I'm not recommending this

by TP.5 on Jun 24, 2010 10:12 PM PDT

But is a Ryan Gomes for Michael Beasley trade a possibility? Miami want's to clear cap space and I think Gomes salary matches up and is only partially guaranteed. It'd give portland a backup power forward with potential, and I'm assuming who ever runs this team now is no longer interested in character issues. If not do you think we'll keep Gomes or just send him on his way and save PA some money?

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Gomes for Beasley?

Please

81 votes

No Thank You

36 votes

Keep Gomes

15 votes

Waive Him

26 votes

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Why the assumption that whoever runs the team now is no longer interested in character issues?

KP was brought in partly for the purpose of addressing them, and every indication seems to have pointed at that addressing them as being a directive from higher up (possibly even PA). Having said that, I tend to think that Beasley’s character issues are worth the risk in this case. He sought help after Twittergate, and given the talent at hand, it’s worth at least doing some research and seeing if he’s progressed since then.

I can understand the argument against putting two “head cases” in the same locker room, but I don’t realistically seeing a combination of Miller and Beasley destroying the team chemistry, as strong as it’s been given the adversity the Blazers battled through last season.

Of course, I think that the chances of Miami agreeing to this trade are about the same as the Timberwolves winning the NBA Title next year, but…

Guillen has been a baseball magnet lady.

by KeepItCopacetic on Jun 24, 2010 10:26 PM PDT reply actions

I think Miami would love to dump Beasely for cap space.

Then get 3 max guys and dominate the world forever.

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Jun 24, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions

So they can, what, play three on twelve all season long?

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

Banning "chat speak" is like banning apostrophes. There would be no "you're" if some punk kid in the 1700s hadn't been a rebel.

by haildablazer on Jun 25, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions

sign a bunch of minimum salary guys, including vets

then in another year they have the MLE, etc (assuming those survive the next CBA)

"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare

by douglast on Jun 25, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions

Mostly

I just had to add 30 words. And I read earlier today that Miami want’s to cut salary for a 3rd max player and the only way for them to get that low is to trade beasley for a non guaranteed contract then waive that guy

by TP.5 on Jun 24, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Larry Miller is my answer to your initial question

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions

True, but there's a world of difference between shadiness behind closed doors

And a player being arrested. A good percentage of the reasoning behind the character issue stuff is PR (i.e. the team’s “contract” with fans), and the Miller stuff won’t turn off your average Oregon family man the way players getting caught with drugs and guns would.

Good point, though.

Guillen has been a baseball magnet lady.

by KeepItCopacetic on Jun 24, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions

If Portland is trying to get Beasley

to be part of a later trade, then go for it.

Otherwise, no way….

"It's Our Time":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99POVJfglY

by Storyteller on Jun 24, 2010 10:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

seems like Miami is having a hard time shopping Beasley...

why would it be easier for us? Unconditional No from me

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't want Beasley on this team.

But I would like to see the Gomes contract used to pull an asset or two from one of the cap-clearing teams (NJ, Chicago, whatever).

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Jun 24, 2010 11:34 PM PDT reply actions

u guys r missing it

gomes can help this team..he is one of the most underrated players in the NBA plus being a Providence College grad like myself goes a long way…he kills it every time he’s played in the rose garden too! ….i’d love for somebody to look up his stats at the rose garden……anyone….

by crookie monster on Jun 25, 2010 1:11 AM PDT reply actions

here you go

G MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% STL BLK TO PF OFF DEF TOT AST PTS
4 29.0 3.3-8.5 38.235 0.8-2.0 .375 1.0-1.3 80.000 0.50 0.25 1.3 3.0 1.3 4.0 5.3 1.8 8.3

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by Dep H on Jun 25, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions

I wouldn't

exactly call 8pts & 5rebs in 29mins “killing it”

by TP.5 on Jun 25, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions

The beauty of Gomes contract...

Each year is only partially guaranteed.
So he is valuable right now, because the next three years can be bought out for $2.75 million.

Guess what? Next summer, he is even MORE attractive because the remaining two years can be bought out for $1.75 million.

And the summer after that? $$750k.

So unless he is NEEDED in a deal (unlikely because he cannot be bundled with another player), you hold onto him. By the deadline, he will be able to be packaged with another player. So you keep him for now and see how much he helps. If he is no longer necessary, or his salary is key to a deal, then you pull the trigger.

By the way, next summer on draft day (if there are no further trades before then), Portland will have JPEC, Gomes partially guaranteed contract, Andre Miller with a team option, Bayless and Fernandez with team options. For those keeping score at home, that is more than $22 million in basically expiring deals. Only $1.75 million is guaranteed for the following season(s), and that’s Gomes. There are a lot of teams that will likely be interested in Rudy, Rex, Przy this summer and mid-season. Teams can basically “try them out” with no commitment past next summer. This is much like the Camby-Blake-Outlaw trade that happened.

by Rodney Gustafson on Jun 25, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions

IS this correct?

The way I understood it was his contract was fully guaranteed after the end of the month. Douglast can you shed some light here?

by TP.5 on Jun 25, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions

I think I found what was missing

If he is as good as you say…he could be used in a trade with Miami, and return to PDX after they buy him out.

by ORDucktape on Jun 25, 2010 1:43 AM PDT reply actions

I was just scrolling through hoopshype

And apparently Miami was trying to trade Beasley for Gomes before the Portland deal, but Minn didn’t want him.

by TP.5 on Jun 25, 2010 6:28 AM PDT reply actions

take Beasley and try to flip him this summer

"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare

by douglast on Jun 25, 2010 9:35 AM PDT reply actions

Get Beasley and then trade Aldridge for Tony Parker?

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Jun 25, 2010 10:21 AM PDT reply actions

Disclaimer: I'm an unabashed Beasley fan, being from Kansas

But I think that the right environment may be what Beasley needs to put it together. Miami is a largely apathetic basketball community with loads of distraction and not much strong veteran leadership. Portland isn’t a lot better in the way of strong veteran leadership, but in every other way it’s a world apart from south Florida.

Guillen has been a baseball magnet lady.

by KeepItCopacetic on Jun 25, 2010 10:46 AM PDT reply actions

Yeah we grow "nice" weed.

they grow “mean” weeds. (read homegrown)

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!

by faith on Jun 25, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions