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Media Row Report: Blazers 90, Suns 99

Considering all of the twists and turns over the last eight months, the fact that the Portland Trail Blazers are gone fishing after 6 games in the first round of the playoffs for the second consecutive season isn't much of a surprise. As for the Phoenix Suns' 99-90 series-clinching victory in the Rose Garden, though, there were plenty of unexpected events.

First and foremost, there was a trapped Brandon Roy, a player who is normally so adept at creating space, suffocating helplessly under on-ball pressure.  Slowed by a knee injury that has been written about ad nauseum over the past few weeks, Roy made his third and final valiant effort to take the court during this series. "I wanted to finish the season in uniform and playing," Roy said after the game. "I couldn't imagine being in a suit, seeing these guys get knocked out of the playoffs. I just wanted to be out there with them."  

Tonight Roy languished under the pressure of double-teams, his inability to drive and cut drastically reducing his available options.  His decision-making was also slower than usual and his presence seemed to sap some of Portland's offensive flow and momentum. Regularly unable to free himself for a jumper, Roy wound up making late in the shot clock passes that led to long, contested jumpers for his teammates.  When he did shoot, Roy was off balance and forcing the issue.  He fell to the floor multiple times without sustaining major contact. "I wasn't able to play as well as I liked. I didn't have quite the bounce that I needed to," Roy admitted.  He finished with just 14 points, going 4 for 16 from the field and 1 of 8 from deep.

Even more surprising than Roy's ineffectiveness -- which was anticipated to some degree given the timeline of his recovery from knee surgery -- was the virtual nonexistence of two of Portland's key acquisitions: Andre Miller and Marcus Camby.  

Miller, hailed all season as the team's floor general and as a potential X-factor in this series, saw his crunch time minutes handed over to the younger, quicker, more aggressive (but only slightly more effective) Jerryd Bayless.  Unable to provide the outside shooting to help space the floor against Phoenix's trapping defense, Miller played just 18 minutes, saw only a brief glimpse of the fourth quarter and finished with just 4 points and 3 assists in the team's biggest game of the season.  Miller's numbers for the series were better than Steve Blake's last year but his overall impact wasn't significantly greater.

Camby, meanwhile, was virtually invisible, playing the translucent Jarron Collins, who couldn't even make Portland's roster in September, to a draw. In recent weeks, Camby was so crucial to ensuring the Blazers made the playoffs that he earned himself a big contract extension payday.  Down double-digits in the second half and looking for quick points, Nate McMillan opted for a guard-heavy small lineup and totally ignored Camby, who has been battling ankle and finger injures.  Camby finished with 4 points and 4 rebounds in just 21 minutes; In his absence, Amar'e Stoudemire threw in multiple brutal dunks and the smaller Suns surprisingly won the rebounding battle 40-35.

But there were pleasant surprises for the Blazers too.  The inspired play of Bayless (12 points, 4 rebounds and 7 assists) and Martell Webster (19 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists), as well as a late flourish from Rudy Fernandez (5 of 6 from deep for 16 points), kept the Blazers close. "We honestly had nothing to lose," Webster explained. "Might as well leave all the sweat on the court, blood, tears, go out there and fight."  During the three previous losses to Phoenix in this series that fight had been inconsistent.  In Game 6, All three bench players displayed an urgency and energy level that kept them on the court for longer than they might have expected.  All three were big time questions marks coming into this series; all three, even Rudy, can build off of their positive contributions in tonight's pressure cooker.

Taking both the good and bad surprises together, we are left with a Blazers team that was, understandably, undergoing an identity crisis at the worst possible moment.  Without its star healthy, without enough time playing together to develop true trust and chemistry, without much of the depth that entered training camp, Portland was forced to over-achieve and gimmick victories over the past two months or so. That worked swimmingly against weaker competition during March.  

But once the playoffs hit, they ran into a brick wall of an opposing offense and promptly ran out of gimmicks.  A battle-tested and hungry group of competitors was left miffed at how quickly the season had slipped away.  "Last year we were frustrated but it was different," Nicolas Batum told me as he slumped in front of his locker, still wearing his game uniform and fiddling with his sore shoulder. "This year we are very frustrated."  

When push came to shove against a more talented Suns team, the Blazers didn't know who they were.  Phoenix was able to dictate the terms of the game and the series.  Roy won't get a clean look. Aldridge will work for every single basket.  Andre won't get cheap buckets.  Your role players will need to beat us and they'll need to beat us with jumpers.  We will force you to rotate perfectly on defense.  When you don't get back in transition we will burn you over and over again.  We will, finally, after 5 relatively quiet games, break you down inside with 22 points from Amar'e Stoudemire.  We will, in the end, play at your pace because we know we are so much better than you that it doesn't matter.

That dominance was challenged briefly during the most exciting stretch of the game for Blazers fans, a 17-7 run that overlapped the end of the third quarter and the beginning of the fourth.  Webster hit three 3 pointers, Fernandez added another one, Bayless hit a jumper and Aldridge made a free throw.  "We knew they were double-teaming quick," Nate McMillan said after the game. "And all we had to do was get the ball out and knock down our shots. Those guys are knocking down shots and we stayed with them."

But the Suns remained poised just as they did after dropping Game 1, just as they did after Roy's dramatic Game 4 return. Stoudemire responded immediately with a basket, Goran Dragic finished a pretty runner and then Jason Richardson took advantage of some pitiful Fernandez defense, scoring identical layups on back-to-back curls that pushed the lead back to 8 points.  "It seemed like every time we were able to get close, we made a mistake, whether it was a turnover or a bad possession," McMillan said. "And they make you pay."  

As if that wasn't enough, Richardson tossed in a three with less than 5 minutes to play.  The basket gave him a team-leading 28 points on the night and stamped this series as his own. "J. Rich, hell of a series," Webster said, shaking his head, giving all due respect. It's safe to say that Richardson isn't the same player that he was two weeks ago.  

Ultimately so much of the identity crisis that was Portland's undoing tonight can be traced back to the extended absence of center Greg Oden. Oden was in the Rose Garden tonight, quiet and unassuming as always, mostly avoiding the media that swarmed his teammates after the game.  Roy, after dressing slowly and answering dozens of questions about tonight's game, told me that he had only spoken briefly with Oden -- "nothing too deep" -- since the center returned to Portland from Indiana to be with his teammates this week.  

