Friday Free Agency News Thread
by Ben Golliver on Jul 2, 2010 11:02 AM PDT
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PrintHere's your open thread for Friday free agency buzz. Blazers news and rumors have been awfully quiet so far, which is to be expected with no GM.
While most of the major signing talk is happening in the Eastern Conference (Milwaukee, New York, Miami, Atlanta) or in the Developmental League (Minnesota Timberwolves), a few moves have gone down that have Western Conference implications next season.
First, Phoenix committed fairly big money to Channing Frye and reasonable money to Hakim Warrick in anticipation of an Amar'e Stoudemire move east. If Stoudemire was determined to leave (and all recent signs pointed to that), Phoenix could have done a lot worse than they did. With that said, they are set to take a fairly large step back next season. Good news for Portland.
Indeed, early buzz has it shaping up to be an ideal world for Portland with Stoudemire, Joe Johnson, Chris Bosh, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Carlos Boozer (possibly) in the East next year. Bosh to the Rockets (or Mavericks?) remains the biggest potential East-to-West defection unless you really believe in the power of David Lee.
The Lakers, meanwhile, may or may not be targeting Mike Miller with their mid-level exception. You can certainly quibble over whether he's a guy that you want to give five years to, but there's no doubt he's a championship piece for them over the next 2 or 3 years. It's possible that the external move that will most directly impact Portland's chances next year is how the Lakers use their mid-level exception.
Speaking of the Lakers, point guard Jordan Farmar tells ESPN LA that the Blazers are in the mix for his services.
Indiana was the early front-runner to sign Farmar, but the 23-year old told ESPNLosAngeles.com via text message "Portland is right there too."
Difficult to see that happening.
Also, the Memphis Grizzlies gave mini-max money to Rudy Gay. They're still at least a piece away from the playoffs.
Hearing other rumors? Drop them in the comments and discuss. We'll continue to update as substantive news or rumors involving the Blazers come to light.
PS ehmiliano posted in the FanShots: former Blazers point guard Sergio Rodriguez completed his NBA life cycle today and will return to Spain, signing a three year deal with Real Madrid.
Update: 11:33AM
Rip City Project keeps the Chad Ford rumor pipeline going: Reportedly, LaMarcus Aldridge was offered for Devin Harris and Derrick Favors. Ford should write a column called "Kevin Pritchard's near-misses... that never really stood a chance" and get it over with in one shot.
Update 2:16PM
Randy Pfund is next on Portland's GM interview list via Jason Quick via Sean Meagher.
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indeed
Let’s just hope there isn’t a bad move/ signing just for the sake of proving they’re active even w/o a GM.
"I was surprised, I was listening to the coach on the bench and behind me, she touches me and says, ‘Rudy, I love you. Nice to meet you. Good game.’ - Rudy
by The Mallorcan Rocket on Jul 2, 2010 11:11 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
what if
farmar is the backup PG to CP3 if that trade were to go down?
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
I agree w this
the only reason to look at Farmar is because Miller and Bayless will be gone, and they don’t want to trust in Mills or Johnson for backup minutes in a deep playoff run. in that context, Farmar makes sense.
by Rodney Gustafson on Jul 2, 2010 1:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Larry Miller
if you sign Farmar, we WILL have a problem.
I'm gonna be the only A-hole that owns a Nic Batum jersey that doesn't live in France. Awesome.
by CoRBBall on Jul 2, 2010 11:09 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Looks like Amare is done in Pheonix....
where do guys think he ends up?
florida
"I was surprised, I was listening to the coach on the bench and behind me, she touches me and says, ‘Rudy, I love you. Nice to meet you. Good game.’ - Rudy
by The Mallorcan Rocket on Jul 2, 2010 11:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This.
"Batum must be french for: being at the right place at the right time" -
-StudMuffin15 @ Rufus On Fire
"Juwan "The Clipper Killer" Howard" - Natedog1977 @ ClipsNation
" I would trade our entire team for Brandon Roy"
- Slick4President @ Indy Cornrows
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jul 2, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Via A. Woj. on twitter
WojYahooNBA
Knicks and Amar’e Stoudemire in serious talks on 5 year, max contract; Deal could come as soon as Friday. http://tinyurl.com/2d8yzp9
"Batum must be french for: being at the right place at the right time" -
-StudMuffin15 @ Rufus On Fire
"Juwan "The Clipper Killer" Howard" - Natedog1977 @ ClipsNation
" I would trade our entire team for Brandon Roy"
- Slick4President @ Indy Cornrows
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jul 2, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
He had a good year
I don’t think that means he will match it.
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He'll go to whoever
pays him the most. Amare is a player whos main goal is money, not titles, I’m sure he’d like to win a title, but having a few extra million bucks would make him as happy.
by r.johnsonmill on Jul 2, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
CTC
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#14
by Mr. Knox on Jul 2, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
“I don’t give a (expletive) about no trade rumors. As long as somebody ‘CTC,’ at the end of the day I’m with them. For all you that don’t know what CTC means, that’s ‘Cut the Check. I just go out there and play. Again, somebody just ’CTC.’”
-Rasheed Wallace
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#14
by Mr. Knox on Jul 2, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's worth a rec and changing my sig!
"I don’t give a ZACH about no trade rumors. As long as somebody ‘CTC’ at the end of the day, I’m with them. For all you that don’t know what CTC means, that’s ‘Cut the Check. I just go out there and play. Again, somebody just ’CTC'." -Sheed
wow, LeBron a Net - that'd seem so weird to me.
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ESPNBoston is reporting that Pierce has verbally agreed to a four-year extension with the Celtics.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
And Coach is hanging around for at least another year
Looks like they’re going to try and make one more push at a title with their big 3.
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As long as they have Rondo
they will still contend. Remember defense wins ships and they still have a very formidable (admittedly aging but formidable) defense.
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
And
I will admit if they have Perkins for game 7 they would have won.
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
true Perk has that injury though too
Where do the Lakers rank in my life? I say Lakers, sex,...and breathing
Very interesting
When I heard the figure of $61 million, I thought it was a bit irregular, so I ran some numbers. Here’s what I came up with.
We all know that Brandon Roy signed a 5 year extension at ‘the max’. Rudy Gay’s 5 year contract will be the same amount. We’ll know the exact amount when they announce the figures this week. But the expectation is that the starting salary in 2010-11 will be around $13.15 million, projecting to just under $80 million for 5 years.
But guess how much that contract would be if it were 4 years long? Yep, you guessed it, $61 million……
I think that’s what Pierce is signing for – what would be considered a ‘max’ contract if he only had 4 years of experience.
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I didn't realize Farmar was only 23
Does he have the potential to be a starting PG some day? What is people’s take on him as a player?
He once was considered Fisher's heir in LA, but his ceiling has come crashing down
He would make a decent experienced backup to Chris Paul, and would probably cause Nate to play him over Bayless if he would back up Miller thereby not leading anywhere.
"Fisher's Heir"
isn’t all that high of a bar to reach. In the triangle offense, it seems like the PG isn’t so responsible for running the offense.
I agree with that.
I dont want him here trying to run this team plus he is a two time FAKER champion…
Farmar is a low turn over low risk PG with a decent 3-pt shot
Now who coaching the Blazers would want that?
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Then he would fit right in with Andre
who looks like Donkey.
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by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jul 2, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ok...sorry...but I had to
Phil Mickelson: "A Great shot is when you pull it off.....a smart shot is when you don't have the guts to try it"’
by 92wastheyear on Jul 2, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice. I knew someone would get on this.
Now we just need a picture of Farmar’s face in green.
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he looks like this guy
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Ok … the Bucks and John Salmons have finally come to terms on a deal. It’s 5 years, $39 million, but the deal has partial guarantees in it, so in reality, Salmons could be earning less if things don’t work out down the road.
From Chad Ford. Wow… great deal for the Bucks IMO. Way better than Joe Johnson or Rudy Gays deal.
KP2 doesn't like it.
John Salmons might actually have the highest $/WARP ratio of any major free agent this summer. Salmons parlayed two good months and the Bucks’ desperate need for scoring (even after the addition of Corey Maggette) into a reported $39 million offer over five years. He’s on the wrong side of 30 and was never substantially better than replacement level, so this has ugly written all over it.
