BREAKING NEWS: JASON QUICK REPORTS KEVIN PRITCHARD FIRED
by Ben Golliver on Jun 24, 2010 7:21 PM PDT
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Jason Quick with a shocker...
Trail Blazers general manager has been fired by owner Paul Allen, less than an hour before the 2010 NBA Draft was set to begin.
A source close to Pritchard said Allen informed the popular general manager that Thursday would be his last day of work, which will include conducting the Blazers draft.
The mood here at the Practice Facility just went from subdued to totally surprised within the last 90 seconds.
On the bright side, the "Keep KP" rally didn't waste its time.
We have reached a new pinnacle of dysfunction.
Click through for more.
-- Ben Golliver benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
Update (4:32PM):
Blazers Owner Paul Allen's getaway car parked out front.
Adrian Wojnarowski tweets...
Paul Allen delivers a final, stunning, and ultimately vicious public humiliation of Kevin Pritchard: Firing him on draft night? Unreal.
Paul Allen will discover Blazers GM job isn't nearly as attractive as he believes it is. Especially now, no elite GM wants to touch it.
Brian T. Smith writes...
League source says Blazers' Pritchard will likely be fired tonight or Friday.
Sources say search firm hired by Blazers has interviewed Spurs' Buford, ex-Cavs' Ferry and Thunder's Presti while Pritchard held job.
The long wait until the post-draft begins. Who will show up to break this down? Kevin Pritchard? Paul Allen? Nate McMillan?
The shock reverberates among national media writers like Sam Amick.
Trying to focus on draft, but still can't get over the fact that Portland GM Kevin Pritchard was fired on draft night. Wow.
Brian Berger of Sports Business Radio writes...
Paul Allen's handling of the Pritchard firing will create a big PR backlash from Blazers fan base. Cold. Won't endear him to future GM
-- Ben Golliver benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
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permission to cuss out paul allen?
now back in sunny portland, oregon
by CleBlazer on Jun 24, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
hmph
Numerically Blazers Edge is #25
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 24, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions
Nonononononono!!!!!
Someday perhaps this will make sense to me…but could the timing possibly be worse?
...
Right when things couldn’t get more confusing.
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by brandonmitchell on Jun 24, 2010 4:13 PM PDT reply actions
Grrrrrrrrr!
I know the writing was on the wall, but poo, this really sucks! Kevin Pritchard, I wish you all the luck and success in the world and thank you for all you have done for us.
Whether by one point or by ten, a win is a win, so let's make some noise in the playoffs of 2010!
we all knew it was coming
timing of the news is bad, but I say credit Allen for telling him straight up rather than blowing smoke for the rest of the night.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Dang
Good luck KP…make Paul regret that decision someday.
You can't really mean that
I don’t like the move either but you want the team to fail or for KP to do something amazing for another team just to show up Paul Allen?
I really, really dislike this but I hope the team can get better and better without KP.
I disagree completely.
If Allen wanted to be a man about it, he would have fired Pritchard weeks, maybe months ago. Do Allen REALLY think that Kevin Pritchard is going to give his best effort tonight? If someone calls with a reasonable offer that still needs some negotiation, how hard is KP going to try? Not very, I’m guessing.
Classless, classless act. Allen is moving back to the Jail Blazer era. I guarantee he won’t answer questions about the timing or reasoning behind the move. Then he will start to cut off media who ask hard questions. He’ll try to have more input on the basketball side. Let’s see, last time Allen thought he knew anything about basketball, he drafted Darius Miles.
Listen, I don’t mind that he fired KP. Maybe there were reasons. But there are right ways to do these things, and wrong ways. Allen chose the wrong way.
by hercher on Jun 24, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
maybe he was giving pritch one last chance
at kp just couldn’t pull of the chris paul trade
credit... firing but asking him to continue through draft night
Allen is an irritating little man
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
this is america folks
wealthy people do whatever they hell they want, he could probably come to your house, stab you, have a snack, call his lawyer and be home by dinner time..
Geriatric Dunk Squad!
1/4/10 - Juwan Howard dunks on Chris Kaman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkOqDgLb6s
3/7/10 - Andre Miller Tomahawk jams on the Denver Nuggets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JVgm7F1QA
4/12/10 - Marcus Camby drops 30 and 13 on OKC to cement 50 wins. http://www.nba.com/blazers/media/camby_chant_041310.mp3
by Eat Politicians on Jun 24, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And KP was in such a good mood this morning...
Well now, who wants to come work for the TBs now?
Stephen King will be along later to research his next misery novel
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
maybe Paul took one look at Victor Claver working out
and said to KP “that’s it, YOU’RE FIRED!”
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
We knew this was ocming but
ZACH YOU PA, YOU ZACHING SUCK AT HANDLING PERSONNEL ISSUES!
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Jun 24, 2010 4:14 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
wow. that is all there is to say.
"I told somebody to stop crying," Pendergraph said after the game. "Actually, I told them all to stop crying."
Well, now I am really worried that KP will go to Cleveland
Imagine him bringing weapons in around Lebron.
More power to him...
I’ll cheer for whatever team he lands with. I wish KP well.
"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave
by DC Blazer on Jun 24, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lebron won't be there
He’s going somewhere else.
by unblindloyalty on Jun 24, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
In which case the Cavs will have high draft pics and need KP ;-)
by danielfarrell on Jun 24, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
RIP
"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave
And with the 22nd pick in the NBA draft
the Portland Trail Blazers select…. Tiny Tim Travers, of Beaverton Community Preschool.
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 4:15 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
only if TTT's really quick
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
And from Australia.
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
and from Seattle
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, What the…why ON draft day? Tomorrow would be just as good if you want to get rid of him so bad. I don’t understand.
Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. - 'The Sports Guy' Bill Simmons
by doublezeroduck on Jun 24, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
the fact that KP leaked this news right before the draft
is quite possibly the same kind of thing that got him fired in the first place. Clearly, Paul was telling him straight up today. Team would have held the official news until tomorrow or so, but KP jumped the gun and leaked it himself.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Seriously?
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
yeah
makes the most sense to me
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
I dunno. That's a pretty big assumption.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
Banning "chat speak" is like banning apostrophes. There would be no "you're" if some punk kid in the 1700s hadn't been a rebel.
by haildablazer on Jun 24, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
what's being assumed?
the blazers didn’t have a presser scheduled. at the earliest, they would have announced it at the post-draft presser.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
someone in his circle leaked it
so clearly he told that person. He may not have told them to leak it. I never said he was “knowingly” responsible, only that the leak came from his “side”, which makes blaming the team for the timing a bit unfair.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Well that’s ONE way to look at it.
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Jun 24, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
So what if someone in his circle leaked it?
The news to them probably meant they were also out of a job. Please tell me you would handle losing your job in such a disrespectful manner any better.
Basket's that way, Chief!
by OneTrickPony on Jun 24, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
But, what he's done since being there
has rebuilt the fan base. It’s not just the turn around in play. It’s the transparency and charm of the administration. Basically, you’re implying that’s the reason he got fired and that it makes sense.
Those qualities all belong to KP.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
winning rebuilt the fanbase
KP built the team and had a part in that, sure. But the Jail Blazers weren’t hurting for ticket sales until their W-L record started tailing off.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
Not exactly
Getting rid of the team cancers and bringing in people that the fans could like and respect rebuilt the fan base. The base was already coming back before the team began winning.
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Jun 24, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
the fanbase was starting to come back when the team drafted some promising rookies and began improving their W-L record. And it was back in full force when they went on that win streak and briefly led the division, even though they didn’t make the playoffs that year.
Again, KP drafted those guys, so he deserves some credit. But building fan bases comes down to winning, period. Look at how sad New Jersey’s attendance figures were this year.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
I don't know
the team decided the timing, didn’t it? I think its fair to blame the team for this whole fiasco
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
not hearsay
quick said on the radio and in print he heard it from someone very close to KP.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Do you really think that was going to stay quiet the entire night?
Additionally everyone around the league is just as confused about the situation as we are…..and from the sound of it most are on KP’s side
it could have
I’m not saying it isn’t totally messed up – it is. But the fact is, probably only Allen, Kolde, Miller, and KP knew. They easily could have kept it under wraps until at least the post-draft press conference. KP told someone, who then told Quick.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
What's your point.
I fail to see it.
Basket's that way, Chief!
by OneTrickPony on Jun 24, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
my point was in the comment that started this particular thread.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Why keep it secret?
He’s already been fired. Why would he feel so loyal as to keep that firing quiet?
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Jun 24, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
cause this is the big leagues
it’s a small circle of people, and you do the professional thing. plus, it will help you later too.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Professionalism went out the window a long time ago
He’s the only one to maintain it for some time.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
having your agent blab to the press
about Penn’s firing being a “drive-by” on you is professional?
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
I don't think anyone is going to reach agreement on the profressionalism thing.
It’s very “chicken and the egg”.
If so, Kevin Pritchard might have a harder time getting another job. Remember, loose lips sink ships.
Unless Pritchard soon learns to play the corporate game, he’ll be back in the minor leagues like he was in Kansas City this last decade.
oh please
Logical descriptions of complex worlds contain within themselves the seeds of their own limitation. A world that was simple enough to be fully known would be too simple to contain conscious observers who might know it.
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Jun 24, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Pritchard is easily considered by most
to be a top 10 GM. He will have no problem with getting a new gig.
PA has had issues like this multiple times in multiple companies. This isn’t so much a KP issue as a PA issue.
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Jun 24, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rational input amongst a sea of
Incoherant ranting
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by BlazerFan1 on Jun 24, 2010 5:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Most of the ranting's been incredibly coherent
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
what is rational about this?
a GM who is praised throughout the league is fired, and fired in a really cutthroat way, and he becomes unemployable? Its rational because he quotes a WWI war slogan and he knows that Pritchard once worked in KC?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
What an obnoxious comment
Blaming the victim for daring to speak out about being screwed.
Nothing personal, but give me a break.
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
not blaming
just laying out what appear to be the logical facts at play, and my opinion on them. I’m assessing no blame here
KP is a victim?
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Certainly
He has performed very admirably and was treated like dog poop on the bottom of PA’s shoe. There is no excuse for the way this was handled, even if you believe there is some valid reason for dismissing KP.
by upper left corner on Jun 25, 2010 5:22 AM PDT up reply actions
agree to disagree
I find it impossible to NOT believe there was a valid reason. We just don’t know for sure what it was – there are plenty of rumblings out there, and they will come to light over the next few days.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Damn.
Better be a damn good, detailed explanation from PA; hopefully one that doesn’t conclude with “…and, we’re looking forward to the 2010-2011 Seattle Trailblazers’ season.”
PWN3D
Thankfully we still have the hundreds of million in penalties
Should they leave the RG before 2030.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
ZACH YOU, PAUL.
What a pathetic embarrassment of an organization. They string him out, humiliate him publicly, cut him off at the knees and then leave him dangling until an hour before the draft. BEYOND pathetic. I don’t care WHAT his infraction was, the organization’s handling of this situation was absolutely asinine.
Just pathetic.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions 8 recs
I guess that's one way to look at it
Another would be to say that they gave him every opportunity to pull off a deal and save his job. He didn’t do it.
And another way would be that Paul Allen is a megalomaniac and it's crazy to say that
pulling off a deal should have been necessary to save his job. And even IF that were the case, their handling of the situation was horrible. Publicly neutering your GM is going to allow him to negotiate from a position of strength…how, exactly? The whole thing was horribly executed.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you know that was what he was told?
I wouldn’t want a GM to make a deal just to make a deal. There is nothing to indicate that there was any deal available that would make the team better.
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Jun 24, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
This is utter nonsense
First off, your comment assumes that the team needed some big dramatic deal in order to compete. I think that is a very debatable assumption. Going into next season, the Blazers have six players with PER above 17, including all five starters. There is not another team in the league that has more than four players at that level.
Portland has two expiring contracts and multiple young talents available to put together a trade. The question is what is the need, who is the right player to target, and when is the best time to try to pull off that trade? As fans, we do not have the information necessary to answer these questions. Personally, I think a strong argument can be made for waiting. Pryz is in rehab. The more progress he makes, the better his value will become. Keeping him as insurance until closer to the trade deadline may make a lot of sense unless the team can line up a great trade for a sure deal PG.
Trades can’t be made “on demand.” They require a willing partner. Camby for Trout and Blake was an outstanding move, IMO. Miller was an excellent signing. Martell for Gomes and Babbitt seems promising.
Your evaluation of GO seems like an unfair example of 20/20 hindsight. Your evaluation of Pritchard seems to make him responsible for 300+ games lost to injury. If and when, GO develops into the dominant center he should be, and if and when, the stable of players KP assembled goes on to challenge for multiple titles, I hope you will give credit where credit is due.
by upper left corner on Jun 25, 2010 5:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay, first of all
I didn’t say anything about GO. Plus, I would of taken Durant in ‘07 so it’s not really hindsight. Second, I’m pretty sure the whole city heard KP talking as if he was competing for a job. I’m pretty sure the whole city is aware that PA has been ready and willing to make a deal. So, why is it utter non sense or a stretch to think that KP was given a chance to work out a deal. I’m pretty sure the entire city was aware of CP3 trade talks. You don’t think it had something to do with KP trying to save his job. I didn’t say he should have taken any deal. Just saying his inability to get deals done is what cost him his job.
Rec
What a terrible person – I’m financially done with the Blazers as long as Paul Allen is the owner. Inexcusable
Gotta say, Joey Crawford recognizes the importance of having a big 3rd quarter. He always brings it after halftime. - J.A. Adande
by blazeraddict on Jun 24, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
People use Zach as a substitute for cursing
but the GM who acquired him to make up for giving Gasol away (and giving the L*kers two titles) and got his team to barely miss the playoffs just got an extension. I’ll bet Chris Wallace is going to be sore when he wakes up tomorrow from laughing so much.
"Maybe we can't stroll to the music of the lute. We must march to the sound of drums." -Captain Kirk
by terryisntbald on Jun 24, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Odd for an organization that is so good at fan communication
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Obviously you have a mental block regarding the Jail Blazers era.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
Banning "chat speak" is like banning apostrophes. There would be no "you're" if some punk kid in the 1700s hadn't been a rebel.
by haildablazer on Jun 24, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
what...wait...you don't understand!
the guy they are firing IS the reason the blazers have such good fan communication!
by socalblzrfan on Jun 24, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently
He really needed to make something happen today, He must be the most obnoxious guy ever to get done like this.
No class
Fire him 6 weeks ago or next week. Paul Allen can take his piggy bank and get the hell out of town for all I care. Sell the team to somebody who cares.
Oh he cares
And his $ is the only reason the Blazers are competitive in a PDX-sized market.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Really?
San Antonio is the exception, not the rule. We need $ to be able to win.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
So, $ is an excuse for behaving like a jerk?
It really ticks me off when folks act like we owe PA a big sloppy kiss because of his money. I am glad that he is willing to spend money to improve the team’s competitiveness, but it doesn’t make me feel obligated to excuse his atrocious management of the organization, and his offensive treatment of the guy most responsible for turning the franchise around.
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
WHAT channel is the draft on?
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!
No
it’s on ESPN
I'm a grown man stuck inside the mind of a 3 year old
by The Arkitect on Jun 24, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Well now what happens with the draft?
KP is still working it. What is going on in PA’s head?
exactly what I was wondering!
Marcus Camby was gaining energy again as the game wound to a close, much like a vampire sucking the life out of a dainty maiden. Amare Stoudemire, on the other hand, looked daintier and more maidenly with every possession.
kp needs to walk out of the war room with his head held high
and screw PA over and let him struggle with the draft
what a horrific decision
now back in sunny portland, oregon
Exactly
Why help the team that screwed you over? I would hold nothing against KP if he just walked out and we had a terrible draft.
yeah, why wouldn't he?
I would think that any owners who might hire KP would understand. I mean, that is HORRRRRRRRRRIBLE timing! Unbelievable. There had better be some benefit that we can’t see right now.
Marcus Camby was gaining energy again as the game wound to a close, much like a vampire sucking the life out of a dainty maiden. Amare Stoudemire, on the other hand, looked daintier and more maidenly with every possession.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what Paul is hoping
That KP will feel humiliated and walk out, forfeiting his last year of salary.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 24, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
KP loves BRoy, Oden and LA
KP loves these kids. THEY are very special. He’s not going to hurt them.
I believe KP’s gonna try and get them their final pieces today. He can walk away with a conscience clear if he leaves BRoy a complete team.
Keep Portland Weird.
CAN I SWEAR NOW?!?!?!?!
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Cold Blooooded
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There is hate and there is "get the fuck out of my way, I've got a parade to get to" - Cool Dudes on May 12, 2010 10:11 PM PDT
http://twitter.com/KBZinLA
My Pave Low can't see PA.
Bummer.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
I’d think the heat signature off his SUV would rival the sun.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 24, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
This organization will not win a championship as long as Paul Allen is the owner.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Nominate Paul Allen for the Daniel Snyder Ringling Bros. Circus Award
Given to Most Circus-like ownership groups.
Keep Portland Weird.
by Broy_07 on Jun 24, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Seriously
what reason would you possibly have for doing this today?
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
Keep him from working for another team?
Or possibly this has been in the works for a while.
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
It's possible Kevin asked Allen to let him know as soon as he decided
It’s also possible Allen told Kevin weeks/months ago, too and KP put a good face on for everyone.
Keep Portland Weird.
Here it comes
Broy/Aldridge/Batum & #22 pick go to Cleveland for Shaq & JJ Hickson – Lebron signs w/Cleveland 9 championships to come
This brought me out of Bedgecation.
Blazers fans deserve an explanation.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
We're going to get a tepid statement from Larry Miller
that leaves far more questions unanswered than it resolves. Any takers on that bet?
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
"We wish Kevin well, and thank him for his hard work"
Blah blah blah….
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 24, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops, I see that my sentiment has already been stated
Including the Blah blah blah’s.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 24, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll go
I’ll be there if others are there.
Wow.
That was probably the single most destructive move that could have possibly been made with an hour to go before the draft. Paul Allen is now officially a lousy owner.
by jstamp26 on Jun 24, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Can we have permission to cuss?
Or something? I mean, if there was ever a time, now would be it.
By the way, we should hold that rally now that he’s fired. I was gonna buy tickets, but I ain’t buying crap from a Paul Allen owned team.
Hahahahaahahahahaahah
Let’s be honest folks: at this point, how can you not laugh?
"I take the little gummy bear Flintstones vitamins…I try not to eat the lady. I try not to eat the man. Just give me the car. I try to find the car. Yea, worst case scenario, I eat the lady." - Ron Artest, 2009
And has angled for the job for years now
He HAS to be AWoj’s source. My paranoid fantasy side of my brain insists it’s so, at least.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 24, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless you're an A-lister who will always have teams after him
who wouldn’t want a chance to run an NBA team for an owner willing to spend? (The team just paid the Warriors to move up, so the spigot isn’t shut.)
rec
Barrett: You are going to score 35 tonight.
