Coming back to Earth.
I laughed to myself this morning when I realized what I was reading most frequently in the comments to different stories & fanposts:
1. Kevin Pritchard was the best thing that ever happened to the Blazers.
2. It's time to trade Oden, Aldridge, Rudy, Bayless, and/or Miller
So I looked for specifics and found that while KP was the GM he drafted Oden, bought the draft rights to Rudy and Bayless, signed Miller as a free agent, and negotiated the big dollar contract extension for Aldridge. I concluded that the two opinions cited above cannot coexist in the same person - and if they do, I'd love to know how.
Kevin Pritchard is extremely charismatic and most of us not only drank the Kevinade we became addicted to it. (I certainly am guilty.) We loved his enthusiasm for his players and we saw the future through his eyes. A dynasty in the making! Even Blazer marketing bought into the excitement of The Big Three. KP possibly was the greatest single influence on the return of Blazermania; certainly the trio of KP, Roy, and Oden caught the imagination. Were we duped? Not intentionally, of course, but were those dreams created by KP's zeal for what he imagined he was creating? I am sure he believed in his dreams, but I have a feeling that Nate never saw the pie in the sky that KP did - and he may not have been the only one.
As best I can figure out, this is Pritchard's record as GM (not knowing how much influence he had in his earlier years with the Blazers) : Bought the draft rights to Petteri Koponen and Rudy (and got James Jones in the exemption - for which he thanked Tom Penn). Traded for Channing Fry, Von Wafer, Ike Diogu, Michael Ruffin, Marcus Camby and the draft rights to Bayless, Batum, and Pendergraph. Drafted Greg Oden and Dante Cunningham. (Missing this year's draft transactions.) Signed as free agents : Steve Blake, Juwan Howard, and Andre Miller. Don't know how many free agents we gave offers to and lost - I can only recall last summer's Turkoglu and Millsap. Bought out Steve Francis. We got nothing for RLEC - were there other expiring contracts that we lost? I'd love to know how many trade discussions there were that went down to the wire - and which team was the one that eventually backed out.
I've come back to Earth from my Kevinade high. I don't feel disillusioned, but I know I was swept along in all the excitement. I'm almost to the point of thinking that Kevin Pritchard was a better Marketing agent than a GM. (Which is not saying he is a bad GM, but is a genius at marketing to the fans.) Rich Cho doesn't appear to have any addictive substances to hook the fans - I hope his more grounded approach will yield successes that keep the excitement going. Welcome, GM Cho - may your work keep Blazermania alive for a long long time.
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Coca-Chola
If what I just commented turns out to be wrong, please delete from all memory.
by NBAstard on Jul 21, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I say call it Choca Cola
"The great charm of cats is their rampant egotism, their devil-may-care attitude toward responsibility, their disinclination to earn an honest dollar." - Robertson Davies
Haha you drink chode?
Take a look at what you typed and re-read five times…yes you spelled choade, did you mean cho-ade or cho-aid? LMFAO
I've felt this way all along
Never understood the deification of KP, nor the assumption around here that all successes were exclusively his doing and whilst conveniently overlooking questionable moves. Remember when the term “Pritch-Slap” was tossed around here all the time? Seems so quaint now.
Even one of the writers here fawned over him constantly. I mean, read this article, it’s so overblown you’d almost think it was parody…
http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/6/25/1536126/apocalypse-now-the-kevin-pritchard
he definitely gave Chuck Norris a run for his money
by Escrote on Jul 21, 2010 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I love anything that says
Chuck norris. Everytime you write out his name I will most likely rec your post. We should trade our entire squad for Chuck norris. Or Brett Favre. Brett Favre and Chuck Norris. Unstoppable.
As far as the KP firing is concerned, a lot of fans seem to be moving through some sort of Kubler-Ross process
Not sure I buy the whole Kubler-Ross theory in general, but with the hiring of Cho, it seems like we’re moving into the acceptance phase.
Personally, I’ve dealt with too many charismatic people to put them on a pedestal in the first place. Sure, I liked KP, but Kevinade always tasted funny to me. And as much as I like the Cho hire, I probably won’t overdose on Richade/Choade/Coca-Chola either.
A couple things:
“We got nothing for RLEC – were there other expiring contracts that we lost?”
We got the same thing other teams would have received if they traded for it: cap space.
As far as Kevin Pritchard goes, I too was a fan. But, I also think it’s interesting that for all the rock star status we heaped on him, there were several decent GM openings for which he wasn’t even interviewed, let alone hired. I think that says something about perception in Portland vs. rest of the league. Maybe he’s holding out for something in particular, but the fact that teams like Phoenix passed on him entirely tells me something.
