Summer League Blazers Buzz
Some quick tidbits from Las Vegas with more to come after today's slate and tonight's Blazers game.
- Blazers President Larry Miller spent yesterday in lengthy NBA Board of Governors meetings and wasn't seen by anyone attending Summer League, as had been expected. His GM hiring process continues today with Rich Cho, according to John Hollinger. [Update (1:12PM): Yesterday, 95.5FM reported that Cho would be interviewed and the station is reporting that the interview is taking place right now.]
- In Miller's absence, in a stark contract you couldn't script any better, former Blazers GM Kevin Pritchard made the rounds of media row, doling out handshakes and asking for assessments of Portland's rookies. There's been some talk that Pritchard will catch on with an NBA broadcast partner if he does follow through on his plan to take a year off. "You'll see me around," Pritchard said, as coy as always. The world needs more KP, not less, so that's good. The Pritchard to the Knicks rumor was discounted by a number of media folks yesterday.
- Portland's Former vice president of basketball operations and current ESPN capologist Tom Penn was also in the building. It really is a bizarre scene, given that Public Enemy #1 for Portland's management hierarchy, Warren LeGarie, runs the Summer League and is a constant center of everyone's attention. Not to mention, the league is enjoying explosive popularity this year, with the gym sold out both Sunday and Monday night to catch the John Wall show. Given the animosity towards LeGarie felt by many within the organization, I imagine this is a little bit like attending an amazing barbecue at your ex-wife's new husband's mansion.
- Head of NBA Scouting Mike Born spent nearly the entire afternoon and evening on the telephone while watching the action in Cox Pavilion. For awhile he was sitting side-by-side with Kiki Vandeweghe, whose name came up with regard to Portland's GM position, although the talk around his candidacy has cooled to the point where it's virtually non-existent.
- Head of College Scouting Chad Buchanan wasn't in Cox Pavilion today that I saw. The Blazers coaching staff -- including Kaleb Canales and Bill Bayno -- did watch Washington play the Clippers last night. The Blazers play LA on Thursday.
- Regarding Portland's GM job, most of the national media I talked to were really pessimistic about the job's attractiveness, saying it would take a big time offer to land a name candidate. We've definitely heard that before but I think the narrative against the job has shifted a little bit. Although there are still questions about how the Pritchard drama unfolded and the egos involved, most seem to have moved past that. The questions are crystallizing around the organization's commitment to its management structure, which appears to require that big basketball operations decisions are communicated to Owner Paul Allen through Miller.
- That type of structure and oversight isn't unprecedented around the league. But Miller set himself up for all sorts of second-guessing with the timing and size of his offer to Wesley Matthews; he played the team's biggest free agency chip prior to putting a new executive in place, just weeks after saying adamantly to anyone that would listen that he has no desire to be the head of Portland's basketball operations. And he did it in a questionable manner. (Various media members trashed the offer as "exorbitant" and "regrettable." The consensus was running about 4-1 against Utah matching Matthews before the Jazz made their play for Al Jefferson. After that news broke last night, it went even higher than that, quickly.)
- The current situation for Miller probably looks worse than it is. The timing appears to be motivated in part by a rash of free agent signings of backcourt players that Portland had targeted. Jordan Farmar, Anthony Morrow, Raymond Felton and Kyle Korver all were on Portland's free agent target list, and all signed elsewhere over the weekend. Later, Luke Ridnour, who Nate McMillan has long admired, was taken off the board thanks to another insane offer from David Kahn. Plus, Raja Bell, who Portland also had interest in, seems headed to a sure-fire title contender. The outsized offer to Matthews wasn't just a product of an inflated market but also a big, quick run on Portland's supply.
- Basketball Prospectus's Kevin Pelton's SCHOENE projection system is really down on Matthews. "Matthews does remind me of a caution I once offered about Damien Wilkins in Seattle," Pelton notes. "When an undrafted free agent plays well as a rookie, it's often less a sign that he's truly a great player and more a reminder that talent is out there to find. I can see Utah or some other team giving Matthews too long a contract and regretting it after finding out he's not substantially better than replacement level.