Bayless: Ya think?
MB off by only four, my oh my.
by thenatural007 on Jun 24, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you
I think so highly of you I hope you get a job in the Eastern Conference.
"Maybe we can't stroll to the music of the lute. We must march to the sound of drums." -Captain Kirk
by terryisntbald on Jun 24, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Stay classy KP.
Could teach this organization a thing or two.
All the success.
Bat88m
by RyanRTE on Jun 24, 2010 4:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'll hate PA until there's a good explanation
Go back to Seattle punk
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
you'll be waiting a LONG time
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Now that it's finally been done...
You mind telling us WHY he was fired, PA(Vulcan)?
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
We'll get some B.S. answer
“The organization has decided to go in a different direction. We thank Kevin Pritchard for all he has done for us.” Blah blah blah.
That's definitely all we'll get from "President" Larry Miller's mouth.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
I want to create a new curse word, something like, “Paul Allen.” That way, when I stub my toe, I can say, “Ah, Paul Allen!”
by Mister Hooligan on Jun 24, 2010 4:21 PM PDT reply actions
take me with you, kevin
re-officially the laughing stock of the league.
by heybabydrinkyourmilk on Jun 24, 2010 4:21 PM PDT reply actions
I'm praying this isn't so he can turn power over to one of his Vulcans.
They’re a bunch of idiot butt kissers.
Perhaps?
Is it possible that the perception of KP as brilliant is totally wrong? Maybe Paul has been watching him fail to do what he’s been asked to do for the past two years and has had enough?
I put this as a 1 in 758491 chance
But a chance nonetheless.
Possible...
It could be that KP rocks as a talent scout, but stinks at other duties that a GM ought to do, and isn’t willing to accept “VP of player ops”?
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
How's PA's health?
I hate to say it, but could cancer explain this behavior?
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
I'm not sure having cancer makes you fire people, but I've been wrong before.
Chip Kelly is my shepherd, there is nothing I shall want.
by qrsouther on Jun 24, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think a more likely explanation is that Paul Allen is concerned that he won't see this team win anything
So he told everyone to win now, and KP didn’t agree with the philosophy
Sad - just sad
What a shame – no trust in going forward. I’ve stated it before – expect Mark Warkenstein to come in – don’t like this new look.
Perhaps
The Blazers werent able to pull off any type of deal that Allen was expecting, and with the draft an hour away the ax fell.
Numerically Blazers Edge is #25
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 24, 2010 4:23 PM PDT reply actions
If he's smart he'll decline to comment
Badmouthing your former employer is a good way to get yourself blackballed. Makes you look like a dick.
It’d come off worse for Penn than PA if he did.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I wonder if Penn leaked it
after getting a text from KP?
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Not yet.
Hasn’t move the team to LA and back.
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd just like an honest, complete explanation
But I will probably not get it.
Thank you for all the great work you did here, Kevin!
"I come to you now, at the turn of the tide." -- Brandon "Gandalf" Roy, April 24th, 2010
by RedUniInLA on Jun 24, 2010 4:23 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Thank you KP
Paul Allen is a worthless sack of fail as a human being
Gotta say, Joey Crawford recognizes the importance of having a big 3rd quarter. He always brings it after halftime. - J.A. Adande
WOW
is it fair to say that Paul Allen has officially gone crazy? What a completely AWFUL way to run a franchise. What a complete @()*# move! UNBELIEVABLE.
This franchise could be run to the ground very soon because its owner has his hands WAY to involved in things…what a joke.
TOO MUCH DRAMA!
#1 Fan of the Blazer Geezer Squad! Proving that life exists after 30 and beyond. Love the classics: Camby, Miller and Howard!
this wasn't spontaneous
this has been calculated.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
let me say that again
anyone think the first conversation in over a month with Paul Allen went badly for KP?
What are the chances we offer the latest opening to the capologist for ESPN?
He seems talented.
by BatumShakalaka88 on Jun 24, 2010 4:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Pritch must have known 2 or 3 weeks ago
Now it’s pretty obvious why he put his house up on the market.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
Does anyone have any idea what is going on?
Has there been any leaks about WHY any of this has happened?
The only thing that makes me feel sicker to my stomach than this news
Is the idea that we could have Warke….ugh…
Warkenhurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…
WarkentienURGHHHHHBLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH…
We could have…that guy…as our GM next season…
Truly a dark day
"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez
started with the draft... and it ends with a draft.... i'm crying.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!
by faith on Jun 24, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
warkenhurrrrrrrrrrUGHEEEEEGH...!
LMFAO
by 1ofthe7 on Jun 25, 2010 2:33 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
if there is there a worse way to handle this whole KP situation...i can't imagine what it is.
“You’re fired…..now, who should we draft and can you work the phones on a Rudy trade before cleaning out your desk.”
Someday we will know what all transpired since the Penn firing and the fallout, but right now it looks like a billionaire with a massive ego has lost his marbles.
Maybe it's just cause im objective
But PA could have a reason and I refuse to bad mouth our owner who is doing his best wrong or right to get this organization back to the promise land – If days go by and there is no word on the reason, then we can pile on him. Til then calm down. We owe PA that.
Bat88m
I'll give em enough to not curse him just yet... but he $@#% up again, and he'll have my ill will to deal with.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!
Just a reminder to everyone that swearing isn't allowed, nor are acronyms for swearing.
Even on a day as tough as this. If you’re seeing messages disappear, it’s likely due to swearing. Thanks everyone.
Warkentien isn't an acronym for swearing
No matter how dirty it sounds
"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez
No that would be hiring Bob Whitsitt
Or maybe Mo Cheeks.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Dunno
you seen his investment portfolio?
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
PA turning into the Seinfeld
caricature of Steinbrenner.
this is terrible
we knew it was coming, but it’s no easier. I’m a bitter grumpy sports fan right now.
"Bof teemz play hahd"
New possible curse words in Portland:
“Paul Allen”
“Vulcan”
Anything else?
by Mister Hooligan on Jun 24, 2010 4:27 PM PDT reply actions
Watching Tom Penn on the ESPN Draft is just making this more painful
How could this happen to us?
"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez
Terrible news. Wow
I hope KP lands a job where he is treated with respect. The whole situation just shows what kind of character he is. To grin and bear it this long, continuing to do the job, and not disrespect the ones who are doing a disservice is commendable but painful to watch.
Or his character is a guy who leaks false information to reporters to turn the public against his boss
I don’t know what, even if, KP did wrong… but I don’t think KP is blameless in all this as well. Just from the fact that he is leaking stuff like this to the media seems like a BIG problem.
by diskord on Jun 24, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is a "fact" ???
How do you know it’s a “fact” that he’s leaking this? What from KP’s past behavior makes you think he’d act that way? He’s been a company man even when he shouldn’t.
uuuh
if my team were my brother, my brother just slept with my girlfriend
Re: Rudy Gaye "His athleticism allows him to remove himself from plays better than anyone I’ve seen in a while" - as11osu
its quick
i be he is wrong
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
draft Kevin Seraphin
by thomasikehara on Jun 24, 2010 4:28 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
wouldn't surprise me.
"What people need to know is that those pictures were taken a year and a half ago, and I've grown since then." - Greg Oden
by dario argento on Jun 24, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
beaten to the Iavaroni joke!
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
You suck at business Paul Allen i'm sorry
You know it will be on YOU when the next GM ruins the hard work Pritchard put in to make this team great.
Dwight James said on The Game Geoff Petrie's wife house shopping in PDX
Could be important. Could mean nothing more than Petrie’s planning to move back to PDX if fired.
Keep Portland Weird.
Which happens to lots of folks
Heck Sheed is moving back here.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Blazers could do worse than Petrie...
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
i bet the letters "KP" are the equivalant of spitting in pauls face at the moment, they dare not utter them.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!
Let's take a collection to buy the team.
Anyone got a million or two lyin around?
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
I got a few hundred bucks on it.
"What people need to know is that those pictures were taken a year and a half ago, and I've grown since then." - Greg Oden
by dario argento on Jun 24, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me check my couch cushions!
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
oh cmon
Losing KP is definitely going to shake things up – but PA’s money will be a big factor in winning a championship and it would be really difficult to do it without it.
Bat88m
by RyanRTE on Jun 24, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yup
We wouldn’t have Batum OR Rudy if not for PA’s ability to flat out buy picks among other things.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
His insistence on meddling in day-to-day affairs of running the team has a cost, too.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
You may well be right
but as livid as I am right now, it’s hard to see the big picture.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
But is it really worse than the benefits of having money in this league?
You need money to win in the NBA. Face it. I can’t even imagine this roster without Batum or Rudy (bought picks) while it would still be decent it wouldn’t be in my opinion one of the most talented teams in the league.
Bat88m
KP should say he doesnt feel well and go home
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
nothin on espn atm.. why not?
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!
Cuz it's commercials.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
You stay classy Mr. Allen.
I don’t know if KP deserved to be fired or not, but I do know the way vulcan and PA handled it was just horrible.
"What people need to know is that those pictures were taken a year and a half ago, and I've grown since then." - Greg Oden
by dario argento on Jun 24, 2010 4:30 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
we don't know that. maybe Tom was also told that he'd be on until today, and crap canned here too... maybe he told paul and larry where they could go and how fast they could get there...