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by BlazersOrBust on Jul 2, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I dunno...
the dude can defend and rebound though.
I have only intermittently watched him since he went to the Bulls and then the Bucks
so I don’t know about defense. But he is a bad, bad rebounder. 10.1% defensive rebound rate is worse than Kirk Hinrich, Brandon Jennings or Rafer Alston. For what little it’s worth I think this is another contract that teams will look back on from this summer and be kicking themselves for signing.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jul 2, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
The Blazers offered Aldridge to the Nets for Derrick Favors and Devin Harris during the draft. Looks like he’s in play.
another Chad Ford bomber… WOWSAH
Very tempting...
It would definitely set the time line back a few years, but I would love to see Oden and Favors patrol the paint together. They would still need more outside shooting to space the floor on offense.
NO WAY New Jersey does this
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
by axel360 on Jul 2, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, no kidding
come on people, New Jersey can’t seriously have been considering this. A top 3 pick PF and a young capable very good starting PG for a 2nd or 3rd option finesse PF? The Blazers make this trade as it’s rumored in a heartbeat, the Nets would be crazy. All that said, LMA will be a great compliment to a healthy Greg and as things stand I’m happy to have him on the squad. I do think we undervalue him a bit as a fanbase though considering some of the professionals think that he would have got a MAX offer in this FA market.
um Rudy Gay and Joe Johnson got max offers in this market
That’s why LMA would…I’d rather have LMA than either of those other two, but none of ’em are worth the max.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
That's the problem, things are getting nuts.
Where are all of those people who said nothing would happen until LeKing decided where he would go?
Lots of things are happening already. It is cool to watch, like those little people Brawlers.
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I feel better about putting LMA into trade proposals
after reading this rumor
keep Nic, if you can
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FWIW, so far I've only hypothetically offered LMA for Parker and CP3
I’m not sure I would’ve been as excited about Harris and Favors, and I’m not n a big hurry to move LMA (neither should the Blazers) But he’s far from untouchable and though his BYC is a problem but it doesn’t make him untradeable
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Harris and Favors would have been a really nice package for LMA
Favors upside is Bosh, so I would assume he can reach LMA’s level in maybe 2 or 3 years. Would have been worth the risk, though it’s not a real “win now” move.
Portland needs more of a combo sg and pg
rather than a pure point guard—that kind of player will be cheaper and won’t cost the core group of players the blazer’s have(Roy,Oden,Batum,LA)
I hope he can,
’cause I like the guy and the team has put too much work into him to just use him as trade bait.
There exists a quality which is nameless.
Bayless also needs to NOT put his head down and PASS out of triple and quadruple teams
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Harris isn't exactly a pure PG. He's more of a scoring guard like Parker.
I think he would fit well next to Roy. He’s not as good as CP3, but he’s a good defender and he can score in bunches, and has led a team to the finals (as a co-star of course). I’m not a proponent of the theory that the PG needs to be a great 3 point threat though.
I was big on Devin a year ago before they signed 'Dre
so probably I should be more geeked about this news. I know KP was really high on Harris, but now that he’s gone it’s hard to say. I do know from watching the games on TV that DH and the Blazers (especially Roy) are all buddy-buddy before and after games
I just can’t see starting over with a teenage PF like Favors. I guess “somebody” would have to take over after Marcus retires
If the trade happens I’d warm up to it, I suppose. But for now I’m tepid because I really liked the idea of Parker and his final’s experience joining the lineup
I will say this, everyone assumes that Camby was signed to “replace” Joel…but WHAT IF the idea was to flip LMA and his contract, instead? KP was big on LMA but now he’s gone, and maybe Paul and Larry are less-enamored of Aldridge, like so many Blazers fans?
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If true, then so far we have made a run at CP3, Tony Parker, and Devin Harris
It sounds like the Miller-Roy shotgun marriage is heading for a divorce sooner, rather than later.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 2, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
at least they're looking for legit PG upgrades
instead of young kids that may or not ever pan out
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From Ford’s Chat: "The Blazers offered Aldridge to the Nets for Derrick Favors and Devin Harris during the draft. Looks like he’s in play.
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sorry escrote, didn't realize you posted this right above.
"Nicolas! You're the strongest boy in the world!"
It was noted by others elsewhere that we might not have selected Favors
We might have gone elsewhere with the third pick.
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Jordan Farmar
is only being pursued as a backup point guard and it would probably be a shorter term deal. Makes me wonder what Portland is up to with trade scenarios.
by three_point_hookshot on Jul 2, 2010 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
it aint over yet McGavin
the way I see it, we’ve only just begun
you better stay away or you'll pay
you listen to what I say.
maybe I should b GM
looks like all these deals that were presented are coming out now…..
back in may I posted these exact trade proposals. the cp3, tp, and this favors n Harris one….
by Hoi on Jul 2, 2010 11:44 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
You do realize all of these trade senarios are preposterous right?
I am still waiting for the name of a traditional power forward to be brought up. When do we get one of those on the roster?
1990 or so
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by 92wastheyear on Jul 2, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, this is true.
Whether you like him or not, Carlos Boozer is the closest thing to a 1990s traditional power forward nowadays.
Except he doesn't play defense
I’d have to go with KG, even though he technically is a ’90’s PF. Josh Smith might be a bit closer, as far as guys who didn’t actually play in the ’90’s go.
Yeah, good call.
Maybe Milsap then? As much as everyone around here hates on LMA, I don’t know if the PF that PDX want even exists anymore.
Boozer
I don’t want him, but he plays the PF position old school
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Me neither
But I have a hard time finding someone else who plays the position that way. Who killed the traditional PF, Dirk?
probably AAU
like Kareem says, no one is teaching the kids post moves anymore, whether big or small the drills are all the same…face the basket and learn how to cross over or run the PnR
I want Clifford Ray working with the Blazer big men, especially Greg
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Ray would be awesome
If that’s not possible, I’d like to have Greg, and maybe LMA as well, do what K*be did and work-out with Olajuwon for a summer. Oden won’t have the same type of game as Hakeem, but he would learn a lot.
Camby is pretty close, actually
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Boozer folded Marcus over like a limp noodle
on the last play of the game in Portland, when the Blazers came back from being down 25, Carlos went through Camby to grab an offensive rebound and score a put-back to seal the win for the Jazz
that’s why players like Joel are still necessary, even though it looks like they’re roster/payroll excess. I like a lot of things that Camby does, but he’s skinny and can’t hold his ground against a real banger. There’s not enough weight in his britches and/or he can’t get good enough lower-body leverage, LMA is the same way
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could've drafted DeJuan Blair 3 times last June
I think the Blazers scouts like their big man to be long and lean
(which is why Oden and Przy are so important)
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This made me laugh, Ben.
or in the Developmental League (Minnesota Timberwolves)
Team KP
by Roybot on Jul 2, 2010 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
me too
buuuuuuuuuurn
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Poor Minnisota
Ever go there in the Summer and you’ll think that their state bird must be the mosquito.
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i love devin harris
he’s one of the best defensive PGs in the league when he doesn’t have to carry an offense.
in KP i trusted
I don't
He’s Stephon Marbury lite, IMO…..
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What are the odds we actually make a big move this summer?
I still think the most likely scenario is we make a few minor changes here and there, and just roll with what we have and hope we don’t get devastated by injuries again. I’m not saying that is what I want (can we have CP3 now please?), but I think that is what will happen.
Standing pat
is not all that bad. A healthy Oden + Miller this year is not a re-tread of last year. Love to see them work together for a full season.
Chris Paul, as good as he is, is injury prone. While Miller never gets injured. There is some value to the stability, as we found out last year. And we get to keep Batum.
I say, go get that back up PG. Resign Oden on the cheap for 3 years 30M. Go with 3 centers. It will work.
We still desperately need one more star
to be a title contender.
Either that or Greg suddenly turns into Bill Russell (you know, fair or not, the guy he was compared most to)
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Coming out of college, Patrick Ewing was the most apt comparison for Greg Oden. Yet, as it is, ...
