Do you miss Blake and / or Outlaw?
by mxpx5678 on May 5, 2010 4:08 PM PDT
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So I was thinking, the team seemed to be lacking scoring options in the playoffs, especially with Roy out a couple games. Think about the times that Steve Blake and Travis Outlaw provided a spark off the bench. I know they both could take frustrating shots but there were also times that they both bailed us out. I think Blake is great as a bench player just not a starter.
I know we wouldnt have Camby if it wasnt for trading them, but how would you feel about adding either one back onto the team?
I think Blake likes Portland, I know he is back in town working out hard, and he and Brandon play well together. Thoughts?
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I am not sure we could pay
Travis what he wants to make. Steve I think would take less to come back to Portland.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
They were on the Clips. Probably both cheap. haha.
And Travis was injured half the year. He couldn’t cost too much..
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.
I like outlaw
as a backup for batum…but not at $5 mil…
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by Eat Politicians on May 5, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
On the radio the other day, Tone said that Travis would be back here in a heartbeat.
Travis told him that he doesn’t think the Clippers like to win. Haha. I don’t know how much money he could get from another team after the stats he put up this season. I think he’d come back here, even if it were for a little less $.
Travis to Patty, "Why you sound like that?"
Dont need them, need better
Outlaw was way too streaky, and we have enough of those on the roster with Webster and Rudy. And dont even get me started with Blake. The guy was a big choker, can I remind you of the game during the playoffs last season. We were up by 1 to Huston, and Blake decideds to take a break away pull up 3 with 20 seconds left. He airballs, and we lose the game. LA can keep them. We need better
we were down actually
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
team>players
by thomasikehara on May 5, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
So you are going to base your decision on one play?
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
No
Thats just one example of the kind of player he is. Out of all the players on the roster at the start of the year, I wanted him gone. I dont see how he could help us get to the real goal, the Championship.
you seem to have forgotten winning shots as well.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez
Trav.
we don’t have anyone on the bench who can get their own shot besides bayless.
Mike Rice: "Camby nearly rejected that with his Armpit!"
Mike Barrett: "Now that would be a fragrant foul."
I say niether
but if i have to choose i say Trout, if only for the scoring boost from the bench and the clutch makes
by blazerbeliever97504 on May 5, 2010 4:27 PM PDT reply actions
Hey wait, i know!
a Sign and Trade with the clippers…..Rudy for Trout straight up. LOL Kidding ofcourse
by blazerbeliever97504 on May 5, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
what's sad is at this point I might be down to do that deal
by rip_city_swagger on May 5, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would that be sad?
Travis would be a way better player off the bench at this point, Rudy has completley disapeared at least you kind of know what you get with Trav.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
Yeah, you know exactly what you'll get
Wild, off-balance shots and poor decision making. Yeah the kid could score (sometimes) but the guy NEVER passed. Once he got the ball you just knew he was going to shoot it, all you could do was cross your fingers that at least it would be a half-decent look and not some falling over three point bank shot.
He had some good moments and is a good kid, but please, just… no.
I would rather
have that then a hesistant rudy, who wont take shots. Seriously rudy was good for two things last year, driving to the basket with energy and making 3’s. He isnt doing any of those anymore so he is worthless.
Travis had some really good games, he took wild off balance shots but they went in. his FG% isnt even that bad (39%)
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
THat is bad 39%
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on May 6, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
too much talent
neither would have been happy with thier minutes, thats why we have to jettison Rudy and let Claver stay in Europe. plus we gave trout all the chances in the world. enuff of the “aww shucks” let him do it in another city!, steve was great for Brandon he could still be nice for us but would he be happy coming off the bench.. doubt it..
if it can be conceived it can be achieved
If Steve Blake were to resign with Portland ....
… he would not complain or cause problems coming off the bench.
He woould also bust his ass to earn the starting spot. The only thing that he might not like is being an insurance policy behind Miller and Bayless.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
We miss their outside shooting in a big way
We don’t miss their defense and rebounding.
"It's a team game." Please, feel free to factor that into your statistical analysis!
Yes, I miss them.
They were always pleasant to have around.
In Bayless I trust.