- There are some interesting numbers to look at in this comparative analysis of Matthews, Martell Webster and Rudy Fernandez by Nathan Begley at Portland Roundball Society. Utah's incredible offensive system, Matthews shifting roles throughout the year and small sample size make numerical comparisons difficult.
- The gym was buzzing pretty hard yesterday with talk that Bernie Bickerstaff and Bob Ociepka, two long-time NBA assistants who have been linked previously with Portland, will be joining McMillan' s coaching staff. This line from Ociepka's wikipedia is interesting: "He, along with Bickerstaff and Harris, were hired to establish a veteran presence on the coaching staff and help rookie head coach Vinny Del Negro." Who else just pictured someone in a dark suit in the 206 googling "veteran presence + coaching staff" and then trying to purchase the first names that came up?
- Dean Demopolous got a job. Didn't see or hear anything about Joe Prunty yesterday. [Update (3:18PM): Prunty was taking in the action from a courtside seat this afternoon and is a part of Cleveland's Summer League staff.]
- Juwan Howard: bienvenidos a Miami. He was assumed gone.
- If you're sick of the off-court buzz, full game coverage starts tonight. Can't wait.
- Hornets guards Darren Collison and Marcus Thornton will not play against the Blazers due to minor injuries. Monty Williams doesn't sound super thrilled about that.
-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
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I think the most difficult number comparison to make
is the contract. If this was a 4 million a year offer, we’d all be much happier.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
and so would Utah
I think they would have matched that in a heartbeat.
In fact, it sounds like they were expecting Matthews to get an offer of around 5 years, $25 million, and were thinking they would most likely match it. Now they have to think long and hard. That extra $9 million isn’t necessarily a deal breaker for PA, but could be the difference for the Jazz.
by Rodney Gustafson on Jul 13, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
obviously busy
if Bickerstaff and Ociepa’s specialties are to help bring along a young coach, what would their roles be when it comes to a veteran coach?
~ Kassandra
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
Hey y'all I see that you're new here. How you doin'? Maybe you should check out the JD (Junk Drawer).
It’s where a lot of the veteran members of Blazers Edge go to discuss basketball and other things. You could learn a lotttt there …
"What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. May God have mercy on your soul."
by L-TrainFTW! on Jul 13, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
you forgot a link
Kevin Love broke the rim in my high school gym, but he still rocks my dirty socks…..and he is a total fox.
The only person I love more than LeBron James is portlandgiirl91
by Dirty Socks on Jul 13, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't think that Kass is smart enough to find the JD (it's in the fanposts to the right of this comment ... look for today's date)?
I can’t believe you DS. You are a horrible person.
"What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. May God have mercy on your soul."
by L-TrainFTW! on Jul 13, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LTFTW, I think you need to get OUT of the Junk Drawer.
You seem a bit…. ah… lon… um, distracted. Yes, that’s it. Distracted.
Like the Whos down in Whoville they did it without boxes or ribbons or bows, they did without centers or posting down low. They won without All-Stars and Spaniards and Frenchmen. They won with old geezers and sub-par defense-men. They won playing rookies from deep off the benches. They won with their grit and their guts in the trenches. And some who observed them have been known to say that their hearts grew three sizes (at least!) on the way. One hopes with their poise and their passion now proven that once they are healthy their game will be groovin'.
by conspirator5 on Jul 13, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you hitting on me?
"What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. May God have mercy on your soul."
Not that I'm against that ...
"What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. May God have mercy on your soul."
ROFL
Um no, I was suggesting you were the hit-ER, not the hit-ee. I’m spoken for. Though I suppose the missus might rent me out for manual labor or PC repair.
Like the Whos down in Whoville they did it without boxes or ribbons or bows, they did without centers or posting down low. They won without All-Stars and Spaniards and Frenchmen. They won with old geezers and sub-par defense-men. They won playing rookies from deep off the benches. They won with their grit and their guts in the trenches. And some who observed them have been known to say that their hearts grew three sizes (at least!) on the way. One hopes with their poise and their passion now proven that once they are healthy their game will be groovin'.
by conspirator5 on Jul 13, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Your sig rocks.
"I don’t give a ZACH about no trade rumors. As long as somebody ‘CTC’ at the end of the day, I’m with them. For all you that don’t know what CTC means, that’s ‘Cut the Check. I just go out there and play. Again, somebody just ’CTC'." -Sheed
That's one compliment too many.
