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Ooooo boy.
It’s gonna get interesting…
"I have contract with Portland.... I have contract with Portland... I have contract with Portland." - Rudy Fernandez
very solid league source...
this guy been talkin to KP?
Being insistent when you're wrong is just really, really annoying.
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jul 22, 2010 11:31 AM PDT reply actions
Don't play with my emotions, Fletcher Mackel!!!
Being insistent when you're wrong is just really, really annoying.
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jul 22, 2010 11:32 AM PDT reply actions
lets do this!!
In my book, everyone (save BRoy) is tradeable to get CP3… I would even trade a package of LMA + Batum to get him.. Lets do this!!!
Today?
This is everyday with Blazers’ Edge for me.
"[S]ince men enjoyed very great leisure, they used it to pursue many kinds of commodities unknown to their fathers, and that was that first yoke they placed upon themselves without thinking about it, and the first source of evils the prepared for their descendants. For, besides continuing thus to soften body and mind, as these commodities had lost almost all their pleasantness through habit, and as they had at the same time degenerated into true needs, being deprived of them became much more cruel than possessing them was sweet; and people were unhappy to lose them without being happy to have them." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
by T Darkstar on Jul 22, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
count me in on
not being productive… AT ALL.
"Batum must be french for: being at the right place at the right time" -
-StudMuffin15 @ Rufus On Fire
"Juwan "The Clipper Killer" Howard" - Natedog1977 @ ClipsNation
" I would trade our entire team for Brandon Roy"
- Slick4President @ Indy Cornrows
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jul 22, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Zilch
"I have contract with Portland.... I have contract with Portland... I have contract with Portland." - Rudy Fernandez
The problem is
That I am teaching summer school and having a very hard time focusing now. The kids are on break and I can’t stay off of here
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
yeah I have a summer school final today
let hope I don’t lose my 4.0 GPA for a summer course
C*mcast sucks!
by Blazermaniac77 on Jul 22, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Internet braggart!
In Bayless I trust.
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got me
but was a legitimate concern
C*mcast sucks!
by Blazermaniac77 on Jul 22, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I replied to an email a couple fo hours ago
so I did my work for the day. Now it’s time to think of possible CP3 to Portland scenarios
picture me rollin'
I'm annoyed when my phone rings and find myself being short with the customers.
"I have contract with Portland.... I have contract with Portland... I have contract with Portland." - Rudy Fernandez
The Heart of Blazer Nation is beginning to pound!!!
Here’s your opportunity Mr. Allen!! The one you’ve been waiting for! Make it happen!
Time to make up for the GM mess…
Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!
"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"
We're the Big Ten, who the F@*# are YOU??!?!?!
by Andrew Tolliver on Jul 22, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know who this guy is but I like him
I am going to head out to the airport and pitch a tent with my “Welcome to Portland CP3” sign if anyone wants to join me.
by Escrote on Jul 22, 2010 11:40 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
hmm....
We do have a lot of depth, so even if we traded a few players to get him we’d still have enough depth.
The NBA- so easy a Kaman can do it
I have a funny feeling in my pants
what is this sensation?
picture me rollin'
by Utah Sucks on Jul 22, 2010 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Wow. Super-Rec.
spews soda from nose
"Batum must be french for: being at the right place at the right time" -
-StudMuffin15 @ Rufus On Fire
"Juwan "The Clipper Killer" Howard" - Natedog1977 @ ClipsNation
" I would trade our entire team for Brandon Roy"
- Slick4President @ Indy Cornrows
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jul 22, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
What happens when the trade is completed?
Rostergasm?
by HailOden! on Jul 22, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
If we get CP3 that is definitely going to cause a major ROSTERGASM!!!!!!!!!!
by LaMarvelous on Jul 22, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So wait, let me get this straight...
We rosterbate the blazers until they have a giant rostergasm and that causes them to shoot championships everywhere? That’s how it works right?
by sammymohawk on Jul 22, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Such a horrible analagy!
Congratulations, we are disgusting!