…kp took the higher road.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!
what did they quote?
bla bla bla “diffrences?”
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!
^ this
Whatever his infraction, they made the organization look classless and hindered the GM’s ability to do his job.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
If Portland suffers due to KP's 'release'
and/or another team passes up Portland on the success chart due to acquiring him – i may have to put my Blazers hat in the closet and keep it there until Team Vulcan releases control of our beloved franchise.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
I certainly did that.
I don’t stand up for a team just ’cause.
I stand up for a team that exemplifies things I like.
In Bayless I trust.
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we've all known for weeks
so of course KP has as well.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Even if that is the case
He gets fired IMMEDIATELY after doing the draft. What a joke.
Haha--if that was true
it was VERY effective
Miller, Camby and Howard FTW. Love me the geezers.
by RenoBlazerFan on Jun 24, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I'll become a Jazz fan or Kings fan...
…at least the Kings are equally as close to where I live than the Blazers are.
Classless jerks
"Good, Better, Best, never let it rest until your good is your better and your better is your best." Tim Duncan
the players should protest
"Good, Better, Best, never let it rest until your good is your better and your better is your best." Tim Duncan
Thanks for the good times KP
Hope you read blazersEdge and see everyone upset that you are gone.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
When I left to play fetch with my dog KP was still GM
we only played for about 5 minutes because his dog ADD kicked in and that was still enough time for them to fire KP. I know the rumors were he’d be fired after the draft, but I didn’t expect it announced during it and I guess I still had a small flicker of hope that Allen would wake up one morning and have a moment of clarity. I haven’t commented here in a while because I didn’t want to talk about the L*kers winning and most of the Blazer news was the executives acting like reality TV stars. Well, and I finally saw Big Fan and couldn’t post for a while. I already wasn’t that excited for the draft, but now I’m in a funk even a slurpee can’t pull me out of.
"Maybe we can't stroll to the music of the lute. We must march to the sound of drums." -Captain Kirk
Poor timing to prove one of my fave facts...
Rich does not = smart.
Wanted: A MEANER Blazer attitude! Knock somebody down and step on him!
Gosh darn it.
I’m going to start cheering for the Milwaukee Bucks.
95.5 The Game ...
is talking about the intrancancies of the 22nd pick in the draft as if KP news is some side note? Really dudes? Really? I know you are on the Trailblazers network but quit being a joke.
they talked about KP already
what more to say?
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
It wouldn't be good radio if they just kept repeating "Why? Why? WHHHHYYYYY!!!???"
"Maybe we can't stroll to the music of the lute. We must march to the sound of drums." -Captain Kirk
by terryisntbald on Jun 24, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
And guessing which ...
Euro we will get a 22nd pick is while laughing and joking like its just another draft day? Its a joke.
The only explanation that would be plausible to me
KP lied to Paul Allen. The way this has been dragged out makes it seem like it’s about performance. Very few GMs in the league would have a job if they were graded harshly as KP.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
KP lying to Allen is precisely what my source told me several weeks ago had happened in the past
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Under the circumstances.
I understand why Allen would fire KP if this was true.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
and it wasn't about anything related to drafts, trades, free agent
or anything else talent-related
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Tom Penn lied, not KP
Tom Penn planted the Wolves interest in Penn as GM story.
Tom Penn was fired for planting that story.
Paul Allen thinks KP knew Tom Penn lied.
Keep Portland Weird.
ive got more info than that
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
gossip time!
you know you want to.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
aww doug, don't be that guy.
say it!
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Dang, you're acting like Canzano.
I know what’s going on, and I’ll drop hints—but I can’t tell you because it’s all Off The Record.
Spill, spill!
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry, i really said more than I should
but what the heck. story I heard was that Penn/KP worked the Minnesota situation to get Penn a big promotion/raise. Nothing too shocking there. But the capper was that apparently Penn was giving KP a kickback on a chunk of that extra money. It somewhat fits given the stuff we heard before about KP being unhappy with his pay.
Obviously, if this is true, you can see why Allen would be livid.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
by douglast on Jun 24, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
that said
I got this from someone I know and trust who got it from well-connected sources. 3rd hand, so I wouldn’t take it as gospel, but it all adds up a bit to me.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
No you fire him instantly for that
and don’t let someone you CANNOT trust continue within the organization.
If that’s true, Paul Allen is far more idiotic than if not.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
If that was the case a lot more people would know about that league wide
We have heard almost nothing from that .
just teling you what I heard
no idea if it’s true.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Kickbacks? Really?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Microsoft
Looks like I am going to buy a Mac tomorrow.
by Mister Hooligan on Jun 24, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
PA doesn't have much to do with them anymore I believe
The Blazers gave out Brandon Roy branded iPods to reporters a few years ago.
Why would a GM want to come to Portland after seeing how bad KP got treated?
"Good, Better, Best, never let it rest until your good is your better and your better is your best." Tim Duncan
only 30 jobs, the pay is good
owner will spare no expense. plenty of good reasons.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
The top guys aren't going to leave stable situations
Right now we’re like the hot girl (with our young talent and Allen’s wallet) who is also completely insane and unpredictable. If someone who’s a good catch and is a healthy relationship isn’t going to leave for the crazy, but someone who’s single and has a few flaws will accept.
"Maybe we can't stroll to the music of the lute. We must march to the sound of drums." -Captain Kirk
by terryisntbald on Jun 24, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
cash money
The interview would go like this:
GM Candidate: How much does this gig pay?
Paul Allen: I think about $1.5 million a year would be fair. Any other questions?
GM C: If you don’t mind me asking, how come you canned KP?
PA: He withheld information from me and badmouthed me to the press.
GM C: I would never do that ever. $1.5 million a year, did you say? Yeah. Never ever.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
by abdelnaby on Jun 24, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Woj reports
Paul Allen delivers a final, stunning, and ultimately vicious public humiliation of Kevin Pritchard: Firing him on draft night? Unreal
Like he didn’t contribute to trashing him before he got canned, now hes trying to be sympathetic, no thanks douche.
Draft Cole Aldrich
by jlarose78 on Jun 24, 2010 4:36 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
what a tool.
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by dario argento on Jun 24, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Get it over it, guys.
My God. Some of you people…
Am I the only one here who doesn't see this as a big deal?
He had a 3 year run as GM. Not too bad. He did a good job. We’ll bring in someone else, and they’ve got some great stuff to work with. It’s a business, and people get fired.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
no he's not
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
You don't get it
Kevin turned around what became a bad culture and brought in players that were fun to root for in addition to being pretty solid players. Kevin get’s it – understands team chemistry and how character plays a role in this. It wasn’t that long ago that this team was so hard to pull for and it could get there faster then some think if you bring in the wrong person.
Excuse me
Just because we disagree doesn’t mean I don’t know the team or the changes that have been made in the last few years. I’ve been a Blazer fan for a long time. I’ve seen a lot of ups and downs. Before I make a decision regarding this move, I’m going to wait to see how it affects the team on the court.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
The only "reasonable" explanation for this circus that I can understand that fits the timeline,
is that Paul Allen fired KP because he wanted a blockbuster trade made during this offseason that would be a high risk/reward deal, and KP (and Penn) didn’t want to do destroy their cake. Allen then decides to can Penn to show KP that he means business. That would explain the firing over “philosophical differences”.
But what about dealing with RLEC?
We could have had Hedo, Vince Carter, Antawn Jamison…oh wait those guys played like crap this year and Andre Miller carried this team when everyone else was injured.
i believe someone points out above
that KP and Penn may have collaborated to raise Penn’s perceived value (in Minnesota’s eyes) with KP getting a cut of the resultant raise that Penn would receive from the Blazers. Seems to fit, I sure don’t chalk it up to job performance (just look at the win totals).
by sammymohawk on Jun 24, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Take emotion out of this and what do we know.
KP tried like crazy to do what he has never been able to do…make a huge trade not involving the draft
Many rumors over the last 24 months that GM’s won’t respond to KP because of his attitude and unrealistic expectations
KP chose not to side with the team when was fired
KP may have been more of the problem with the Roy negotiations than we know
KP has taken way too much of the credit for building this team.
Maybe this is as far as KP could take us.
WWOPD? What would Optimus Prime do?
I don't disagree ...
but the way PA hung him out to dry in public to humiliate him is a disgusting trait. Either fire him when you wanted to fire him or keep him because he doesn’t deserve to be fired.
by MBRANDEB on Jun 24, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I COMPLETELY agree with this sentiment.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops
The keys here are taking emotion out of the equation and what we really know. Not much.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
The ex-Sonic fan iin me s admittedly having a chuckle at this whole ordeal.
The objective NBA fan in me is deeply intrigued in the behind the scenes aspect of the story.
The Blazer observer in me is interested to watch this play out over the next few hours at the NBA Draft.
As a Sonic fan, let me tell you to be happy you've got a filthy rich owner who cares about the team.
AK, you're blowing out of the water
my theory that KP and you are the same man and PA caught you posting on BE.
I'm sorry.
Apparently I can’t say under the desk.
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Hahahaha
I don’t think it was “under the desk” that got you in trouble. :)
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
no?
:)
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by blazersunited on Jun 24, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe PA fired KP now so that we are distracted by the draft
can’t fully dwell on it and he somehow thinks that will make it blow over?
No Really !!!!!
Like Windows from MS there will be an update soon that will according to PA “FIX EVERYTHING”
Remember ONCE A GEEK ALWAYS A GEEK!