"[Oden] is still a big part of our team now," Roy told me. "Now it's just him going home, going to work and coming back like he did this year. You kinda gotta knock on wood and hope he stays healthy." 

It's that Oden-induced, organization-wide limbo that makes tonight's loss -- and this season as a whole -- so frustrating.  Like Batum pointed out, this season ended the same as last season but it's a different kind of frustrating.  Last year, perhaps, was a "hang your head" frustration.  This year, it has been a "look to the sky for answers" frustration.  

Nate McMillan's Post Game Comments

Phoenix

First, congratulations to Phoenix and Alvin and those guys. I think they're a tough team to guard, they were on top of their game, and just posed a huge challenge for us. It seemed like every time we were able to get close, we made a mistake, whether it was a turnover or a bad possession. And they make you pay. Nash has had an MVP type season. Richardson was big this series. Amar'e came with his A game tonight. Those guys, Hill and the supporting cast, I hate to call them that, but they are good. If you double team or you leave them they make you pay. 

Brandon

He struggled to get his rhythm. He wasn't able to move like he normally does. Richardson did a good job of crowding him and getting into the ball. I thought Alvin had a pretty good game plan. Each guy we put Brandon on they basically made him run. Richardson they ran some sets where he had to chase and Hill, or Brandon, had to chase and make him work. And they just crowded him. I think he had about two rips tonight by just crowding him. He was trying to get a rhythm and just couldn't get that rhythm.

Did you consider sitting Brandon?

We thought about that. They were double-teaming and double-teaming both LaMarcus and Brandon. Mainly LaMarcus. I just tired to get some shooting out there. Martell and Rudy and Bayless, that group got us back in the game both halves. I decided to go with Brandon at the point because again every time we would get close we just needed to settle down.  And make sure that we had a good possession. We kinda lost our composure and either turned the ball over or had a bad possession.

Bench

I was going to use my bench even though the first unit had been playing well, we needed the bench. We've needed those guys all series long. Rudy and Martell's shots were falling tonight. We were posting up LaMarcus. We knew they were double-teaming quick. And all we had to do was get the ball out and knock down our shots. Those guys are knocking down shots and we stayed with them. That trap had an effect the last game. We didn't knock down those shots and those shots led to transition buckets. Tonight we were able to get something out of that so we stayed with that group.

Message to the team after the game

Well, I'm proud of the guys. I thought we fought all year long. With everything they had to go through, all the injuries, we're not making excuses but they had to fight through a lot. We had guys step up and play and be productive and was able to win 50 games. Which I think is a benchmark for a team having a really good year, not just a good year when you win 50 games. With all the adversity and injuries that we had this year we were able to do that. That's not just our goal. Our goal is not to just win 50 games and get to the playoffs. We're putting this team together and signing guys and drafting players to win a championship one day.

As I told them, what are we going to do tomorrow? Sometimes you think you're tired and your body is hurting, you need a rest, you need a break.  There's nothing to do tomorrow. We're putting this team together to win a championship and I hope it hurts right now, for all of us, even if we're without some guys. We have Brandon coming back, we still have a chance. This needs to hurt, we need to get a grasp on really how this feels because next year at this time we want to be moving on to the next round. Competing for a championship.

Richardson

He's just nailing 3s. You make mistakes. I didn't think we were guarding the ball, controlling the ball the first half. Their guards were able to get into the paint, our defense was collapsing.  And that led to 3 point ball. And if you do that they'll trade a 2 for a 3. They will give up layups just to get the ball in and get down and get a 3 point look. We knew that and we didn't do a good job of controlling the ball.

Fans gave ovation at the end

To hear the fans cheer at the end, I thought it was good for our guys. That just shows the support. They know what we've gone through. It was just proud, they were proud of this team, responding, playing hard, playing the game the right way, giving itself a chance to win games. I think they respect that and they showed that by their support at the end.

-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter

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What to do?

There comes a time when you have to start asking people to be accountable for the actions. To many times, through all of the ups and downs but especially downs, I have never once seen Nate hold himself accountable, to any extent, for the Blazers play. The job he has done for this team has been magnificent, but reading those comments make me sick to my stomach in so many ways.

I can list the many, many faults of Nate as a coach. I can dissect his gametime and in game decisions, but as an objective Blazers fan and Nate being the coach, doing so would be waste of time. However, it is much easier for me to accept a person and give him a second, third, or even fourth chance if he, just once, owned up to some amount of responsibility for the results. Its an insult to the people who have been supporting the team for such a long time.

Now that thats out of the way. We are in a great position to succeed from here on out. With level heads, and a squad built for something bigger. There are some cobwebs that need to be tended to, but looking at Roy, LMA, Oden, Camby, Priz?, Batum, Rudy, Dante and maybe Martell going forward, the near future is bright as day.

by aRC on Apr 30, 2010 3:46 AM PDT reply actions  

hello, seems no one stays this late. I hope my answer could make you feel better.

if you look at this season, nothing has happened according to nate’s plan. The injuries actually tied nate’s hands up. Nate received a lot respect from the players and his colleagues and he finished 3 position of COY for some reason. Nate’s ability of bringing out the heart, gut and determination from the team is unique. and his offensive and defensive strategy can be improved with his experience. comparing to last year, he has improved. maybe a little bit?

by chinafansheartroy on Apr 30, 2010 4:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nate has held himself accountable

On a few occassions…he even admitted that he should have handled andre differently at the start of the year.

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by Philthyanimal on Apr 30, 2010 4:39 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

here to say goodbye, blazers. I have already missed you,big time.

about the game, I admit that brandon is not himself. but putting him back in the final minute is not a big mistake.

First, if you watched the game carefully, you would see that too many mistakes caused them not able to get ahead of suns even when they made their run. nate was right about balancing the high energy group on the floor.

Second, every team makes a run in a game. when blazer was done, it was suns’ turn. so the problem was actually on the defensive end.

Third, like Alvin Gentry said “in the end of the day, you live or die with steve in the game”. The same thing can be said with brandon. He has earned that respect. nate was right to put him back to show trust and respect. this is very important for them to work together in the future.

