Meet Rich Cho
If draft night was an awkward funeral for the Kevin Pritchard era in Portland, Monday afternoon was a joyful baptism for Pritchard's replacement, Rich Cho. In place of awkward glances between team employees, there were full-body hugs; in place of steely demeanors, there were handshakes; and in place of a smiling Larry Miller there was... well... a smiling Larry Miller. Only this time everyone else was smiling too.
Miller had every reason to smile, having landed arguably the assistant general manager most deserving of the bump to general manager, proving those who doubted his ability to land a "name" candidate. Although Miller initially talked up the team's desire to add experience to its front office, beginning his search with two old hands -- Danny Ferry and Randy Pfund -- he wound up with an executive who is uniquely qualified for the position and situation.
League sources first raised Cho's name to me back in March with the idea that he might serve as Tom Penn's replacement. He seemed a natural fit alongside Pritchard given his profile: young, hungry, intelligent, cap-knowledgeable and stat-savvy. But Cho makes sense as Pritchard's successor too and he was one of only two candidates (out of "four or five" that Miller said he interviewed) who was introduced to Paul Allen.
This afternoon, I spent almost an hour tagging along with Cho and peppering him with a few questions as he attended a season ticket holder party in the Rose Quarter. To get a feel for how Cho fits here in Portland, and how he did on his first day at the job, let's take a look at each aspect of his new surroundings.
President
Let's start with Larry Miller, President, who has seemingly dealt with more questions in the past month than he has in the past 3 years combined. Boil Miller down to a single foundation concept and it's this: Basketball operations and business operations cannot and should not function independently of each other. Whether or not you agree with that premise that is his mandate. Any general manager that reports to him must understand that completely and operate accordingly.
Cho fits nicely in that respect given his experience on both sides of the SuperSonics/Thunder organization. It's not just his understanding of the salary cap and salary structures -- which have long been hailed as impressive -- but it's the dollars and cents, expenditures versus revenue side too. The Blazers are shifting into an era where every decision becomes more costly, thanks to their luxury tax situation, pending contract extensions for key pieces like Greg Oden, Nicolas Batum and Jerryd Bayless and the potential for a lockout and a re-writing of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. As good as Kevin Pritchard and company were at managing their salary cap and finding undervalued assets, Sam Presti and Cho have been as good or better. And when it comes to entering this new era, Pritchard's basketball operations only resume, on paper, is less appealing than Cho's.
Personality conflicts between members of the business and basketball operations eventually devolved into a power struggle this year. In Cho, you have an executive that can relate to Miller's point of view, based on his experience, in a way that Pritchard simply couldn't. Whether that's a good thing or bad thing for the organization remains to be seen. But it's certainly a good thing for Miller.
Scouts
The scouts (and their entire department) are perhaps the biggest winners here. There existed genuine concern among multiple levels of the scouting department about how their operations would be affected by Pritchard's departure and a new hire. When Miller gave contract extensions to Director of NBA Scouting Mike Born and Director of College Scouting Chad Buchanan some of the pressure was relieved, but not all of it. Born and Buchanan are both solid guys, well-respected around the league and team-first employees. Both showed loyalty and compassion to their friend -- Pritchard -- while unfailingly placing the organization first in their public statements. That attitude would have translated no matter who replaced Pritchard. They would be ready, willing and able to assist whatever direction the new boss decided to take. They would have gotten in line if a new direction had been sought, even if it ran contrary to their personal approaches.
In Cho, though, the scouts get a dream hire. Not only does he come across much like the scouts do personality-wise -- in that he's ego-free and anxious to acquire as much information as possible -- he evaluates players using the exact same methodology. Back in March at the Sloan Sports Analytics Conference, the team's scouts discussed using the "eyes, ears and numbers" test to analyze players based on watching them, doing background research on them and analyzing their statistical impact and body of work. In interviews today, Cho echoed that exact same approach word for word.
Cho has been touted as a statistically-inclined executive so I prodded him a little bit about how he makes advanced statistical analysis work for him on the basketball side. "We kind of look at analytics as three pieces: one is player evaluation, the other is self-analysis and how are we doing as a team, and then third it's the coaching and strategic aspect." Does he have a proprietary formula or is he using information that's available to the general public? "For the most part APBRmetrics people are familiar with the [stats I use.] But it’s more than just those types of things. Other non-traditional things like shot charts and things like that."
To get a sense for how Cho views players, here's his assessment of Wesley Matthews and the large offer Portland made to him. "I think he's a good player. He's got toughness, plays defense, he wasn't drafted so he's hungry. He's a 38% shooter from threes. I think he's a good signing, he gives us a little more depth. In any type of free agency situation, you have to put up a lot of money to get the other team not to match. Utah showed a willingness to match the last couple of years with C.J. Miles and Paul Millsap so I understand where the money was." Later, in an interview with Mike Barrett, Cho pointed to Matthews's particular strength shooting from the left corner.
Whether you agree with that logic or not, this should help you get a sense for how he thinks. In that one paragraph, you get a detailed skillset description, character assessment, raw numbers and a pragmatic and savvy approach to how the league operates. You also get a feel for the lack of emotion involved in the decision-making and why the word "analytical" comes up immediately when people describe his approach.
Employees
Are you concerned that the egghead will be more natural in the draft room than as a leader of employees? That's a fair question at this stage of the game. If Cho's past stops are any indication he will quickly ingratiate himself. Former co-workers took to Facebook and Twitter to express their excitement for Cho, who is seen as both a relentlessly hard worker and an amiable sports guy. But even today, amidst the excitement of hundreds of fans literally rushing to shake Cho's hand, multiple Portland Trail Blazers employees told me that they still missed Pritchard's ability to make them feel like conversational equals rather than as employees only.
If there's an obvious area of concern it's right here: Can he rally the troops?