Now updated with proper attribution. Dave, poet laureate of gushing Blazers fandom deserves all the credit.
Like the Whos down in Whoville they did it without boxes or ribbons or bows, they did without centers or posting down low. They won without All-Stars and Spaniards and Frenchmen. They won with old geezers and sub-par defense-men. They won playing rookies from deep off the benches. They won with their grit and their guts in the trenches. And some who observed them have been known to say that their hearts grew three sizes (at least!) on the way. One hopes with their poise and their passion now proven that once they are healthy their game will be groovin'. -- Dave
by conspirator5 on Jul 13, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Dave goes good stuff.
"I don’t give a ZACH about no trade rumors. As long as somebody ‘CTC’ at the end of the day, I’m with them. For all you that don’t know what CTC means, that’s ‘Cut the Check. I just go out there and play. Again, somebody just ’CTC'." -Sheed
i would laugh ...
if that weren’t so pathetically lame. alas, however, i am not the one who needs to learn. sorry kiddo.
~ Kassandra
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
by Kassandra on Jul 13, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 13 recs
oh shooooot
Kevin Love broke the rim in my high school gym, but he still rocks my dirty socks…..and he is a total fox.
The only person I love more than LeBron James is portlandgiirl91
hahaha
Kevin Love broke the rim in my high school gym, but he still rocks my dirty socks…..and he is a total fox.
The only person I love more than LeBron James is portlandgiirl91
Wow!
You’re Gorgeous!!!! What more could a guy as for a fox that loves Blazer basketball!!!
by Casey M on Jul 13, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, I'm a nice boy.
Why doesn’t anyone flirt with me anymore? I like the Blazers and I’m single also.
I’ll be waiting at MortimerfromBlazersEdge@gmail.com!
Mortimer
#52
by Mortimer on Jul 13, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
homo agnitio agnitius
Logical descriptions of complex worlds contain within themselves the seeds of their own limitation. A world that was simple enough to be fully known would be too simple to contain conscious observers who might know it.
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Jul 13, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
lol thanks
got a dad and 4 brothers who taught me the love of the game!
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
let me interpret in the form of apparel

"..cocaine is a classy drug meant for men of finer tastes like Sr. Rudolfo Fernandez."
-AK1984
mentor her
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jul 13, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
mentor whom?
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
If I were you.
I just wouldn’t encourage them. It won’t lead to anything relevant.
"I don’t give a ZACH about no trade rumors. As long as somebody ‘CTC’ at the end of the day, I’m with them. For all you that don’t know what CTC means, that’s ‘Cut the Check. I just go out there and play. Again, somebody just ’CTC'." -Sheed
perhaps ...
but i would like to know if it is i to which they are referring.
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
They were referring to you.
I’d stake money on it.
"I don’t give a ZACH about no trade rumors. As long as somebody ‘CTC’ at the end of the day, I’m with them. For all you that don’t know what CTC means, that’s ‘Cut the Check. I just go out there and play. Again, somebody just ’CTC'." -Sheed
aww
i don’t want to encourage them, though it is quite flattering!
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
stanford
i start my freshman year there in september.
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
congrats, that’s awesome. When I applied there for undergrad I didn’t get in, and since then its only gotten tougher to get accepted, so I’m impressed.
Its a good place, you’ll love it, and there can never be too many Blazer fans here :)
i’m looking forward to it, but i won’t be able to watch many blazers games. :(
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
People can point you in the right direction to watch them online
Even though it’s against the rule. Folks find a way.
really?
i know you can buy broadband packages, but is there another way?
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
There is both broadband and cable NBA TV packages.
Besides that you are stuck with finding friends or sports “bars” who have those packages.
well
i need another three years before i can find a sports bar to watch games at.
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
Well you might be able to find a hybrid place.
The equiv of like Buffalo Wild Wings or something that’s half sports bar half restaurant bar. I always thought it was unfair to the younger set that most good places to watch sports in public end up being at bars.
Somewhat true for music as well.
its easy to find a place to watch the national tv games— the ones on ESPN, TNT, etc. and the ones against the Warriors are on the local Comcast channel.
as far as watching ALL the Blazer games go, I got by on sketchy internet feeds for a couple years, then finally took the plunge and bought League Pass Broadband last year.
lol
Kevin Love broke the rim in my high school gym, but he still rocks my dirty socks…..and he is a total fox.
The only person I love more than LeBron James is portlandgiirl91
dont think we're supposed to put pics in main page posts
but w/e
Kevin Love broke the rim in my high school gym, but he still rocks my dirty socks…..and he is a total fox.
The only person I love more than LeBron James is portlandgiirl91
gamethreads, no
but otherwise? I need a gamethread
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jul 13, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
itll be up at 6
junk with us
Kevin Love broke the rim in my high school gym, but he still rocks my dirty socks…..and he is a total fox.
The only person I love more than LeBron James is portlandgiirl91
brother, I junk'ed all day
more than I have in a year. But I’m now on an E-Machine laptop circa 2003, and that Junk Drawer will dance all over the screen until every…thing……slooooows…….dooowwwwnnnn. and goes blue
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jul 13, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe
if i can get the hang of things here.
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
just press Z a lot
itll move you between all the unread comments and mark them as read as you move through
if you press shift+A it will mark everything as read
really easy and useful once you get used to it
Kevin Love broke the rim in my high school gym, but he still rocks my dirty socks…..and he is a total fox.
The only person I love more than LeBron James is portlandgiirl91
like if you ever go in the junk drawer
it’d probably be best to press shift+a right away so you arent spending hours reading a bunch of old stuff. then just use Z for the new stuff.
Kevin Love broke the rim in my high school gym, but he still rocks my dirty socks…..and he is a total fox.
The only person I love more than LeBron James is portlandgiirl91
but ...
that’s still confusing.
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
yeah i know
it took me awhile to get used to it
Kevin Love broke the rim in my high school gym, but he still rocks my dirty socks…..and he is a total fox.
The only person I love more than LeBron James is portlandgiirl91
you handled that well...
considering you just did the equivalent of walking into a Star Trek convention in green body paint
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jul 13, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
lol
i can’t be the only girl who likes the blazers! come on guys! lol
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
hmm ...
sounds like my kind of odds! lol J/K!!!
we have the right to disagree with each other; when you personally attack me with that disagreement is when you cross that line.
by Kassandra on Jul 19, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hilarious.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jul 13, 2010 6:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This is how I see the Matthews numbers breaking down...
If the contract is for 34 mil and he gets 9 mil the first year, that leaves 25 mil left. Which means about 6 mil for the next 4 years (Rough numbers). So then is 6 mil still too much?
Here are a few options
If the contract is for the full MLE with no signing bonus:
$5,765,000
$6,226,200
$6,687,400
$7,148,600
$7,609,800
TOTAL – $33,437,000
If the contract pays him $9.2 million in the first year including trade bonus, the cap hit would be something like:
$4,906,936 + $858,064 bonus = $5,765,000
$5,299,491 + $858,064 bonus = $6,157,555
$5,692,046 + $858,064 bonus = $6,550,110
$6,084,601 + $858,064 bonus = $6,942,665
$6,477,155 + $858,064 bonus = $7,335,219
TOTAL – $32,750,549
If he gets the maximum bonus possible, the cap hit looks like this:
$4,646,581 + $1,138,419 bonus = $5,765,000
$4,996,707 + $1,138,419 bonus = $6,135,126
$5,366,834 + $1,138,419 bonus = $6,505,253
$5,736,960 + $1,138,419 bonus = $6,875,379
$6,107.088 + $1,138,419 bonus = $7,245,507
TOTAL – $32,526,265
Additionally, Matthews might have a clause in his contract that pays him up to 70% of his yearly base contract amount at the beginning of the season with the remaining 30% paid in 12 installments over the course of the season. For example, using the last set of numbers, Matthews could be paid an ‘upfront’ amount of $8,930,703 (signing bonus + 70% of his first year salary). Personally, I think this is the offer he was given by the Blazers as it would be the one that Utah would probably be least likely to match….