Perhaps it was the crap sandwich we had to eat with Patterson/Nash that made Pritchard seem so awesome. Like how McDonalds would seem awesome after a month of Top Ramen, but it’s still McDonalds.
by superfly05 on Jul 21, 2010 3:05 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It's a song by Buffalo Springfield.
#52
by CatMan2 on Jul 21, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
top ramen>mcdonalds
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 21, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
there were several decent GM openings for which he wasn’t even interviewed, let alone hired. I think that says something about perception in Portland vs. rest of the league.
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When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Didn't KP also draft Roy and Aldridge
To me, that great start was what put KP into the upper echelon. He started that draft day with the #4 pick, Theo Ratliff, Sebastian Telfair and Viktor Khryapa and turned that into the two best players in the draft (except Rondo, who many GMs missed out on). He made several moves and beat out a handful of other GMs to make that happen. It was like he was Neo dodging bullets that day and everyone else was in slo mo.
He’s come back to earth since then, but still made some nice moves in creating value. Batum late in the draft and getting Bayless for Jarrett Jack and #12 were pretty slick.
by sanjait on Jul 21, 2010 3:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I think it was actually Nash
Pritchard was assistant then….I think
If what I just commented turns out to be wrong, please delete from all memory.
Pritchard was at least head of scouting
And isn’t it always a team decision. I love how Patterson is making a career of playing both sides of his mouth.
In KP I trusted!
actually he said he "took the initiative in creating the internet"
still a very wild exaggeration at the minimum, but slightly different.
And believe me, I’m no Al Gore fan.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
This is a family blog... C'MON!
In Bayless I trust.
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Internet schminternet...
Al Gore is the only one doing anything to save us from the menace of ManBearPig…
I’m super serial.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Excelsior!
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depends on whether or not
you can determine that he was in charge of the draft back then. It certainly had his fingerprints on it but Nash said that Pritchard wanted AMMO and it was him that got Roy
OJ Mayo is the Blazers' PG of the Future
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jul 21, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Patterson did give that impression, but I never heard him come out and say it
Besides, this is PATTERSON we’re talking about. My hunch is that KP may not have argued hard against picking Morrison, but that’s not the same thing as favoring the pick. And he may indeed have been among those favoring Brandon Roy. I still suspect KP was a Roy guy, but that, technically, Patterson made the deal because he was the GM. But the fact is, we really don’t know at all.
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.
good luck convincing the local media of that
to them, Steve was smarmy and the ambassador of all things rotten re: Paul and the Vulcans
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
The Theo/Sebas for the #7 deal was worked out ahead of the draft
we don’t know who made that deal, but the most likely answer is that it was a group effort. KP very well may have been the guy who ultimately targeted Roy with that draft pick.
Likewise, we were getting Aldridge no matter what, whether it be at 4 or 2, as Chicago wanted Tyrus Thomas no matter what and Charlotte was taking Morrison. In fact, we were loudly criticized on draft night for needlessly giving away Khryppa. No idea who or why decided it was in our best interests to shed the salary and roster spot of Viktor, but that looked like a good move. Again, it could have been KP who identified LMA as the target, and that was a good move.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
I recall that Khryppa was lone bright spot in our rookies that prior season
And we were building around Z-bo and Miles. Aren’t we glad that abyssmal time is over. Every rookie we’ve played since has been at least as good as Khryppa.
Never even heard of this guy Khryppa!! Of course I am from Chicago and haven't followed
basketball closely for very long so there’s that…what happened to him?
Kevin Pritchard gave the Blazers' fanbase hope for the future.
Blazermania was on its deathbed, and Kevin led the charge to renew the faith of a disgruntled fanbase that desperately wanted to believe in their team again.
The details don’t matter. The results speak for themself. I believe! Go Blazers!
by Sean M on Jul 21, 2010 4:26 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
There ya go. You got it right, mate.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Exactly. Rec.
KP set the tone and brought the Blazer fans back. That in itself makes him a successful GM.
If Luke Babbitt and Jerryd Bayless played a game of table tennis I'm not sure who would win but the ping pong ball would lose no matter what. - Ben 7/16/2010
I hear ya. Guilty of the same, but...
blowing things out of proportion, making baseless claims, having unreasonable expectations, exhibiting excessive joy and wallowing in unecessary pity are the definition and obligation of the sports fan.