Media / Fans
Cho isn't the natural conversationalist that Pritchard is but I found him to be an effective communicator during our roughly fifteen minutes of off-and-on chatting. Above all, he's an efficient speaker. If you ask a question that can be answered in two words, Cho will use two words. If you trail or hint at something in the hopes that he picks up the ball and runs with it, he won't. He's admitted that he needs work on handling the media and the press but his accessibility and general friendliness (he made it a point to let multiple writers know he reads their work) earned him a number of fans.
Although he came off as surprised by all the attention being given to him, he didn't lose his cool, which would have been understandable given the enormity of the event and the passion with which he was greeted. "I'm used to people not knowing me. [The attention] is definitely kind of different. I'm very excited. I wouldn't say overwhelmed. But I'm very excited." The only signals that anything was getting to him was when he took off his jacket in the afternoon sun and when he nearly ran into a wall because he was so caught up in answering a question and didn't know exactly where he was going to the Blazers Broadcasting Studio. Otherwise he didn't flinch as he spent the hour conduc ting interviews with three separate media outlets, posing for at least a dozen photographs with fans, impressing long time season ticket holders like Georgia Muller (pictured above) and, well, autographing a child.
Had Cho ever signed an autograph before? "A couple times," he told me, laughing. "The fans here seem great, really enthusiastic, it's just a great situation here." It was his biggest smile of the afternoon, a shy and self-deprecating one at that.
The day's sourest moment came on my drive down to the Rose Quarter, when an afternoon radio caller twisted Cho's love of statistics, Sushi and ping-pong into a questioning of his toughness. Not to be overlooked in all of the political drama this summer was a key fact: Portland lived up to its franchise moniker in a big way today, naming the first Asian-American general manager in the NBA's history. The significance wasn't lost on Cho even if he looked just a touch annoyed by those broaching the topic. "I'm humbled and honored to be a GM as an Asian-American. Beyond that I'm just going to do my best and I look forward to doing my best and do everything I can to make the team successful."
Owner
Cho's fit with Paul Allen is the trickiest to determine because it's so difficult to get a read on how exactly Allen operates and with how many different intermediaries. If timing and logistics are any indication -- Cho took a well-reported flight to Helsinki that ended with an offer before he made the return trip -- Allen likes Cho.
Cho, for his part, was very impressed with his new boss. "I had never met him," Cho told me. "Very smart man. Very thoughtful in his dialogue with me and in his questions. I was really excited to meet him. I had a heard a lot of good things about him and I just think with his commitment to winning that was one of the things that really appealed to me."
Cho plans to spend the next few days back in Oklahoma getting his affairs in order. "When I come back, I'll be back for good. I'll meet with the coaches, I'll meet with our scouts, I'm going to speak with all of the agents, meet with the players, it's going to take some time." At the top of his list will be a decision about who will serve as his chief assistant general manager. "I'm looking for somebody with experience," Cho said of his prospective assistant. "Someone that will complement the rest of the group. I've got some names in mind and I'm going to work on that as soon as I can." If I'm the owner, that's music to my ears.
Expectations
I started off this piece by calling today a baptism of sorts for Cho, an introduction to his future, his new surroundings and his new environment. With every baptism comes some cold water. For Cho, that cold water comes in the form of two-fold expectations: filling Kevin Pritchard's shoes and building a team that will go deeper into the playoffs.
When I brought up the subject of Pritchard, Cho did some tapdancing. "I consider Kevin a friend. I have the utmost respect for him. I thought he did a really good job here and I'm sure he'll land on his feet no problem." To his credit, he acknowledged that Pritchard's firing and the way it was handled was a difficult situation for Blazers fans. "I followed it pretty closely. From afar. When you're watching it from afar you just never know what's going on." Asked if he had spoken or exchanged communications with Pritchard, things ground to a halt as he took an extra moment to think, a rarity today. "I haven't talked to him for awhile," he finally admitted, with what seemed like difficulty. "I'm not sure exactly."
Credit his honesty and the fact that he didn't duck the question. But Pritchard's shadow still lingers, even as it feels like the organization is writing a new chapter. It will continue to do so until Cho puts his stamp on this roster. He wouldn't commit to addressing any particular position, although rumors about trading Andre Miller and/or Jerryd Bayless have picked up in recent weeks. "I don’t want to say right now. I want to come in and evaluate the situation, talk to Chad and Mike, talk to the coaches and kind of go from there."
Any discussion of playoff expectations left Cho similarly cautious. Asked if the Blazers had enough talent to be considered the Northwest Divison favorites, Cho refused to over-sell. "It's hard to say. A lot of it - we'll see what happens with the injuries. I hope we're in the thick of things and I'm going to do everything I can to improve the roster and hopefully take another step." He also said he had no championship-or-bust mandate from Allen. "It's more make progress from where we've been. He didn't set any timelines."
Final Thoughts
A phrase I heard a lot during this week's Las Vegas Summer League was this: "He's not that guy." In other words, a specific player was trying to do things he wasn't capable of, stepping outside of his skillset, carrying himself in a larger manner than he should, over-promising and under-delivering, underwhelming while being overpaid or overhyped.
I suspect the initial reaction to Cho's hiring from some quarters will be those doubtful words: "He's not that guy." Can he swing the big deal? What does he know about playoff success? Is he really, truly ready? Can he step into Kevin Pritchard's shoes?
I'm not sure there are answers yet to those questions. But today, Cho was that guy who magnetically drew swarms of people to him, that guy who put smiles on the faces of important executives, that guy who was as accessible to the media as it gets. Based on his day one performance, Cho seemed to me like that guy who immediately restores some youthful excitement to a confused fanbase while also adding stability to an organization that, for awhile, seemed to have lost its way again.
-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
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First Burmese-America bald person to work for Paul Allen!!!!!!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Is he really of Burmese decent?
… really, his race is irrelevant other than to note it as a first; just as Gary Locke was the first Asian-ancestor governor in the USA. Washington State wins again.
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I was just thinking that a good nichkame for Rich Cho the GM would be
The Burmese Python
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
for some reason I wanted to call him Jimmy Choo
but of course Jimmy Choo is from Malaysia.
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Ahh, Malaysia ...
Some of the best, if not THE best, food I’ve ever had. The hawker stalls there are amazing.
Duct tape makes you smart.
had some Indian food in Penang (Malaysia) that blew my socks off (figuratively because I was wearing flip-flops).
(Tyro Sex and I had some nice pizza in Cambodia one time.)
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I love Penang
If you’re ever back there, be sure to go to Gurney Drive – if you haven’t already. Hawker stalls as far as the eye can see – Chinese, Malay, Indian, Thai, “mahmat” (sp?). Great food.
Duct tape makes you smart.
i also think the mariners have the first asian-decent manager right?
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
by Tofu Anonymous on Jul 20, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry to burst your bubble
But Ben Cayatano, a filipino-american, was elected the Governor of Hawai’i in 1994.
I’m pretty sure under the broadly generic qualification of “asian” that filipino counts. Not that it even matters except in that historical almanac trivia kinda way. :-)
Like the Whos down in Whoville they did it without boxes or ribbons or bows, they did without centers or posting down low. They won without All-Stars and Spaniards and Frenchmen. They won with old geezers and sub-par defense-men. They won playing rookies from deep off the benches. They won with their grit and their guts in the trenches. And some who observed them have been known to say that their hearts grew three sizes (at least!) on the way. One hopes with their poise and their passion now proven that once they are healthy their game will be groovin'. -- Dave
by conspirator5 on Jul 20, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
But Hawai'i's just barely a state ... wasn't it a Pacific Protectorate in 1994 or something?
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Dude. I'm so gonna have to find you.
I can’t tell you what it’s like to have to answer endless stupid questions like,
1. Do you need a green card to work in the US?
2. How fun was it to grow up living on the beach and eating coconuts and stuff?
3. You mean you’re not mexican? (Actually, I’m as white as it gets, but multiple immediate family members who are part Hawaiian, Maori, whatever, get labeled this way all the time)
It really boggles the mind to hear stuff like that these days. I mean, okay, you never lived there. Ever watch Magnum P.I? Seriously!
I figure you were yanking my chain, but it’s a sore spot. There’s 50 stars on the flag for a reason. :-D
Like the Whos down in Whoville they did it without boxes or ribbons or bows, they did without centers or posting down low. They won without All-Stars and Spaniards and Frenchmen. They won with old geezers and sub-par defense-men. They won playing rookies from deep off the benches. They won with their grit and their guts in the trenches. And some who observed them have been known to say that their hearts grew three sizes (at least!) on the way. One hopes with their poise and their passion now proven that once they are healthy their game will be groovin'. -- Dave
by conspirator5 on Jul 20, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously, I’ve had people ask me what it was liking growing up on horseback with the threat of Indian attacks … because that’s all they know of the “Old West,” which is Oregon.
Also, living in the Caribbean and Asia, I get asked all sorts of dumb questions: “Does this island go all the way to the bottom?” “what if it sinks?”
I’ve been to Hawai’i. Native Hawaians look nothing like Mexicans, in my opinion.
Neither does Cho.
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Ben ...
Any Blazer players at that event?
Any inside scoop on how they feel about the hire?
I’m sure they will all be eager to say they love it, but Brandon said the other night he wanted it done as quickly as possible: guess he got his wish.
On another note. I know you’ve spent long weekends on Mr. Allen’s lil’ boat “Octopus.” Could you tell us, is the Champagne all vintage Dom, or is there some non-vintage Rose in there too?
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I was at the event
No blazer was there other than Terry Porter, who signed autographs.
One thing was telling to me: the excitement level was a bit low, something that I thought I’d never see at any Blazers event. Cho’s introduction by Mike Barrett was received with mild and lacksadasical applause, an obvious sign to me that KPs firing may taint Cho a bit until he actually does something.
Cho was a bit awkward when being interviewed, his posture and speaking ability seemed stiff and robotic. He did, however, embrace the fans with open arms, shaking hands and taking pictures (most of which had Larry Miller jump in.)
Of course, at this point, being nice and KPs ghost does not matter. The only thing that does matter is seeing his math tricks in place and getting us the championship piece(s) he clamed we need.
by JMLakaShotCaller on Jul 20, 2010 12:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
And as for the REAL question: How’s the Champagne on Octopus? 5-star or run-of-the-mill billionaire? I have to think Paul goes for the good stuff.
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PA doesn't drink champagne..... He has slave girls feed him grapes one by one!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Event
That’s not what I saw…fans who wanted pictures asked Larry Miller to be in them….there wasn’t a lot of fans there really so I certainly wasn’t going to take the introduction and the intensity of the hand clapping as a sign that he can’t do the job and fans don’t like him. I was happy he was there …and answered the same questions once again.
I spoke with him and found him engaging and maybe a bit worn out from the day and the intensity of the Blazer fan microscope…he gets an “A” from me by surviving it. His handshake
was strong and frankly I want a guy who doesn’t thrive putting his mug in front of a camera and microphone. I am going to give him a fair chance……
Is it November yet?
David Stern's wife??? The guy who does Pat Riley's hair???
League sources first raised Cho’s name to me back in March with the idea that he might serve as Tom Penn’s replacement.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Awesome Writeup Ben
I hope Cho hits the ground running and gives us something more to talk about this summer.
Otherwise he didn’t flinch as he spent the hour conducting interviews with three separate media outlets, posing for at least a dozen photographs with fans, impressing long time season ticket holders…and, well, autographing a child.
Had Cho ever signedan autographa little kid before? “A couple times,” he told me, laughing.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Jul 20, 2010 12:05 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
And he thought he was going to have to go all Randy Marsh and to become a dolphin...