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by staylost on May 5, 2010 5:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Not only do I miss Travis,
but more importantly, Roy just hasn’t been the same without him on the team.
Travis was showing improvement at the start of the season, really stopped by injury.
I think he will take less because he wants to be back, which counts for something also.
"You be realistic," Oden said. "I’m going to stay happy. All right?"
Get Both.
I like them a lot. What other reason do I need?
"[S]ince men enjoyed very great leisure, they used it to pursue many kinds of commodities unknown to their fathers, and that was that first yoke they placed upon themselves without thinking about it, and the first source of evils the prepared for their descendants. For, besides continuing thus to soften body and mind, as these commodities had lost almost all their pleasantness through habit, and as they had at the same time degenerated into true needs, being deprived of them became much more cruel than possessing them was sweet; and people were unhappy to lose them without being happy to have them." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
travis is da man. nuff said. bring him back. please.
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. -- Thomas Paine, US patriot & political philosopher (1737 - 1809)
I like Travis and would take him back
but it makes more sense to me to get Blake back. I was really hating on the way Blake was playing before he left, but he is a solid backup. However, it depends a lot on weather Nate can stand making him a constant back up. If Rudy and or Martell is gone, Outlaw is a solid bench scorer..
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.
Honest question ...
Do either of them make us tougher, or more likely to get deep in to the playoffs? My gut tells me no.
well Travis brings a willingness to shoot at anytime from anywhere
something we coulda used at times in the stretch run. While some of his decisions would be mind bogglingly infuriating, our offense never looked as stagnant as it did at times this season, which oftentimes helped keep us in games.
the big differencei 08-09 to 09-10 for me, sort of my gut feeling, is that in 08-09 the Blazers were a threat to come back from any margin or situation, while this year it seemed as if the die was cast on our losses, you sort of sensed it was over by the 6 minute mark in the 4th a lot more frequently this year. I think that spark could be attributed to Trav and it is something we missed.
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
And Steve Blake is (or was) one of the toughest guys on the team.
Blake does not back down to anyone and always was the one guard who would fight through screens rather than go under them.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
Blake may have been one of the toughest guys on the team
I’d call that faint praise or fairly damning about the rest of the team.
No.
Doesn’t that just get us right back to the 08-09 Blazers? I hope our money and assets are used in other ways first. Blake would be a fine backup PG, but in no way is he our point guard of the future.
"OK Kids! Who wants a basketball? That's why I love my Chevy Silverado."
No, they deserve better than the way Blazers fans treated them
by tominhawaii on May 5, 2010 8:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
legitimately skilled but still takes crap?
by In Walks Rudy on May 6, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
it's a well documented fact
that only high quality guys can shoot the 3
by In Walks Rudy on May 6, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I miss them both
but it is time to move on. I remember the photo from their first presser as Clippers. Travis looked so sad…
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
#25
"Ask me to play. I'll play. Ask me to shoot. I'll shoot. Ask me to pass. I'll pass. Ask me to steal, block out, sacrifice, lead, dominate. ANYTHING.
But it's not what you ask of me.
It's what I ask of myself."
by Dirty Socks on May 5, 2010 9:42 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
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I want Outlaw back. Our bench has not been the same with him being gone. People keep mentioning his horrible shot selection but atleast he is shooting and provides a spark. Look at the bench right now, you have absolutely nothing.
For people who say Travis was horrible, he also brought something else to the Blazers. I would go as far to say his game winner against Memphis in 2007 (which suddenly followed with a 13 game winning streak) changed everything. You also have to remember another aspect to this team that is lacking now… chemistry.
But it all boils down to the price. I just don’t want to end up like the Hornets, an up and coming team that made some bad trades and now are declining.
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by brandonmitchell on May 6, 2010 10:12 AM PDT reply actions
I like both of them and want them both to succeed
but I don’t really see a place for either of them on our team anymore. Maybe Blake if we move Bayless, but even then I’d like to explore new players.
I miss watching Blake get up in the face of much bigger guys.
Entertaining as all get-out.
Travis to Patty, "Why you sound like that?"
His interviews were the best.
Did you ever see the documentary thing that Quick did on him down in Mississippi?
Travis to Patty, "Why you sound like that?"
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