If Pritchard enhanced that experience, I guess he did fine.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
Good post
He seems like a good guy, he’s charismatic and fan-friendly. He was good for the team.
To me, you’re drinking the Kool-Aid if you believe famous draft story 1 (Pritch wanted to draft CP3, Patt/Nash insisted on Marty) but not famous draft story 2 (Pritch wanted AMMO, Patt was responsible for LMA and Roy).
To be clear, I have no idea which (if either) is true. The “evidence” for either story is pretty suspect. My only point is that deifying KP (to me) requires you to accept 1 and reject 2, and I haven’t seen any basis on which to do so.
by Hawthorne Wingo on Jul 21, 2010 4:38 PM PDT reply actions
(Pritch wanted to draft CP3, Patt/Nash insisted on Marty)
Paul Allen had a lot to say about that decision, he was impressed with Wbster’s pre-draft workout
And Paul continued to influence draft picks and roster decisions throughout the “Pritchard era” (drafting Mills and putting him on the roster, keeping Rudy even though Fernandez wanted out and the coaches had grown tired of his act) just as he had done in the PatterNash period (max contracts to Ratliff, Miles and Randolph, drafting of Telfair, etc)
Cho’s future success will be measured in large part by how he “manages” Paul. Allen was impressed-enough with Rich to hire him, but it remains to be seen how well RC can talk PA into handing over the roster revolver before he shoots himself and the franchise in the foot, again
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Just from what I've read about the guy, and how he comes across...I think that he will
be the one convincing Paul Allen. He has the math background…stats…can organize and present them in a way Paul will “get” and his law degree was with emphasis on dispute resolution and contract negotiations….my money is on Cho. Hope I’m right.
Agreed
The Blazers could use another GM to go on a 10 year run like Trader Bob—without the bad chemistry experiments, of course. 3-5 year GM turnover have lead to unfinished business and incomplete rosters filled with questionable player contracts
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
You don't make deities on the basis of rational evidence, silly pants!
My only point is that deifying KP (to me) requires you to accept 1 and reject 2, and I haven’t seen any basis on which to do so.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
if you're refering to the letter, I don't believe KP had anything to do with that
I think even Kevin was self aware enough to know that kind of arrogance would piss off so many GM’s that future trades would be limited.
If you’re refering to releasing him with the injury even though it may have not been career ending, I believe Miles would have never played another game if he were still on our roster. I think that the only reason Miles played those 10 or 11 games was to get paid after he lost his NBA salary. Even though Miles’ contract might have interferred with some free agent signing, the true value was not having him on the roster and around BRoy, LMA, Greg, Bayless, Batum…
What is a Bedge fact?
A Bedge fact is that which is repeated often enough by hyperventilating fans on Bedge that it becomes accepted as fact on the site even though it may or may not have any basis in reality.
The idea that trades were more difficult because of that email is a Bedge fact. GMs were always only going to make a trade with Portland if they thought it was in their best interests, and if they thought it was in their best interests, they weren’t going to refuse a trade simply because of some email that Paul Allen sent.
KP was still able to trade Blake and a just-back-from-injury Travis for Camby.
Steve Blake must have been really, really angry that we traded him.
#10 #52
the Clippers still use AOL
so their spam filter caught that email and dumped it
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
KP brought in good people
He changed the culture of the team and for that I am thankful. How long has it been since our last arrested Blazer? Whether the process was initiated before he became the boss is unimportant because it was finished during his watch.
by Jacksonville on Jul 21, 2010 5:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I still want KPs autograph ahead of any Blazer
Let’s remember, for a moment, that this is not an archeological dig but rather a dramatic spectacle. Professional sports is a kind of entertainment. Otherwise, it’s just a statistical game and, while exciting, it’s the same as watching the stock market or playing fantasy sports. I know—fantasy football ruined me as a football fan. That’s why I never play fantasy basketball.
So when you toss around terms like “in KP we trust” and “Kevin-ade” (where is what’s-her-name to tell its insensitive to use that term since it’s a reference to Jim Jones?) is a refutation of your own argument.
Kevin Pritchard was a marvelous GM precisely because he gave such hope to the fans. He, more than anyone else, was responsible for unifying the fans. He DID STUFF on draft nights. He sincerely talked to the press. He looked aggrieved when Oden was hurt and elated when BRoy won rookie-of-the-year.
To me, it crystallized during the Turkoglu signing last summer. Remember the boards around here then? Everyone was mortified at the signing because, well, everyone knew the guy wasn’t that good. It was a baffling offer. But I’d say 80%-90% of the posters did one thing: they gulped, shivered, and said “In KP I trust” or “I believe in KP” or “KP must know what he’s doing.”