Given the animosity towards LeGarie felt by many within the organization, I imagine this is a little bit like attending an amazing barbecue at your ex-wife’s new husband’s mansion.
HA! Perfect. I wonder how long it will be before PA&Co hire another one of LeGarie’s clients?
Stealth > Wealth
I think I heard that David Griffin is managed by WLG
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Yesterdaymorning , Quick said DG was going to be interviewed by Portland
but probably not until after they’re done with Cho
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Who else just pictured someone in a dark suit in the 206 googling “veteran presence + coaching staff” and then trying to purchase the first names that came up?
DON’T SAY GOOGLE. SAY BING. – The Big Boss
GOP in HD
KP also used a Mac (on one of the photos from his house)
Asking for the new iPhone on top of that was too much for Paul
the most upsetting point was...
“Juwan Howard: bienvenidos a Miami. He was assumed gone.”
I had hoped they’d keep the wise old guy around and then move him into the front office upon his retirement. He was great for the ‘Zers last season, if not for numbers, for imparting his work ethic and enthusiasm to the young guys! Hey, his numbers weren’t bad either!
Juwan, go get your ring and then come back to lend a hand in P-town!!
once we extended Camby, Juwan was gone
just don’t have the roster spots.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Only piece of welcomed news coming outta Miami this week
Go get your ring, then come back and coach for the Blazers, Juwon.
Keep Portland Weird.
anyone who uses "‘Zers"
vacates their right to sympathy (or even empathy)
by blacknoiseNW on Jul 13, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Fare thee well...
…old man river. Hope to see you in a couple of years as management / coaching for the Trailblazers.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
color commentating works too
"I don’t give a ZACH about no trade rumors. As long as somebody ‘CTC’ at the end of the day, I’m with them. For all you that don’t know what CTC means, that’s ‘Cut the Check. I just go out there and play. Again, somebody just ’CTC'." -Sheed
Can someone please explain the "LeGarie runs the Summer League" thing to me?
How can he both be in charge of a part of NBA operations and represent GMs and coaches as an agent? Isn’t that a conflict of interest?
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
Ben I know you don't like Larry Miller but man, I really don't like him either.
he played the team’s biggest free agency chip prior to putting a new executive in place, just weeks after saying adamantly to anyone that would listen that he has no desire to be the head of Portland’s basketball operations.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
Hate this:
big basketball operations decisions are communicated to Owner Paul Allen through Miller.
I mean, Larry Miller has always seemed really snake-like and I will openly vilify him by saying that, I wouldn’t be surprised if he skewed information going to PA. Dude just rubs me the wrong way.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
I can see him following this if....
they had a GM in place. As we have seen a lot of people are getting bought up by teams. I say we will have a GM by the end of the week, and move forward from there. But I actually have to commend the front office for making this move. They have acted on a player that they have obviously been interested in. And I have to say I have been interested in him too.
The way I see it, is people are going to complain either way about getting active now. People are complaining that they don’t know what they are doing ( I personally think they do), that they shouldn’t make a move until we have a GM. But if they didnt make a move now they would miss out on the dynamic players. And then people would be complaining that they didn’t move fast enough. And that they should have started working before they had a certain GM in place.
I do love this though
former Blazers GM Kevin Pritchard made the rounds of media row, doling out handshakes and asking for assessments of Portland’s rookies.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
my friends call me the sleeping prophet because i like to sleep alot
i predict that if ibekwe comes out tonite anthing like the last game things are going to go Crazy on BE!
i for one am going to go boba fett
http://www.comicsninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/boba_fett_21.jpg
The Fett!
Costume design was insane for the trilogy! INSANE!
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
very advanced blaster proof package protector in the pict
this future technology might someday protect our guys from dirty players like Chris Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsUPFtXsM0Q&feature=PlayList&p=8052676870DF11D5&playnext_from=PL&index=17&playnext=2
by Captain fruit on Jul 13, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
IMHO Bert Kolde is the Vulcan problem child, not Warren LeGarie
Bert Kolde is the guy who would be a Seattle cab driver if his childhood best friend wasn’t a billionaire, not LeGarie.
Keep Portland Weird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F3tptzEWmM&feature=PlayList&p=8052676870DF11D5&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=16
whoops
That was hilarious.