Ok. I put up my final fight for defending brandon and nate. I am a warrior following brandon’s leadership.
Thank you, blazers. love you, blazers.
brandon: dont get too upset about yourself. this is growing pain. stay healthy and lead us to c next year.
greg: you have got to stay healthy. you are irreplaceble, man.
lma: sorry for fighting alone.(without roy and greg). thanks for the effort.
Batum: nice defence and incredible big heart. get well soon.
Bayless, Webster and Rudy, and Dante: thanks for the fight. looking forward to see your improvement next year.
Camby, haward and Miller: thanks to give it all.
Nate and other coaches: thank you for the trust and respect you give to the players. they showed the discipline, determination, heart all year long.

As for me, blazer is the only team I cared about win or lose. I can not have the up and down feelings anymore while watching games. I am going to cry my heart out for now. and nice chating with you all fellas. I really enjoy the time here. blazers, come back healthy and strong. I am a fan!!!

by chinafansheartroy on Apr 30, 2010 3:48 AM PDT reply actions  

One player's pride can't come before getting a win

If Nate putting Roy back in was showing Roy “respect,” then Nate failed to show respect for the team. It’s never about one player, but the whole team getting the win.

There’s no room for self-centered, “super-megastar” mentality in the NBA. Teams only win if they play as a team. The fact is, Nate putting Roy in killed us in the end. We could’ve won if Roy hadn’t been put in, and there are no excuses for what Nate did. It’s about the team, not individual players.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 30, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

i thought the "super-megastar" mentality is popular in the NBA

you heard what gentry said about steve. and you see the way kobe, james, melo,d-wade have been used by their coaches. 90% coaches will make that move.

by chinafansheartroy on Apr 30, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh,to be clear, I am not saying it is the right move.( since we all see the outcome)

I am saying it is wrong to criticize nate or brandon for it. this is the must do move. nate is in a no win situation. if he did not put brandon in and the game lost, he would still get a earful. I am happy he trusts brandon that much.

by chinafansheartroy on Apr 30, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're right, it's popular, but it doesn't win championships

That’s what I mean by “There’s no room” for it. Sorry my bad, that was unclear. If you look at the championship teams, you’ll see that it’s absolutely essential that they played as a team. Even last year, Kobe was working with his team together.

Gentry’s comment is kind of irrelevant here. The Suns are stocked with stars, and they didn’t need Steve in the game to go up by double digits on us.

Nate wouldn’t have gotten an earful if he didn’t put in Brandon. There’s a fine line between genuine respect, and reasonable thinking. Brandon isn’t 100% – he’s more like 40%. It went against common sense to play him, especially in crunch time.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 30, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Amen to that!

A team win is much more important than stroking the star player, and Brandon should take on some of that responsibility. If he was healthy, yeah I could see it, but when it was said that Brandon at 60% is better than most at 100%? Well, maybe Diener, but it would be close.

To summarize: Wade too quick, Kobe too skilled, LeBron too physical - Batum

by Ltlgto on Apr 30, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with this

it was clear from the start that Brandon couldn’t beat J-Rich off the dribble one on one. If he can’t do that, he’s a liability because he doesn’t defend man-to-man and isn’t very committed in his rotations. Nate compounded his mistake by putting Brandon at point guard, where he couldn’t be a decoy. At that point, the Suns knew how limited he was, and just didn’t let us get any open shots. The result was about four or five awful possessions, and bad defense which allowed them to push the lead back to 9.

It would be interesting to know what went into the decision to start Brandon. I know he wanted it really badly, but what kind of fitness tests did they do in practice? It probably would’ve been smart to see if he could beat Martell one on one in a drill before throwing him to the wolves against the physical and aggressive Suns defense.

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Second, every team makes a run in a game. when blazer was done, it was suns’ turn. so the problem was actually on the defensive end.

Brandon Roy WAS the problem on the defensive end. We got back in the game swarming, trapping, rotating, closing out, causing turnovers. Even a fully healthy Brandon Roy is seldom an active team/help defender, and it was that much more clear when he was hobbled. The 8-0 run as soon as he stepped on the floor was no coincedence

by momomoses7 on Apr 30, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

that two layups by J-Rich were rudy's fault and one-on-one offense got by amare was on lma.

I am not saying roy was not the problem there. I am saying it is not his fault of losing this game. are you sure the bayless’s 3 point attempt could not get blocked and lma’s long jumper would go in if brandon did not come in?and do you see the suns made ajustment too. they went amare exclusively and did not double lma anymore. that 8-0 was caused by a lot.

by chinafansheartroy on Apr 30, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting season

I’m sure it’s real touchy around here today so I’ll try not to cause much angst. I think overall there were some good things and some bad things about this season. My hope is that the season isn’t excused away because of injuries – injuries this team is going to deal with every season because its main players are gimpy – and then we have a repeat next season. And again. And again until the window is slammed shut.

You have a couple types of fans, those who stay positive all the time and those who prefer to stay real even if it means being negative from time to time. I think that part of getting better is identifying the problems. Therefore it’s my hope that from Paul Allen on down, this organization takes a long look at why for the second year in a row they were tossed aside in the first round like so many toys. Arguably by inferior teams both seasons.

I know what I think the problems are. Most of you probably have an idea too. Today I’d feel a lot more bummed but the fact is that this team never captured my imagination from day 1. Last season, yes. This season, no. I gave this season about 40 games where I didn’t miss a game. Then another 20 games where I sorta watched here and there. Then, meh. There are many reasons why I feel that way, but mostly it comes down to two things: 1.) the feeling that they don’t always compete as hard as they should. This team is different from those early 90’s teams in that sense. I love to win and I hate to lose. HATE IT. I’m not sure guys like LaMarcus and Rudy have that same passion. Give me a Jerome Kersey. Give me a Buck Williams. Please. and 2.) that the ridiculous high schoolish offense they run both puts them at a disadvantage against nearly every team they play and also makes the games really dull to watch.

Anyway we’ll see you around next year. I’m still a huge Blazer fan even though this particular squadron didn’t do much for me this season. Let’s hope next year’s a more satisfying one. Peace.

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Apr 30, 2010 7:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Great Series

Hey Blazers fans. Let me just say that I have really enjoyed the ups and downs of this series. Your team is a bunch of quality guys that can only get better from here on out. I mean, imagine Oden, Camby, Aldridge, Batum, and Roy…that is a sick line-up that’s a mile long. I have every confidence that next year will be a breakout year for you guys where things finally fall into place. Hopefully then, you will be kind to us when we are leaving in the first round.

