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Game 5 Preview: Blazers vs. Suns

Oh my!  I wasn't exactly expecting to lose that last one.

Game Time:  7:30 p.m. Pacific  TV:  KGW and TNT

We've reached a beautiful point in this playoff series.

The first four games were all about adjustments...move and counter-move...feint, thrust, and parry.  At this point both teams (and all of their fans) have seen what the other will bring to the table.  Moves will continue, but for the most part you know how the Portland Trail Blazers and Phoenix Suns will look to win.  At this juncture the series becomes like the 10th round of a 15-round prize fight.  Innovative strategies start to take a back seat to grit, determination, endurance, and which fighter will impose his will best.  The contrast in styles between these two teams highlights the battle, but no more than the similar things each must do in order to prevail:  get down the floor first, rebound, defend the interior.  This series is amazing because two completely different armies are waging war on the same small patch of turf...the three or four categories that form the high ground determining each battle.

Full disclosure:  I fully expect Phoenix to win this game.  The home court hasn't been telling in this series but emotion has.  In each case the team with the most to lose in the contest has summoned the emotion and won.  Tonight that's Phoenix.  Good news:  the next game that's Portland.  However if the Blazers DO manage to win tonight they take an enormous stride towards taking the series.  They also wrest control away from the team with the most reason for emotion and put it firmly in the grasp of whichever team is wearing red and black.  In short, the news for Portland tonight will either be not too bad or very, very good.  Winning Game 4 made that possible.

A further caution:  In case you haven't figured it out yet, losing to the Suns in a blowout isn't the end of the world.  When Phoenix plays Phoenix ball that's how they win, particularly against the Blazers.  The bright side is that Phoenix can be taken out of Phoenix ball.  When that happens they just don't win.  The question of the series is whether Portland can take Phoenix out of their game long enough and often enough.

Despite that caution, this is an interesting game because I don't know what style to expect.  A 110-106 contest wouldn't surprise me a bit.  The first game was pretty close to that but we could see the first true free-wheeling, two-offenses-clicking type game we've had.   On the other hand a really ugly game wouldn't surprise me either.  Again, you know what both of these teams want to do but you're just not sure if either will be able to do it.

Another key tonight could be foul shots for the Suns.  Being at home they need to take advantage, especially if the game is close.  In addition to the usual pick-and-roll issues I'll be interested to see how the Blazers handle interior defense, particularly if Aldridge or Camby end up in early foul trouble.  It would be better for that not to happen.

What do you anticipate?  Make your call in the comment section.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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I particularly liked this one too

and the rest are usually pretty awesome. Feel free to make ’em dirty, Dave.

"I come to you now, at the turn of the tide." -- Brandon "Gandalf" Roy, April 24th, 2010

by RedUniInLA on Apr 26, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

-1

My 6 year older is dying for blazer content to read. Would appreciate if you kept it clean.

by Stan L on Apr 26, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

We need the open chat thread today too Dave.

That may have been our lucky charm on Saturday :)

"That was NAAAAAASTY"

by luv4LMA on Apr 26, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Barkley...

I expect Sir Charles to run his mouth about how the Suns are 10x better than the Blazers, and how it’s a total embarrassment for the Blazers to be tied 2-2, and how the Blazers are stupid for allowing Roy to play, and bla bla bla bla bla…

Oh yea, and I expect the Suns to keep Richardson on Roy, which will make Richardson focus more on defense than offense. The Blazers will exploit this and then at half the Suns will move Hill or Dudley onto Roy and Andre will light up his man…Blazers win

by Brandon James Smith on Apr 26, 2010 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I expect Amare to flop every time a Blazer breathes in his direction.

The problem is the refs usually fall for his schtick. I hope I am wrong but expect 2 fouls on LA in the first 3 mins. He killed the Suns last game & they want him out.

Somebody step up! - Mike Rice

by We-B-Dunkin on Apr 26, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pheonix has a TNT curse

or maybe that’s the real conspiracy. It’s not that Stern wants the Lakers, Knicks in Celtics in every finals, it’s that Ted Turner has it out for Thunder Dan Majerle and somehow has fixed the games in the Sun’s opponents favor.

Didn’t they lose like 18 in a row on TNT?

by Pooh Richardson on Apr 26, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uh Oh.

Dave just called out the Debbie Downers!

In case you haven’t figured it out yet, losing to the Suns in a blowout isn’t the end of the world.

"If we win a title, I promise not to hate on anyone associated with the Blazers for 1 full season" - jksnake99

"...black on black. my favorite!" - portlandgiirl91

by fajunga on Apr 26, 2010 12:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Dave from Blazersedge

Predicted a loss….. It’s all good to show respect to the Suns by assuming they will win game 5 or to not set ourselves up for disappointment, but c’mon the Blazers took Game 1 without Roy in PHX. I expect nothing less than similar performances from Games 1 and 4 tonight by the Blazers.

by Gremarcus Roynandez on Apr 26, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

End of the world? No

But a most unpleasant set of circumstances? Absolutely.

Losing tonight would really put the Blazers’ backs against the wall. Not going to happen.

I started this series thinking that the Suns would win. In other words, using my mind instead of my heart. That’s all behind now. Blazers in 6, baby! It’s all about heart!