I have never, in any professional sport playing for any particular city, seen that kind of devotion and trust in management. I live near Chicago where hating management is part of the job.
You think we over-value Blazers? Part of that is because we believed in KP.
Think people were to eager to name late-round PGs as all-stars? Part of that was belief in KPs statistical method.
And blind, reasonless, or delusional, that’s a very, very good thing. A fanbase unified behind a team is far, far superior to the opposite. KP was a great GM because he made being a GM an asset to the team in the sense of energizing the fanbase.
I personally still regard his moves as pretty solid. I didn’t mind losing RLEC; I don’t blame him for the Darius memo; I don’t blame him for not drafting Durant; I liked watching Sergio play; I liked watching Rudy play; I like watching Bayless play. I genuinely LIKE the team that KP put his stamp on.
That’s a great GM. Those are hard shoes for Cho to fill.
Buck Williams for the hall of fame
by Phizbin on Jul 21, 2010 5:25 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
I hear you Jorga, but I think you've swung too far the other way on the pendulum
They say that history is written by the victors. That seems to be happening now; the Blazers’ brass is succeeding in convincing everyone that KP was an incompetent glory hound while they’ve been sage professionals all along. Do you truly believe that?
My guess is that, as usual, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. KP was no genius, but neither was he a fool. I’d take all this revisionist history with a healthy grain of salt.
I should point out that I never deified KP. I remember being jumped on for a BE Fanpost in which I suggested that KP’s Blazer roster was lacking in toughness. (I wondered whether, as a former point guard, KP lacked a feel & appreciation for that aspect of the game.)
Speaking of toughness, later I got heat for saying that passing over DeJuan Blair not once but twice in the 2nd round was a clear mistake on KP’s part. For once, I felt, he’d been unprepared and inflexible; not expecting Blair to be available in the 2nd round, he wasn’t prepared to pull the trigger when he dropped that far. (Pendy instead of Blair? Give me a break!)
But here’s the bottom line: I never concluded that KP was a crappy GM, and I’m not concluding that now, despite all the trash being heaped on him these days. No GM is infallible. No GM has a perfect draft/trade record. KP did better than most in my opinion, and if he ended up believing his own press clippings, that doesn’t mean he should take all the blame for the obvious dysfunction in the Blazers’ front office.
Re/ KP’s alleged publicity-seeking and credit-grabbing; “nature abhors a vacuum.” With Allen & Miller hiding in the front office, someone had to talk to the media. Maybe KP ended up loving the spotlight too much. But had Allen & Miller been doing their jobs (and not interferring with KP doing his), KP might have been a better GM. He might have made better decisions (who knows how many of the questionable transactions you list were made to appease Allen et al), and he may have been much less publicly visible.
Instead of “coming back down to earth,” Jorga, maybe you should just move down from the stratosphere to the tree tops. It’s nicer up there than planted in the dirt…to stretch a metaphor. I believe KP WAS a good GM for the most part, and I think the team he helped assemble IS poised for great things. If the new GM can improve the performance of the training / conditioning staff so as to keep these young players reasonably healthy, I expect we’ll be in for quite a ride the next few seasons.
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.
by hurryup09 on Jul 21, 2010 7:29 PM PDT reply actions 10 recs
Thank you for this.
This kind of levelheadedness makes a lot more sense than wild swings to extremes.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
You do me a disservice
when you suggest I’ve swung too far the other direction. I am still a fan; I didn’t even consider selling my seats when KP was fired. I am still optimistic about the future, though my optimism is somewhat dimmed by being reminded what Blazer top management has done. I fear that Allen (becoming aware of his mortality?) may get more involved in transactions, ordering trades for certain players, insisting on keeping others (remember he did veto a trade for Darius Miles). And with the hiring of yet another Seattle connection, that fear, using hidden deep within me, surfaced again that he may choose to spend his billions by building a state of the art arena in Seattle. You know, to give back to the people of Seattle…
My point (at least when I started writing) was to contrast the two themes that I was reading here – that 1. KP was the best, ever (and maybe he was, I didn’t intend to come across as suddenly disliking the guy or what he did for the Blazers) – and 2, Let’s get rid of this baggage that KP saddled us with. It just struck me funny that what stood out that morning were two extremes. Not the normal arguments that Player X is our future/ Player X needs to go – just parallel trends going in opposite directions.