Great post and great analysis. Its nice to read a good fan make a good summary of a tough game. Its not every fan that is mature enough to do it. Blazers really showed the heart tonight and I respect that a great deal. You guys are still my number two team in the West so really this series was a win-win for me.

Some of you aren’t happy with the Suns play or with the BSotS blogging people but I hope that some of you will support the Suns as they plow through the most hated Spurs in the next week and a half. I, for one, will be frequenting this site to get news on one of my favorite teams in the NBA.

See you guys around.

Reading is good...

by N8lol on Apr 30, 2010 7:03 AM PDT reply actions  

rec.

"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview

"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread

by BlazersOrBust on Apr 30, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll root for the Spurs

They are still the team I thought we’d end up looking the most like….. you know when I dreamed that LA could be like Timmy, and Bayless could be like Parker, and well Roy is better then Ginobli and they don’t have anyone like Batum. I remember thinking, “Martell could maybe be our Bruce Bowen” (this was a few years ago).
Of course we just look like yoru basic YMCA team out there compared to the diciplined game plan Pop gives his players.

Keep KP. Fire Nate.

by BlazerFann4Life on Apr 30, 2010 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh, that is another way to look at it.

I actually dream the team would end up looking the most like L*kers of 2000-2002. you know, with greg being shaq, roy being kobe, batum being fox.

by chinafansheartroy on Apr 30, 2010 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

batum being fox

You have no idea how offensive this comment is…so I’ll forgive you (once)

Just don’t let it happen again. Rick Fox is one of the most-despised opponents in TB history

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Apr 30, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth

I don’t know where to put this so I’ll just put it here, for those of you that don’t know, I’m a suns fan. Over the last two weeks I’ve been on your board reading and discussing this great game of basketball with all of you. Just wanted to say that even though we’ve had a few arguments and disagreements I’ve enjoyed my time here, it’s awesome that we have these boards to meet each other and talk about the game we love. You guys have been more than respectful with me, and the blazers have gained my favor, I can’t wait to watch this team turn into a powerhouse. Good luck guys, see ya next year.

by Ceek on Apr 30, 2010 7:04 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

It blows my mind,

that our role players like Rudy, Marty, and Bayless FINALLY have a good game and we STILL lose at home. I hate seeing us get run off the floor like that.

by Bicycle Rider on Apr 30, 2010 7:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Not mine

When your starters fail to match the intensity and effectiveness of your bench, you’re always going to be in trouble. I would hardly say we got “ran off the floor” though. That was games 2, 3 and 5

by rjones31 on Apr 30, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nate MUST go.

End of story.

Painful to say buy Brandon was out there WAY too much last night. Whoever said that Brandon deserved to be out there is deluding themselves, he was hurting us more than helping by that point, and everyone in the RG knew it.

The team is fighting for it’s life and a handful of players show up with the energy, guts, and hustle you need to win, and with the game there for the taking, you go back the slow, plodding lineup that loves to stand around ad watch one guy go iso. That’s your Coach of the Year, folks. Yaaaaaay!

Game ball to Marty. Second one to Rudy. Third one to Dante – born for playoff basketball is right. Damn I love that kid.

by pdxrob on Apr 30, 2010 7:41 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Uhh... those 3's that Martell drained were when he was open

There was no hand in his face except for a defender running at him desperately after remembering they left him open. That run wasn’t made by chance – that lineup was hungry for the win. By putting in an injured Roy, Nate killed our offense and our defense. If he stuck with the lineup that was getting us back in the game, we could’ve won.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 30, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Got to agree with you

and pdxrob. Can’t say I totally blame Nate for it though. I think BRoy, as the franchise player, team captain, all-star, should have stepped aside because he had to know he was hurting the team.
Love Brandon but he gave it a go, but couldn’t do it. He should have put his ego aside and let the others play.
Dante! Hope he gets a lot more burn next year.

To summarize: Wade too quick, Kobe too skilled, LeBron too physical - Batum

by Ltlgto on Apr 30, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that's on the coach

Part of the closer’s mentality is that you’re confident in the face of any challenge at the end. It was Nate’s place to tell Brandon that his body and mind weren’t on the same page

by momomoses7 on Apr 30, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dante! Hope he gets a lot more burn next year

Cunningham is a big part of Portland’s future rotation. Nate will play him more as a soph than as a rook. He should get the backup PF that Camby doesn’t play (against small lineups, instead of Howard) and the backup SF minutes when Batum isn’t in there

If Webster is “back” next fall there will be a potential logjam at the 3. It’s tough, because last night Martell showed us what he could be if he would shoot the ball with confidence every night. But I think part of the reason that he shot so well in game 6 is because he was able to play extended minutes, due to Nic’s shoulder injury. We all saw the “Dr. Jekyll” Marty earlier in the series, and basically he was in a funk since the day that Batum returned to the lineup. #23 is just not a consistent-enough shooter to rely on coming into games cold off the bench and lighting a spark. But that’s the role the Balzers will need from their primary backup wing, to win a championship

Similar to Martell, Dante adds a lot of hustle and rebounding when he’s on the court. Cunningham can’t create his own shot (yet) like Webster can, but he’ll improve with coaching and there’s a chance he’ll shoot better than Marty from mid-range even if all he’s given are short minutes every half. The one thing we know for sure is…Dante can do a reasonable imitation of Webster for a fraction of the cost, for the next few years.

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Apr 30, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 of Martell's 3s coming at the end of the third quarter are open looks with brandon there.

the 3s at the early of forth quarter are contested shots. I put my reasons why nate has to put brandon in above. but I agree it is too early.

I dont like the idea of criticizing brandon right now. do you remember how we felt the series had already been over after 2 blownout loss. brandon coming back as a desperate move to give some hope for winning the series and it worked for a while. fans were fascinating about him back. he is not a puppy dog. you ask for him when he is needed and you toss him aside when not. He tried his best and I can live with that.

by chinafansheartroy on Apr 30, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not Brandon we're criticizing

He can’t help that he’s injured. It’s Nate’s decision that we’re unhappy with.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 30, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least I could sleep after this loss

So I had that going for me.
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I am not that sad we lost the series, we were the underdogs. We were overmatched and badly out coached. The ONLY thing that kept us in it was the players heart and hustle. I am proud of our players for that. I am really disapointed in our coaches though who didn’t bring nearly as much to the table as the players did, and especially our head coach who seems to be allergic to accountability.
After watching two really sad playoff coaching performances, I thik Nate would need the western conference all star team to get to the second round.
But I am not bitter. Here’s hoping we can draft a half court offense.