Oden coming out of Ohio State to Portland has developed much differently than Ewing coming out of Georgetown to New York. The biggest difference have to do with Oden’s superior rebounding, while Ewing refined his offense to develop a mid-range game and turnaround baseline jumper.
However, Oden’s big reliance on his efficient low-post game, decent back-to-the-basket skills, and ability to finish inside with authority are almost preferable to the more versatile, albeit less efficient offensive game of a young Ewing. All in all, Oden is eerily similar to a modern-day Artis Gilmore.
If healthy, Oden will soon be the second best center in the NBA today behind Dwight Howard — who combines Darryl Dawkins’ supreme athleticism and above the rim offensive game, Moses Malone’s tenacious rebounding, and Alonzo Mourning’s shot blocking prowess on defense — which equals a top-notch pivotman that’s a rare bird this day and age.
I agree with you about Oden
and I wish the Blazer’s would have Roy feed Oden in the post like Oscar Robertson used to feed Kareem—because if the opponent tried to double team Oden with Roy’s man Roy could shoot right over them. If Oden is double from someone else then that leaves the shooter’s open.
they
need to run the pick and roll. It would be unstoppable
by BBG on Jul 2, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, the pick and ROLL
ROLL do you hear me Nate ROLL
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AGH
hahaha, but yeah easily my biggest pet peeve on the Blazers
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
You can't stop it
Rock em’ to the beat
of another lame outside jumper from 18’, how exciting.
Miller feeds Oden. Miller runs the PicknRoll. Miller. Oden. FTW.
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Pretty sure it was Russell for his defense/rebounding and offensive deficiencies
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
BIll Russell was a relatively inefficient offensive player, which makes him nothing like ...
Greg Oden on offense. Russell, moreover, was both shorter and thinner than Oden, as well as was really more of a face-up high-post player than a true pivotman who manned the low block. Now, Russell was way more athletic than Oden — especially if you account for the big differences in eras — and, without question, a superior weakside help defender.
Heck, if you’re going to compare Oden to anyone from the ‘60s regarding offense, I’d go with this Hall of Famer — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pOeiWbUZTw — who was one of the most efficient low-post scorers of that era.
Yeah, Artis Gilmore is the best overall comparison for Greg Oden.
With regards to players from the ‘60s, though, I’d go with Walt Bellamy.
don't forget Nate Thurmond
Bill Russell used to shoot a two-handed hook shot
not sure why they thought that was a good idea, back in the day
but he won a lot of rings so who am I to question it?
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Yeah, Nate Thurmond was a poor man's Bill Russell both on offense and defense.
As with Russell, Thurmond had problems floating along the high-post and being an inefficient scorer. Thurmond, however, was still a first-rate weakside help defender, rebounder, and shot blocker, but his offense was nevertheless shoddy compared to the similarly sized Walt Bellamy.
here's another name, from back in the day
Zelmo Beatty
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Yao is certified injury-prone
He has an identified medical condition (gigantism) that causes his multiple injury problems. He has maybe a few more partial season’s in the league, at most.
This.
Yao will never play more than 50 games in a season again. BOOK IT.
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Oden’s big reliance on his efficient low-post game, decent back-to-the-basket skills, and ability to finish inside with authority are almost preferable to the more versatile, albeit less efficient offensive game of a young Ewing. All in all, Oden is eerily similar to a modern-day Artis Gilmore.
For me there’s no “almost” about it. If Greg’s shooting Ewing-like jumpers he’s doing the defense a favor. Oden should attack the basket every time he touches the ball in the paint, and leave all the jumpers to LMA. This puts the opposing team in foul trouble and Greg can score half of his points at the FT line, where he’s a decent shooter.
Artis Gilmore would be just fine with me. Oden can already pass better than the afro-man ever could and you can run your halfcourt offense through Greg like he’s the hub in a wheel. Clifford Ray would be so valuable to Oden at this time as a big man’s coach
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I am still not convinced, knowing what we do now, that Oden wasn't the right pick
I respect Durant. But Oden could still dominate the game for a decade.
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Long term I think Nic and Greg will become stars
short term the team needs a veteran 2-3 who can score consistently off the bench
Babbitt is a rook, Nate won’t lean on him with his job on the line. Bayless can be a 6th man but matching him up with a longer PG is a challenge.
The rumors of the team’s FA pursuit of Matthews and Farmar are only marginally comforting.
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I think Battier might provide just what we need.
by LT Hutch on Jul 2, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Depends what we had to give up.
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I liked Shane a lot more a few years ago
and Batum does a lot of the same things
outside shooter and defender, Battier’s BBIQ would be great, but he’s getting old and he’d still probably cost more than the MLE
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Depends on a couple of things
First of all, he would actually have to be a target. It looks like they are going for cheap, young-ish guys who are ready to contribute in the form of 3pters, defense, or a little of both. I dunno if Allen is what they are looking for, being older and more expensive.
Second, it depends on his relationship with Nate. If it is strong, and Nate makes the call, we might have a shot. If he’s not too big on playing for Nate again, it might be tough.
Third, Allen wants to win at this point, since he’s already made most of his money. If we pulled of the CP3 trade, he might be more inclined to join us.
in our dreams
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Harris or Paul and we're set, IMO
Even if it costs us Batum. Get Claver over here and let Babbitt, Cunningham, and him battle it out for that coveted starting SF spot.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
man all these rumors sounds so great that i think
we are gonna end up with nothing….cause all the good deals are being said to have been dead
WITH ODEN ON OUR SIDE
Agreed
Just like we were looking at trading for Vince Carter/Antawn Jamison/Richard Jefferson during the RLEC trading deadline. I would say we came out the better for not doing those moves.
"we" were also looking to acquire Andre Miller with the RLEC at that same deadline
and the last 16 months could’ve turned out very differently if “we” had. KP may still even be employed by Portland (if the Blazers had advanced out of round 1, etc)
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by two4larue on Jul 2, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
dude
we get it. It is not technically correct to refer to the Blazers as “we” since no one here is being paid by the organization, but we are just fans talking about our team. Just let it slide please.
by Attack on Jul 2, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I think you mean "we" get it
;)
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
We Blazer fans get it
Because we are one with Rip City.
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Did you change your boxers?
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
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by BlazersOrBust on Jul 2, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
my favorite question when someone uses the "royal we" in conversation
is “who’s we? Is there a mouse in your pocket?”
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ummm, that's probably not a mouse - if you know what i mean
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
or, are you just happy to see me?
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It isn't the "royal we"
The royal we is saying we for in place of me. That use of we is royal because as a king of England one might refer to oneself or be referred to as all England and all Englishman. The king therefore subsumes all of his subjects in himself, saying perhaps, “We are going to the bathroom then going out and hunting our favorite game.”
The use of the term we in the postings above is instead referring to oneself as merely part of a collective we. That use of the word ‘we’ is simply as a pronoun, and as such as ‘we’ is properly intended to be used — not as it might be stretched to meet the ‘special’ needs of a monarch.
I am a Blazer fan. I identify with the Blazer. I share in Blazer Mania with fellow Rip City fanatics. I become one of we. As in the proper English sentence, “Say what you will, but we need a healthy Greg Oden to reach the WCF.”
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by LaoTzu on Jul 3, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I doubt these rumors are ever really dead
As business people they probably keep track of all offers in case they need to open trading lines. If something changes for them (say Paul has another knee injury, or the Nets fall on their face again this year, or the Spurs miss the playoffs) then they have some idea how we value their player… I doubt Portland is done going after Paul/Parker/Harris as well as others…
"Chris Paul urges New Orleans Hornets to become active in free agency to improve their roster"
http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2010/07/chris_paul_urges_new_orleans_h.html
the chat was straying away from paul for a little too long :)
"Nicolas! You're the strongest boy in the world!"
Paul knows that NO is not going to commit money to free agents or get those free-agents.
This is what super-stars say when they start campaigning to be traded. It’s their excuse to the fans on why they want to leave town.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 2, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
that is kind of what I am thinking.
I think the best shot at CP3 will be right before the trade deadline.
Yup. He will have an unimpressive year up until February
NOH will obviously be missing the playoffs again, so management decides to consolidate around Collison and calls us back to see our offer on Paul.