“I’m humbled and honored to be a GM as an Asian-American.”
Great write-up, Ben…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Fantastic article!
I’m really excited about Cho taking control of this roster. He seems like a level-headed dude that I think will make some great decisions for the team.
Greg Oden ate my baby. Need money for body-building training so that I may take my revenge.
Another nice job Ben!
Matty Walker: You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man. - Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 20, 2010 12:32 AM PDT reply actions
Sonic Trade
In the press conference Nate brought up a trade, but didn’t say which one, that no one with the Sonics thought could happen but Cho got it done, was that the Gary Payton for Ray Allen deal I wonder?
Rick Sund mentioned that trade earlier today
and he said that Cho was “helpful” in making that “difficult deal” happen
Sund had a lot of encouraging things to say re: Cho’s ability to put complicated deals together, download the hour 3 WaW podcast at 95.5 to hear his interview
Any discussion of playoff expectations left Cho similarly cautious. Asked if the Blazers had enough talent to be considered the Northwest Divison favorites, Cho refused to over-sell. “It’s hard to say. A lot of it – we’ll see what happens with the injuries. I hope we’re in the thick of things and I’m going to do everything I can to improve the roster and hopefully take another step.” He also said he had no championship-or-bust mandate from Allen. “It’s more make progress from where we’ve been. He didn’t set any timelines.”
Good to hear. There is and should be no rush
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
And if Motormouth becomes an assistant coach for Nate next year?
………………AWK – WARD!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
GP as an assistant coach?
Saw him sitting next to Nate the other night at the Summer League game.
How weird would that be?
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The last thing in the world I want is Gary Payton on a coaching staff.
Payton should stick with being an in-studio analyst, which suits him fine.
I sure hope so.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I was thinking the same thing
Gary was begging for a job and Nate was saying “I’ll get back to you on that” about 43 different ways
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Antonio Harvey said that he was in Seattle at the time of the Gary Payton/Ray Allen deal.
He said that Cho is the one who figured out how to make that deal happen. This was on the MSP this morning.
"Later, [...] Cho pointed to Matthews's particular strength shooting from the left corner." (Ben Golliver)
This flat-out verifies what I’ve said all along since the Wes Matthews signing, with that being how he’s strictly a 3 on offense in the high-low zone offense — while he could play the 2 on offense in the UCLA high-post offense — which basically means he’s nothing more than an overpriced replacement for Martell Webster.
The Matthews signing remains a bit of a mystery
I’d love to hear what Cho has to say about it behind closed doors. All in all, I doubt Matthews’ contract will be a big deal. It works out to basically a MLE contract. Upfront money aside (and PA is the only person who should really care about that) he’s not making much more than Webster. If he can really defend, and I haven’t watched him enough to have a good sense, it should work out.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
by dan_the_man on Jul 20, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Matthews might improve Martell is what he is
by southern oregon on Jul 20, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Many Seattle SuperSonics fans expected Damien Wilkins would improve after his rookie season, ...
which didn’t pan out whatsoever. I still don’t think that the Sonics should’ve matched the five-year offer sheet Wilkins was tendered by the Minnesota T’wolves as a RFA in the summer of 2005, but it wasn’t a killer mistake — such as handing out maximum-level contracts to non-stars like Allan Houston and Joe Johnson — yet, it was still a dumb decision nonetheless.
http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/wolves_sign_wilkins_offersheet_050818.html
I’m sure most folks in Portland are glad that the six-year offer sheet it tendered Trenton Hassell’s back in 2004 — which finally ended this past season, as Hassell toiled away in New Jersey — was matched by the T’wolves.
Not every player has to have a doppelganger.
I think comparisons at this point are lazy. Let’s at least wait until we’ve seen him play more than four games before we make judgements.
by Nick Van Excellent on Jul 20, 2010 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
True, I do overemphasize player comparisons.
That aside, though, I don’t like the idea of overpaying a guy who was an undrafted free-agent one year ago, as well as played in a different offensive system that masked his flaws.
Wonder if you will have changed your mind by the end of the season.
I do think that Matthews STRENGTHS may not be accessed in the Blazers non-offense of last year. Heard he is very good with offense that moves.
Cho appears to be OK with the Matthew's signing
He understand that it’s necessary to overpay RFA’s that the team has targeted
I especially like how Rich valued Wesley’s intangibles and work ethic, that’s well-rounded personnel analysis
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Matthews is way more effective off the dribble
So no, he’s not an overpriced replacement, he’s an upgrade over Martell both on offense and overall consistency on both ends.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
Cho likes sushi? What a wimp!
KP was a tough-guy burger-eater! OK, I made that up. OK, actually I like sushi myself. OK, I’m going to try to let go of the bad taste the whole Penn/KP fiasco left in my mouth.
Hmm: maybe some sushi would wash it away…
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.
if the sushi itself doesn't, just eat wasabi straight up
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
by Tofu Anonymous on Jul 20, 2010 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions
What did the Sushi Roll say to the Bumble Bee?
Wa-sap-Bee
Welcome to the Rich Cho era
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Jul 20, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Great coverage Ben!!
In Bayless I trust.
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Cho should not be considered a replacement
So often when a life partner dies, the living one tries to find a replacement that fits the lost partner’s traits. That is so unfair and unrealistic. KP is KP, Cho is Cho. I was in the boat one time as a replacement; I dropped out of the script playing replacement saying, “I can’t compete with a dead person, because a dead person doesn’t make mistakes”.
I feel the same way with trying to compare KP and Cho. KP is no longer a Blazer and in his memory by us all he made no mistakes.
I am going to value Cho for what he does not for “If he can fill KP’s shoes”
Welcome aboard Cho. You are taking over a great team and a great fan base
hg
by BBK on Jul 20, 2010 4:42 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
But would CP3 be considered a "replacement"
for Andre Miller?