Good Luck KP!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." Winston Churchill
This really tells us a lot about Paul Allen
Yes, he has every right to hire and fire anyone that works for him. But to publicly humiliate a key employee like this is really unconscionable.
Have you no decency Mr. Allen?
(rhetorical question…because he apparently does not)
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Jun 24, 2010 4:44 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
who publicly what now?
KP’s inner circle leaked the firing. PA had no intention of a public humiliation, as far as we know.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
Well...I would call stringing out your GM...
firing his top aide, refusing to offer any support in public, hiring a search firm for his replacement behind his back, basically letting everyone know he has no authority, then firing him on draft day and telling him he is going to work the draft pretty humiliating.
When you’re already been fired, it is not “leaking” to tell someone that.
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Jun 24, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
who else thinks
KP’s peers should give him the exec of the year award (post hum) for putting up with this?
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
you missed his tone...
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"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a good run. I wish we could know the reason he’s being let go. Good luck to KP.
I was a Blazer fan before KP and I’ll continue being one. Hopefully we can get Petrie or Warkentien.
by jksnake99 on Jun 24, 2010 4:45 PM PDT reply actions 7 recs
Are you bothered by the way the organization handled the situation?
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
turn this green
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Why?
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"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Not me.
I don’t think Warkentien has really done that well since going to the Nuggets.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I hadn't been.
But then I checked his HoopsHype transaction record. Pretty good stuff. Dunno why I thought he had been only average.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Frack Mark Warkentien!
Mark Warkentien plotted and caused KP’s downfall.
Mark Warkentien is the source for every one of those AWoj KP stories at yahoo sports
Keep Portland Weird.
Take a few minutes to read it, and we’ll see you when you get back.
by Timmay! on Jun 24, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
Not exactly sure why the surprise with KP being gone today. It’s not like we didn’t know that KP was likely gone soon after the draft was over. Likely, KP was unable to save his job by pulling off a big move before the draft, and now he is done.
"I think he’s been doing some good things. I think he’s been doing some good things. He’s had to play a lot of minutes lately with Blake being out. I think he’s been doing some good things." -Nate McMillan
my theory..
bert kolde was jealous of the pa, kp, tom penn love triangle and threatened to go public with pictures and text messages to prove their debauchery..
curse you bert kolde.
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does Mr. VP "Trade Machine" get promoted?
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!
unbelievably stupid
it’s not even the timing that bothers me as much as I hadn’t really resigned myself to the fact that he was gone
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Gregg Popovich and R.C. Buford have ties all the way back to Kansas.
Those guys will be San Antonio Spurs employees under Peter Holt for life.
shows what a joke the process was
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
from Twitter
Sources say search firm interviewed Spurs’ Buford, ex-Cavs’ Ferry & Thunder’s Presti while Pritchard held job.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
seriously, don't you think it takes a bit of credibility away from the process?
do you really think Buford was going anywhere? Really? Or Presti for that matter?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
isn't Presti's contract up this summer?
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
Agreed with this comment
I just dont see why either highly successful GM would leave their current teams to work with an owner that hangs his employees out to dry. I suspect it was all done for show, and Paul Allen already has some crony lined up.
KP is a Buford protege
No way he would come here….
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Jun 24, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Why take the interview if your not interested?
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
Has everyone else's interest in the draft pretty much dropped to Zero?
I’ve completely stopped following it.
Last year Michael Jackson died
This year, KP gets canned.
What happens on draft day NEXT year?
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
woj reports
Paul Allen will discover Blazers GM job isn’t nearly as attractive as he believes it is. Especially now, no elite GM wants to touch it.
Draft Cole Aldrich
money talks louder than A-Woj.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
Money does not guarantee quality.
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Jun 24, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
uh but it can.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!
per Woj:
Paul Allen will discover Blazers GM job isn’t nearly as attractive as he believes it is. Especially now, no elite GM wants to touch it.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Shenanigans
Shenanigans, Shenanigans, Shenanigans. We’re getting hustled by KP with a little help from Jason Quick. Think about who benefits from this before lighting your torches, Blazer fans. KP has been fired for months now, this is his way of slapping Vulcan in the face on his way out. and apparently it’s working.
thanks for joining me
it’s been lonely thus far…
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
If we know what you knew
perhaps things would be different.
I can certainly believe that KP did something nasty; but there’s no public record indicating that.
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been trying to say this too
Three’s a party, gents!
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
Doug, if you are privy to information.
Why not tell the rest of us?
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
because it's 3rd hand rumor
but nevertheless, I posted it up above
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
I think some people might be afraid to speak up
I don’t think I’ve eve seen BE so hostile to dissenting opinions. It’s really unfortunate.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
I think you're probably right...
but PA deserves all the bad press and hate this city can muster.
Yeah, he’s rich. Yeah, that alone makes him a good owner. Yeah, I’m glad he’s ponied up the dough to make this team better. But none of this forgives him for being an idiot.
I’ll be happy to eat my words if the next GM is a genius, but I’d be surprised if this turns out to be a smart move long term, and of course the timing is horrendous.
I agree as well
This was leaked by Pritchard’s camp…PA didn’t try to humiliate him at all.
PA hates the spotlight people, Pritchard thrives in it. Think about what is going on here…
by senormateo on Jun 24, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Slapping who?
He’s been conducting business on behalf of the team. Until draft night. Ridiculous
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"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
can't believe the Paul Allen hate on here
There might not be any Portland trailblazers if not for him. My theory is that at the practice facility, whenever you used the urinal next to KP he would always break the unspoken rules about looking at the guy next to you. Not gay or anything, just wanted to know. Everyone one got sick of it.
Kidding aside though, we know very little about why this happened. KP is not the only one responsible for all the good things that happened to the blazers lately, and perhaps he took more credit than he deserved. We just don’t know enough to crucify Paul and make KP out to be the greatest thing ever. I like the guy, and hope he does well , but some of these reactions are over the top.
How might there not be any PTB if not for him?
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
The Portland Trail Blazers would've relocated to a more deserving market.
by AK1984 on Jun 24, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know for a fact that Allen and Vulcan were exploring every possible legal avenue to break their Garden lease and move.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
breaking news
from a blog on the internet
Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically
Hey, I'm just stating facts as I know them.
What I posted above is 100% true. If you don’t want to believe it, I understand that “Schmuck on the Internet” is not usually reliable. This is, though.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Just because they were investigating it doesn't mean they would actually be able to
The Contract between OAC and the City is about as Air Tight as it gets.
Heck, I know -- that's why they're still here.
My only point was that Allen badly wanted to move the team in 2004 and 2005, so to hail him as the reason basketball is still in Portland is misguided.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm just saying
that many teams would love to have Paul as an owner, and perhaps they would be here, though not for sure. Without his money though, there is a very good chance we would be a team with the potential of minny or another small market them that never does well.
Also, if Paul is the reason we fire KP, doesn’t that mean he was the one that got him? I just see that Paul get the blame for bad things and not for any of the good things of the last few years. Thats all.
Deserving?
Remind my why you’re here? C’mon dude. Don’t you have some sort of “Bring Back The Sonics” rally to attend?
I am the law!
Deserving?
Clarify, Sonics Fan
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"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
because the RG never gets built, and the team moved 10 years ago
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
You could be right, but it's impossible to say that with any degree of certainty.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
in Portland? I'd say it's 99.9% certain
No other owner would have ponied up as much as PA did in that deal. For darn sure this city would never have done it themselves.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
I don't understand that.
Allen only put up $46 million of the $262 million it cost to build the arena. The city provided $34.5 million.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Public funds and broken promises
I fought on the phone with Harry Hutt about this 12 years ago when the Blazers were gouging us with pay per view
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"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Ridiculous. Completely ridiculous.
Barrett: You are going to score 35 tonight.
Bayless: Ya think?
MB off by only four, my oh my.
This has to be the first time a GM has been fired on draft day
Right?
And it’s kind of odd that there’s been no mention of this, even on the ticker, during draft coverage on ESPN yet.
Because to everyone but us this isn't a big deal
The draft is way bigger
every NBA expert seems to know his name
and be stunned by the decision
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Most shocking news of the day
AW criticizes KP firing. First decent thing he’s ever typed.
Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically
easy prediction
KP will find a GM job faster than PA finds a new GM for POR.
now back in sunny portland, oregon
It will be interesting to see if that's the case
If he doesn’t, given his demonstrated skill, we’ll know SOMETHING was up…
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
That is my guess as well.
"I think he’s been doing some good things. I think he’s been doing some good things. He’s had to play a lot of minutes lately with Blake being out. I think he’s been doing some good things." -Nate McMillan
I'd be surprised
It won’t take long before we get a new GM. I predict at least a year before KP is GM again.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
He may still be paid by Paul...
unless the firing is “for cause”.
I
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
considering the openings,i highly doubt that
teams like CLE, LAC, PHX, and even NYK would love to hire Pritch
now back in sunny portland, oregon
Anybody know who is...
Who is making the picks for the Blazers in the draft???
KP is
that’s why this is a pathetic situation. KP is being forced to stay in the war room until the draft is over.
now back in sunny portland, oregon
wheeler is at the facility
and just confirmed that kp is in the war room..
by blazersunited on Jun 24, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely disgusting
This is not how you run a winning team with a bright future and a rabid, and very enthusiastic fan base. I think it’s classless and nasty to do this to KP, and it makes Allen look even worse.