The only good Farmar would bring to Portland is
inside info on the Lakers. Remember when Scottie Pippen helped Portland when we played LA, he knew alot of Phil Jacksons tricks and that helped alot….. Other than losing Game 7, but we wont talk about that. I’d pass on Farmar but he may be helpful when we play LA
I said I wanted some veteran playoff experience on the roster
but I take it all back re: Jordan. A little talent is also important from the incoming veteran player
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this...
…and i don’t appreciate taking La*ers table scraps.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
especially ones with big ears
I’d take Lamar Odom, though…too bad Portland didn’t have more capspace last summer, L*A may not have won again with LO
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*without LO
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I love and hate Odom's game
Depending on whether his head is in the game or not.
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No Farmar
I dont know why we need more PGs to logjam up our roster. If anything a new PG is not what we need, personally I dont think CP3 or Devin Harris will make up Champs. Not that I wouldnt want CP3 but I think he demands to high of a price. What we need isnt available for us to land.
For us to get great players we have to give up so much that then our team is still crappy with a couple of good players. We need 1 legit superstar to team with ROy for sure, but sorry folks that aint gonna happen. I hate to be a sour pus, but no one wants to play here and we dont have the funds or trade assets to pull off a major move. Plus, we have no GM and the whole NBA land scape has watched how the head honchos who run the Blazers work—and it aint pretty. Why put yourself in a bad situation or a worse situation—CP3 aint gonna do that and he has control over where he goes. Harris has less control, but I wouldnt give up LMA for him and favors-no way no how.
Face it—what we need is so unlikely to happen for us— that we might as well forget landing someone who is gonna shoot us up to the western conf finals or even make us champs right away. Its just not feasible. I havent even heard of one player looking at us that would make us legit contenders, not one!
The Dude: Hey, careful, man, there's a beverage here!
by cavejunctionblazer on Jul 2, 2010 12:37 PM PDT reply actions
Gay got 5 years 80, same contract as Roy
Brandon’s was 82 mil, but close enough. It is unfair how stupid some teams in the NBA are. Aldridge for 5 years 65 looks like a steal compared to Gay, and that doesn’t even compare to the deal rondo signed for even less. 5 players from 2006 in order of pay next year, Roy, Gay, Aldridge, Rondo (55), bargnani (50). memphis shouldn’t have waited, is this a lesson for Oden’s upcoming contract negotiations?
The Grizzlies just worked themselves over. Why don't they trade Pau Gasol while they're at it.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
Why don’t they trade Pau Gasol while they’re at it.
Because the L*kers don’t have Kwame Brown anymore, but maybe Kupchak will offer the Griz Josh Powell for Pau’s little brother?
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This could be going out on a limb, but I would trade Joel for Marc
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is there a third, younger Gasol brother?
Do the L@kers have his rights?
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
Yes, there is.
His name is Adria, and was born in 1994. He´s also very tall and plays basketball.
Forbidden to forbid!
No other teams are going to have any cap room
for Oden after this FA period. Some of the offers so far are ridiculous. I think the Blazers are making the right move by not extending Oden and seeing how this season goes. We might end up paying more than we would have by re-signing him sooner, but we’d surely feel the Bowie curse if we find ourselves locked into a giant contract with an unhealthy center. If he plays injury-free and really breaks out, we’ll still have the inside track to keep him.
Sergio going home!
It looks like Sergio’s time in America is over.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AiXhhXKdV8IOOHRPIczGJF8QmNIF?slug=ap-realmadrid-rodriguez
I'd like to ignore all of these rumors
but every time I close my eyes I see chris paul trowing a lob to greg oden
by StocktonNEP on Jul 2, 2010 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
He cuts through defenses like butter.
When he’s healthy.
But yeah CP3 would give Oden all kinds a good looks.
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New CBA
Does anyone else think that if LeBron signed a ONE year max contract with NY and threatened to go to Europe to play if there was a lockout in 2011 that a new CBA would be agreed to in a New York minute?
by Original Blazer Fan on Jul 2, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions
LeBron James, savior of the NBA
I highly doubt he’s that selfless though. That’s why he wanted to be a FA this summer.
what if he signed in cleveland for the min
would anyone ever say anything bad about him again
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Or if he came to the small northwest city of Portland and took the mle to really win a championship?
Nobody would question his reputation then
by philthebballplayer on Jul 2, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a whole group of people
who read Ayn Rand novels, that would consider a move that stupid to be unethical.
by HailOden! on Jul 2, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would say he is an idiot
But not if he did that for us!
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Looking East
Well, see how things shake out. But with a depth of great talent either moving east or staying in the east one could say the Blazers gain by default.
But if our ultimate goal is a championship and not just divisional or even conference championships…then what difference does it make? I don’t really like the idea of taking any solace in the concept that we have gained because others have lost. Even if that is the truth.
We still have the defending Champion Lakers and Blazer fans don’t like to hear it, but OKC and Durant are poised to become an young upper echelon team. So those are the dogs in the hunt that I keep my eyes on, and neither have done anything to weaken themselves. Infact I think they are improving.
Phoenix had a fantastic season and made a great run in the playoffs, but there are only so many sips from the fountain of youth that you can take, and Nash looked like he drank a liter last season. So I was looking ahead to Phoenix slowing down anyway, with or without Amare.
I see our competiton basicly unchanged regardless. Dallas, San Antonio and Houston aside, I think soon the path to the top of the West is determined by being able to compete with OKC and The Lakers. Given Kobe’s age and Durants youth, I’m actually more concerned with OKC.
Without injury, with continued improvement by Batum…I put The Blazers in the category of legitimate contenders…but lately “Without Injury” is a phrase not heard in association with The Blazers very often.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
You have to wonder
if the timing of the expiration of the CBA and a glut of FA isn’t going to put the league at financial risk during the whole of the next CBA, not to mention a large imbalance in competitiveness.
If I were the GM for Portland I would work to find an extra shooter and then wait for next season to cherry pick talent that won’t have panned out.
Next season
is where the deals are. Parker, Turiaf, Battier, Prince, M. Gasol, Nene, Diaw, and many others are going to be looking for new contracts, and if this crap continues, the league will be broke and there we’ll be with some space.
Of these names...
Battier sticks out to me. If Babbitt falls short, it wouldn’t hurt to have another elite defender backing up Batum, showing him how to be hated.
I read a great article on OLive about Batum’s exit interview, and it said thar McMillan didn’t consider him to be an elite defender yet, because he wasn’t hated. Batum said he tries to “hold the jersey, and walk on feet”, but needs to step it up before he earns the lockdown reputation. Shane would be a great character to show him the ins and outs of the game.
Battier could easily be our Bowen.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
so would Raja Bell
and he’s available right now
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I like Bell,
and he does a lot of the same things, but would we overpay if we picked him in this Summer of Gluttony?
I'd rather pay RB than Wes Matthews
but that’s me
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I'd prefer Bell as well
but Matthews is cheaper, most likely with a better $/WARP, and it looks like the Blazers are trying to address several needs. If we get someone like Morrow or Brewer, I won’t be upset in the slightest.
When we actually beat Denver, Dallas, Utah, OKC, and Phoenix handily as the favorites, then we'll be legit contenders.
Did you ever think in the last 2 years that we were a better team than Denver and Utah…we got spanked regularly.
Maybe a healthy full team will change all that…but usually each team has some injuries.
I think we need a shakedown in coaching and players….I worry that Roy may need a year to learn to play effectively with another good backcourt player.
Absolutely right
We need the interior game to attack those teams back. And someone, anyone, who can guard Anthony and their PGs.
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Lebron should sign with the Blazers
for one year @ the max with a team option for a second year @ the max if the Blazers win the championship and then the same deal for each year the Blazers win the Championship. I bet Allen wouldn’t mind paying the luxury tax for that and, heck, maybe the championship will actually pay for Lebron.
There's a league minimum
But there’s nothing says he can’t give it to us.
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we cant sign him at the max
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Who cares!
That’s what the luxury tax is for. I mean everyone is saying how rich Allen is. Just do it!
you can only go over the cap to sign players you have the bird rights to
ie not lebron
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marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless he is already in your city.