Let’s hurry up and talk more about CP3. I wonder what CP3 is doing right now. I wonder how CP3 feels about the similarities between marriage and work. I bet CP3 would make a great point bride—err——point GUARD for the Blazers. Ahhhhhh,
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jul 20, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
The point being that no one else can fill someone Else's shoes.
The job is to do what you do not a extension of KP’s personality.
If CP3 came t Portland, it would not be a replacement, but as our new PG
I can be sarcastic too, but I can’t replace your sarcasm
hg
Hehe.
I gotcha!
My main caveat to your analogy is that one doesn’t have to be married but every team needs a GM to operate properly.
Rich Rolled
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jul 20, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure did.
I was thinking you were sore at me for being such a brat the other day.
You see, I really know very little about the game of BB. I a learning from all of you posters. And let me tell you just reading this blog is very confusing. Plus, I am a hell of a homer, to me watching the Blazers is great and is better when we win, but it isn’t necessary for me.
hg
BTW
I was posting the other day about PG being a dime a dozen, but I had to go to work before I had the chance to say, I was just joking around.
I love CP3, but not in the group that wants to give up our stars to get him.
On the sidebar a poster by the handle of Blazer Guy has a good point to determine.
hg
That's a great attitude
In general, I’ve found life to be so much more enjoyable when you focus on who people are, rather than who they are not. The expectations are so much more realistic that way.
However, at some gut level I find myself comparing the guy to Pritchard. When Ben wrote “Cho refused to over-sell” I got a big grin on my face because that’s one of the things that annoyed me about KP.
by Corvid on Jul 20, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not all of us think KP made no mistakes.
by Natsthecat on Jul 20, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is true
Reading some of the post her and on other blogs there are some that thinks of him as an imortal being that makes no mistakes. Just as there are some that thinks LJ does no wrong. I liked KP, but i didn’t idolize him. I like CP3, but don’t idolize him, (for you Hipster Olympic Team!) therefore I can see mastakes with both of them Or what I classify as a mistake anyway.
hg
KP is no longer a Blazer and in his memory by us all he made no mistakes.
I’d say KP made a few boo-boos during his tenure. (I mentioned the 2009 draft in another thread, yesterday) Here’s hoping that Cho can take a few of Kevin’s lemons and make some lemonade out of them
KP was no martyr, and Blazer fans should move past the legend that the media helped create and focus on the future
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What was wrong with the 2009 draft?
Is Claver terrible or something? Just asking; I don’t know, haven’t seen him play.
If Luke Babbitt and Jerryd Bayless played a game of table tennis I'm not sure who would win but the ping pong ball would lose no matter what. - Ben 7/16/2010
not terrible, just redundant
Ask yourself, after what’s happened with Sergio and Rudy, do you think that their fellow Spaniard would choose to come to Portland?
And assuming Batum, Cunningham and Babbitt are all keepers, there’s no clear role for Victor
But my main issue with the ‘09 draft is that KP had a deep roster coming off the 54 win season and then drafted 4 rookies. At some point on draft night you’ve got to combine a couple of those picks and move up, or trade at least one of them for “future considerations” A year later, only Dante looks like a long-term rotation member, Pendergraph is an end of the bench practice player. MIlls’ Blazer career is hanging by a thread, and Claver will likely remain in Europe unless he’s flipped to another NBA team
1 out of 4 isn’t a solid performance. Drafting all 4 was only a positive if you could turn around and combine a couple of them with other assets in a deal, later. I’m not sure if KP would’ve ever gotten around to doing that before it was too late, but I’m hopeful that Cho will
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This concerns me
“We kind of look at analytics as three pieces: one is player evaluation, the other is self-analysis and how are we doing as a team, and then third it’s the coaching and strategic aspect.”
What about opponent evaluation? I don’t know about others, but Cho’s lack of regard for what opponents are doing to build their teams and what teams are doing on the court, is rather disturbing. I hope Cho does not prevent Nate from at least scouting opponents for games.
Now, I know some fans will say that you build a dominate team and make the opponents adjust to you. That sounds good on paper, but the GM needs to know the weaknesses of the opponent so that his team can exploit those weaknesses and adjust to combat the opponents strengths.
I was certainly skeptical of Blazers going with the third choice on yet another off-season. And with this new information regarding Cho’s lack of concern with opponents has shaken me to my core.
Just cuz he doesn't say it in a 30 second answer, doesn't mean he doesn't do it...
…lol, he didn’t actually say “We do not feel the need to evaluate and compare ourselves to other teams!!”
idk, it seems a bit over dramatic to be concerned about things like this, lol, I know Cho was very professional and all, but this is the same day he is signing little kids shirts…
….I don’t think he felt the need to completely elaborate on every answer, in step by step detail, ect….
One thing I do hope though, is that he gives this team some time to “gel,” that he gives himself not only time to see how we look on the court together, when healthy, at the beginning of the season…
…but also time to see their work ethic, consistency, personality, ect.
Just seems a bit rash to make any big moves when you have the time to really know what your dealing with
One thing I do hope though, is that he gives this team some time to "gel," that he gives himself not only time to see how we look on the court together, when healthy, at the beginning of the season…
…but also time to see their work ethic, consistency, personality, ect.
Just seems a bit rash to make any big moves when you have the time to really know what your dealing with
That^ was answered by
Any discussion of playoff expectations left Cho similarly cautious. Asked if the Blazers had enough talent to be considered the Northwest Divison favorites, Cho refused to over-sell. “It’s hard to say. A lot of it – we’ll see what happens with the injuries. I hope we’re in the thick of things and I’m going to do everything I can to improve the roster and hopefully take another step.” He also said he had no championship-or-bust mandate from Allen. “It’s more make progress from where we’ve been. He didn’t set any timelines.”