Keep KP. Fire Nate.

by BlazerFann4Life on Apr 30, 2010 7:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Oden

Was he shown on the big screen last night? He could have benefited from a warm reception, although he shouldn’t need it….man up big boy.

by Alaa Abdelnaby on Apr 30, 2010 7:55 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Dont think so...

at least not that I could see.

by pdxrob on Apr 30, 2010 8:00 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

training room??

what the heck are they doing with Oden? I mean the guy is in the training room for the game why? That was just wierd. The interview with Rebecca was odd.

by MPP24 on Apr 30, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Given the circumstances, I’d say we have a great season. We can’t make excuses and blame anything on anyone. This is a stepping stone to the future!

Can’t say anything bad about last night’s game except the fact that we couldn’t make our shots. I’m hoping Rudy’s performance is encouraging for him. I hope he stays.

Whatever happens this summer, happens. For future reference, I’m going to apologize to the WC for next season. When the Blazers are 100%, they’re down right scary. Good luck, West! You’ll need it.

Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!

"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"

by Andrew Tolliver on Apr 30, 2010 8:23 AM PDT reply actions  

agreed

For everyone that tries to pin the blame somewhere, mostly on the coach, I have to agree that when all was said and done we were just a bit outmatched in this series. Phx had a better record, and a deeper, healthier team of guys to turn to. Maybe their players potential doesn’t match ours, but give our current team 7 more games against their current team, with any coach, and I bet they still win more than they lose.

I’m proud of our guys this year, and look forward to next year being what I had hoped this year would be. I think the coach is an inconsequential piece to the puzzle, really. You can’t go deep into the playoffs without talented, healthy players. In fact, I’d focus on the training staff more than the coaching, but that’s just me.

by Billy Hoyle on Apr 30, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

What I learned this series:

1. Bayless can be our PG of the future. I had my doubts for a lot of this year, but he was arguably our best/most consistent player in the playoffs. I’m sure he grew a lot during the experience and that he’ll be back next year with an elevated game.
2. Cunningham is a fine backup to LA. Nothing against Howard (he’s been huge this year at times), but I think Cunningham should get every one of his minutes next year. He just always gets it done and provides more hustle than anyone else on the court.
3. Batum needs to be played more. Remember when everyone was obsessing over Batum when he came back this year? It was deserved. He can flat out play. So why play him limited minutes in the playoffs? I think Batum needs to be added to that list of players you pretty much never take out of the game unless he’s in foul trouble or is too tired.
4. Aldridge needs to improve. He didn’t show as much growth this year as I was hoping and hopefully this series was an example to him of how he needs to step up and be consistent. I wish we could see game 4 Aldridge more often.
5. Rudy will be fine. He still has at least one more year on the team. Let’s give him some confidence.
6. Oden is going to dominate the league next year. Other centers will wet their beds the night before playing the Blazers because of him.
7. Does McMillan need to go? I’m torn on the issue. I don’t want to give a knee-jerk reaction to last night’s game and say yes, as many other BEdgers have declared. A few days ago everyone was saying Nate got robbed for COY. Amazing how quickly things can change. However, I’m not against the idea, either. My issue with him is his substitutions. They’re head scratching. Similar to Rudy, though, we’ve got him for another year. Let’s see what he can do with a healthy roster.

Prediction for next year: NBA Champions.

Go Blazers!

"Nicolas! You're the strongest boy in the world!"

by ericking on Apr 30, 2010 8:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

Nate’s not AWFUL, but he really needs more variety in his subs because they’re costing us games.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 30, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would like to see the team start running the floor more. When Phoenix would jump out to big leads it still seemed like we weren’t playing with any urgency. Whether it requires a new coach to do this, I hope not. I think Nate can take these guys very very far, just gotta pick up the pace.

Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!

"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"

by Andrew Tolliver on Apr 30, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nic was hurt

and when he did play he was terrible last night. So if that’s factoring into anyone’s “Nate’s sub patterns are horrible” reasoning, get over it. When Nic has been healthy, Nate has played him considerably more.

by Billy Hoyle on Apr 30, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think that's what's being factored in

and you’re right, Batum was hurt. However, he still started the game, so I feel like it wasn’t so serious that he couldn’t have played through the pain. Besides, Nate put Roy back in the game and he wasn’t 100%, either. Was it the wrong choice? Maybe. You just don’t sit your star players when it matters. If Roy had hit some big shots after entering, everyone would have been singing Nate’s praises for his decision making.

"Nicolas! You're the strongest boy in the world!"

by ericking on Apr 30, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rudy makes a few shots in game 6 and now he's fine and needs to stick around "one more year"?

I believe the correct initials for my response are SMH

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Apr 30, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you Blazers,

for putting me out of my misery. Now there’s six months of no nail biting games for me to watch so I can finally grow back my nails.

Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.

by jenstcy on Apr 30, 2010 9:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Suns/Spurs

Not sure who to root for. I rooted for the Spurs over the Mavs because it seemed to me that the Spurs were the underdog because the Mavs have a lot of blue chip players, while the Spurs are getting old.

Spurs vs Suns I have a hard time deciding. I am not a big fan of either team and don’t have any grudge against either of them. I will probably root for the Spurs simply as a continuation of my cheerleading for them against Dallas.

I think the Spurs will get clobbered if and when they face LA or Utah, though.

by lsjogren on Apr 30, 2010 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm rooting for the Spurs

I still think they are the team we could most resemble when we reach the promise land.
Just pretend LA is Duncan, Roy is Ginobli, Bayless is Parker and Martell is their Hill/Finley/bowen/horry guy….
Watch Pop make all the adjustments you wish Nate could.

