Quick Story on Rudy Fernandez: Update link to story now added
by PDXBuckeye on Jul 27, 2010 8:02 PM PDT
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I emailed Quick pointing out people are frustrated and posting late is adding to the aggravation. I also pointed out that teasing a dramatic story that wasn't all that dramatic could hurt readership over the long run. Here was his response:
I never said it was a dramatic story - I said drama was headed the Blazers way ... the story is about to be posted, but has been toned down because of late developments ... Rudy (no surprise) has demanded to be traded, and Cho has stepped up and is on the brink of executing a trade (probably to Boston), but Chicago and New York are in the picture. ..
But it looks like a deal is going to go down soon, so Rudy's camp didn't in their words "go for the juggular" ... sorry about the delay, dealing with a lot of sensitive sources
Here is the link to Quick's story:
Trail Blazers looking for a fast trade involving Rudy Fernandez
Here is how the story opens:
At the urging of Rudy Fernandez and his agent, the TrailBlazers have engaged in accelerated trade discussions to deal the disgruntled, oncepopular shooting guard to one of three Eastern Conference teams.
Boston, Chicagoand New Yorkare all in the running to land the 6-foot-6 Spaniard, who set an NBA rookierecord two seasons ago by making 156 three pointers.
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JUGGLAR!!!
What is that supposed to mean, and who are we looking to get back in the trade?
Oden shall return!
I dislike juggalo's almost as much as Laker's
Is it to much to ask that we build a championship roster and stay below the luxury tax...
Why wouldn’t you like juggalo’s almost? His almost is just as good (well, bad) as anyone elses.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
Banning "chat speak" is like banning apostrophes. There would be no "you're" if some punk kid in the 1700s hadn't been a rebel.
by haildablazer on Jul 28, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I just hope Rich gets decent value, I'm sure it's a challenge
On the one hand, it’s good for Portland to “get out ahead” of the story and flip Rudy before things got ugly and Rudy’s trade value dropped even further
OTOH, if Fernandez’ camp could only kept their pieholes shut, the Blazers could have had better opportunities to flip him after the Worlds.
I guess Rudy “didn’t want the pressure” of having to audition for his next NBA job in Turkey. I haven’t been so PO’d at a Blazer player since the days of Ruben, Rasheed and Bonzi, this weak sauce of a Spaniard needs to tell his tale walking, and the team will be much better off without him
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by two4larue on Jul 27, 2010 8:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I hope it's Chicago
and I hope we get Taj Gibson in return for Rudy (and probably some other assets)
by jetcity on Jul 27, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gibson is not availible for Rudy
You’ll get James Johnson… an Athletic project for the back of your bench. He has great handles for a 3/4, and some people believe he’s even capable of playing the 2. He has the physical talent to be a starter, but he doesn’t know the game well enough right now… will he learn? Who knows.
I don’t know who Boston would offer, but if I were a Portland fan I would rather have Johnson than Daniels or Bradley (who they are most likely to offer.) Bradley is a decent prospect too, but he’s a project shooting guard in a point guard’s body…
And most importantly Johnson is a Ninja
Is it to much to ask that we build a championship roster and stay below the luxury tax...
Decent value
probably means a draft choice that could be packaged at the deadline.
The Blazers brain trust is probably banking on NO having a rather uninspiring record come February. This trade will likely bring an asset to satisfy NO’s desire to get young pieces for the future.
NO’s mistake, however, is that they don’t make the deal now, and demand Oden & Batum. Cho would probably do it, but he won’t later, not once he sees Greg healthy. Greg’s health has brought such disappointment that many forget what a beast he is when he actually plays. The kid is due, past due, and I don’t think he’ll be available at any price come February. Either that or he’ll break his ____________. I mean, that’s how it goes, no?
by damonrayhymer on Jul 27, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
if there is anyone that deserves a break
it is Greg on the injury front…
I usually don’t feel bad for big time pro athletes in any circumstance, but this situation has me feeling a bit sorry for the kid
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
One great year,
that’s all we ask.
