for the inside perspective. A lot of people don’t get that about athletes. You just made me a lot more excited to see him play.

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by dario argento on Jul 5, 2010 2:40 PM PDT reply actions  

I liked all draft picks

So, this story just makes me feel even better. The only one I was a little worried about was E. Will. Which one are you in the picture?

by King Mar on Jul 5, 2010 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm #1

behind Armon actually lol.

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by kajuayn on Jul 5, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec

Suddenly I am super pumped about Armon. Thanks a ton for writing this up, good stuff.

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Jul 5, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Which one are you?

Thanks for the write up!!

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Jul 5, 2010 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Good to hear

I’m looking forward to seeing Bayless at the 1 less & less.

Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.

by Net Ranger on Jul 5, 2010 5:56 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I think you will be disappointed

Playoffs: PER of 15.7, AST% of 27.9. AST/TO of 3:1

You don’t keep a player performing at that level on the bench.

Odd to see you rooting against the success and development of a Blazer. Your mind seems to have been made up during his rookie season, and you seem completely unwilling to acknowledge his rapid development.

by upper left corner on Jul 6, 2010 5:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

The curse of small sample sizes

I thought Jerryd did really well in those 6 games, but it’s hard to hang your hat on that compared to the rest of the year when he was super streaky.

As for this comment,

Odd to see you rooting against the success and development of a Blazer. Your mind seems to have been made up during his rookie season, and you seem completely unwilling to acknowledge his rapid development.

I don’t claim to speak for Net Ranger, but most people root for the team and not individual players. If people don’t feel that Bayless at the point gives this team its best chance to win, then aren’t they entitled to that opinion?

by nikolokolus on Jul 6, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Especially since a certain somebody was a big player in the Bayless over Sergio debate.

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by staylost on Jul 6, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

and you seem completely unwilling to acknowledge his rapid development.

. Yes, so rapid it hurts. Another 2-3 years and he may have himself a season like Stephen Curry did.

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by Net Ranger on Jul 6, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

No doubt, Curry is a good player

Curry did have a modest edge in most of the stats, although “Nellie-ball” makes it next to impossible to reliably compare stats to any other team.

I would point out that Curry did play three years of college ball and is actually older than Bayless. I do think there are real questions about his defense although again it is impossible to judge when he is playing in Nellie’s system.

by upper left corner on Jul 7, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Impossible to judge?

That’s why they invented pace adjusted statistics.

by nikolokolus on Jul 8, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I saw you guys play down in Carson

you guys were on that norcal squad that beat stoneridge team with Carlos Boozer’s brother

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by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Jul 5, 2010 6:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice story Man!

Things like this are what add to Blazers Edge!

by Knobby on Jul 5, 2010 6:55 PM PDT reply actions  

good post

summer league here we come…

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by PDXBuckeye on Jul 5, 2010 7:58 PM PDT reply actions  

speaking of summer league

Did anybody catch the Turner vs Favors matchup. I caught the first half, and it was actually Terrence Williams who surprised me. The big kid from Notre Dame looked good too in the earlier game. Sorry I cant think of his name. Haro…something.

by King Mar on Jul 5, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

i did not

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by PDXBuckeye on Jul 5, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

harongoady or something

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by kajuayn on Jul 5, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was actually Terrence Williams who surprised me

That throw-down TW did at the end of the first half was nasty

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by two4larue on Jul 5, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew he had hops

but his handles and quickness is what really surprised me. I saw him a few times at Louisville, but didn’t see much of him with NJ. Still needs to work on his jumper, but I was pretty impressed. Holliday also had a good game but I already knew he was good. I caught the second half on replay, and E.T. actually turned out a double double or at least came close. I’m not sure what his rebound total ended at but he had like 9 boards with a few mins left.

by King Mar on Jul 6, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

can't wait to see some actual basketball

This is the hardest time of the year for me, July – October, worse than tax time. And all of this CP3 to Portland and LBJ to wherever talk is making me ill. GIve me something Blazer related.

by dirtboydave on Jul 5, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get Ohio State football in September

that is a blessing for me!

"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man

by PDXBuckeye on Jul 5, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

so December is always a bummer for you, then?

sorry. had to. love to the vest.

Ryan Gomes: forever a Blazer in our hearts.

by musicdaniel on Jul 7, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is sometime the first week of january that sucks

We don’t lose the consulation bowl games, just the Big Time ones on or after the 1st! Although dusting off Oregon last season in the Rose Bowl was very pleasent indeed!

I smell a National Championship this year if our new linebackers are as good as reported. Gotta a good vibe.

"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man

by PDXBuckeye on Jul 7, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great post

For some reason i just have a good feeling about Armon.

by moflow on Jul 5, 2010 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Best Post I’ve read in a long time!

Romance me with that Roy rainbow shot which took flight from way beyond the arc and sailed so high that before it came back down to earth sealing the victory, it kissed the rafters and said "You're mine baby."

by Blazer1342 on Jul 6, 2010 2:51 AM PDT reply actions  

whoopdee freaking doo

He’s from the WAC. Can anyone name a great…wait, how about just a GOOD NBA player who came from the WAC? My brain says Keith Van Horn from Univ Utah. WE DRAFTED TWO FREAKING DUDES FROM THE WAC???!!!!

slimkim

by slimkim on Jul 7, 2010 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Andre Miller?

Ever hear of

Joe Caldwell
Mel Daniels
Lionell Hollins
Tom Chambers
Michael Cage
Tim Hardaway
or Shawn Marion?

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 8, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

basketball reference says he played at LA tech

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/millspa01.html

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 8, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The matrix, Andre and Lionel hollins

are the only ones in there worth mentioning. And only Andre went to a WAC school. UNLV is Mountain West and AZ state is PAC 10. I’ll give you Andre, forgot about him.

slimkim

by slimkim on Jul 8, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are underestimating Hardaway.

Besides that, yeah.

"I don’t give a ZACH about no trade rumors. As long as somebody ‘CTC’ at the end of the day, I’m with them. For all you that don’t know what CTC means, that’s ‘Cut the Check. I just go out there and play. Again, somebody just ’CTC'." -Sheed

by idoltime on Jul 8, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mel Daniels was an absolute stud (career 19/15)

In his prime I’d take him over anyone on that list—he won several ABA championships with the Pacers back in the early ’70s—that Indy team was better than 90% of the NBA teams at the time

George McGinnis
Roger Brown
Darnell Hillman
Bob Netolicky
Freddie Lewis

they were fun to watch back when the NBA was pretty blase

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 8, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

the school vs conference affiliations have shifted, over the years

the list is legit, at the time they were drafted those players all came out of the WAC

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 8, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, that isn't the WAC, but similar conference strength.

Other NBA players from mid-majors:

Karl Malone
Scottie Pippen
Dennis Rodman
Steve Nash
Kevin Duckworth
Terry Porter
Chris Dudley
Jack Sikma
Xavier McDaniel
Artis Gilmore
Larry Bird
Doug Collins
Walt Frazier
ANDRE MILLER

That’s just off the top of my head. Sometimes good players come from nowhere.

by mattisnotfrench on Jul 8, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miller Time

If the Blazers do win a championship in the next two years, it will be because they stop tinkering and let ANDRE MILLER run this team.

by Jeffroslam on Jul 9, 2010 8:40 AM PDT reply actions  

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