In Bayless I trust.
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All over Lebron, Bosh, and Wade's faces. The ultimate rosteracial.
by Coastie07 on Jul 22, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
and there is the new hilarious low of BE
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rec!
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jul 26, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
love....for CP3.
"What people need to know is that those pictures were taken a year and a half ago, and I've grown since then." - Greg Oden
by dario argento on Jul 22, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm still not totally on board yet.
Depends on how much we’d have to give up.
"Nicolas! You're the strongest boy in the world!"
For example, if it includes both Batum and Oden?
I say no deal in that case.
"Nicolas! You're the strongest boy in the world!"
Oden and Roy are the only two
anyone else, in my mind, is fair game
picture me rollin'
by Utah Sucks on Jul 22, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
anyone else is fair game
but certain combinations are not okay in my book. Heck, Oden if we get back Okafor and don’t give out Batum I’d be fine with. Batum, Miller, Bayless, Przybilla around there I’m okay but not ecstatic about the trade. CP3 is a GREAT basketball player, but hes only a PG, and not a defensive one. Defense wins championships. PGs are expendable.
by avalancheman on Jul 22, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
for me it’s
Oden OR Batum, but not both
Oden OR Camby, but not both (and Okafor has to be coming back to trade either one)
have to assume Miller/Przy are included in any deal
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
No way Oden. Oden can do more to get Blazers a championship than Paul.
Matty Walker: You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man. - Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 22, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
no Trade of ODen Period
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jul 22, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
That NO guy is crazy
There is no way the Blazers do a deal for CP3 with Batum AND Oden. It’s gotta be one or the other.
I could do anyone else as well
I can’t do EVERYONE else, and some people sound like they would be cool with that. That would be suicide!
"I don't feel like I'm going to be happy or complete until I'm an All-Star. My favorite example is that it took Chauncey six, seven years. And Chauncey's been a mentor for me, and I've learned a lot from him in these last couple years. So, people can say what they want, but I'll get the last laugh. " - Bayless
by StuckeyDuck on Jul 23, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Not Defensive?
CP3 averages 2.4 steals per game for his career and owns the record for most consecutive games with at least one steal at 108. He’s one of the best defensive PGs in the league. And he’s also not just any PG. PGs are NOT expendable when they average 20+ points and 10+ steals per game. He’s an MVP type player when healthy (that part is a bit dicey with him though). MVP-type guys like him are ones you go get by any means necessary if they’re available.
I would still do this. We still have solid bigs...
plus we’d probably be getting Okafor in the deal.
Okafor has a bad contract!
And anyway, I don’t think you can consider Oden one of the “pieces” they are talking about…. sounds more like they mean role players (i.e. BATUM)
Portland > Tacoma
by CaptainSexyJacob on Jul 22, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
yes lets keep oden and Batum and end next season around 5th place out west!!! sounds like a plan to me!! better to be safe then sorry!!! I would hate to gamble an actually win a championship!!
Or...
let’s give up Oden and Batum and get ourselves back in the lottery… or worse yet 8th seed… if CP3 gets hurt and is out for half the season.
Not worth the risk…
I say Oden and Batum is too high of a price for Paul. Especially if he isn’t signed to a long term deal.
A feeling, like when we one the number one pick!
Didn’t think it was going to happen to Portland, and then it did!
What's happening to me?????
I think I found my special purpose
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on Jul 22, 2010 11:46 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Oh my god.
This may be the real deal. Cho, this is your chance to usurp KP as Portland’s favorite GM of all time, and you can do it in your first freaking week on the job!!! Get it done baby!!!
"What people need to know is that those pictures were taken a year and a half ago, and I've grown since then." - Greg Oden
Its possible, but I’m not willing to call him the favorite of all time…yet.
Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!
"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"
We're the Big Ten, who the F@*# are YOU??!?!?!
by Andrew Tolliver on Jul 22, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Why why why?
Why do so many people think Batum is more valuable than Oden?