This^
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Is it possible that “self-analysis and how we are doing as a team” includes how we are doing relative to other teams? Don’t hang on the words of an interview as if they were scriptural utterances to be studied and dissected.
by Rogue Blazer on Jul 20, 2010 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t hang on the words of an interview as if they were scriptural utterances to be studied and dissected.
Don’t you know that (while they’re still popular) Blazer GMs speak ex cathedra?
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Yes, Tom. You are "that one" here at BEdge.
You are the man with the twisted sense of humor and the daring to drive it into the ground. Where would we be without you? Watching reruns of SL games in our boxers and waiting numbly for the next season to begin…….
Cho for GM, Tom for Jester.
by upper left corner on Jul 20, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Your comment reminds me of what a cruel tease summer league is
Somehow, every season I feel like training camp is just around the corner after summer league. In fact, there’s this endless gulf of summer dog days between the two events. Baseball…arghh!!!
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.
When your core is shaken...
does it continue to jiggle, like Jello?
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
Via Abbott: He thinks the current Blazer roster is "a couple of pieces" away from a title, and he hopes to get those pieces.
I agree with this assessment. And Allen sounded in his interview like he wants to get to work on that with Cho in the next weeks.
Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. Did you hear Nate?
Nate talked about how we have never seen our roster at full strength. Trying to decide what moves to make when we haven’t really seen the team play is pretty difficult.
Note also, Cho didn’t specify what kind of pieces he was talking about. There is a huge difference between missing a couple of All-Stars and needing a couple of experienced veteran role players off the bench. I think Cho’s comment should probably be interpreted as the safe, generic answer that it was, rather than as a sign that he is ready to swing for the fences.
by upper left corner on Jul 20, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Paul seems ready to swing for the fences
you have to expect the fans will react to that impatience
I appreciated Cho’s “there’s no timeline” quote.
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Could happen
but if “the big deal” doesn’t happen right away I hope the fans and media don’t get antsy (like they did while the GM search was ongoing during the FA signing period?)
There is a time to evaluate, and there will be plenty of time to improve the roster. Right now there’s no hurry; in late July-August NBA GMs and execs are often taking their well-deserved vacations. I suspect Cho will be keeping tabs on the Blazer Euros who will be playing in Turkey
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Dumb question ...
… but I’ve only read his name:
Is it Cho, like “Cho, what’s up baby?”
or is it Cho, like “I’m running to catch a Cho-cho train.”
Choh or Chew?
facebook.com/year5000
Cho, what’s up baby?
Welcome to the Rich Cho era
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Jul 20, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
No, it would need to be spelled Chu
Welcome to the Rich Cho era
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Jul 20, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Cho man, whatsup wit chu?
Like the Whos down in Whoville they did it without boxes or ribbons or bows, they did without centers or posting down low. They won without All-Stars and Spaniards and Frenchmen. They won with old geezers and sub-par defense-men. They won playing rookies from deep off the benches. They won with their grit and their guts in the trenches. And some who observed them have been known to say that their hearts grew three sizes (at least!) on the way. One hopes with their poise and their passion now proven that once they are healthy their game will be groovin'. -- Dave
by conspirator5 on Jul 20, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
stop the presses
Other non-traditional things like shot charts and things like that.
I didn’t read another word after that sentence. I’m sold. I smell roster construction based on pieces of the puzzle.
Does Mathew’s get an offer if Cho is GM?
If his spreadsheet is anything like KP2’s, probably not.
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1187
Tracking shot charts doesn't really seem that non-traditional to me.
It just seems like something standard that all teams should do.
"Nicolas! You're the strongest boy in the world!"
That was my take
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.
But what does that even mean?
I know that he can’t just reveal all of his secrets, but saying that is methods are “non-traditional” and then giving an example of tracking shot charts is kind of a let down. I guess it just seems like a very vague statement and I’m wanting more specifics.
"Nicolas! You're the strongest boy in the world!"
Well, you could parse your basic shot chart in any number of ways...
Shots against opponents…
Shots at home vs. away (I’m sure there are HUGE splits here)…
Shot charts for one individual based on a mix of teammates…
Etc..
So of course he’s not going to say “we use shot charts broken down by player, offensive set, location, time of game, and then we have a 3-D model to show players where their opponents will likely be shooting from…”
the info is there, depending on how you organize and interpret
once the analysis is done – the ultimate question is how the information is used in roster construction. If Cho is using shot charts in a non-traditional manner, then he is using it for player evaluation – and if he is using it for player evaluation – he is using it for roster construction.
My take is that from a management perspective, shot charts tell you whether you have three of a kind or a Royal Flush – pieces complement each other in different ways.
by blacknoiseNW on Jul 20, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I think shot charts are more often used by coaching than the FO.
Like when scouting opponents for games. So in that sense, the Blazers would be looking at opponent shot charts during the season, and development coaches would look at our guys shot charts to enhance their game.
I doubt that a guy like Randy Pfund looks at shot charts when decides which FA to pursue and how much to offer them.
Like the Whos down in Whoville they did it without boxes or ribbons or bows, they did without centers or posting down low. They won without All-Stars and Spaniards and Frenchmen. They won with old geezers and sub-par defense-men. They won playing rookies from deep off the benches. They won with their grit and their guts in the trenches. And some who observed them have been known to say that their hearts grew three sizes (at least!) on the way. One hopes with their poise and their passion now proven that once they are healthy their game will be groovin'. -- Dave
by conspirator5 on Jul 20, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet they are...
At least by the Stat Forum gurus. I mean, one of our knocks is that personnel doesn’t fit system… So, if we’re buying into the coaches system, we should stockpile the best corner 3 guys in the league…
I sure hope we don’t do that, but… I would hope that you’d be able to combine the shot charts of all of the players on your team to see overlaps and weaknesses.. maybe next version…
Does Mathew’s get an offer if Cho is GM?