If we were the Nets with no talent or future or wins and nobody showed up to the Rose Garden, maybe you can be dramatic and make a big statement. But when you’re winning and the future looks good, why the hell do you make a move like this, and in this fashion? Even if KP didn’t deserve to keep his job, doing it in such a ugly fashion says “Hey, the team on the court is better, but the management is as clueless as ever.”
by JonathanPDX on Jun 24, 2010 4:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
a while ago, Ben posted
that it would be “very telling” if Born and Buchanan got contract extensions, and Pritchard got fired.
So today was very telling.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
Can you explain the "telling"?
I haven’t followed the Blazers much since the playoffs.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I admit
this is mostly a jab at Ben and his Canzano-esque bias in his reporting of the whole Penn/KP situation.
But the other thing that it tells me: if working for the Blazers/PA is so awful, and KP was so horrendously mistreated, why didn’t B&B walk too? KP’s no angel here. He got fired for a reason.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
Yes, I agree.
KP is not without flaw. Situations like this are not black and white. It’s strange how people can deify a figure when that person brought us out of the darkness.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
If there's something there
The ownership should have come clean. Let us decide for ourselves. By conducting it’s business in this manner, they decided they didn’t care about the fanbase and public opinion.
Basket's that way, Chief!
by OneTrickPony on Jun 24, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
uhhh, no
They kept it to themselves because it’s both ethically and legally questionable to air out your employee’s dirty laundry to the press and the fanbase.
Conversely, KP or his camp have been leaking information because they don’t care about PA and the Blazers’s standing in the eyes of the fanbase and the public.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
It depends.
Sometimes airing dirty laundry will just start a fight where both parties lose. If KP’s camp leaked this firing, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Blazers organization hits back with something juicy against KP. The timing of this news is so poorly timed, I have to believe it was leaked with intentions.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
As everyone else notes, you can't make workplace issues public
We’re simply stuck guessing, until someone writes a book in 10 years.
Maybe not a play by play, but at least give us an idea of what is going on.
In the court of public opinion, Paul Allen and Vulcan loses with this approach. High level firings are done routinely in the NBA…there’s usually some sort of an explanation. From Penn to Pritchard, it’s been shady all around.
Basket's that way, Chief!
by OneTrickPony on Jun 24, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Usually the explanations known are leaked to the press, but not a public statement.
Orgs usually like to keep quiet in these matters. I know it stinks, but…
heck, I hope he's my boss someday
I’d love to get fired and still rake in a year’s worth of my six-figure salary.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
this couldn't wait one more day?!!
the guy is salary. didn’t have to demean him in this way. this is despicable!
kObe iS thE aNtiChRiSt
by Brendan Holladay on Jun 24, 2010 5:01 PM PDT reply actions
Paul Allen and Vulcan Enterprises (tm):
Building Relationships for a Better Tomorrow
Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically
Stay classy
Paul Allen. I love the Blazers, but you truly disgust me. You could have listened to EVERYONE that doesn’t work for Vulcan, kept him around, and actually set yourself up to look like the good guy. Way to take the EXACT OPPOSITE APPROACH. Jerk. Best of luck to KP. I’m not looking forward to being on the receiving end of the Pritchslap, but PA deserves it.
I hope KP does understand how much this fanbase loves him
Is there anything we can do? Some sort of rally for him? Let him know how much he will be missed.
Form the West Linn Pritchards and take the Western Conference by storm.
Chip Kelly is my shepherd, there is nothing I shall want.
Paul Allen just flipped off an entire fanbase
This is inexcusable. This entire process was handled in the worst possible way. Have your disagreements with Pritchard? Fine…fire him after the season. Hell, fire him after the draft if you somehow expected him to still do a good job with this hanging over his head. BUT FIRE HIM AN HOUR BEFORE THE NBA DRAFT? What is wrong with you? Paul Allen is officially the worst part of this team.
Basket's that way, Chief!
by OneTrickPony on Jun 24, 2010 5:02 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The worst thing is...
I still love the Blazers. But supporting them means directly supporting and condoning this sort of disgusting behavior from the owner.
Basket's that way, Chief!
by OneTrickPony on Jun 24, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
bet the kings pick up Outlaw and he Crushes us every time we play him.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!
You are trash Mr. Allen. A classless bafoon. If I didn't love the players on our team
so much, I would stop supporting your team.
Total clown.
by Rudy4three on Jun 24, 2010 5:07 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I once loved this team, but Allen destroyed that...
Classless Blazer owner and Vindictive Venomous Vulcans. You continue to ruin a beautiful Portland Trail Blazer franchise. This franchise will never win another NBA title with your woeful moves.
You stay classy Paul Allen...
Red Hot and Rolling
by BlazerFan88 on Jun 24, 2010 5:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Let us all take into account our feelings towards Mr. Allen
And remain A class act as Portland Fans. Owners come and go, fans are for a lifetime.
by BatumShakalaka88 on Jun 24, 2010 5:11 PM PDT reply actions
I like Paul Allen as an owner
How many NBA owners would you trade him for? Maybe 1 or 2. Maybe. He has given a ridiculous amount of support to this team. KP getting fired doesn’t bother me. If PA sold the team, I’d freak.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
Peter Holt and Jerry Buss.
Beyond that, it gets a lot murkier.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like he brings some of the same problems as Allen.
Willing to spend a ton of money but hyperdemanding and overinvolved as a direct result.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I see it
But he’s also very open with his fanbase. I’ll take that over the alternative.
yeah, good point.
he is the anti-Allen in terms of public accessibility.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
the blazers have about as solid a contract as possible with the city of portland for the next 20 years
the team can’t go anywhere even if he sells the team.
now back in sunny portland, oregon
the Clippers aren't going anywhere either
Would you rather have Donald Sterling?
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
by abdelnaby on Jun 24, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
re.: Sterling
I’m always impressed when someone defends a person or decision on the basis that “It could have been worse.” Nice.
The team leaving isn't the only bad thing that can happen
We just bought our way up in the draft (and we’ve done similar things in the past). We take advantage of the teams with stingy owners. We don’t want an owner like that.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
every owner in the nba (outside of maybe sterling)
has more integrity and class than paul allen.
now back in sunny portland, oregon
Sterling is in a league of his own when it comes to lack of class.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
George Shinn?
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
He's not classless, he's just cheap.
He had every opportunity to relocate after Katrina and didn’t do it. I liked him for that.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
ask Charlotte what they think about him.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
OKC fans probably love Clay Bennett. :)
It all depends on perspective.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
From what I've heard
Shinn has had numerous groping-the-girls problems in the past; but that’s par for the course for old rich guys who grew up in a time when they could get away with that behavior.
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly
Remember how exciting the CP3 rumor was, and that it got started because their owner is a tightwad trying to sell the team. Now imagine the flip side: that’s your owner thinking about selling off B-Roy for expiring contracts.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
So Rasheed retired
I think we have our GM replacement!!
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:17 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
And he still has a home here
So the transition would be a piece of cake…that he’d certainly eat.
hey man, sometimes you get the munchies.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Both teams drafted hard
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 5:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Should be in response
to “sheed for GM” comment…
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Paul Allen
used to be my hero for keeping the Blazers here and building us a stadium. I just don’t get the timing of this move. We will probably have to wait for a tell-all book in about a decade to find out what the heck happened. There are very few reasons to treat a very public, well-liked member of the organization like this.
Shame on you PA
Miller, Camby and Howard FTW. Love me the geezers.
To be clear...
the prevalent opinion is that KP was informed of his end date a while ago, and he (or someone close to him) simply leaked the info a day early, just before the draft.
do you subscribe to the theory that KP orchestrated the timed leak
for maximum Allen embarrassment? Pretty diabolical if true.
Miller, Camby and Howard FTW. Love me the geezers.
by RenoBlazerFan on Jun 24, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Honest truth? I don't know what to think.
It’s a popular theory so I thought it was worth noting. (and it seems like a reasonable possibility… I mean, PA wouldn’t leak it, right?). I don’t want to attach any intent to the action though.
But I’m hopeful tomorrow’s news will shed some light on this situation.
Diabolical:
“showing cunning or ingenuity.”
You don’t get that?
Miller, Camby and Howard FTW. Love me the geezers.
by RenoBlazerFan on Jun 24, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Withholding Judgment
I hate the timing, but I’m not sure who orchestrated the timing.
I’ve been happy with most of what KP did, but I have no idea why he was fired.
There’s a story here. Allen has made some questionable decisions, but I don’t think he’s insane. He has some reason for these firings. I don’t know what it is, or whether I’d find it compelling if I did know.
by Hawthorne Wingo on Jun 24, 2010 5:19 PM PDT reply actions
We all knew this would happen
Rumors were that kp was done after draft. Only difference here is the information got out BEfore the draft , which came from someone other than an official blazer release- leading me to believe the info was leaked . Point is, this isn’t great situation and Paul Allen & Larry miller haven’t handled this publically well at all. But I do know the reason behind the firing were legitimate and 100% understandeable. Kp did great for us. He was instrumental in a lot of good things- but he was perfect , or God or infallible. I wish him well and will be hoping Greg Oden gets better- which is the only way Portland wins a championship.
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by BlazerFan1 on Jun 24, 2010 5:19 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I phone typing ftl
Kp wasn’t* perfect
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by BlazerFan1 on Jun 24, 2010 5:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
sounds like KP did the leaking himself
I'm a grown man stuck inside the mind of a 3 year old
by The Arkitect on Jun 24, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Smh
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by BlazerFan1 on Jun 24, 2010 5:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't know what you're shaking at...
from what I’ve read, KP was the one who leaked this to the media
I'm a grown man stuck inside the mind of a 3 year old
by The Arkitect on Jun 24, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
written and verbally reported by Quick
said his own direct source was someone “very close” to KP – someone in his “inner circle”
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
aka hearsay
Unverified information heard or received from another; rumor.