But of course, you remember how I get carried away and what I start to say gets buried in lots of other words.
That said, I’m glad your comment went green as I think it made a lot of sense. :-)
by jorga on Jul 22, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think both of you, heck most Bedgers, are overlooking the key to the KP firing
Player evaluation, drafting and acquiring players and all that stuff is a crapshoot of sorts. KP put together a fine, competitive roster, whether or not you give him or Patterson credit for Roy and LMA. I do not think these sorts of things cost Pritchard his job at all.
I do believe that the need to have Larry Miller do KP’s job in contract negotiations was the death knell. Not only did Allen not think KP was representing his interests well but KP made public statements in favor of the players position. As General Manager KP was supposed to be the representative of the organization. Allen’s representative. Roy and Aldridge had agents to look out for their interests, the GM is supposed to look out for the owners interests.
KPs failure in this area and Larry Miller’s insertion into the negotiations, should have raised red flags for blazernation that KPs days were numbered. We were blinded to this fact by our emotional attachment to this roster and to KP, but that does not change the fact that KP failed to do his job here. I can tell you, if I were Allen, I would not want Pritchard in charge of making the Oden decision on whether to extend an offer and what negotiating position to take in that regard given his track record with Roy and Aldridge.
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
We don't have any way of knowing that KP publicly supporting players (i.e. Roy & LMA) during their negotiations is what did him in
Maybe it was one factor. But maybe not. I’m not even certain that KP’s statements re/ those two weren’t at the behest of upper management. Someone has to play “good cop.”
For all we know, while KP was publicly saying Roy & LMA should be getting taken care of, privately he was agreeing with Allen & Miller that the team needed to negotiate tough or else the money wouldn’t be there to sign GO, Batum, et al when their contracts came due. Remember, KP ALWAYS favored long-term strategic thinking—even to a fault. He certainly would have had his eye on the need to conserve money to sign the other players he’d acquired.
I do agree with you that, almost certainly, KP’s personnel moves weren’t the primary reason for his firing. (The whole LaGarie/Penn/Minnesota affair is a more likely candidate.) I was just challenging the revisionist history that says KP was responsible for every questionable player transaction over the past few years and that he wrongly claimed credit for every successful one. I don’t buy that garbage for a second.
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.
I was just challenging the revisionist history that says KP was responsible for every questionable player transaction over the past few years and that he wrongly claimed credit for every successful one
Just like how I challenge that KP was the only Blazer employee who was directly responsible for the 2005-2009 roster turnover and the rebranding of the franchise. Did Kevin play a huge part in this? No question. But the media set him on a pedestal and the fans lapped it up. It wasn’t a healthy GM-to-fanbase relationship, and at some point the .com bubble had to burst—and when it did, the media demonized Allen, Miller and the Vulcans.
As usual, the truth is somewhere in the middle, and these same decision-makers have just hired Rich Cho and signed Wesley Matthews (both of whom have impressed the media…)
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
You are totally speculating here
What did KP say publicly? That Roy is a max player. Was that bad, or was he supposed to say that?
Let’s wander back in time, and let me spin you a scenario. KP opens the negotiations with Brandon’s agent by saying, “Now, let’s be clear on one thing. Brandon is a max player. You believe that, and so do we. And we want Brandon here. So it is just the details, incentives, etc.” And then they have trouble agreeing on the details, so Brandon’s agent starts playing the media to put public pressure on the team.
Now, what do the Blazers do? Well, one of the best things they can do is let the fanbase know that A) we think Brandon is a max player, just like you do B) we want Brandon to be here a long time C) it is just working out the details.
There’s a good chance that KP wasn’t “taking the player’s side” but rather giving out the public message that they had already given privately to calm public opinion. And there’s a good chance that public strategy was already agreed among the Blazer braintrust.
In other words, I’m not at all persuaded that his public statements were the issue. Nor am I persuaded that Miller’s insertion in the negotiations had anything to do with KP leaving. You’ve constructed a plausible scenario, but it isn’t entirely convincing. I would say it is one possible explanation, at the most.
Steve Blake must have been really, really angry that we traded him.
#10 #52
FWIW
I agreed a lot more with your post and think that hurryup is setting up some unnecessary strawmen to knock down here. While it’s indisputable that KP was held up as the franchise savior and the sole reason for our turnaround (see some of the ridiculous rhetoric in Ben’s “Apocalypse Now” story), I’ve seen almost no swing towards the opposite of that: that KP was just some bumbling GM who stumbled into all of his good deals. HU seems to imply that that’s what you’re saying (“the Blazers’ brass is succeeding in convincing everyone that KP was an incompetent glory hound”).