I can’t fathom the Batum ferver. He’s a good player than could be a really good player. Maybe an all-star. Oden could be the best center in the league for years.
by Jeffe Portland on Jul 22, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Oden is hugely more valuable
There’s were only one “can’t trade” slot allowed Portland, Oden gets that one slot.
Keep Portland Weird.
not more valuable
but maybe more likely to be on the court and contributing longer into the future?
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Not better than Oden... Just too valuable to trade...
I understand pessimists wanting to cut the ties and trade Oden, but totally disagree with them… The dude is barely of legal age… He could easily turn things around and have a decade of dominance ahead of him.
Nic is not more valuable than Oden, but if you think defense wins championships, then you want to keep a guy like Nic. He has also shown much progress each year he’s been here. His length is what people like. Guys with long arms make great NBA defenders…
The problem is, will NO make a deal without Nic or Greg? Now remember, Monty is down there now, so he obviously knows our personnel as well as we do… and he must have some targets in mind, and given all the time he spent working on Nic’s shot, and Bayless, I think, those guys are probably in his sights…
I still think this can get it done: Miller, Pryz, Rudy, and Camby….
If we can do Camby instead of Oden or Batum....
Cho becomes the GM of the year. Although it would be even better if they could sell Bayless and do a: Miller, Pryz, Rudy, and Bayless trade. Although I’d be fine with the former. But if I were GM, I wouldn’t do Oden or Batum, cause defense does win championships.
According to Fletcher Mackel's blog
The deal would be:
Chris Paul & Emeka Okafor to Portland (if CP3 is traded a team HAS to take Okafor and his horrible contract with him!!!!!)
Greg Oden, Rudy Fernandez, Nicolas Batum, Andre Miller, The rights to Joel Freeland and a 2011 or 2012 1st round draft pick to New Orleans
This is too much, in my opinion; even for CP3. Willing to give up Oden OR Batum, but not both.
That's steep but still worth thinking about it
Okafor is remarkably healthy and can play both 4 and 5. I wouldn’t mind taking him on at all for four years to provide depth.
by Norsktroll on Jul 22, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Joel and Greg?
Leaving Camby, Okafur and Pendergraph as the remaining big men?
Not liking
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
and little old, softy Aldridge...
but he’s not worth anything…
by Junk Drawer Bandit on Jul 23, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
His blog post is pretty clearly speculation
At least the hypothetical trade proposal.
"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave
clearly his own personal trade idea
not anything from sources. he even said the pick had to be included for salary matching purposes, when everyone knows picks count as $0 for salary mathing purposes.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
im okay with this
okafor can do fill in for greg (hes not as good but when you get cp3 who cares?)
lamarcus is a big winner
you still have your all star
oh yah you get some guy named Chris.
The roster becomes nice and balanced and you still have a solid frontcourt with the best backcourt in the league
Do Right And Kill Everything.
Not a good proposal.
In Bayless I trust.
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No freakin' way
way too much. Paul’s great (or he was before he got hurt), but that’s
a huge gamble.
by hellsfrozenover on Jul 22, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Keep Oden
The whole attraction for me with getting CP3 is having him throw lobs to Oden all day… I mean the guy made Tyson Chandler look good, imagine what he’d do for Oden. Not to mention that the whole reason we’re considered the biggest threat to the Lakers by many is that we have the length and size to match up with them. I’d give up batum, rudy, bayless, miller, pryz, and picks, but leave the big guy out of it.
by ozqb3 on Jul 22, 2010 12:34 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
What if it came down to Oden?
What if it got to a point where it was very simply this: if we want CP3 then we have to trade Oden + Batum. If we don’t trade Oden + Batum, then no trade. What would you do then? Tough decision, I know.
In other words, when we hear the PDX has the best pieces, those are 2 pieces they’re talking about, primarily.
I would not be willing to give up on G.O.
I’ve got way too many hopes and dreams tied up in him to have it all thrown away now. I want Greg to succeed SO badly I can taste it, and my brain is hardwired to believe that as Greg goes, so go the Blazers.