At least for a while.
by damonrayhymer on Jul 27, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
*one great year that is not a lock out year
Is it to much to ask that we build a championship roster and stay below the luxury tax...
A lock out
would be the ultimate failure, a failure of OWNERSHIP.
I believe the quarrel is between the owners, not owner v. players.
It mirrors the greatest of our real world issues, the haves & have nots. Revenue Sharing is the painful answer, especially for NY & LA, and they are naturally reluctant.
by damonrayhymer on Jul 28, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
not blab to the Spanish media
let the Blazers quietly shop Rudy, encourage him to play well in Turkey
I guess they saw what LeBron did an thought it was a great idea, even though their client is an average NBA player at best
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CHO-KE Hold!!
Put the new and improved cho-ke hold on Boston and get us someone good! But who do they have that we even want, micro-nate?
Oden shall return!
I like it
But it just doesn’t have the ring of “Pritch Slap”
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
Banning "chat speak" is like banning apostrophes. There would be no "you're" if some punk kid in the 1700s hadn't been a rebel.
by haildablazer on Jul 27, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Rich is taking out Kevin's trash
comes with the territory
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I suppose trading Rudy is like a "GM in training assignment", but what's the rush? You got all summer Cho.
Matty Walker: You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man. - Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 27, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure he's got l summer, if he wants the Blazers to be a punching bag
“The Blazers fired their last GM on draft day, now their new GM can’t even trade a former star Spanish shooting guard”
A-Woj can think of a lot worse things about the Blazers to say than I can, without working up an appetite
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
You want to let A-Woj be our GM? What's with making this into a drama like Quick?
Be patient and let Cho figure out the best move. Maybe he can get something ok for Rudy right away, but maybe it’s better to wait and use him in a bigger deal. Let Cho figure it out. I’m sure he (or Paul Allen) isn’t worried about A-Woj, and Rudy ain’t going anywhere.
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by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 28, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
over on the other thread
the spec is that Rudy may have threatened to “retire” as an escape clause
and Cho was working the phones all day (according to Barrett) so I don’t think he’s taking the patient approach, probably because he knows more about the situation than JQ does
BTW, you’ve done a nice job of stirring the BE pot for the last 24 hours. Canzano would be proud of the effort. What else would we have talked about, other than 3 new assistant coaches, perhaps? How long has it been since the coaching staff has had that kind of turnover, 2004?
Quick doesn’t have to be “the story” if we refuse to take the bait
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IMO
They are in a rush so as they can offer Mills and Johnson a contract. As it is right now, there is only room for one on the roster. either or both is much better options than Rudy is showing.
I have stated before that the one that will be hurt by this is Rudy. His game and playing time was down mostly because of injury. That is the part I don’t understand about Rudy. He wanted the dynamics of his freshman year. When he had Sergio, when he wasn’t hampered by a injury, and he never had a chip on his shoulder. How is any of that the Blazers fault. If injuries happen at his next destination is the same thing going to happen.
hg
yep
it is good to show he is decisive. I am sure if he felt there was value in waiting he would have put this off until after worlds, but I don’t think Ch thought teams would raise or lower their perception of Rudy due to that.
It is a good way to demonstrate that decisiveness without coming in and wielding the hatchet so to speak. Particularly with the upheaval around the Blazers from the injury plagued season to the change in front office and coaching staff…
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
what I meant, was
KP has had since at least December to flip Rudy. He tried at the deadline and again on draft night and still couldn’t get it done. (Either that, or Paul wouldn’t let him) Regardless, Cho has to do the dirty work, and if he receives an uninspiring return for Rudy, that perceived failure won’t be going on Kevin’s ledger…just like John Nash had to find a taker for Ruben Patterson, etc
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Why the cheap shot at KP?
It is a heck of a lot easier to dump Rudy now, with Mathews signed. There is no pressure to get a SG in return, especially with all the guards the team drafted.
by upper left corner on Jul 28, 2010 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't want "easy" solutions from my Blazer GM
I’d like to see him be able to identify when an asset has reached max value, look down the road and see a potential train wreck coming like a telegraphed pass, and then have the guts to flip the asset even if the fans squeal with displeasure
That’s when I’ll know we’ve got a potential exec of the year in the front office
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It is a lot easier to see the train wreck after it happens
I posted another comment to you elsewhere, along the lines that it would have been tough to trade Rudy last summer when the team really needed 3 pt shooting. Miller had been signed and that meant a reduced role for Blake.
Rudy’s limitations were pretty clear last summer, but i don’t think you or anybody else can rightfully say they expected the massive regression we ended up watching.
by upper left corner on Jul 28, 2010 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Last summer I said he should be traded before he made demands
and I predicted the trade demand would arrive within 12-18 months
If the Blazers had decided to flip Rudy last summer, they could’ve acquired shooting (and more) in exchange for him.
As far as his “massive regression” goes, part of that was his back (which no one knew about last summer, until fall camp) and then it was his discontent re: his role and the fact that he wasn’t dealt in Feb, like his agent had requested in Dec
Don’t accuse me of having 20/20 hindsight, I must’ve posted these concerns 50 times over the last year-plus
FWIW, I don’t see any such blowup on the horizon for Jerryd Bayless, Rex knows his role and doing the right thing, staying quiet and working his backside off
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We had another SG his name is Bayless
Is it to much to ask that we build a championship roster and stay below the luxury tax...
While the 95.5 guys may agree with you, I don't.
Bayless is primarily a PG. He can defend that position effectively, while he struggles to defend against larger SGs. That makes him a PG. You may not like scoring PGs with higher utilization rates and somewhat lower AST%, but Bayless is still a PG. He is a particular type of PG, and he is a young guy trying to learn the hardest position on the floor after playing out of position in college.
If you don’t want to take my word for it go look up the stats. Bayless has a far higher AST% than any back-up SG in the league. He has a good handle. He has good speed. He needs to develop his skills but even that does not make him a SG.
by upper left corner on Jul 28, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike and Jay were dropping hints all afternoon re: Rudy
Tell the Oregonian you won’t buy their fishwrap as long as Jason and John are on the staff, that should encourage them to shut down the hype machine
But probably they’d just be glad to hear that someone out there is paying attention to their drivel and chalk it up as ratings victory
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Take out a subscription to the Oregonian...
…and cancel it immediately.
It’s painful to even listen to Jason or John. Drivel. Dreck. Drama.
parsing dramatic vs drama
is pretty legalistic…
I just won’t fall for this type of comment by him again…
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
What drama? There is no drama. This is what happens when "journalists" start appearing on radio programs.
Matty Walker: You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man. - Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 27, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
IMO, Quick doesn't deserved to be lumped in with Clownzano
I agree this was not one of his better moments, but Quick is well sourced, generally accurate, and reasonably knowledgeable about the game. None of those comments applies to John.
by upper left corner on Jul 28, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
and fanshots are posted about it
something had to replace CP3
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Here is the list of tradeable player's from the three teams
bulls:Luol Deng,Taj Gibson,James Johnson,Joakim Noah,Derrick Rose,Kurt Thomas
celtics:Glen Davis,Tony Gaffney,Kevin Garnett,Kendrick Perkins,Rajon Rondo,Rasheed Wallace
Knicks:Kelenna Azubuike,Wilson Chandler,Eddy Curry,Toney Douglas,Danilo Gallinari,Anthony Randolph,Ronny Turiaf,Bill Walker
by Daddygr33nJeans on Jul 27, 2010 8:16 PM PDT reply actions
Could we be thinking about snagging Baby Davis?
Glen’s salary is $3 mil for one year, Rudy $1.25, guess we could include Jeff?
It was suggested on Barrett's Blog
that Jerryd Bayless would be the other player with Rudy for Baby Davis
hg
Perfect, and completely attainable
Great job on filling us in by the way!
Well cheers to you
I am actually alright with his response too. I do think he could have played it down from the get go a bit more, however who knows if he was tugged around just as much as we were.
I like his writing style
if he just wouldn’t follow canzano’s hype machine model.