If anything, most people seem to be coming to a similar consensus: that KP was a pretty good GM who was gifted with some enormous structural advantages that allowed him to make some great moves; that he was probably a top 10 GM in the league, but not exactly some mythical GM sent from on high to answer Blazer fans prayers. Arguing against this point hardly means you’re calling him an incompetent.
KP did a great job assembling the roster, but with the amount of money that we shelled out for the Roy, Sergio, Rudy, PetKo, Nic, AJ, etc. draft picks along with starting his GM career with the #4 pick and lucking into the Oden pick, I’d expect us to be pretty set roster-wise.
I was and still am of the opinion that we should have kept KP, but there are probably half a dozen other guys around the league who could have done a similar job given the circumstances. Just because he wasn’t lapping the field like most of BE assumed doesn’t mean he wasn’t a good GM.
#52
KP was the best, ever (and maybe he was, I didn’t intend to come across as suddenly disliking the guy or what he did for the Blazers)
Believe me, you don’t have to intend to say that KP wasn’t the best GM ever for it not to be taken that way. From March-June any take that didn’t prop KP and demonize Paul was met with extreme prejudice. It’s not hard to understand why, since the local media and most of the fans had set up KP as an essential part of the franchise’s future and to suggest otherwise was putting the commentator at risk of permanently revoking their Blazermaniac card
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Sorry if I misrepresented your comment, Jorga
Everyone knows—or should know—that you’re one of the best posters & Blazer fans around here.
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.
RICH CHO IS GOD!!!!!!!
SM
In Bayless I trust.
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by staylost on Jul 21, 2010 7:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That's funny.
I hope he does well, but you and Escrote* up top drink his chode? LOL
I still like KP and thought the process bush league
but it is nice to see you write again
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
From one old [school?] teacher to another,nice post
by southern oregon on Jul 21, 2010 9:31 PM PDT reply actions
That's kind of you
but I am one of the oldest here. I just happen to not look my age (but that is changing).
I’m almost to the point of thinking that Kevin Pritchard was a better Marketing agent than a GM. (Which is not saying he is a bad GM, but is a genius at marketing to the fans.)
And I think that KP will make an NBA team a fine lead scout. I think he was over his skis as a GM, but the Portland media loved him because he was anti-Steve Patterson and everyone was ready for the “change”
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
This ^
Quick in particular really seemed to get personally attached. Calling KP’s firing a “Dark, dark day in the history of [the] franchise.” Talk about melodrama and lack of objectivity.
didn't he get batum?
eventually got rid of jarett jack, sergio, got the blazers a big when they needed one with expiring contracts. His lil’ twang is really charming too. Maybe he was a little hyped but trying to emulate daryl morey is not a bad idea for the GM of a small market team that can’t attract huge FAs and must build good teams through the draft. Even if he was an assistant when we drafted and then traded for Aldridge and Roy, he had his hand in the new culture pie, er um, cake, pie cake, pake, or pike…
You know...getting Batum in and of itself has to make me love KP. Now Rich Cho just needs to
bond with Nico; he will then no longer be objective when it comes to Batum and will be unable to trade him.
Kevin who? It’s all about Cho.
Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. - 'The Sports Guy' Bill Simmons
by doublezeroduck on Jul 21, 2010 10:24 PM PDT reply actions
I can not believe...
I wrote and posted a stupid letter to PA about saving KPs job. Objectively that made little sense on many levels.
Emotions…must control emotions.
How do I say goodbye to what we had?
I thought we’d get to see forever
But forever’s gone away
It’s so hard to say goodbye to yesterday.
by tominhawaii on Jul 22, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I believe in yesterday.
In Bayless I trust.
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the days before the Penn announcement
those were halcyon days that we will look back upon with fondness
“Why he had to go? I don’t know, Paul wouldn’t say”
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Nice post, jorga
Rec for multiple reasons. First, jorga wrote a fan post, that’s rec-worthy right there. Second, the commander of my air force used “coming down to earth”, that’s notable. Third, it makes a lot of sense.
KP and his team have constructed a very good roster, and been instrumental in cleaning up the off-court disasters. Good for them, and good luck. He did a lot of good for us, got some things wrong but a lot of things right, had a lot of Paul Allen’s money to spend and mostly used it well. I’m glad he was GM, but as usual, a lot of Bedgers went way over the top. Surprisingly, Ben was one of them.
Steve Blake must have been really, really angry that we traded him.
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