Dirty but hilarious. No doubt dirty.
:D
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
I was really wondering who was calling the shots
on the Matthews offer. That wasn’t a simple GM decision; it was a poker move, with some fairly serious future implications.
I do think they accomplished a couple things with the offer, though. With so much up front ($9mil), it makes it tougher for Utah to match, but also makes the contract a lot more tradeable in the coming years if it doesn’t work out.
At any rate, a surprising move without a sitting GM in place. I guess they didn’t really have the option of waiting.
also makes the contract a lot more tradeable in the coming years if it doesn’t work out.
No doubt. After this season (Joel/Andre) the Blazers didn’t have a mid-level contract on their payroll to use in a future deal (unless they picked up Miller’s option) If Utah decides not to match Matthews offer, the Blazers will have a 6-7 mil/year contract for a young NBA player who could potentially be a starting SG, again
Considering how thin the team is at the backup 2-3 in case of injury to Roy/Batum, I’m not finding a lot to complain about re: the Matthews contract
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
How long before the unsubstantiated insinuations die off?
Who else just pictured someone in a dark suit in the 206 googling “veteran presence + coaching staff” and then trying to purchase the first names that came up?
Not I.
I’m on board for missing KP, on board with how badly this whole thing was handled. On board with thinking that Bert Kolde is some kind of creepy corprorate vampire. I think it’s understood that it was not Nate’s decision to let Dean and Joe go. Although there’s no reporting to support the assertion, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if the FO gave some suggestions to Nate about the kinds of coaches they think would be appropriate as a replacement.
However, if you want to tell me that Vulcan is micromanaging the asst. coach hiring process, then give me a bone I can chew on. I don’t even have the luxury of arguing about the credibility of “unnamed sources.” No sources. Just watching BE’s own credibility getting spent on derogatory speculation. I guess it’s supposed to be funny?
Like the Whos down in Whoville they did it without boxes or ribbons or bows, they did without centers or posting down low. They won without All-Stars and Spaniards and Frenchmen. They won with old geezers and sub-par defense-men. They won playing rookies from deep off the benches. They won with their grit and their guts in the trenches. And some who observed them have been known to say that their hearts grew three sizes (at least!) on the way. One hopes with their poise and their passion now proven that once they are healthy their game will be groovin'.
I like the Matthews signing
It’s a lot of money, but wing guys who can shoot and defend well are valuable, even if they are role players that do nothing else. There are others with those skills usually available, but this one is athletic and young and fills an immediate need. As long as he doesn’t pull a James Posey and fade out after getting paid, it looks like a good deal to me.
by sanjait on Jul 13, 2010 1:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
even if they are role players that do nothing else.
That’s another thing, if you acquire a player who you hope will be a backup but he has the skills and mindset of a star, odds are he’s going to not be happy playing a “limited” role. (Looking at you, Rudy…) From all that I’ve heard about Wes, he’s never been the entitled can’t-miss prospect, even though his dad played in the NBA. Matthews has had to work for everything he’s gotten, so even though his game is less-complete than others, he will fill a specific role and not complain about being underutilized. This is a very underrated quality and every championship team needs role players who have this quiet but intense, underdog mentality
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
totally agree
and it’s sort of been a trait of Portland’s since the Whitsett years to stockpile the best talent available all the way down the bench. It’s nice to be able to say that you have guys on your bench who would start for other teams, but the problem is they think that too!
I know aspiring to greatness, and “swag” are important qualities for an NBA player, but it’s a rare, valuable player who knows their role and plays it really well.
If KP lands with the "Thunder"...
Will Ben switch allegiance? I’m gonna go out on a limb and say yes.
Jordan Farmar, Anthony Morrow, Raymond Felton and Kyle Korver all were on Portland’s free agent target list, and all signed elsewhere over the weekend. Later, Luke Ridnour, who Nate McMillan has long admired, was taken off the board thanks to another insane offer from David Kahn. Plus, Raja Bell, who Portland also had interest in…
Besides Farmar, it’s good to know that Portland was interested on the players listed here. We’ve been talking about the team needing a backup 2-3 for months and apparently they didn’t feel that they could wait around for the GM to be hired before making someone an offer. Wes Matthews could wind up as “the next Damien Wilkins” or not, but the Blazers front office made a decision to flip Martell on draft day and the coaching staff simply couldn’t afford to start the season with Babbitt and Cunningham as the backup SFs to Batum
So they chose Matthews over Roger Mason Jr and overpaid to make sure they got Wes. You can do that, when Paul Allen is your owner
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Exactly.