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7677 for GM.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." -- Bertrand Russell
appropriate sig
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
LOL
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"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jul 2, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
we're over the cap
we can only go over the cap to sign our own players
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
We don't have any room under the salary cap.
We can offer him our max, which is the Mid-Level-Exception: A little more than $5M.
Hey, you like Phil Knight, right? He's just over the hill!
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so is july 7th the day when all free agents will officially have a home?
or will this drama drag on for whole lot longer?
WITH ODEN ON OUR SIDE
the 7th at 9 pm PST
if you want to get technical… lol.
Actually 9:01 PST
just kidding. but seriously, i think it’s really 9:01.
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
I pick Christina Aguilera
FTW
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they say he will choose monday
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
men
top men
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Tuesday or Wednesday
We’ll see who’s right…
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
by axel360 on Jul 2, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They think LeBron's body is hot
Well, that’s what I hear.
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World Wide Wes
the man who knows all
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Good Lord, Mavs offering Dirk $96 million over 4 years
This type of money flying around makes me depressed
WITH ODEN ON OUR SIDE
but really were they going to give him less than the max?
It’s kind of like with K*be: he isn’t going to be worth $30 million in three years…it’s sort of loyalty/marketing type thing.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
at least he's not going to the Suns
to be reunited with Nash
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He'll age well though.
Big shooter who relies on deft footwork and not athleticism.
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"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jul 2, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, size and shooting age well
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
How in the heck?
Is China covertly funding the NBA now like they’re doing the Iraqi & Afghani ‘wars’?
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
I thought the CIA was doing that
through the heroin black market
(junk drawer material)
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wow.. hes good but nobody's that good from 32-36
Chris Paul 2010?
by collectiveshane on Jul 2, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Raquel Welch, much?
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Wow. thats $24M/yr...
Kobe I think will be making ~#30M a couple years from now. That’s ridiculous.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
not if the new CBA drops the maximum
as the owners and Stern are threatening to do
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dropping the max is one thing
retroactively dropping contracts is another, for sure. And I mean they’ll want to, but I expect the player’s association would oppose that more strongly than adjusting the max.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
by austinpwnz on Jul 2, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your posts are making too much sense
Are you the anti-TiH?
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it certainly doesn't help.
Dwight Jaynes was saying that today. It is going to be tough for the league to tell the players there is no money when so much is flying around right now.
The NBA is not immune to tough economic times…If this ridiculous money flow is not cut off, several teams could fold. Indiana, NJ, New Orleans, Toronto. Several points in the new proposal are oddly enough set up to protect owners from themselves.
The NBA is again rearing it’s ugly head simply because money is becoming the only way for teams to be competitive. I quit attending games a long time ago…It is just not worth the expense, and the better the team, the higher the ticket price. Sitting in the nose-bleeds in a seat that has no room for your arms and legs…just not my idea of a good time.
[Good defense "releases" your offense]
The league should contract
The talent is milked down.
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Yep, no buzz at all around Portland. I’m thinking we will be sticking it out with the same group.
I cant believe the type of money some of these guys like Frye and Darko are getting. Drew Gooden seems like the most reasonable money offered…I just cant believe Frye and Gooden signed basically the same deal. Crazy.
I love three 3 things in life: Family, Money, and Baseball. Come March the order of those three get changed up a bit.
Sacrilege?
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jul 2, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's a good "bad" beer.
I’ll drink it way before Miller/Coors/Bud/Natty. Busch and PBR are my favorites in that genre.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jul 3, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Let the Pfund begin!
But if this our new GM, I hope they fund the Pfund adequately.
"[S]ince men enjoyed very great leisure, they used it to pursue many kinds of commodities unknown to their fathers, and that was that first yoke they placed upon themselves without thinking about it, and the first source of evils the prepared for their descendants. For, besides continuing thus to soften body and mind, as these commodities had lost almost all their pleasantness through habit, and as they had at the same time degenerated into true needs, being deprived of them became much more cruel than possessing them was sweet; and people were unhappy to lose them without being happy to have them." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
I hope he gets the job.
I can’t wait to see how Pfund gets punned.
"[S]ince men enjoyed very great leisure, they used it to pursue many kinds of commodities unknown to their fathers, and that was that first yoke they placed upon themselves without thinking about it, and the first source of evils the prepared for their descendants. For, besides continuing thus to soften body and mind, as these commodities had lost almost all their pleasantness through habit, and as they had at the same time degenerated into true needs, being deprived of them became much more cruel than possessing them was sweet; and people were unhappy to lose them without being happy to have them." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Can the get a repfund if he pfails?
by Epimenides on Jul 2, 2010 7:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Let the Pfund begin!
. Oh boy here we go.
I too hope they Pfind a way to get him.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
you mean a Pfunky season
Geriatric Dunk Squad!
1/4/10 - Juwan Howard dunks on Chris Kaman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkOqDgLb6s
3/7/10 - Andre Miller Tomahawk jams on the Denver Nuggets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JVgm7F1QA
4/12/10 - Marcus Camby drops 30 and 13 on OKC to cement 50 wins. http://www.nba.com/blazers/media/camby_chant_041310.mp3
by Eat Politicians on Jul 2, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
and we'll have Pfund Pfund Pfund
until the lockout takes the season awayyyy
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Pfund?
Can we just call him Nash 2.0? Another bad retread. Yay.
"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave
I cant stand Farmar!!!
I dont know what it is about him, but if I could get a free punch on one person in the world it would be him. Like I said I cant figure out why I hate him so much I just do.
Pfund wouldn't sign Pfarmar...
For less than $6.8 mil/year.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
i can think of at least 3 lakers i would rather punch
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
UCLA -> L@kers
duh
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
I respect him for that, though.
At least he’s a hometown guy. A “pure L*ker”, if that’s not an oxymoron.
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#14
you'd probably end up with inky fists though
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
bro....
- Rick Fox
- Kevin Garnett
- Rick Fox
by Attack on Jul 2, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Couldn't Agree More...
on the first two. I would have to add Hory & Fisher to the list.
I liked Horry
When he played for the Rockets.
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Farmar?
what does that guy do? I dont think hes ever gotten a technical let alone gotten in a confrontation with an opposing player
Where do the Lakers rank in my life? I say Lakers, sex,...and breathing
he played for ucla and the lakers
and if he joins the blazers, roy wont be able to do this
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marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
still compared to the other laker players
hes not a very polarizing person
Where do the Lakers rank in my life? I say Lakers, sex,...and breathing
Clearly, you are not a Blazer's fan
L*kers players just really irritate us. Whether it’s K*be’s personality, Pau’s ugly mug, Artest’s chemical imbalance, Mr. Kardashian, Sasha the she-male, or Farmar’s ears.
obviously
we dont hate as mach as kobe, sasha or odom
but the hate is still there
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
even laker fans dont like sasha
haha
Where do the Lakers rank in my life? I say Lakers, sex,...and breathing
Believe it or not,
the hate for the Lakers is even in excess of the hate for the Utah Jazz up here. It doesn’t make sense, but neither does most of the City of Portland and it’s citizens. But it’s ours, and we like it that way.
"[S]ince men enjoyed very great leisure, they used it to pursue many kinds of commodities unknown to their fathers, and that was that first yoke they placed upon themselves without thinking about it, and the first source of evils the prepared for their descendants. For, besides continuing thus to soften body and mind, as these commodities had lost almost all their pleasantness through habit, and as they had at the same time degenerated into true needs, being deprived of them became much more cruel than possessing them was sweet; and people were unhappy to lose them without being happy to have them." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Keep Portland Weird
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Wow, someone needs to save these owners from themselves
the money they’re throwing at average/below average players is just ridiculous. I thought the league was losing money. I guess not. LOL
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
Yeah, I keep thinking that
They want a more rigid CBA that’s owner friendly, but all these rich hobbyists keep going out and bidding up the price of talent. You’d think these business moguls would understand enough about supply and demand and market prices to realize they’re doing it to themselves!
The issue being that there IS a lot of demand and not as much supply.
you’re seeing the consequences of that right now.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jul 2, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
It could also be a symptom of the writing on the wall.