CP3 is a proven star, but in the end, fandom to me doesn’t require a championship. I love the Blazer’s story, and I’m happy to follow it to its conclusion WITH Greg Oden. If you ask me if I’d trade Oden for Durant I’d laugh at you.
This
Added to the fact that I’m a firm believer in the “defense wins championships” school of thought. If we give up Batum/Oden, we go from being potentially one of the most intimidating defensive teams in the league (pending an improvement in our defensive strategy) to being a fairly bad team defensively.
Camby, Matthews and Przy aren't chopped liver
but I agree, long and strong wins in May/June
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Matthews may be a good wing defender, but . . .
he’s not a SF. He’s 6’5", 220 with a 6’8" wingspan. He’s not going
to be able to guard Melo, LBJ, Josh Smith, Durant’s in the NBA. Maybe some
smaller SF & SG’s, but just like BRoy, he’s a 2 guard.
It's GO time !
I'd trade Oden
Not trying to be a downer, but i’d take the proven contributions of CP over the potential and maybe’s of GO
Oden has made proven contributions
He just hasn’t stayed on the court…
He's made a lot of proven fouls.
He was only coming along just this year before he blew out his knee. Who knows how strong he’ll be and if he’ll rely on fouling and such when he gets back on the court? We have no idea. And he’s in the last year of his contract, entering a CBA year, etc. etc. etc…. I do agree that it would be a bad idea to trade both Oden and Batum because we need youth at one of those positions. Camby’s just a backup, a good insurance policy and someone we can bring in off the bench. Not someone we want to rely on for several minutes a game, and same goes for Okafor.
bad team PnR scheme that constantly switched Greg onto PGs has a lot to do with that
Hopefully, Ociepka will teach a different way of dealing with the PnR that doesn’t leave Oden exposed so often
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Off Limits...
For what it’s worth: I would not trade Brandon, Oden or LMA ( I know the LMA stance won’t be popular)… I would trade one of these three Nic, Bayless or Camby but not more then one of them…well maybe Bayless and Camby but not Nic and one of those two…
If Andre, Pryz and anybody, or anything else we can offer gets it done I would absolutely love it. If we give up too much for a two year rental… not so much!
no worries on LMA
they wouldn’t want him back anyway.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
the Hornets could deal West and keep LMA
talent-wise it works, but the long-term contract is the hangup
of course, if Cho could flip LMA to a 3rd team and keep Batum-Oden…and then that 3rd team could provide NO with a young talent equivalent to Batum…?
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Dealing West and Keeping LMA makes no sense
West is cheaper and on a shorter contract. And perhaps a little better, though he seems to benefit from playing with CP3.
Alright
IMO that is too much to give up. I think the Blazers need to keep one of Oden/Batum. Giving up both is a lot. Im fine with giving up the rest, but keep one of those two
I hate links to Twitter
I cannot view them from here, at work.
Boo
If what I just commented turns out to be wrong, please delete from all memory.
Cut and paste for you...
“Portland (NOT NYC, Dallas or Orlando) has the pieces the Hornets want! This is according to very solid League source. "
I can't view the trade machine from mine
Which means I can’t follow half the links from BE
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
Yeah, I can't either.
If what I just commented turns out to be wrong, please delete from all memory.
Cho me whatcha got, Rich!
I think there might be a 3-way trade if we don’t want to lose Roy, Aldridge, Oden, and Batum and not get Okafur’s contract. Maybe Rudy might be going to that third team. What third team may be interested? Anyone have possible scenarios?
...and that's the bottom line 'cause nicolas batum said so!
to get the ball rolling somewhat...
-what pieces outside of portland do the hornets want that can be given in place of batum?
-what team wants okafur (and rudy?)?
...and that's the bottom line 'cause nicolas batum said so!
I'll bite
I think the biggest thing most other teams can offer is capspace. I posted this earlier, but capspace > expiring contracts since you save $ NOW, not next year.
I think Blazers will want Okafor because they will almost certainly lose 2 of: Oden, Prz & Camby in the deal.