The only person to whom it makes a difference whether we’re paying Wes $4 a year or $7 a year is Paul Allen. The only other effect of raising his salary is to make it more likely we get him.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
i think it really opens the door
for Rudy and maybe even Bayless to be moved as well…it will be really interesting to see the final result of this roster consolidation and who the 8 or 9 guys left at the end of the process are. I think we can pencil in
Roy
Batum
Aldridge
Oden
Matthews (assuming Utah doesn’t match)
Cunningham
and
Camby (for the near future)
+Rookie(s)/Patty Mills/Pendo
With the roster as it stands right now I feel like Andre, Bayless, Rudy, and Joel all are potential candidates to be moved/packaged for another upper tier piece (presumably a starting PG if Andre is involved)
That's what everyone on 95.5 seems to think, too
But at this point the only player who “needs” to be moved is Rudy
I keep hearing Jaynes and Vance raving about Patty Mills and say things like “we’ve already established that Bayless is not a PG” and I think to myself—really, who’s we?
Who was the backup PG after Blake was traded? How did the team do during the second half of the season? (pretty darn well, they finished 6th in the WC despite all the injuries) If the bench didn’t perform up to snuff it wasn’t exactly Jerryd’s fault, Webster and Fernandez were brutal and Juwan Howard was no world-beater as an offensive threat, either.
I don’t think that the Blazer’s coaching staff has written Rex off as a backup PG, yet. Much depends on who the new GM is what he thinks about Bayless’ game, and then it remains to be seen if Portland makes a consolidation deal and brings in a young star PG or not. I don’t think they “need” to, but if a screaming deal falls into their lap, then by all means pull the trigger. But if the depth chart heading into the season is
Miller/Bayless/#3 vet PG
Roy/Matthews/Williams
Batum/Matthews/Babbitt/Cunningham
LMA/Camby/Pendy and Ferno
Oden/Camby/Przy(later)
that’s a pretty deep and potent roster (especially up front) if they can all stay healthy
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
by two4larue on Jul 13, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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Although based on the scouts’ enthusiasm, we’ll probably end up with the Hammer as our 3rd pg.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
yes, but
it might be to Armon’s advantage if he spends some time playing for Idaho this season, and if Miller finally gets seriously hurt this year, you really don’t want Bayless as the starting PG with a rookie as his backup
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Summer League Stuff
Rodrigue Beaubois showed flashes of brilliance for the Dallas Mavericks last year.
He burst onto the scene March 27 with a 40-point effort against Golden State, a game in which he seemingly couldn’t miss, making 15-of-22 shots. He also scored 16 points in a playoff game against San Antonio.
The 6-foot-2 guard was back to his dominating ways Monday in the NBA Summer League.
His short jumper with .07 seconds to play in overtime lifted the Mavericks past the Milwaukee Bucks, 73-72, and capped a frantic end to a game that included three lead changes in the final 30 seconds.
Beaubois, who averaged 7.1 points and 12 minutes per game during his rookie campaign last year, gave the Mavs a 71-69 advantage with 28 seconds left when he buried a 3-pointer at the shot-clock buzzer.
But Milwaukee’s Deron Washington answered with a 3-pointer to give the Bucks a 72-71 lead with 5.9 seconds to play, setting up the Beaubois game-winner.
It wasn’t the first time Beaubois, who finished with 15 points in 29 minutes, changed the course of the game.
With Dallas trailing by a point with .03 seconds to play in regulation and Beaubois in-bounding the ball, he lobbed a pass to an elevating J.R. Giddens near the rim.
Giddens, with only time for a quick catch and release, soared to grab the ball and banked in a shot at the buzzer to force overtime.
“Giddens can get up,” Beaubois said. “I had confidence the play would work and that he would come down with the pass.”
For Beaubois, the pass to Giddens could be considered more important than the game-winning shot.