IE, many sub-playoff franchises or bubble franchises foresee a time ahead when several teams are unable to make it, so they’re going all out to lock down stars now to at least keep butts in seats and not be at the bottom of the league.
The league will lose money, now
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Blake to LAL x4yrs
Per his sister on Canzano
by pdxrob on Jul 2, 2010 3:13 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
ah that's a good acquisition for both parties
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
and the blazers are trying to get Jordan Farmar..
what is wrong with this picture?? I can’t like Steve Blake anymore now. HE’S A LAKER!!
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
i never really liked him to begin with.
great guy, but there was too much drama over who was the best fit with roy last year. once blake was gone, miller showed everyone why he should have been starting since day one.
"Nicolas! You're the strongest boy in the world!"
will Nate join his binkey down in L*A next season after P-Jack retires?
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Then he'd be the coach with championship experience we were looking for.
"[S]ince men enjoyed very great leisure, they used it to pursue many kinds of commodities unknown to their fathers, and that was that first yoke they placed upon themselves without thinking about it, and the first source of evils the prepared for their descendants. For, besides continuing thus to soften body and mind, as these commodities had lost almost all their pleasantness through habit, and as they had at the same time degenerated into true needs, being deprived of them became much more cruel than possessing them was sweet; and people were unhappy to lose them without being happy to have them." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
I would love to have Blake back, but Nate cannot be trusted with him
Steve is a back-up. Or at best somebody to play off the ball with K#be. Roy is not MVP-level. Sorry.
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You're right
he should stay loyal to the franchise that let him go twice.
not saying coming to portland
but to the lakers? really?
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, why would he want to win a championship?
"I don’t give a ZACH about no trade rumors. As long as somebody ‘CTC’ at the end of the day, I’m with them. For all you that don’t know what CTC means, that’s ‘Cut the Check. I just go out there and play. Again, somebody just ’CTC'." -Sheed
Eh, I'm not insulted
It gives him a good shot at a ring, and most players, especially journeymen like Blake, don’t love or hate most teams or fanbases.
Any news about Trout yet?
My suspicion is that the Clips will offer him “out of this world money” after they’ve officially struck out on LeBron.
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#14
After digging a bit, it looks like the Wiz are interested.
Clips Nation thinks he’s as good as gone.
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#14
kristin confirms blake to the lakers
what a sell out
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yeah, he needs to jerk Ron-Ron's chain
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
To all the Blake haters, you should be happy he's a Laker
that way two of the objects of hate can merge into one.
I wasn't a Blake hater, though
I actually thought that Nate and KP would never let him go…not sad to be wrong about that one
I was critical of Steve starting over ’Dre, though. Like most everyone else
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
yeah, he really should have been loyal to the team that traded him away twice by not signing with the team that nobody considers a rival except for our fans.
by jksnake99 on Jul 2, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, I'm not sure I understand the Steve Blake hate.
If anything, this is a good thing for Portland fans due to Mike Miller not going to the Los Angeles Lakers.
only if the Blazers wise up and make MM an offer
which they should’ve done at 9:01pm the other night. Full MLE
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Lol
This is awesom. Rec. Seriously, Steve Blake owes the city of Portland/the Blazers nothing. If anything, I’m glad he’s with the Lakers now – he’s a downgrade
Speaking of cruel, Portland fired GM Kevin Pritchard an hour before the draft. Hey, he's only a top-seven GM -- there are plenty of those. Does anyone else think Al Davis died a year ago and took over Paul Allen's body? - Bill Simmons
Can't get over the fact that Pritchard -- fired earlier in the day -- is still running Portland's draft. If I were him, I'd be in Portland's war room loudly calling other GMs and saying things like, "I have an offer for you: I'll trade you our No. 23 pick, and in return, YOU HELP ME PULL THE F****** KNIFE OUT OF MY BACK!!!!! Do we have a deal????" - Bill Simmons
so does this blake signing mean that the lakers arnt getting mike miller?
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ooh, if so, sweet
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
then yeah
thanks blake, you’re awesome
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
probably not
that dudes expensive. i heard the wiz want to keep him too?
Where do the Lakers rank in my life? I say Lakers, sex,...and breathing
Reportedly 8 teams are going after Childress.
He would be dumb to go to the Wizards and we would be dumb not to at least offer him the MLE.
by Nick Van Excellent on Jul 2, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Good for him
He won a national championship in college, now he has a legitimate shot at winning one in the pros. Good for him..
Does that mean players liek Tyler Hansborough have shots at winning a chip in the pros?
Oh geez.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
What source sais blake is going to LA?
Where do the Lakers rank in my life? I say Lakers, sex,...and breathing
his wife and sister
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
if this is true
i dont know what to feel
Where do the Lakers rank in my life? I say Lakers, sex,...and breathing
yeah
blake is the most unclutchiest player of all time
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know about that...
I’ve seen him hit a few well-timed 3’s while he was with Portland.
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
Wasn't it down in LA that Blake missed like 4 FTs in a row and lost us a game?
Can he even hit a free throw in that building? Did they, like, even test him first?
After he missed those free throws, it cost him a year of confidence. Then his shoulder went out, and it has been hard for him.
Thanks for the good times, Steve! And, oh, thanks for Camby!
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why do the lakers love guys whos college careers have been beter than their pro careers?
ala morrison,walton,farmar,powell
Where do the Lakers rank in my life? I say Lakers, sex,...and breathing
makes up for kobe?
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn't say they love them
they’re on the payroll but never actually play
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
gives them people to beat up in practice
Geriatric Dunk Squad!
1/4/10 - Juwan Howard dunks on Chris Kaman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkOqDgLb6s
3/7/10 - Andre Miller Tomahawk jams on the Denver Nuggets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JVgm7F1QA
4/12/10 - Marcus Camby drops 30 and 13 on OKC to cement 50 wins. http://www.nba.com/blazers/media/camby_chant_041310.mp3
by Eat Politicians on Jul 2, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
re: Chicago and Wade
so he’s apparently meeting with them for a second time – with his agent this time. Word is they are trying to get him to commit before they meet with LBJ tomorrow. Apparently they already have a trade lined up for Deng that would clear the space needed to sign the 2nd max player.
My only thinking is that while I know LBJ is the better player, wouldn’t adding Bosh to a Rose/Wade/Noah combo be a better fit than adding LeBron? I mean there is only one basketball, and you are talking about 3 perimeter high-usage player there. Diminishing returns have got to kick in.
Miami could end up completely hosing themselves, settling for Boozer and not even having Wade anymore. Ouch.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/22948984
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wadelebronbulls072010
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
there's some statistical evidence that high-usage players become more efficient as their usage decreases
and I’d wager that effect is stronger when the usage-decrease isn’t due to age/decline.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
but that doesn't account for the ego factor
someone (or more than one someone) is going to have their stats suffer, their prestige take a hit, and won’t be making all star and all nba teams. That happens with older players who are willing to sacrifice that stuff (since they’ve already got years of it behind them). But we are talking about young guys entering their prime. Do they really want to be a 3rd banana when they can be a 1st banana?
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
I think the Dream Team experience will probably make it easier for them.
Winning makes everything easier.
"[S]ince men enjoyed very great leisure, they used it to pursue many kinds of commodities unknown to their fathers, and that was that first yoke they placed upon themselves without thinking about it, and the first source of evils the prepared for their descendants. For, besides continuing thus to soften body and mind, as these commodities had lost almost all their pleasantness through habit, and as they had at the same time degenerated into true needs, being deprived of them became much more cruel than possessing them was sweet; and people were unhappy to lose them without being happy to have them." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
100 games a year is a bit different
i could see the appeal souring after a year or two, but I guess we will see
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Do they really want to be a 3rd banana when they can be a 1st banana?
That’s when Red Auerbach would take one of them and make him a 6th man
but there are very few coaches who can as persuasive as Red around, nowadays
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Then again. Red Auerbach had the best player you could possibly want
chemistry-wise in Bill Russell. Didn’t exactly deal with Kobe in his day(Which would have been Wilt I guess).
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
no guaranteed contracts
Red could rule the Celtics with an iron fist
but the 6th man idea is still a good one. The L*kers still make it work with Odom
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Oh, indeed, coaches had a lot more power way back in his era.
Just saying :).
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-George Carlin (RIP)
Yep, that's what Popovich does in SA!
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I agree
as a Bulls fan (my 2nd loyalty since I lived in Chi-town for 10 yrs during the Jordan era) I would have to say that I would rather have them get the home town boy D-Wade (as opposed to the ego maniac LeDoucheBag).
If and when they sign Wade, they still have cap room, they should go after Bosh, Boozer, or Amare.
Only one ball to go around and let it be DWades team. Rose is chill enough to not care about all the hype but LeBron would need his touches or he might get winey. Plus a starting 5 of
PG- Rose
SG-Wade
SF-Deng (or whoever)
PF- Bosh
C-Noah
would almost be unstoppable.
And we keep that ego maniac from trying (and failing) to be like Mike. There is already a bronze statue outside the United Center, and it ain’t you James.
I
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Noah
could shoot the basketball 5 times all season and it would work! Are you kidding me. Between Rose, Wade, and Bosh there is enough offense to take them to the ECF’s next year. Noah just needs to rebound and block and it’s a 100% lock. Bosh can do the 10-12 ft jumpers in his sleep.
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Since Noah
can’t really play with his back to the basket like Bosh can, Noah would have to shoot a midrange jumper. And with Bosh in the middle Noah’s rebounding is bound to suffer. Now if Noah could work from the high post…
I think
you’re getting a little ticky tacky. All I am saying is who cares what Noah is doing if you have 3 all world players at 3 of 5 positions. Plug and play Darius Miles at the 3 for all I care, they still win 65 games. Tell me you wouldn’t jump at the chance to have Rose at the 1, Wade at the 2, and Bosh at the 4. 3 rings guaranteed.
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The fact that Noah is not a legit center is not ticky-tacky
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so I was thinking
How screwed would Chicago be if Ernie Grunfeld started reading all these blogs and realized what a mistake he’d made with the Hinrich trade, and then reneged on it (as his last act before resignation/firing so the stigma wasn’t on the franchise maybe)?
Pretty screwed, methinks.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
I still don't grasp why Ernie Grunfeld made that move, since Kirk Hinrich is one of those guys who ...
should’ve been acquired by a contender rather than a pretender. It’s one thing if the Los Angeles Lakers had made a play for Hinrich this past trade deadline for expiring contracts (e.g., Adam Morrison, Jordan Farmar, & Josh Powell), but at this point no team should’ve aided the Chicago Bulls in its quest to clear cap space.
I think mainly due to the pressure of having to do SOMETHING with his cap space and...
the knowledge that no max level FA was going to DC. Although with John Wall, he probably should have given it a shot.
In any case Hinrich is less overpaid considering the contracts of the last two days, but not what they need at all. I wonder…who do the Wizards have at SF? Should they have taken Luol Deng instead?
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
Mentor for Wall
Insurance if they trade Arenas
Expiring contract to use next season, or possibly good trade at this deadline
Good guy who won’t show up at work with guns
Nice guy to get if you want to change the team culture to tough and plays defense
And came with the 17th pick, for a guy they reportedly really wanted to get in the draft
Lots of room to criticize the trade for the cap hit, but there are some good basketball reasons to make it.
Wow
Source believes Wade is leaning toward joining Bulls
-Chad Ford
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Wow, indeed.
D-Wade was getting press for being the one superstar who was recruiting for his team instead of searching out the best place for him to play.
If he leaves, Miami could get skunked out of all 3 of their big name targets.
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Serves McRiley right!
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i am shocked
i thought wade was staying in miami
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
The Heat
may as well leave Miami. Imagine if both Cleveland and Miami get hosed by their super duper fame craving mega stars. Ouch!! The talk of Strasburg being a one man economic stimulus package is trumped 10 fold in the opposite direction (I guess you could call it a one man recession package) by these guys bailing on their respective cities.
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been told the meeting between the Bulls and Boozer went well and that the Bulls have Carlos Boozer locked up if they want him
From chicagonow.
Boozer and Rose and Wade together is terrifying.
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by rise_stand_resist on Jul 3, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions
they should be
even if they strike out with LeBron, just adding Wade is a homerun. And chances are, they will get Bosh, or worst case would be Boozer. Even worst case is very very good
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
If they get LeBron AND D-Wade, D-Rose is a potential trade chip.
Which is terrifying.
Probably wouldn’t work, though, since he’s on a rookie contract. There’s no way they’d get equal value… MAYBE a straight-up trade for Brook Lopez (which NJ would never do).
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D-Rose is a potential trade chip.
Hello, CP3! Welcome to the windy city
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If Rose had a better outside shot
then I think a lot of people would be looking to trade for Rose instead of Paul.
I guess...if winning championships are your thing....
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by BlazersOrBust on Jul 2, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
If they get LeBron and Wade
how are they going to get Boozer, Lee, or Bosh?
Nobody wants Luol Deng’s contract!
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
apparently they already have a trade for Deng lined up
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
That team is dumb (whoever is trading for Deng's contract)
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
It's probably us.
Well, maybe not, since we don’t have the cap space and all. But after a comment like that…
"[S]ince men enjoyed very great leisure, they used it to pursue many kinds of commodities unknown to their fathers, and that was that first yoke they placed upon themselves without thinking about it, and the first source of evils the prepared for their descendants. For, besides continuing thus to soften body and mind, as these commodities had lost almost all their pleasantness through habit, and as they had at the same time degenerated into true needs, being deprived of them became much more cruel than possessing them was sweet; and people were unhappy to lose them without being happy to have them." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
You mean my comment mocking whichever team is ready to trade for Deng?
guess that’d be karma
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
you bite your tongue
that’s just has enough plausibilty to be true
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hate the Jazz, why?
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
at least Brandon isn't going there
for at least 4 years…unless it’s for Deng tomorrow
(ducks)
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(throws something, aiming low)
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
yeah
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
he was actually from chicago
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Blake getting 4 years, 16 million
good for him. and he will be a great fit for the Lakers. Really good signing
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Yep, I could see him starting over Fish by the deadline.
He did really well for the Clips whenever he started. PG of the near future for L*kers
they couldn't get Hinrich
so they settled for Kirk-Lite
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There is a rumor that the Russian mega-billionaire own the Nets is considering hiring Lil'Wayne as his Player Personnel Representative
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This broke probably less than 30 minutes ago
and it’s already old news
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
And its official, the Lakers maintain their rep as the whitest team in the league
Man, we were like the black panthers of the NBA in the 80’s. Now our players look like frat boys
Where do the Lakers rank in my life? I say Lakers, sex,...and breathing
Possibly boredom?
Like, “I wonder how many white guys we can have on our roster and still win an NBA championship?”
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
by axel360 on Jul 2, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
blake, sasha, walton, morrison, gasol
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
if sergio didn't suck
he would have been our starting pg
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I never
thought Morrison was going to be this bad in the NBA.
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
neither did Paul and KP
Zzzing
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recall his bad ACL injury
but still underwhelming even before that
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
Did you see those fashion photos K#be did all up in super white hooded deals
Man that was special. Maybe he could go all Michael Jackson?
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40 win season right there baby
Where do the Lakers rank in my life? I say Lakers, sex,...and breathing
That lineup wouldn't get within screaming distance of 40 wins.
25 would be a good year.
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"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jul 2, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Make that 15
Gasol is realistically the only viable option. The others are back up role players.
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL and rec.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jul 2, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Lakers?
Um, Jazz? Pacers?
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
Can't beat the Pacers in that regard.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
You can't out-white the Pacers.
The Jazz certainly fight like hell to do it though
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by rise_stand_resist on Jul 3, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
latest from chad ford
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5348670
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
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"phil jax wasn't going to go back to the lakers, unless they could get steve blake....zensational."
@beyondthebeat
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by ericking on Jul 2, 2010 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
hahahaha
wait is this for real?
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
A Woj
Steve Blake could’ve signed for more money elsewhere, but wisely chases ring with Lakers at 4 years for $16 million. Shrewd signing for L.A.