"The great charm of cats is their rampant egotism, their devil-may-care attitude toward responsibility, their disinclination to earn an honest dollar." - Robertson Davies
I'm hopeful Quick sourced it with a second person unrelated to the first.
Otherwise I don’t know how it made it to print.
you know the reasons behind the firing were legitimate and 100% understandable?
Care to share?
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
The point is
that most on here are assuming there were no reasons, or that the reasons were illegitimate. That includes the bosses of this wonderful site.
I have no idea. I’m guessing most or all on here are in the same boat. That’s all.
by Hawthorne Wingo on Jun 24, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no idea either.
That’s why I was asking Sophia if she was privy to some kind of insider info, cuz I read her post that way.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know I'm depth specifics
But it’s my understanding from reliable source that the occurences that lead to kp’s firing were legitimate issues and not surprising that he was fired.
The way the issue was handled publically is what was so frustrating and not jus from Allen and miller but from kp’s camp too.
Ultimately I think most fans rightly feel that the drama and craziness won’t end. This is something Allen & co will have to figure out. How to appropriately handle legit issues bc they failed in that in this instance miserably. Kp deserved to be fired but the issue was dealt poorly , was conveyed poorly to the media and fans- making the team look like a huge disaster . This sucks.
It is my understanding that kp ‘s camp leaked the firing info, if that’s the true case well perhaps Allen’s actions are justified.
Anyway this whole thing sucks but blazers will be okay. Let’s get to the season and see our fav team play healthy and hopefully this will go away.
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by BlazerFan1 on Jun 24, 2010 5:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
What did your sources say happened?
You have info that changed your perspective. Give it to us and see if we’re as rational as you.
Until, then, please don’t ask me to trust right now. I’m too hurt :(
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
he got fired, talked about it MAYBE, and that justifies his firing after the fact?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
explain
But I do know the reason behind the firing were legitimate and 100% understandeable
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 24, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe all rumors
rumors definition: A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth…
"The great charm of cats is their rampant egotism, their devil-may-care attitude toward responsibility, their disinclination to earn an honest dollar." - Robertson Davies
So what should we expect out of the draft tonight
"Good, Better, Best, never let it rest until your good is your better and your better is your best." Tim Duncan
Sheer awesomeness.
What else?
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 24, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't Wheels refute that?
Someone said Wheels reported KP is in the war room.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
maybe he's being told to lie?
idk. kinda shady that they’ve said nothing about KP on 95.5 after Quick first reported the firing.
now back in sunny portland, oregon
link to 1080 stream
http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/entercom/player/?id=KFXX
now back in sunny portland, oregon
Total lack
of class PA has shown on his handling of KP and I’m assuming that MR. ALLEN demands respect from all of his employees (subordinates).
Remember the final scene in Donny Brasco where Pachino is sitting in his chair removing his jewelry etc because he knows he’s goin’ to get offed. That’s how I picture KP this morning.
Deserved better.
Nothing is as frustrating as arguing with someone who knows what he's talking about. ~Sam Ewing
When they asked me how you danced, I'll say that you danced real close.
Pritch, Slapped
Don’t tell me I beat blog writers to using this headline.
It’ll be interesting to hear the final version of the story, if and when it ever comes out.
Quick is LOVING this...
Not to say it isn’t true but Jason Quick IS the guy reporting this … not the Blazers and he does say someone close to KP said…
…I’m just saying that we don’t know the entire story here yet.
someone close to KP = Quick?
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
1080 corrects themselves and says KP is IN the war room
PA supposedly livid that this info got out.
now back in sunny portland, oregon
I am happy this got out
gives us a chance to hate on PA for this atrocious decision. And even if KP leaked the info, what exactly can PA do about it?
by GMan83201 on Jun 24, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Paul Allen is partnering with
comcast sports net to start a new reality show called, Wanted, Who Wants to be a GM
Give me #52
by undutchable on Jun 24, 2010 5:32 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
We were right
Paul Allen IS an insecure, tantrum-throwing brat. Who will want to work for him? Plenty of folks, because money talks. But the real talent—GM candidates with other options—won’t touch the Blazers’ job with a ten-foot pole.
Definition of a loser: someone who will cut off his nose to spite his face. Paul Allen just cut off his nose—not just by firing KP, but by doing it in this manner.
Of course, KP will ultimately have the last laugh, helping another franchise become a contender. The loser in this fiasco is us Blazer fans. (Paul Allen was ALREADY a loser, despite all his bucks.)
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.
I dont want Alrich - Who is this pick for? They have Okafor!
by BatumShakalaka88 on Jun 24, 2010 5:38 PM PDT reply actions
Solid guy for them, they needed a big body, let alone a defensive minded center with the skills of Alrich
by BatumShakalaka88 on Jun 24, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
i don't think that's a very good move
they wasted pretty much all their capspace on aldrich.
they have no chance of getting a guy like lee now.
now back in sunny portland, oregon
Bad move but ...
KP’s god like status on this site is a bit over the top and we don’t know what really happened. That being said I’m not sure I’d be a Blazer’s fan if the culture hadn’t changed from the jailblazer era and KP’s a big part of that.
I think this might be a simple case of 2 guys with big ego’s butting heads (much like Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones back in the day). Nate gets along with Paul Allen because he doesn’t seem to need external validation as much as KP does. To bad these guys can’t put their pride aside and do what’s best for the team.
This sucks but it’s not the end of the world. The thing that’s frustrating is that this team is probably going to do very well next season (barring more injuries) and PA will feel validated for his bad leadership.
JRogero
Kevin Seraphin????
Yea or Nay?
"You can lose lots of money chasing women, but you will NEVER lose women chasing money. " - Mr.Landis
only if it preludes a move for tony parker
so that we can have the french trio batum parker seraphin
by HurricaneDayne on Jun 24, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Folks are awfully judgmental...
I can’t believe that even though people no virtually nothing about the reasons behind this they have decided that PA is now the most hated, classless person alive.
We are much to eager to jump to judgement… In my opinion…
thank you kp.
Just shows the importance of leadership… these internal conflicts should have been dealt with asap and privately. pride set aside.. working/sleeping/pissing for the best of the team.
Hit me tube sock!
Is PA trying to turn us against him?
So he can feel justified in moving the team to Seattle? This is bad.
by vaderlikescheese on Jun 24, 2010 6:00 PM PDT reply actions
I doubt it.
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
To all those fans who keep claiming that "there must be a good reason"
to fire him, take your Rose Garden tinted glasses off and see this for what it is: a PETTY, personal, classless move by a meddlesome ownership group. How anybody can still cling to the idea that there was any justification for this, even in the face of the timing of this firing, calculated to make things as uncomfortable for KP as possible, is beyond me.
Pritchard will be employed by another NBA team very, very soon.
The Blazers will hire someone like Warkentein, who was Whitsitt’s protege if anybody’s forgotten that.
I will not be a Blazer fan again until Paul Allen is no longer the owner.
I am sick to my stomach. I would really like to express my displeasure directly to Allen, although I’m sure mister hermit would never allow that. Anybody know any reliable contact information for Allen?
as uncomfortable for KP as possible?
In what way is this timing bad worse for KP than it is for PA? I mean seriously, look what you yourself just posted.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
No accountability for PA
My sentiments exactly. No more $5 diet cokes. I’m done.
Al Davis is that you???
Bring back Franz Bread Cards!
Babbitt for Webster is what I am hearing at Liberty Ballers
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Yep, that's been largely reported.
Is this a KP deal? Or a PA deal?
No wonder you don't see Paul Allen at the game with his friends
He doesn’t have any. He sits with guys on his payroll.
I'm completely bummed about Webster
I hope at least that he wanted to be moved instead of playing in Batum’s shadow. Martell was probably my favorite Blazer.
Wow
PA is unbelieveable. Horrible, horrible timing. The way I see it three things could happen.
1. Pritchard could destory the team tonight, since he no longer has any ties to it.
2. If he has an offer from somewhere else already, he could set that team up at our expense.
3. He does a great draft to prove allen wrong
Lets all pray for #3.
If KP and Penn's agent really pulled a fast one on Allen
And both KP and Penn knew about it, that’s pretty dirty and would explain all this.
by cchellis on Jun 24, 2010 6:34 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
So bummed right now.
This is a sad, sad day. I honestly feel like this is lower than the jail blazers.
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jun 24, 2010 6:46 PM PDT reply actions
This is crazy
The hate for PA is totally irrational. I would not be so quick to spout all this at the guy that makes our one big team work. I just don’t see how he get all the blame for this. What if other guys are also agreeing that this is how it should go. Also, there is more to all this than anyone knows. If it turns out that everyone was begging PA to keep KP and KP did nothing wrong then I would also agree that PA made a huge mistake, but no one knows these things.
wow…..some people are set for doom and some for success just like teams or comanies….yet when it comes to the Blazers…its like Paul Allen doesnt want the Blazers to achieve greatness, the whole league is bad mouthing how stupid we are… what in bad Taste as well!!!…on Draft night of all things…I was more proud of the Jail blazers then where Paul keeps taking the team…please sell the team to an Owner that cares…
What is up with Batum talkinga abotu Parker coming to Portland???