I don’t read Canzano at all anymore because he never really sources anything. Quick does mostly good work, but tends to try to hype things up…
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
You know what?
I bet its Rasheed. He was planning on retiring anyway, so we buy out his contract, and it opens a roster spot for both Patty and Armon.
I'll take Anthony Randolph
But NOT Big Baby, we are about to get rid of one we dont need another!
Oden shall return!
Not a huge fan of Big Baby either...
But he is the best value coming back if we do trade with boston
Any idea why we don't wait and package?
What are the cons of waiting it out and using Rudy in a package deal with New Jersey, etc. It just seems like a much wiser deal to throw Rudy in with expiring contracts to get a player of real value.
by Buckwill on Jul 27, 2010 8:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
at this rate, Rudy's value will be cheaper than dirt.
I’m not sure how we can expect “to get a player of real value” back in return.
if there are 3 teams with interest, there's gonna be some kind of bidding. this is good news.
It's time for Monster Rain!
we had to pay sacramento 3million to get rid of sergio
he didn’t cause this much media attention.
Jeff Pendergraph:
FGM - 3
FGA - 111
Min - 30
Reb - 10
by Tofu Anonymous on Jul 28, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing in Boston that I want.
Nor New York.
Chicago remains interesting.
In Bayless I trust.
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I hate to burst some people's bubbles,
but it’s highly unlikely the Bulls give up Taj for Rudy. We need him in case Boozer goes down (which isn’t farfetched, lol).
SG isn’t a glaring hole for us, so it’s not like Rudy or Die. To put it another way: we need Taj more than we need Rudy.
We’d probably give up the Charlotte pick though.
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
by Sir Buckets on Jul 27, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you promise to sweep Charlotte during the regular season?
In Bayless I trust.
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If Rudy demands a trade...
won’t he be fined by the league? And won’t it hurt his value if other teams know we are being strong-armed into trading him? What kind of leverage does he have?
well
it seemed he would have been willing to pay the fine, but it appears Cho is working with him on this so all will be relatively peaceable for the time being
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
Nice work, Buck.
Posting machine!
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
Banning "chat speak" is like banning apostrophes. There would be no "you're" if some punk kid in the 1700s hadn't been a rebel.
just bored and worn out at the moment
vegging on the computer is easy
thanks though
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
Thanks Nate
Nate: He’s not a guy who is just going to come down and jack up a shot. He needs to get into a flow, into a rhythm, and that’s not a backup role.
That should make it easier to trade him.
Matty Walker: You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man. - Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 27, 2010 9:07 PM PDT reply actions
same as Martell
players that need a lot of minutes to get into a flow should not be on the bench (or in the rotation) of a contending team
Hopefully Matthews and Bayless will hit the floor ready to immediately contribute, every night. If not, Cho needs to find some veteran role players who can
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Speaking of Martell
is it at all possible his agent forced a trade? The more time goes by, the less that trade makes any sence.
maybe
it does not seem to be Marty’s style and agents need to keep their players happy, but maybe the agent swayed it. I think the deal made sense though, Marty would have been tougher to move when we inevitably would have had to with all the salary increases coming down the pipe…Move him now when you can get something for him. I think Pritch really liked Babbit and that sealed the deal.
The Blazers also brought him into to the league and nursed him into a professional. Nate knew Webster was not a good fit for the role so he probably wanted to cut him loose to see if he could become the player he has the chance to be.
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
I think it was primarily about getting Batum more minutes. He has to play at least 30 minutes this season
or the Blazers are fooling themselves about what they think he can become. So there weren’t many minutes left for Martell, who can’t really play the 2 or 4. It was also obvious that Rudy would be gone, so trading Martell was the thing to do to make room for a quality backup 2/3 that would take both Rudy and Martell’s minutes. Trading Martell to Minn really had very little to do with saving money since they knew Martell and Rudy would both be traded sometime this summer.
I had predicted much earlier that a backup 2/3 would be their top priority this summer and that Webster would be traded for sure, although I had hoped for a more veteran 2/3. I hope Matthews works out. I wish he was more experienced and a little bigger (he’s small to play SF).