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
for sure
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
the Lakers always get the hometown discount - even for guys from other teams and cities
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
That signing is going to be funny....
when the Lakers aren’t able to 3-peat.
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
Does Blake have problems making post-entry passes?
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
ya
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
all he can do is shoot the 3
ok passer and ball handler, not a good defender, cant run the pick and roll
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
And will turn it over in the 4th quarter when trapped because he gets flustered.
Nate better spring a full court trap if we ever meet la in the playoffs and we’re down in the 4th.
"I think he’s been doing some good things. I think he’s been doing some good things. He’s had to play a lot of minutes lately with Blake being out. I think he’s been doing some good things." -Nate McMillan
Oh, and can't throw the outlet or run the fast break
Except as a trailer for the spot up 3.
Good at spreading the floor though, and spacing is primary in the triangle.
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if he could
oden would have averaged 20 points last season
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
man, i'm not pleased.
iirc blake can be quite indecisive at times. that trait is going to stall the offense and lead to kobe bail out shots.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
He doesn't take anything off the table, but he also doesn't bring much to it.
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ron artest
Welcome Steve Blake! He super dope!!!
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 4:26 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
For some reason I can't imagine Ron Ron and Steve Blake hanging out
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
RonRon would probably eat him.
Not even kidding. Blake on rye, with a side of ’slaw.
There exists a quality which is nameless.
I dunno, Blake does MMA
He’s pretty tough, I think.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
Steve needs to keep his head on a swivel
and get in his best shot before Artest can brace himself
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What a great mental picture...
Artest suspended mid-air, line of drool drawing a perfect arc to Blake’s extended fist in a perfect uppercut.
There exists a quality which is nameless.
No side of slaw
It would overwhelm the taste of the Steve.
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Blake & Ron are a couple of tough dudes.
Even if they don’t end up with great defense, they will cause your perimeter players some serious pain.
In Bayless I trust.
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Man, I love Ron Artest.
What a goofball.
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Ron Ron and Blake are going to set LA on FIRE!!!
In Bayless I trust.
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have fun with the looney bin
have to admit, he’s pretty funny though, check these out if ur bored, there good for a laugh or two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgRdRwNgs9A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjlxCyUbpMo&feature=fvst
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
what was free agency and trade deadlines like before twitter?
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
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No leaks
by social media guru’s like Bosh.
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I could be wrong but
was the world able to communicate before twitter?
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Darn
twitterbugs ruined everything! Tweeting like there’s no tomorrow!
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
There's no tomorrow?!?
Crap, why do I always get the news too late? Guess I better get twitter.
There exists a quality which is nameless.
Back then, things were thweet!
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Chicago getting close?
daldridgetnt
Uh-oh: RT @ChiTribuneLive: CSN (Comcast Sports Chicago) has confirmed Wade and Bosh are both at agent Henry Thomas’s office with Bulls…
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
wow. LeBron left out in the cold? Or LeBron+Boozer to the Heat? LeBron back to Cleveland and Miami screwed?
miami
going from all 3 of them to none of them
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
i would think Cleveland with the Nets as option 2
no way he goes to Miami to play with Chalmers and Beasley.
If Chicago can lock those two up, they might get heat for doing it before even meeting with James. But I say it’s a smart move. 2 stars in hand is worth it – you could risk waiting and getting only 1 or even none. Besides, I still say James/Wade/Rose is not ideal
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
yeah, its the LeBron+Bosh to Chicago scenario that’s the most terrifying for the rest of the league.
Ya
come to think of it, that is pretty scary.
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I would bet the Nets have a better shot than Cleveland does
Harris, Williams, LeBron, Favors, and Lopez. Probably a better lineup than LBJ has ever had before, assuming T-Will and Favors can grow up fast. And there are still more moves Prokhorov can make to get better.
He is getting Lil'Wayne to head Player Relations
P-A-R-T-Y!!!
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Via RONARTESCOM (His Twitter acct.)
Jordan is my homie. Not sure what’s happening. But mitch is a dope gm 14 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
http://twitter.com/RONARTESTCOM
I assume he is referring to Farmar. Wonder what Ron Ron knows that we don’t…
"Batum must be french for: being at the right place at the right time" -
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"Juwan "The Clipper Killer" Howard" - Natedog1977 @ ClipsNation
" I would trade our entire team for Brandon Roy"
- Slick4President @ Indy Cornrows
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jul 2, 2010 5:25 PM PDT reply actions
RonRon probably knows a lot we don't...
but none of it’s true.
There exists a quality which is nameless.
I guess I don't for certain.
But the dude sounds loony as hell….
"Batum must be french for: being at the right place at the right time" -
-StudMuffin15 @ Rufus On Fire
"Juwan "The Clipper Killer" Howard" - Natedog1977 @ ClipsNation
" I would trade our entire team for Brandon Roy"
- Slick4President @ Indy Cornrows
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jul 2, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
So you're saying he fits criterion number one!
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jul 2, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Architect of the Heat team that won the 2006 championship.
We could do worse.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jul 2, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I think maybe some of that credit accrues to Pat Riley.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
My thoughts exactly.
There’s a reason why Pfund is, again, assisting Riley.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
the bright side to not being in the big FA feeding frenzy this summer
raining on July 4th weekend can’t be good for our chances….
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
?
its been beautiful this week
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
what part of town are you in?
I drove through Sherwood about an hour ago and it was the heaviest pocket of rain I’ve seen in awhile
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with exception of last nigh and today
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
by this week i meant last week
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Endless March
Rained yesterday. Raining today. June sucked.
Really, it’s felt like a decent, but incredibly long March. I work at a sauna, and business has been booming.
There exists a quality which is nameless.
it was in the 70's last week
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by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
It was nice because the Rose Festival closed and July 4 weekend wasn't here yet
Duh.
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if Chicago ends up getting the big 3 to pair with Rose
And then start dominating, I’ll probably stop watching the NBA for a few years like I did back when the Lakers were rolling in 00-03. I know the powers that be like the marketing revenue and casual fans they can haul in selling dynasties, but I think it’s really bad for the true NBA fans of the other 29 teams.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
As we have seen so far in free agency, players still value $ over wins
There is no way more than 2 big time FAs go to Chicago, and even then one would have to go in a S&T or accept a lot less money
not if they can trade Deng
and if some idiot GM takes that salary off their payroll, he should be shot
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
you mean the rumor that was started in the Olive chatroom
and wound up on ESPN radio on Chi-town?
you can’t scare me like that
although I’m sure there are some KP fans who wouldn’t mind if Larry Miller was shot
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I'm in too deep...
to stop watching now, but I’d prolly do what I did this season and stop caring after the Blazers get bumped.
There exists a quality which is nameless.
I wanted Celts to get Redick, Blake, Outlaw and/or M. Miller with their midlevel (or part).
-Bill Simmons (@sportsguy33)
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#14
Always
knew he was envious of the Blazers deep down.
by NorthWest Connection on Jul 2, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
He likes the Blazers, loves the fans.
He just really, REALLY hates Oden over Durant.
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He is kind of like an abnoxious Big brother
Always rubbing what he sees as a bad choice in our faces but down in his heart he is jealous that we are honor students and he does love our fan base in general terms
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jul 3, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like all the max players
are waiting for someone to make a move, and the deadline will pass and nothing will happen.
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#52
#5
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according to World Wide Wes
LeBron is going to decide on Monday
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
But is he going to tell anyone?
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If he is going to "decide" on Monday, he either already has, or he already has pending some choices by people like Wade and Bosh
9/1/11 -- When the party in Pioneer Courthouse Square finally stops after our next Championship!
he's going to hear all the teams out, this weekend
and let everybody know his decision on Monday (at least, probably not before then)
so have a good weekend, there’s no need to stay glued to the tube (or PC, as the case may be…)
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
was just on the jazz blog...
and someone called the blazers trailb*tches for going after Matthews. I thought that was hilarious!
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
Well I hate the Jazz
So it’s all good.
by Jam Master Jay on Jul 3, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
tell them they're whiners
especially during home games
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Fair play to them.
In Bayless I trust.
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Blazers targetting Roger Mason?
Real GM has a story posted about the Blazers interested in Roger Mason.
AK1984 will be pleased
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