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4 years, 38 million. OK, I get why he opted out of 1 year 15 million now. No way he was going to get a 3 year, 23 million deal next summer (or whenever the lockout ended).

What I don't get is why the heck the Spurs do this? Sure, they will save some tax money this year, but do they really want him tying up 10 million in cap space for 3 more season after this? Maybe non-guarantees or team options will explain it - can't wait to see those.

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final season is player option for more than 11 million. Still think it’s a bad move, but it does keep him around for the rest of the Duncan era, and the savings this year pay for Bonner and Splitter. Maybe they figure they should just go all in.

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by douglast on Jul 21, 2010 4:48 PM PDT reply actions  

assuming 10.5% raises

contract is 8.375 this year, 9.254 in 11-12, 10.133 in 12-13, and his player option in 13-14 is 11.013

"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
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by douglast on Jul 21, 2010 4:51 PM PDT reply actions  

roughly, used some rounding

"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
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by douglast on Jul 21, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

please be more exact

only 3 decimal places? slacker

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by Utah Sucks on Jul 21, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question

Would you rather pay Richard Jefferson 38.8 million for 4 years (at which time he will be 34) or Wesley Matthews 32.7 million for 5 years (at which time he will be 29)?

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by douglast on Jul 21, 2010 4:53 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Matthews.

Jefferson is not very good. He survives on name recognition alone.

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by T Darkstar on Jul 21, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

can’t believe the general consensus that Matthews is overpaid. He is well worth the money, especially compared to RJ’s deal. WOW

picture me rollin'

by Utah Sucks on Jul 21, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously Matthews

Because he plays for the blazers.

by moflow on Jul 21, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ah, but what about Barnes at like 9 million for 3 years?

"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave

by DC Blazer on Jul 22, 2010 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

But didn't Barnes want

$5 million a year from Toronto? Not sure you can get Barnes for $3 million a year….

by Storyteller on Jul 22, 2010 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, I think he was hoping for $9m over 2 years, but...

It sounds like that kind of money isn’t available to him now. The current rumor is that he’s leaning toward signing with a contender over taking the fattest contract available.

"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave

by DC Blazer on Jul 22, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get it

he was better at the end of last year, but this is a terrible deal.

I also don’t get why Buford is considered a genius

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by Honka Playboy on Jul 21, 2010 9:22 PM PDT reply actions  

4 rings will do that for ya

especially for a small market that no “name” FA would ever want to got to, unless you’re winning ’ships

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by two4larue on Jul 21, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

His genius is Duncan

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Jul 21, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

lets see, outside of Duncan he drafted Parker with the 28th pick, Ginobili at 57, Hill at 26 (even though they wanted Batum), Blair at 37, and Splitter at 28. That is a pretty good resume alone for why he is considered a genius. And on top of all that, he had the insight to pick up the unheralded Bruce Bowen back in 2001.

by slipstream21 on Jul 22, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ginobili a great find, as was Parker

Blair is still to be seen (to be seen if he outlasts Duncan), Hill is okay, and Splitter has looked very very good… in Spain. He may be an NBA player, but we’ll see

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by Honka Playboy on Jul 22, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who were the Spurs trying to out-bid with this deal?

A week ago, Jefferson was supposedly off everyone’s radar. Now the Spurs sign him to this huge deal? I get that they want to see if he can fit into their system better this year (accounting for last year being a transition season), but…..

Were they concerned that the Knicks were going to offer him $8 million? I don’t get this….

by Storyteller on Jul 21, 2010 11:06 PM PDT reply actions  

the only thing that makes sense

is that they had a handshake deal with him before he opted out “hey, opt out of that 15 million, and we’ll take care of you on a multi-year deal”. The savings this year allowed them to pay Splitter and Bonner, and they can kick the can down the road a year on the rest of the new deal, since Parker’s salary comes off the books after this season.

That, and maybe they think he will improve in year 2 in their system.

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by douglast on Jul 22, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I think Hollinger basically insinuated this in one of his recent articles:

Now, after the shadiest summer in league history concluded with those three [James, Wade, and Bosh] all on the same roster (not to mention the apparent shenanigans with James Jones and Richard Jefferson opting out from and then returning to the Heat and Spurs, respectively)

Link

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by DC Blazer on Jul 22, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

new rule

illegal to opt out of a deal then sign with the same team for less money

"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare

by douglast on Jul 22, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

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