Keep KP. Fire Nate.

by BlazerFann4Life on Apr 30, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

run isos on offense

and try to control the boards? Keep the pace of the game in check? Hmmmm

Oh and just for reference, the Spurs current team in its healthy state is better than our current team, in it’s battered state. You could flip flop coaches and Parker/Hill/Duncan/Ginobili would still beat LA/hurt Roy/Miller/hurt Camby/hurt Batum

by Billy Hoyle on Apr 30, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Spurs are not that healthy

are they? Ginobli face is broken… of course that should affect him to much. Isn’t Parker kind of gimpy as well? George Hill is killing it for him. Its funny how there is always some under the radar player that just comes up huge for the Spurs.
I definately don’t agree that you could flip flop coaches and they’d still win.

Keep KP. Fire Nate.

by BlazerFann4Life on Apr 30, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ginobili is a beast—better than Roy at this point. That team is a machine right now. Also, Duncan is still playing very well.

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

parker almost

put up a triple double off the bench last night…so if he’s hurt, its not affecting his performance

by Billy Hoyle on Apr 30, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Duncan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aldridge

Until last season Duncan had never finished outside the top 10 in MVP voting and out of the top 5 once. 4 titles, 3 as the unquestioned best player and leader of his team. Anchor of the most suffocating team defense post-hand check. Nothing against Aldridge, but Duncan is a top-5 all time big

by momomoses7 on Apr 30, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in the Spurs camp

1. I will never, ever cheer for the L*kers
2. I will never, ever cheer for the Team That Shall Not Be Named
3. I can’t bring myself to cheer for Utah, and their fans are insufferable
4. I can’t bring myself to cheer for the team that just ended our season less than 12 hours ago.

And the Spurs are a group of likeable guys with a likeable coach I think.

by rjones31 on Apr 30, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'll root for the Spurs just because my wife loves them.

She grew up in San Antonio. Besides, I’m bitter towards the Suns, especially Richardson, Stoudemire, and Dudley.

"Nicolas! You're the strongest boy in the world!"

by ericking on Apr 30, 2010 9:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Meant to be a reply to lsjogren

"Nicolas! You're the strongest boy in the world!"

by ericking on Apr 30, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

in the end

I think Nick’s injury was still bothering him quite a bit and prevented him from being much of a factor in the game. Roy had that first good game when he came back in but I guess then he reverted back to “getting back into your rhythm” mode, which unfortunately is a process that is incompatible with the schedule of playoff basketball.

And I also felt like Nate was outcoached.

When you look at the season overall, they did a lot of great things, but there are still a lot of loose ends. Now they have an offseason, I hope they are able to take advantage of it to address a lot of those.

I still think it is problematical to keep Rudy. With his good final game maybe his trade value bumped up a little.

by lsjogren on Apr 30, 2010 9:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Look i think roy should of sat in the fourth and bring in a healthy body...like dre.

I love the blazers and im glad the fans showed that last night at the end of the game… portland fans are the best in the nba hands down..not OKC fans they have been there for 2 years. Portland fans have been doing this since the begining of the blazers. We had a good year and i wish we had a healthy roy for this series because i think it would of made a big difference..

by broyshow on Apr 30, 2010 9:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Dre sucked after game one - bottom line

notwithstanding one irrelevant hot first quarter….

by blacknoiseNW on Apr 30, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

Disappointing all around from the guys who are supposed to be our top dogs. LaMarcus, Dre and Roy had two good games combined out of 15. That’s brutal.

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

i actually dont think andre sucked.

I just understand why he never comes out of first round right now. he is easy to be shut down by a good playoff team.

by chinafansheartroy on Apr 30, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

meh

it’s easy to shut down the secondary perimeter threat when your primary perimeter threat isn’t playing or is playing like garbage.

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

or cannot play together.

the suns dared so-called best backcourt combo to shoot jumpers which andre did not have it and brandon lost it. andre has a glaring hole in his game and he has paid the price year after year. I dont get it. If he is that competitor many fans see in him, he would try his best to improve. kidd is developing 3s for himself for god’s sake and miller is making the same mistake year in and year out.

by chinafansheartroy on Apr 30, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

tony parker can’t shoot a jumpshot either. Three championship rings.

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

wut?

ginobili = primary perimeter threat.

ginobili is a stud.

manu > broy right now.

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't even know why we're discussing this

Ginobili was arguably the Spur’s MVP this year. 22.5 PER. Pelton had him on his third team all NBA.

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh, it went a wrong way.what is our topic?kidding

what I am saying is andre is great but not the PG for the playoffs blazers.

by chinafansheartroy on Apr 30, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know—Dre and healthy Roy played very well together in the middle of the season when Andre got put in the starting lineup. It’s just a shame we never got to see what the whole thing could do this season.

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

pretty fair.

I am always saying I have to see them play in the playoffs before i make my final judgement about andre helping roy well thing. it is a shame.

by chinafansheartroy on Apr 30, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Game plans don't change drastically from the regular season

to the playoffs. Therefore, it’s reasonable to infer that if Andre and Roy played well together in the regular season, then they’ll play well together in the playoffs.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 30, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not the PG for the playoffs??

After scoring 31 and leading us to a win in Game 1? Seriously? If Roy was healthy, the two would have destroyed the Suns.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 30, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really think Bayless/Miller was the best option for our backcourt in the playoffs. Bayless looked more like all-star Roy than Roy did. Unfortunately, with all the yo-yoing they were never able to develop any consistent chemistry or rotations. They sure did look good together in game 1 and at the beginning of game 5 though. Also did well in game 4/

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Bayless really surprised me

Despite all the talk that he was stinking up the backup PG spot before the playoffs, he went out there and put his heart on the floor. He probably had the most good games in the playoffs. His performance in Game 1 was nothing short of impressive.

Now, if only he could develop a more assist-minded style of play… But I was definitely satisfied with his performance in the playoffs for what it was.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 30, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tony Parker would blow right by grant hill or any 6-8 defender. Dre could shoot over Hill nor blow past him. That left him pump-faking and back-peddleing all the time. There is a reason he’s been on 5 teams and never won a playofff series. I hope the Blazers learn faster than his previous teams and move him before he goes 0-7.

by SerenityNow! on Apr 30, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dre COULDNT shoot over Hill…

by SerenityNow! on Apr 30, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

rajon rondo is another championship PG with a terrible jumper.

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

No

Rondo’s midrange shot is not appreciably better than Dre’s.