I think many teams will want Rudy (Bulls? Knicks? even the Hornets?). That’s the easiest part of the deal.
you're on the right track
but no one here is going to have that inside info, I do think that a 3rd team with capspace (probably in the East) will have to be brought into the deal to make the salaries work
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I doubt NO is going to cut off the deal if we say Oden, Roy, and Aldridge are untouchable. The rest of
our roster is still better than they can get from any other team.
You can basically get a while NBA squad from Portland. Miller, Rudy, Batum, Pryzbilla, Bayless.
I’d prefer the keep Batum though.
further than Brandon Roy has taken us
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
by douglast on Jul 22, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ooooooooooooo
(truth)
If what I just commented turns out to be wrong, please delete from all memory.
nope
2nd round
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
DO NOT GIVE UP ODEN!!!
I would pain me greatly to lose Batum, but now with My Dear Sweet Wesley it makes it a little easier (although we do lose Batman’s length – but gain Wesley’s toughness) But we cannot lose GO, not even for CPDX3 (New Nickname – you read it here first!) We still have the rookies we could send too and nobody has mentioned it but if the Blazers are so high on Eliott Williams (and Monty would be aware of this too) why not include him as a sweetener?
nobody has mentioned it but if the Blazers are so high on Eliott Williams (and Monty would be aware of this too) why not include him as a sweetener
This has been mentioned. Perhaps the Blazers drafted Babbitt and/or Williams because the Hornets valued them highly?
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
On this same note...
Is it possible that Wes Matthews, apparantly duplicating many of Batum’s talents, was signed because we had this deal wih NO in mind, and Monty said Batum was a must have, deal breaker?
(Or, perhaps Monty likes Wes Matthews?)
Who TF knows… but the Blazers certainly can put a fine package together… I still think we can do it without sending EITHER Batum or Oden out…
Pryz, Dre, Rudy… Those 3 are the obvious guys to include, to me, for salary matching reasons, and because NO will love the $14M next year when PRyz and Dre come off the books. I really think they can sell their fanbase on Rudy being exciting to watch, too…
Then, if they want to get rid of Okur too, we could add Camby… Hope Monty likes Marcus for some leadership skills…
I’d deal a rookie that Monty liked, too, if he wanted.. Throw in some Euros, draft picks, and millions of cans of SPAM, whatever it takes to get it done…
This lineup would be compitive with anytbody, including LA and Miami:
5: Oden, Okafur
4: LMA, Pendy, Babbit
3: Batum, Dante, (Matthews/Babbit)
2: Roy, Matthews, EW
1: CP, Bayless, AJ, Mills
The trade also opens up 2 more spots on our roster to get another big and maybe a 3-pt bomber type. But that roster has defense, speed, youth, athleticism…. even Nate couldn’t screw this up…
I'm with you all the way...
…if N.O. trades CP3, they’re definitely in rebuilding mode, and probably desperate. And I’d rather the Blazers stay loaded on the frontline (a lesson that comes from long and painful experience-I’m old enough to remember the Moses Malone fiasco). I still believe Greg is the answer long-term: age and/or contractual matters mean Joel and Marcus will contribute less and less even in the very near future. And Greg’s injuries have seemed much more obviously freakish in nature than the painfully chronic injuries that Walton and Bowie suffered. I agree-Batum and a fair number of other players could be in play in this deal, but I’d veto anything that would take from the long-term and deep core of this team.
by Modal Rounder on Jul 22, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Why....
Why is any giving credence to what some sports anchor from NO is saying? Did you happen to see any of the other trade possibilities he has on his site? He has zero basis or insight into anything he is saying.
by MusicCityBlazer on Jul 22, 2010 3:04 PM PDT reply actions
Well, because it's Chris Paul, for what ever reason he triggers our desire to RB
And what else are we going to do? It’s Thursday and we’re all working.
by Chief Play Good Play Hard on Jul 22, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
If I absolutely HAD to...