We’ll never know, but Rich is saying all the right things about the MLE decision. After all, he has to work with Larry and Nate, and be Mike and Chad’s boss for the forseeable future
I like Cho’s “Matthews shoots 52% from the left corner” comment. That shows he’s already plugged in re: the players in the NW division
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Show's he's smart enough...
to have a knowledgeable opinion ready about his newest employee…
Now, had he followed that up with “at home, but only 27% away, so our defensive strategy and even personnel on the court may vary based on location”, then I may have been impressed…
I think he’s got a full plate, and wish him the best of luck. He’ll need it.
the nice thing about Cho
is that even if he didn’t have that detailed info in his memory about Matthews (or any NBA player) he could probably pull it up in less than 5 sec, as long as his PC/PDA is booted up
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Old school scouts and executives would have killed for this technology.
Especially if they were having to scout college and all of the international leagues each year. Put the CBA into the mix and the game is WAY more complex on an executive level than it used to be.
As long as they start with watching a player and considering his personality and strengths, these guys should use any tools at their disposal to assess talent.
To me, Cho comes off as a very strong GM for the new NBA, although his skills would work in any era. A lot of fans seem to think trading for CP3 is like buying a used car and that’s just not how modern pro sports works (unless it’s the L*kers trading for Pau—ARRGH!).
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jul 20, 2010 8:29 AM PDT reply actions
yeah, just think Stu Inman drafted LaRue Martin
based on a few nice games LM played in a post-season tournament
(of course Stu wanted to take McAdoo, but Bob’s agents reneged on a handshake deal with Harry and Glickman wouldn’t deal with them, after that…)
we’ve come a long way, baby
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I wonder how much leeway Allen and Vulcan will give Cho? Hopefully they let him do his job and stay out of his way.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
I think he was hired because the Vulcans think he will be easy to push around
Now, had they hired a know commodity like Charles Barkley or Steve Kerr, both known for not taking crap from anyone, then I would feel more comfortable about the new GM.
Me, I like a guy who's not a media star.
Cho strikes me a someone who’s strong in a quiet way. Chicks dig that. Well, some chicks did that. Not all, but some.
That is my ? as well...why wasn't Sir Charles in the mix for the Blazer GM position?
Obviously the Vulcans don’t want the Blazers to win. That’s why.
Barkley doesn't need to take crap
He generates plenty of his own.
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.
by hurryup09 on Jul 20, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cho is the stong, silent type
if the Vulcans give him any trouble, he’ll just reprogram the hollodeck at the Academy so he defeats the unbeatable training simulation
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He's not THAT guy...
…He’s our guy…
I know everyone is going to analyze what the hiring of Rich Cho means. I know there will be tons of expectation and speculation as to what his hiring will result in.
Since I approach The Trail Blazers as a fan, all I can say is that I’m was suprised that we ended up hiring Rich Cho, but only because of the apparent direction it seemed we were heading given Larry Millers initial statements. I expected a Danny Ferry or Randy Pfund. But from what I hear about Cho? I’m not unhappy. If you are going with a first time head GM, sounds like Rich Cho was the best choice.
Beyond that? I just relax. However you felt about Kevin Pritchard and what we will generously call a transition from his era as Blazer GM to the arrival of Rich Cho, this is a good thing. It’s a clean slate, with a GM at the helm that evidently Larry Miller and Paul Allen both approve and like.
I wanted to move on, and now it finally tangibly feels like The Blazers are moving on. As far as my expectations of Cho? As usual, I think most fans are going to have unreachable goals. Among idiots I’ve already heard the drooling whispers of " Well now that we have a GM, lets clear a locker for Chris Paul….."
I don’t use graphs, charts or statistics to evaluate a GM, I simply watch the franchise and it’s overall growth or lack of growth during a GM’s tenure. Like everyone, if a deal is made, I evaluate the deal. But for now? I just welcome Cho, with an optimistic and reasonable hope that he becomes a decent or even great GM. I’ve heard nothing that makes me think this isn’t possible or even likely with Rich Cho.
Sometimes things “accidently” work out for the better. I don’t think anyone would define the transition from KP to RC as smooth or typical but I’m glad to be past it, and it certainly sounds like The Blazers made a competent choice in picking a succesor. I only hope the fans (ourselves) can afford Rich Cho a little breathing room. He seems a decent communicator, but it is obvious he’s not as good at it as Kevin Pritchard, who imo was an excellent public speaker. I just want to let Cho become our GM and not immediately start the sun through the magnifying glass analysis of everything that we hope could happen, not happening every moment. IMO, you can’t even judge a GM performance for at least a year. We should agree to ask “How’s Rich Doing?” in a years time…because it’s only then that we can even really start to get an idea of what yesterdays hire might mean to the franchise.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
New theory about KP
Something struck me while I was looking at the picture of Nate (bald), Cho (bald), and Miller (bald) on the picture of the Oregonian this morning. http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2010/07/new_general_manager_rich_cho_h.html
Paul Allen (bald) must have gotten rid of KP (not bald) because he was jealous of his hair.
by AverageJon on Jul 20, 2010 9:38 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Listened to Rich Cho give an interview this morning on the MSP.
He is a smart guy. Very smart. One of the things he will be looking into is PREVENTION of player injuries!!!!! Apparently the OKC trainers use some of the same alternative methods as the Suns trainers.
And hey…huge coincidence….OKC was almost injury free last season.
Of course OKC is a young team, and injuries don’t happen to young players. Just look at GO…he was well over the hill when he was first injured.
Or Batum…also a bit long in the tooth. And Roy, Fernandez, Travis…some guys just don’t know when to retire already!
So I am very very happy that Cho will be talking to the trainers.
Aside from all of the other reasons I like him….this one is at the top of my list.
A HEALTHY BLAZER ROSTER.