Rudy’s agent indicated they first tried to trade Rudy for that #16 pick, but his agent shot down the deal with Minn. So it looks like Minn wanted Webster, who’s higher salary also allowed Minn to get rid of Gomes, which they had already been trying to move out.
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by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 27, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
you do not need to trade marty to get batum more minutes though
you just give him more minutes
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
which was my point with my orginal comment
Nate moved because he couldn’t give him the time he needs
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
But if you are going to attract a good free-agent he has to see minutes for himself.
We needed a good backup for Roy (Rudy was going and wasn’t the best backup for Roy anyway) but you can’t attract a good free agent with only 10-12 minutes available for him. The logical thing to do was to clear the backup 2 and backup 3 spots for a free-agent and either use Martell to get that person or to invest in a longer term player for the future (which is what happened in this case).
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by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 28, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
maybe
but it is risky moving the guy first, before that Wesley Matthews signing in this case, it is hard to see why you take the risk unless you have other motives.
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
Born or Buchanan also said they tried to send Webster to a place he could play more
which was nice of them, but then Kahn went and cluttered up his roster with wings
Matthews may be small to play SF, but he’s got a lot more “dog” in him than taller players, like Outlaw. Between Wesley and Dante, the backup SF role should be in scrappy hands. Keeping Webster around “just in case” Batum hurts his shoulder again wasn’t going to be a better alternative
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Agreed, Cunningham made it even easier (more logical) to trade Martell.
So how tall is Matthews really? First I heard 6’5, but now I’m hearing people say he’s really closer to 6’3. One of the news guys said that on TV Sunday night.
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by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 28, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Draft Express says 6'5
but they don’t list any pre-draft camp measurements (wingspan, etc) in his profile like with some other players
Sloan had Wesley defending Melo in the playoffs and he held his own, that’s good enough for me. Buck Williams played PF at 6’8 225, so did Rodman. It’s not the tale of the tape that matters, it’s the “motor” in the defender. (LMA could use a tune-up, hopefully Buck has the right certification) Matthews accepts the challenge and relishes slaying Goliath
Under-size matters the most when we’re talking about PGs who are < 6’ 180, then no amount of scrap and pluck can make up the difference
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So all you know is what Draft Express says?
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by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 28, 2010 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions
there are other sources
but I don’t know if anyone has taken his height measurement without shoes and posted it, online. That’s usually done at predraft combines and he may not have been invited to the “right” one for DX to receive the data
When fall camp arrives, check him out when he’s standing next to other Blazers, that’s one way of finding out how relatively tall he is. Matthews supposedly weighs 220 so that makes him bettter equipped to defend SFs than Roy (205) regardless of an extra inch or two of head height
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I think defending the SF is as more about strength and lateral quickness than it is about height.
Mathews is a solid 220, which is why he was able to defend Melo.
by upper left corner on Jul 28, 2010 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, agreed. But I'm still curious how tall he really is.
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by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 28, 2010 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess the part that makes the least sence to me
is the Blazers, or at least Blazers fans, want a star PG for this team. Batum seems to be the player that can make a trade like that happen. If the Blazers move Batum for a CP3 or Harrris, the Webster Trade makes even less sence.
rudy pryz trade idea
Pryz and Rudy to Orlando for Gortat and Orton works.
Boston?
Not quite sure who we would get back in return. Only guy I can find is moving Big Baby- to make room for Jermaine O’Neal.
Bulls are intriguing with Taj Gibson & James Johnson.
Knicks with Ronny Turiaf as well.
What also matters is if any team is willing to deal their draft picks.
Silent Swagger.
I would love to get Turiaf in return if Rudy is going to be gone anyways.
The Blazers can never have too many bigs.
The player swap would work, but not the salaries
Would need to add additional players – Rudy and Jeff would come close, but would still come up a bit short.
Rudy and Joel for Gallinari and Turiaf would work salary wise, doubt the Knicks let Gallinari go for such a deal.
Rudy and Joel to Boston for Rasheed and Glen Davis would work, with both of Boston players being part of a larger deal (Paul?) as the Hornets would love to land Rasheed’s contract as he plans to retire and would come right off their books.
Knicks or Bulls
forget Boston, we could do Rudy straight up for Taj Gibson, or Rudy + Pendy for Anthony Randolph
Oden shall return!
Can someone clarify for me if Rudy has the option of retiring from the NBA to sign a Euro contract?
And is that what technically happened with Childress and why the Hawks retained his rights?
And would that have boned the blazers?
Thanks
I think that we would still retain his rights if he played
But interesting question.
In KP I trusted!
Rudy and Bayless
The moment the Blazers picked up Matthews, the Jazz’s starting 2 guard, and then added 2 more guards in the draft, including Williams, also a 2 guard, Fernandez was gone. After all, we now have 7 guards on the roster, and the big 4 right now are Roy, Miller, Matthews and Bayless. The other 3 are bench warmers.
The next player that is likely to go could well be Bayless. Like it or not, he’s now been relegated almost exclusively playing behind an iron man, Miller, and even dividing up those minutes with the rookies. Further, all of this hand holding with Paul and even Parker sent a pretty clear message to Bayless that the Blazers don’t seem to see him as their future starting PG, nor do the fans – at least most of them. So, it doesn’t seem to me, and very likely to Bayless, that he has much of a future in Portland.
An Open Question for PDXBuckeye......................
PDXBuckeye,
My question for you is if you obtained permission from Mr. Quick to publically publish a private corerespondence
between yourself and him? In the electronic world there is the expectaition of privacy and respect when private
email is exchanged and not obtaining permission prior to making these private conversations public is not only
bad form, but reduces the level of trust between the parties. While some folks here may not like Mr. Quick’s style
of journalism, he does deserve our respect as a person and for the job he does. He has developed a relationship
bvased upon trust of his sources and is able to gather information that otherwise may not be available to the average
fan. Like most people in the field, his job relies upon this trust his sources have in him to report what is “on the record”
and keep “off the record” conversations just that. If you were to call the Blazers front office and inquire about pending
transactions I am sure they will politely brush you off. They don’t know you and have no relationship with you. But they
speak with folks such as Mr. Quick. These folks are our link to the organization, otherwise we are religated to the
well crafted press releases done by them. My guess is that any journalist doing a story asks thier source “what
is off the record” before publishing a story. Hopefully you have done this too! Mr. Quick deserves that respect.
Mr. Quick stated he was dealing with sensitive sources and had toned his story down and you have published this
pubically after Mr. Quick choose to remove some of this information from his story.
My guess is that permission was not requested which will ultimately lead to further distrust between Mr. Quick and
his readers and the likelyhood of future access to Mr. Quick being about as slim as Rudy being a Blazer in ‘10/’11.
MSPatton
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If "It's Only a Game", then why do we keep score?
by MSPatton on Jul 28, 2010 8:41 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Do you really think the primary blazer beat reporter really has off the record conversations with fans?
C’mon, get realistic here. A reporter of Quick’s stature knows better than to divulge anything in an email with an inquiring fan that would risk getting him in trouble. It’s safe to assume that Quick expects that anything he writes to anybody, without the “off the record” prerequisite, is fair game to be shared with the world.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
So You Assume.....
That Quick assumes anything he writes in an email without “off the record” is fair game to post pubically.
Poor assumption IMHO
BTW, What do you think he would want to be responsibe for?
A) Printing “sensitive” info in his own article or,
B) Being questioned why his quote of said “sensitive” info was posted by a third patry on a fan forum
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If "It's Only a Game", then why do we keep score?
you can't
talk to a reporter and not have the conversation published without stating off the record up front.
same rules apply to JQ, if he did not want that message out, he would have stated so.
in fact, he probably used PDX.B to get the info out without publishing it himself.
"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks
Rudy and Bayless for Conley
Is it to much to ask that we build a championship roster and stay below the luxury tax...
*sigh*
i love the guy but he’s acting like a P-U-N-K. I’m glad Nate is taking the high ground on this one.
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