I would give up Greg over Batum in a heartbeat. I just don’t think Greg will ever be a reliable NBA player. He just doesn’t have the body to hold up to an 82 game + season. If giving up Greg is what gets us CP3 then I’ll be glad we at least got something for him. I’m no Greg-hater either; if by some miracle he remained healthy i think he could be the best center in the league. I just don’t see it happening.
by hollywood robinson on Jul 22, 2010 3:44 PM PDT reply actions
Again, we don't necessarily NEED Greg healthy for 82 games...
sure, it’d be nice… But all we really need him for is May and June!
I’d gladly have him be injured (or, ideally, used very conservatively) all winter, then start to bring up his minutes in the spring, so that by the playoffs, he’s ready to go…
But all we need is for this deep and talented roster to get lucky enough to be healthy for a month or two when the games really count…
Not worth it to me to give up GO. CP has had injuries too.
He may have played his best ball already…
by LicketyBrindleDowntheMiddle on Jul 22, 2010 4:34 PM PDT reply actions
OPP: add this link to your fanshot-I don't want to spam another CP3 thread.
http://www.wdsu.com/offsidesblog/index.html
that’s the link to his Blog he “tweets” (ugh i hate that word) about later on. It has a hypothetical scenario involving portland giving up rudy, batum, oden and more for CP3 and Okafor, and then NOH swapping David West to ORL for gortat and more.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Just to chime in.
I’m not giving up Oden in this deal.
It’s a 2 year rental in our case and you have to approach it that way.
Without Oden and likely Pryz (in the rumored deals) we lose what makes us a very tough matchup vs LA. Our size and length.
Oden could be a 2 year rental as well
what’s the difference?
Oden could be a 2 year rental as well
what’s the difference?
The fascination of PTB with CP is unbelievable. He is not the promised land. Look how our defense shut him down. He is stoppable and we can do it. So, do not give up Batum or Oden. Move Miller or Bayless along with a “big” and use the money issue to get him if you choose to do so. Bayless or Miller need to go, esp with the development of our rookie selections of this year. May have to move Rudy too as part of the deal though teams will not see him as such a value considering we signed Matthews, not showing much confidence or support. With Martell gone, Batum stays. What you want rudy and wes to be the Batum, not the case, i am sorry. With KP gone, maybe we will realize Bayless is NOT the answer at the one or the two. Move him! Of course, now that Nate has new assistants, who knows what our offensive philosophy will be. Anything better than he could come up with but the philosophy needs to meld with the personnel and Nate is terrible at that. In fact, maybe someone should realize our problem is NOT talent (we are the envy of the league) but Coaching!
his teamates suck, mo-pete??
and he was hurt, but i dont recommend giving oden for him
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 22, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
NO fans i asked about his seem to think of this guy as their version of jason quick
i.e. they guy that puts all kinds of crazy trade ieas
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
I just don't see it happening
CP coming to PDX, especially with Monty in the mix. He’s going to be against deals with the Blazers for several reasons, the least of which is he doesn’t want to get the raw end of a deal and appear to be in collusion. Reminds me of Jerry West sending Gasol to the Lakers (I know he was a GM unlike Monty). But don’t you think Monty will just be saying out loud “don’t deal my best player to the Blazers, I don’t want the scrutiny”…?
"Look at us. We're just like everyone else. We've bought into the same, ridiculous delusion." - Revolutionary Road
Oden AND Batum?
No deal, ever. I wouldn’t give up those two in a package for anyone except LeBron, and even then, I’d think twice about it. Batum and Oden are both good, young, developing, and cheap. If we trade Oden, I guarantee we will never win a championship. He’s the key to the whole thing working.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
I Like Portland's "Pieces" Too!
I don’t blame them for wanting Portland’s players, because we have some incredible talent. It;s kind of like saying that you like some of the Laker’s pieces.
We are a legitimate threat to win the Western Conference Playoffs if we are healthy as it sits right now. Adding CP at the expense of decimating our probable starting front line of Oden Batum and Aldridge makes any gain from CP into a massive net loss on defense.
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