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

on the bright side

Bayless’s jumper continues to improve, and it certainly can’t hurt for him to start learning some of Miller’s veteran tricks, using angles, head fakes, etc

I still like Bayless’s upside

by Billy Hoyle on Apr 30, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

you always look on the bright side for andre.

but i agree, I dream one day bayless and roy can start and close game like mo and james. hope bayless keeps improving.

by chinafansheartroy on Apr 30, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't find anything wrong with looking at the bright side for Andre

You looked at the bright side for Lamarcus when you were satisfied with him getting two rebounds in Game 5. I’m not sure why that is, but Andre has an infinitely greater “bright side” than Lamarcus has snagging 2 rebounds per game.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 30, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

meh

I don’t think either guy was particularly great this series. Our offensive flow was just broken, and the only guys I would say performed above expectations were Martell, Jerryd and Dante (spot minutes). I think a big chunk of this is the constant lineup and rotation changes which never let anyone get into a flow (three shooting guards in 6 games, all with different tendencies).

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah definitely

Andre was good in one game. Then he was smothered.

What I was referring to in my comment was looking at players in general, and not for just the playoffs.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 30, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

I definitely think based on what we’ve seen from this season as a whole, Miller/Roy/Batum/Aldridge/Oden with Bayless/Webster/Cunningham/Camby off the bench can be a wonderful rotation.

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, but only because we're injured

He was double-teamed, which was why he was ineffective. Anyone can double team anyone else and make him obsolete. We lost because we didn’t have a second offensive threat, which was supposed to be Brandon. There isn’t much Andre could’ve done about this.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 30, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think after game 1

Nate thought Dre would just carry us with his scoring, like suddenly he was MJ. Then the Suns adjusted, but Nate still thought he found his savior……
I don’t think Dre was bad in this series at all.
I think once Nate see’s you might be able to carry the load, he takes off his pack and puts it on your back too……. then when you fall………
“we got close, but then we’d make a mistake”
“guys just couldn’t hit shots”

Keep KP. Fire Nate.

by BlazerFann4Life on Apr 30, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have to agree with Nate

that our “guys just couldn’t hit shots”

Everyone knows Andre is a “one-trick pony”. He can drive and score. And yet he’s been able to do that his entire career. Against Phx, they decided after game one to pack up the paint and force us to either win shooting jumpers, or not win.

Without a true Roy, the disappearance of Rudy, and streaky shooting from everyone else, we were doomed? If Phx tried that defensive strategy against most teams or even a healthy Blazers, they would get blown out, because NBA players generally love to jack up open 3s. But our guys don’t/didn’t/couldn’t, short of a mini spurt by Rudy in game (2?/3?) and the Martel/Rudy barrage last night. It was a risky plan for phx that payed off when our guys couldn’t step up.

But I can’t blame Andre, he tried to get to the rim, but the contact was always a no call. Bayless tried, to little effect, which is why his 3s were almost more effective than his penetration in the last couple of games.

by Billy Hoyle on Apr 30, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Having Nicolas out actually really hurt. He was our most reliable perimeter shooter for the last three months (how weird is that to say?) and was fantastic in game one. But after he tweaked that shoulder, he hasn’t been the same, and Martell and Rudy aren’t nearly as consistent.

by atomiccafe on Apr 30, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still like the series Dre had

I don’t expect Dre to be something he’s not. And no Phoenix probably won’t dare Tony Parker to make a bunch of jumpers because he will.
Phoneix did an awesome job of steering the ball back to Dre, and they were fine with him taking open jumpers. I think they were hoping for the same thing out of Bayless, but he showed a lot of improvement over last year. Their rotaions were decent to good on our shooters, but we didn’t move the ball quickly enough, and did not have good enough spacing to take advantage of the double teams. Plus no cutters.
On the other end, we never committed to a defensive strategy. I think this team is so good on offense, that we were going to give up something to them. We never made a decsion what that would be, and so we ended up taking it from all sides. What would I have done (since i am such a genious ha ha) don’t switch on the P&R. Stay on their shooters, funnel Nash into the lane with the option to take a tough shot, or pass to Amare for a 17 footer, more preferrably a tough shot. Your big man sags a bit, but not so much he can’t get a hand in Amare’s face. You hope your guard can keep up enough to get a hand up. If they beat you it’s because Nash gets 40. Then make him pay on defense. Whoever they try to hide him on makes him work. The problem there is we have kind of a stand around offense.
And who was our Grant Hill? Who was the guy that coach went to and said, “we need you to be that do anything guy, the guy who gives up part if his game to do a task that helps the team. This is what I want you to do……..”. Who was that guy for us? Did our coaching staff even know what that guy might do that wold make a difference?
If we were totally outclassed in the talent department out there I apologize to coach. But we were out of answers in Game 2. Pure desire won us two games this series. Guts and desire.

Keep KP. Fire Nate.

by BlazerFann4Life on Apr 30, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Count me in the "Blame the Nate" Camp

All things considered – Nate had a short hand to work with. I understand that. I also understand that he still had some pieces to work with – but Gentry & Suns managed to marginalize every single one of Nate’s matchup advantages.

If players miss open shots, so be it. That’s on the player. If players can’t get open shots because they are running predictable and highly defensible sets that take the majority of the shot clock to set up – that is on the coach.

The formula for defending the Blazers was so simple it was pathetic. Trap the pick and roll, rotate to cover the exposed weakside, rotate to cover the swing – done. Trap the low post, trap the kick out – rotate to the shooter – done. Trap the isolation at the top of the key, play the passing lane – done.

I think I can count on one hand the number of times the Blazers passed to the roll off a pick/roll – mostly to failure even when they tried.

by blacknoiseNW on Apr 30, 2010 9:51 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

i agree they never ran plays to exploit nash on defense

you don’t have to post up batum or webster, but run them of some screen’s or just give them the 3 to shoot over nash, the blazers and nate failed to exploit that weakness, so frustrating to watch.

by appel82 on Apr 30, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Something that always bugged me to

was the switching on P&R that left Dre guarding Amare. Then someone has to sag to help Dre, and leave someone else wide open, and they hit a three. It happened every game of the series.

Keep KP. Fire Nate.

by BlazerFann4Life on Apr 30, 2010 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

agreed, but even if you defend it differently, you expose yourself in other ways

Amare did a helluva job scoring 1 on 1 vs any of our defenders not named Camby…who appears to have been hurt the last couple of games.