Is anyone else hearing this? Buddy is texting me, I am in Louisiana. What is the word?!? This could be amazing!
by BatumShakalaka88 on Jun 24, 2010 6:51 PM PDT reply actions
They want the team in Seattle. Period.
The Vulcans have gone against the will of a great majority of Blazers fans.
To me this can mean only one thing: owner / management is attempting to undermine the fan base in PDX with the goal of moving the franchise to Seattle.
I can see no other reason for this move.
P.I.N.
Paul Allen is a petty, insecure nerd.
by Original Blazer Fan on Jun 24, 2010 6:54 PM PDT reply actions
Is it possible KP deserved to get fired?
Not based on his work as a PTB GM I’d assume. Something behind the scenes had to have occurred for Paul Allen to crucify KP like this.
"The great charm of cats is their rampant egotism, their devil-may-care attitude toward responsibility, their disinclination to earn an honest dollar." - Robertson Davies
which would go against the above theory
that Paul Allen is trying to undermine the fan base to move the team to Seattle (shudder). I doubt that. He doesn’t need the fans approval to do what he wants, and if he wanted to do that he would regardless of public opinion.
"The great charm of cats is their rampant egotism, their devil-may-care attitude toward responsibility, their disinclination to earn an honest dollar." - Robertson Davies
It's surprising how few fans are entertaining this thought.
It seems like a no-brainer to me that the firing could have little to do with his basketball decisions.
My primary problem is that if that's the case, he should have been fired immediately.
You don’t take a person who did a fireable offense, and keep them on the job a few more months normally.
Plus, the perception of stringing him along was awful for organizational credibility.
by Timmay! on Jun 24, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
where did that perception come from?
The media, right? And whose inner circle has been leaking things to the media?
Something to think about.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
I'm not convinced the media stoked or fueled that speculation
to me it was a fairly obvious conclusion to draw
"The great charm of cats is their rampant egotism, their devil-may-care attitude toward responsibility, their disinclination to earn an honest dollar." - Robertson Davies
who first said that Penn's firing was in any way a threat against KP?
It was KP’s agent… in an interview with the Oregonian.
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
That's the agent, not the media.
If “the media” didn’t exist, the agent would have said it to a blog or sent out a message over twitter or something.
so then
you’re pinning the blame for the perception of stringing KP along on KP’s inner circle?
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
Please don't put words in my mouth. It's a very questionable behavior on BE.
I’m stating that this is more complex than blaming any one source, and that many fans are astute enough to see the bigger picture, even though they’re not always right in what that bigger picture is.
if this is more complex than blaming any one source
why is it ok that everyone is tearing down Paul Allen?
"Basketball is a business." --everyone involved with the basketball business except Blazers fans
Perhaps it wasn't a single event, but a series of small things that built up over time
Some divorces are simple decisions; others take a while to jell. Maybe all along Paul has been ambivalent.
I think it shows a sinister side to Paul Allen
Had the intent to fire KP all along and only kept him on to work the draft hoping it would save his job… in hindsight I wish KP would’ve told Paul Allen to get bleeped the instant he got wind of that stench
"The great charm of cats is their rampant egotism, their devil-may-care attitude toward responsibility, their disinclination to earn an honest dollar." - Robertson Davies
well I credit KP
for resurrecting the franchise… the only knock I can think basketball wise is maybe Paul Allen wanted to draft Durant and KP insisted on Oden… even with that I doubt it would be enough to push Allen to make such a spectacle out of KP’s demise
"The great charm of cats is their rampant egotism, their devil-may-care attitude toward responsibility, their disinclination to earn an honest dollar." - Robertson Davies
quite possible
perhaps KP and Penn’s agent floated rumor that Penn was offered job at Minn. In an effort to keep Penn, Allen made Penn a substantial offer. KP and Penn knew it was a lie. When Allen heard Penn was never offered the job he was understandably irate and fired Penn. KP is now gone for the same reason.
He outed PA's meddling in the cases of Patty Mills and Martell Webster
PA wants to get some credit, too, and not just the blame.
by Original Blazer Fan on Jun 24, 2010 6:59 PM PDT reply actions
It was a legitimate offer
They have the contract to prove it.
by Original Blazer Fan on Jun 24, 2010 7:00 PM PDT reply actions
All of you folks
In disgust with this decision and hating PA are pathetic! You are acting like you know everything that happened at their office and are throwing fits! How do you know KP didn’t dig his own hole? I’ve heard quite a few times about the statements and accusations posted above about him. How do you folks know he isn’t a greasy, slimeball salesman? That’s what I’ve gotten out of him and he is definitely a “me first” kind of guy. He did quite a bit for this team but I was never a fan of his character
by elkaholic84 on Jun 24, 2010 7:00 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
who's throwing a fit?
Calm down. Questioning the decision making of a strangely timed, putting it mildly, firing is fair grounds to rile any Trail Blazer fan. I’m still down with Paul Allen as owner but also feel entitled to some explanation that’s real and not corporate bleep.
"The great charm of cats is their rampant egotism, their devil-may-care attitude toward responsibility, their disinclination to earn an honest dollar." - Robertson Davies
Ever?
Don’t tempt me y5k
"The great charm of cats is their rampant egotism, their devil-may-care attitude toward responsibility, their disinclination to earn an honest dollar." - Robertson Davies
WAY TO GO VULCAN
You just made the worst mistake ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
makes me kinda happy their planet got destroyed
but sad they time traveled back to the present to bleep with our team
"The great charm of cats is their rampant egotism, their devil-may-care attitude toward responsibility, their disinclination to earn an honest dollar." - Robertson Davies
Whether you like the move at GM or not, Paul Allen comes off looking bad here.
Waiting til an hour before draft night is just about the weirdest timing I can think of. Makes no sense.
Personally, I’m no fan of the move. The Blazers had better get this rehire correct. I know most elite GM’s won’t touch Portland now, but there will have to be one or two guys out there intrigued enough with the job to sign on. It will look very bad if the new guy doesn’t work out.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Allen didn't make the announcement
It was leaked, presumably by one of KP’s associates.
For whatever that’s worth.
Si equum mortuum flagellēs, non celerium currat.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 24, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
it does when many here say
that a big part of it was that it happened on draft day. Seems like that was KP’s doing, or at least thats very likely. I hate to be defending PA but there is so much hate towards him that makes no sense until anyone knows what happened.
Just need to vent
After following the Blazers for 30+ years, I am not sure which qualifies as the lowest moment. We have had some low one, but thankfully there have been some positives over the years. The hard part is getting one’s hopes up to be disappointed again. That’s part of sports in general I suppose. Since the Trail Blazers are the only big game in town, a lot rides on them for sports fans. The lows get harder to take. The disappointments that seem to come when things seem to be going well… I don’t know. I may find it hard to ever be a fan of the organization again, but I feel for the players. We have some good guys with talent, but always something comes up to dash the hopes. I will reserve final judgment, and in time I may come to learn that firing Tm Penn and Kevin Pritchard made sense, but it was handled horribly. Any respect I had for Paul Allen has evaporated at the moment. He should have sold when he had the notion a few years ago. I see this as similar to trashing your own home. Who will want to come when you are done making a mess?
This isn't the Lakers,...
"It's not Show time. It's GO time!"
"War is Hell. Go to War!"
Firing of Kevin Pritchard.
As a former employee of the Portland Trailblazers during their “JailBlazers” reign Mr. Allen’s Modus operandi has not changed since I have left the organization. I saw the exact same treatment afforded to former General Manager John Nash along with former President John Patterson when they fell out of favor with Mr. Allen too. All I know is that once his suits at Vulcan are involved the JUSTICE is QUICK AND PAINFUL to the personnel involved. Finally, my personal observation about the organization is that it is HIGHLY DYSFUNCTIONAL and that Mr. Allen WILL NEVER WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP the way he runs the team much to his DISLIKE. !! I am glad I left the Blazers when I did !!
Let's purge now and move on.
Tomorrow is another day.
by raoulduke on Jun 24, 2010 8:12 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
All right...
This franchise is overcoming a ton of disfunction…and this owner, c’mon, everyone who is defending him, have you googled “Paul Allen Mismanagement”? or “Paul Allen Business Failure”? this is why people are assuming he is the bad guy here. He has displayed an ongoing pattern of bizarre decisions that have submarined virtually everything he has done. PA is a little different than Cuban…he clearly has some issues with dealing with successful subordinates and putting personal friends and family members into management roles they aren’t suited for.
If there was some horrendous NON-BASKETBALL thing Pritchard did, that’s ALL THEY NEED TO SAY-they don’t need to be specific. I’d understand that. Or, if they brought in Presti, I guess. But if they do what I suspect they’ll do, which is try and let this blow over, then release some weird half-statement explaining nothing and hire a more flunky-appropriate GM…not cool.
Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. - 'The Sports Guy' Bill Simmons
by doublezeroduck on Jun 24, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
wish I would have, I'd be retired and laying on a beach
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
of course, i was only 4 at the time
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
Cold & Wicked did PA in again!
The Vultures seem to taking another successful business & sinking it again!
which successful business are u speaking of?
last i checked the blazers were still in the red.
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by Philthyanimal on Jun 24, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I give up
After moving out east a while ago, I had renewed my interest in the only remaining NW NBA team since Pritchard turned the team around. For all of his hard work, though, Pritchard has been rewarded with the coldest of firings. Given that this franchise has a long history of bad ownership decisions, and the unlikelihood that it will find a better GM than Pritchard was, I’m done with the blazers. Here’s looking forward to the Brooklyn Nets!
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