Great work Ben
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Yeah dude
Nice work
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by Alexander Calloway on Jul 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
how did people get invites to this?
i am a season ticket holder and didnt get any info
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It was to pick up the Aldridge talking bobble head. If you renewed by a certain point, then you'd get the
bobble head. And you got the “invite” to the BBQ.
ah, well there you go
i’m a new STH, not a re-newer. I figured that was why
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
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what?!?
seriously? i renewed really early and didnt get that.
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by Philthyanimal on Jul 20, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
It was an email.
Dad has been a STH for 32+ years, and we had to call in and ask about it yesterday morning. I have a friend who had asked and alerted us about the event.
And the Larry Miller hate-a-thon continues
Miller had every reason to smile, having landed arguably the assistant general manager most deserving of the bump to general manager, proving those who doubted his ability to land a “name” candidate. Although Miller initially talked up the team’s desire to add experience to its front office, beginning his search with two old hands — Danny Ferry and Randy Pfund — he wound up with an executive who is uniquely qualified for the position and situation.
I especially liked this part
proving those who doubted his ability to land a “name” candidate
Among the national press (aka aWoj) the line was that the Blazers as an entity would have a hard time landing a candidate who was not desperate for a GM’s job because those who were able to pick and choose would be unlikely to be willing to participate in the Vulcan shennanigans.
I believe it is a poor journalistic trick to make vague insinuations inspired by your own prior vague insinuations and present them as some sort of consensus which is, in reality, a fabrication on your part.
Furthermore, the statement builds it’s criticism on the foundation that landing a “name” candidate (whatever that means) is the measure of success, even while celebrating the actual hire in the same breath. Talk about having it both ways!
If Richard Cho is the best man for the job, then Larry Miller deserves credit for passing over “name” candidates and going with a good talent and a good fit. IMHO, it’s a dirty trick to basically say “You failed, but great hire BTW!”
With much love,
The Loyal Opposition
Like the Whos down in Whoville they did it without boxes or ribbons or bows, they did without centers or posting down low. They won without All-Stars and Spaniards and Frenchmen. They won with old geezers and sub-par defense-men. They won playing rookies from deep off the benches. They won with their grit and their guts in the trenches. And some who observed them have been known to say that their hearts grew three sizes (at least!) on the way. One hopes with their poise and their passion now proven that once they are healthy their game will be groovin'. -- Dave
What? Who is making the vague insinuations? And where is there criticism?
Seems to me the blocked areas are praise, not criticisms. Actually
proving those who doubted his ability to land a "name" candidate.doesn’t even make sense as a statement. Seems like it should be “disproving”….not proving.
You make a good point.
A very good point actually. If this is just a typo, then you’re right, and I read way too much into that. Or maybe not a typo, maybe a Freudian slip feedback into the bad feelings from a few weeks ago.
Either way if I misread that then shame on me! :-D I’m just so ready for the recriminations to be over… If we’re not there already, we’re really close.
Like the Whos down in Whoville they did it without boxes or ribbons or bows, they did without centers or posting down low. They won without All-Stars and Spaniards and Frenchmen. They won with old geezers and sub-par defense-men. They won playing rookies from deep off the benches. They won with their grit and their guts in the trenches. And some who observed them have been known to say that their hearts grew three sizes (at least!) on the way. One hopes with their poise and their passion now proven that once they are healthy their game will be groovin'. -- Dave
by conspirator5 on Jul 20, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
If you want a Bennigan (as in Ben shenanigan) with regards to Miller, recall this from yesterday:
In place of awkward glances between team employees, there were full-body hugs; in place of steely demeanors, there were handshakes; and in place of a smiling Larry Miller there was… well… a smiling Larry Miller.
by blacknoiseNW on Jul 20, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Obviously it would be pure speculation
but what are Cho’s thoughts on Greg Oden? Does Presti’s entourage believe that Durant was the far superior player coming out of college? Will Cho think little of G.O. and be active on the trade front concerning him?
The biggest concern I had about hiring a new GM is that they will come in with the mentality (that which nearly the entire league, outside of Portland, has) that Greg Oden is a huge bust and should be traded for any value possible. I really, really don’t want this to happen.
picture me rollin'
come on man
We are talking about a guy who has ten years of experience in a team front office, evaluating players. “The entire league, outside of Portland” that says Greg is a bust is the MEDIA members from around the league – NOT team-paid basketball operations people. My guess is that the vast majority of those types realize and understand that Greg is not a bust at all. Not to say they wouldn’t trade him in the right deal, but these people are paid to know the players around the league – and Cho is one of the best in that regard. Believe me, he knows Greg’s advanced stats as well as almost anyone – he isn’t going to give him away.
Your fears are unfounded. The mentality you speak of is media-fueled to support a narrative built up by need to have instant results and success and “grade” everything ASAP. It isn’t the way front office people work though.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Cho was asked about the '07 draft today
He was non-committal re: which player he would’ve selected if he was in KP’s shoes (there’s obviously no good answer for this, for a guy in Rich’s shoes who knew Durant and is now Greg’s boss)
But when he was asked if he followed conventional wisdom (e.g. “everybody else thought that taking the dominant center was the best choice”) Cho said that he doesn’t always follow the crowd
So take that for what it’s worth. I doubt we’ll see any Oden for Durant trade proposals in the next few years, even if Greg suddenly realizes his enormous potential
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Ironically, LeCon and company may be the true test of the 07 draft
The idea of Durant matching up against LeCon in a final is, well – comical. The idea of the Heat matching up with Oden in the final, is well – very interesting.
I’d give a team built around a dominant center a much better chance of taking the Heat down than I would a team built around a SF – however skilled the SF may be.
by blacknoiseNW on Jul 20, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep, big front line with lots of depth
You’ll need it against the L*kers, and it will pose matchup problems for the Heat
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I'm sure Rich Cho will do fine
but as a total ping pong freak, I want to stand across the table from him and show him how it’s really done.
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