It looked to me like we tried a few different ways to defend other than just switching, none with a lot of success other than the Nic/Camby combo, which we unfortunately couldn’t rely on down the stretch due to yet more injuries.

by Billy Hoyle on Apr 30, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know

pick your poison. It’s like trying to figure out which one will kill you the slowest.

Keep KP. Fire Nate.

by BlazerFann4Life on Apr 30, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

decent write up except for this part...

“Miller’s numbers for the series were better than Steve Blake’s last year but his overall impact wasn’t significantly greater.”

Miller was shutdown by Grant Hill but he was the X factor in the game 1 win and crucial to game 4 which is far more than can be said for Steve Blake in last year’s series. In a series any game changing performance is significant. This reads like a comment written in frustration.

by colinmarsh on Apr 30, 2010 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Good try

 I like Miller as our point guard we just need some more centers. We got beat like a rented mule without Camby guarding the middle. I also didnt like that Miller and Camby were not out on the floor at the end. I know Nate was trying to get some offense out there and I could understand maybe having Miller not out there however Camby should have been out there, Rudy got burned twice for some easy layups. LA had 1 great game and he looked like a very average player most of the series. I hope he can change his game otherwise he is always going to be a average player and there are a lot of average players in this league. He needs to get rid of this mentality that he is a super outside shooter, he isnt, also his defense is suspect. I just am not a fan of his soft game.

     I hope next year he picks up more moves then his patent pending fade away jumper. I think if we had more then 1 true center we would have been in better shape. I do think putting Roy in at the last minutes of the game was a mistake by Nate. I love Roy but he was hurt and playing like it. No offense to Rudy but he killed us this series. Most of this series he looked scared and played like he needed depends on most of the series. I loved the old Rudy the new Rudy I can do without. Spotty, streaky shooter and getting burned on defense. “I am no Roy” Yeah no kidding. Cant score if you dont shoot the ball.

 Howard should have played less minutes. Batum, Cunningham and Bayless there future looks very bright indeed. I think if we can get two centers playing for us this will be a better looking Blazer team. I cannot wait for next year. I am very excited about the upcoming years with the Blazers even though a few of the players we have now will be going to other teams.

by Baddog992 on Apr 30, 2010 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

There is a picture on O-live of the game six cap Hill put on Bayless

his eyes are closed. That is what I have long suspected. The dude needs to keep his eyes open driving the ball to the hole.

by Escrote on Apr 30, 2010 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

For the record...

I like what he brings, I just see a lot of room for growth which is probably more positive than negative.

by Escrote on Apr 30, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

McMillan.

Martell and Rudy and Bayless, that group got us back in the game both halves. I decided to go with Brandon at the point because again every time we would get close we just needed to settle down. And make sure that we had a good possession. We kinda lost our composure and either turned the ball over or had a bad possession. bq.

I know we had some bad possessions with those guys in there, but they turned the game around. When it was clear Rudy’s shot was falling, he should have stayed in the game. Brandon seemed a liability in this game. Sad Nate didn’t see it early enough. Seemed he was going to ride Brandon to a win or a loss, no matter what.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Apr 30, 2010 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Miller

I think some of you are (deservedly) overreacting to Miller’s poor game 6. The Suns played him perfectly and he looked really bad because of it. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone do what Grant Hill did. Gentry deserves major props. He put someone bigger on Andre, which takes away his strength and post game. He not only dared him to shoot but he let Hill double everyone aggressively.

That doesn’t mean Miller can’t win playoff series. I’ve never seen anyone else do it to him this well. This strategy would also not work as well if you guys were at full strength. I hope by next year, Batum is developed enough to punish any PG that tries to switch off of Andre. That was the real problem.

by mikegrand15 on Apr 30, 2010 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

When Oden is back Miller is really going to struggle. Howard, Camby, Cunningham and Aldridge all play on the perimeter, drawing their defenders away from the basket. Oden will be planted in the key and so will his 7 foot, shot-blocking defender. Miller shot 40.7% during Oct-Dec, 33 games when Pryz or Oden were the big men. Thats simply unacceptable from a PG who can’t help his true shooting PCT with 3-pointers.

In short Dre was at his WORST when the Blazers were at full strength and his BEST when most depleated.

by SerenityNow! on Apr 30, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

miller will be fine with Greg

Greg flashes to the elbow a lot, and that gigantic body of his sets a heck of a screen for dre to make his way to the cup. I think the two will work together like PB & J. Plus, Greg can roll, something LA doesn’t really do, so if the help comes on dre after the pick, its an easy pass to GO for the score

by Billy Hoyle on May 1, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe

I say maybe because right now Oden is not any threat to shoot even a wide open 15 footer so in setting that elbow pick it will leave his man camped under the hoop waiting for Miller. If Oden can start shooting (I think he can make it, hit stroke is pretty nice) those free-throw line jumpers and better the angle of attack for Miller then I’d agree…maybe.
As a further critique of Miller I would point to the numerous times the ball was swung from the post to the top to the opposite corner only to find Miller standing there unwilling/or able to hit the shot. Often that was with 5-6 seconds on the shot clock and the offense worked how it should producing an open jump-shot, but Miller would try to get inside or end up shooting a contested drive againt a waiting/rotating defender. Blake and Outlaw buried that corner 3 all day long last year. We need a PG who can spread the driving lanes and hit threes. Basically if Blake could play defense he’s a perfect complement to Roy in McMillan’s offense. Unfortunately Miller can’t defend a PG like Nash, and can’t hit 3’s with any consistancy at all.
As a side, McMillan’s offense has taken a lot of heat but fans seem to ignore that it produced an offensive efficiency rating that was in the top 3 in the entire NBA and was top 5 in Blazers history in 2008-09 (when guys were healthy and Miller wasnt here swallowing jumpers).

by SerenityNow! on May 1, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree with the miller/blake comparison

Miller was one of the biggest reasons the blazers won the first game. After the game the Suns made the proper adjustment and planned for him. Houston never had to plan specifically for Blake. If fact I would argue that the Rockets probably thought the longer Blake dribbled around with the ball, the better it was.

Any team can take one opposing player out of the game. The question for the coaching staff is: what are you going to do when that happens?

by rockman on May 1, 2010 6:03 AM PDT reply actions  

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