Beaubois, who primarily played shooting guard last year, is transitioning to point guard this summer. The Mavs’ blueprint is to have him split time between the two guard spots next year in slowly transitioning to full-time point guard.
Fittingly, he finished with a game-high seven assists.
“I know what it takes to be a good point guard — pass the ball, get others involved and don’t take bad shots,” said Beaubois, who had 28 points on 12-of-20 shooting and four assists Saturday in an 87-78 loss to the Houston Rockets.
“I know it is going to be a challenge. The coaches are pushing me and I’m pushing myself.”
Beaubois will have plenty of opportunities to work on distributing the ball the rest of the summer. The Mavericks have two games left in Las Vegas before Beaubois heads to Turkey in late August to play for France at the FIBA World Championships. He expects to start, with Tony Parker of the San Antonio Spurs not playing because of injuries.
Part of the maturation process will include the soft-spoken Beaubois becoming more of a vocal leader. Leading by example is one thing, but a point guard typically must be able to direct traffic on the floor through communication.
“I look at every game as an opportunity to get better,” he said. “It’s a different experience (at point guard), but at the same time, it is still basketball.”
Giddens led Dallas with 16 points on 7-of-11 shooting, and Omar Samhan had nine points and nine rebounds.
Cousins has double-double to lift Kings
DeMarcus Cousins, the fifth-overall pick in last month’s draft, had 14 points and 10 rebounds in his professional debut, leading the Sacramento Kings to a 97-68 win against the Detroit Pistons.
Cousins, one of five Kentucky players selected in the first round, connected on 5-of-11 shots in helping the Kings build a 48-31 advantage by halftime. He played 26 minutes.
Omri Casspi led the Kings with 16 points.
Top pick Wall has eight turnovers… again
John Wall had eight turnovers for the second straight day, but that didn’t stop the Washington Wizards’ 19-year-old point guard from putting on another show at the Cox Pavilion.
Wall, the first pick in last month’s draft, had a double-double of 18 points and 10 assists in the Wizards’ 89-64 victory against the Los Angeles Clippers. Wall’s electrifying pace up and down the court gave fans plenty to cheer about.
Wall had 24 points, eight assists and eight turnovers in his debut Sunday, a five-point win against Golden State.
Suns rally against D-League all-stars
The Phoenix Suns used a 21-4 run in the second half to overcome a double-digit deficit against the D-League all-stars in a 96-88 victory.
Scottie Reynolds, the first-team All-American from Villanova who went undrafted, had 17 points for the Suns (1-2). Earl Clark had a team-high 18 points.
Lakers, Timberwolves struggle to score
The New York Knicks limited the Los Angeles Lakers to eight points in the second quarter in a 71-63 victory.
Landry Fields had 17 points for the Knicks, while Derrick Caracter had 16 points and 10 rebounds for Los Angeles.
Minnesota also struggled to score Monday in its 85-61 loss to San Antonio. Alonzo Gee had 12 points and eight rebounds for the Spurs.
By Ray Brewer, http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jul/13/dallas-mavericks-guard-rodrigue-beaubois-shining-n/
Silent Swagger.
GO BLAZERS
i need a game thread
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jul 13, 2010 5:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
You know, I've been noticing more "poison" restricted FA offer sheets lately. Can't help but think we're the ones who started the trend.
Does anyone else think that we could fall victim to this same strategy soon with Greg Oden?
Worries me a bit.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
Hopefully, he'll get extended
We just gotta wait for the new GM and the Chris Paul trade to go through :)
Yeah.
I’m also hoping he get’s extended during the season. Just would hate to lose him that way.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
Greg would have to be extended before the end of October
I think the front office will take a look at how Oden’s playing in preseason and make him an offer, then hopefully he’ll accept it
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
The 'poison' part of the offer is just the up front cash
Which won’t trouble PA at all. If someone just wildly overpays a guy on your roster then you have a conundrum. The way I see it with Greg, if he’s healthy and can continue on his development arc then we would match anything up and including the max. If he goes down or can’t stay on the court then we can retain him at a lower cost and continue to hope he gets healthy or cut ties and try to start over.
I’m in favour of resigning Greg whatever happens this season.
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