In the CP3 for Roy thread, one post stuck out for me and noone answered it. That was, that the only top PG to win since Magic was Isaiah Thomas (sp); and that was in 1989 or 90. Stockton, Nash, Kidd, Hardaway, CP3, Williams, etc have failed to win. The best PG to win in those 20 years was probably Parker or Billups and both are more of a combo guard/scorer than a PG anyway.
It's seems clear to me that the most important ingredient to winning are strong wing scorers who can create off the dribble. A few teams have had some post presence like a Shaq, Duncan, or Hakeem but most won without it (Pistons, Bulls - I know, MJ doesn't count you'll say!?!?).
So my question is, why would Portland buck that trend with CP3 in place of Roy? CP3 wants no part of a Roy for CP3 deal and he would want Roy and LMA here which means to me, he believes he would need a star wing and an above average big on offense to win. (I did notice that CP3 didn't say anything about Oden when he said he wouldn't want to be in Portland without Roy and LMA.)
So, what do those fans here that think the Blazers would win bigger without Roy and with CP3 know that CP3 doesn't know? And why do those fans believe the Blazers in that scenario would buck the trend of winning without a big time wing player?
I agree that most objective NBA observers would choose CP3 over Roy. But I'm of the camp that they are just wrong. There is something inside Roy, some intangible thing of substance that CP3 just doesn't have to me. I can't explain it. The numbers obviously don't back that observation up. But there is something in him that screams "winner" to me and he somehow has an effect on the teams he is on that gives them this confidence to play over their heads. It was that way at UW for him and it has been that way for him as a Blazer. CP3 is a stat guy for sure. But I think if you give me Roy on one side and CP3 on the other and then add 4 players for each of them of equal talent somehow that Roy's team would win 90% of the time even though CP3 would outstat him.
So, with all that said, what's the reason why CP3 would buck the trend and make the Blazers a championship team with an average wing when no other great PGs have done it in 20 years and no team has won with an "average" wing in that timeframe (And no, Clyde in Houston was still an above average player to me)?