"It's Our Time":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99POVJfglY

by Storyteller on Apr 26, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

i just don't want any more injuries to the team.

is that too much to ask for?

"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.

"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.

by Tofu Anonymous on Apr 26, 2010 12:57 AM PDT reply actions  

I booked a trip to Phoenix months ago...

It’s to to see my son that now lives in Arizona. And luck has it that Portland will be playing the same day that I land. The question is, do I risk bringing my son to the game and get yelled at for the experience or do I just not bother…..

by Rip City Renegade on Apr 26, 2010 12:57 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't understand

what son wouldn’t want to go to the game? or are you worried about the Phoenix fans?

by jnewhouse on Apr 26, 2010 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Phoenix fans won't bite.

Unless of course they’ve heard about how we’ve been treating their fans up here. In which case, either fear for your life, or expect hugs. It all depends on which section they got their info from.

Look Ma! I got a rec!

by Jeremiah S on Apr 26, 2010 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ask your son if he'd like to go

and warn him that it’s going to be a hostile crowd, and you’re going into enemy territory. If you’re not prepared to receive some jeers, then don’t wear Blazer clothing.

And, just remember, it’s only a game, don’t take any of it personally. And the thrill of being at a playoff game that the Blazers might pull off, would be the biggest draw for me.

And, bring mace, just in case.

"I come to you now, at the turn of the tide." -- Brandon "Gandalf" Roy, April 24th, 2010

by RedUniInLA on Apr 26, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been to

several games in phoenix, and apart from the random drunk guy screaming, I would never say it would be a “hostile” crowd..try being a suns fan at a denver game in the pepsi center, that’s brutal.

by Ceek on Apr 26, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

you can get Blazer tickets same day

you just have to pay out the nose for them. Craigslist, stubhub, official blazers ticket exchange. Heck, if you want you can usually find seats in the first 5 rows even

by Billy Hoyle on Apr 26, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

How old is he?

Travis to Patty, "Why you sound like that?"

by Kroes32 on Apr 26, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I say bring him.

I went with a friend to game 1 and we had a lovely family in town from portland sitting next to us. We participated in some good natured ribbing with them and even though we lost, no one in the crowd was hostile to them.

by bangbang240 on Apr 26, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

pick n roll with amare

the mavs beat the suns in a playoff series a few yrs ago by letting amare score and not letting anyone else score, should we do the same? seems like they go on a roll when the other players shoot 3’s one after another, but amare in the paint the only one scoring seems safer to me.

by Jeremy Pearson on Apr 26, 2010 12:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Roy is going to score 40

and Pendy will punch Amar’e in the face

by Qreatine on Apr 26, 2010 1:00 AM PDT reply actions  

i'd rather serve amare some diener

"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.

"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.

by Tofu Anonymous on Apr 26, 2010 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Lulz.

Rec’d for wordplay.

Look Ma! I got a rec!

by Jeremiah S on Apr 26, 2010 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yawn.

If you think that’s a serious comment your reading comprehension kinda sucks.

"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview

"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread

by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope we can carry forward the energy on pick and roll defense from the last game.

Although, I took issue with Jerryd’s laziness in closing out on the open man after the pick and roll broke down.

Silver linings. Silver linings. Silver linings.

by The Pirate on Apr 26, 2010 1:02 AM PDT reply actions  

instead of howard comin in

why not put in pendy for a few fouls when amares in? you know he won’t take any of his crap.

Resident Smartass.

by Devyn on Apr 26, 2010 1:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Juwan Howard's defense is definitely suspect, however, I'm not sure even Pendergraphs intensity can match up to an offensive powerhouse like Amare.

It would be an interesting experiment, to have him frustrate Amare late in an early quarter with a decent team-foul situation.

Silver linings. Silver linings. Silver linings.

by The Pirate on Apr 26, 2010 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought at times he used some interesting tricks and he is more than capable of covering the Jarron Collins of the world providing he boxes out.

However, anything with a quick step or an active body and he becomes a liability.

Silver linings. Silver linings. Silver linings.

by The Pirate on Apr 26, 2010 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

pendy's quicker, stronger then howard

amare absolutely abuses howard like nobodys business. the only drawback is juwan has excellent range for a backup center/forward. I’d like to see howard in when collins + frye is in, and try and keep it at camby/lma/pendy when amare’s in there.

Resident Smartass.

by Devyn on Apr 26, 2010 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pendy's a second round rookie who sat out most of the season

I love him – but I want Howard’s experience in there unless we really need a spark

by tjv on Apr 26, 2010 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know who else has seen it...

But, Pendy’s got a solid jumper. He showcased it at ASU, and he’s brought it out periodically (see game 82 versus GSW).

Howard’s “experience” does us no good, if he’s getting beat. Just because he knows what to do, doesn’t mean he physically can.

Look Ma! I got a rec!

by Jeremiah S on Apr 26, 2010 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Howard knows when he's beat

And subsequently knocks the sun’s player onto the floor in a merciless manner. Pendergraph, while physical, doesn’t have that ability just yet

by tjv on Apr 26, 2010 4:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the MSP this morning

Tone was talking about all the little things Howard does to get in Amare’s head. I noticed it on Saturday and I’m glad he brought it up. He waits for just the right time and “gently” puts an elbow in Amare’s back, or laughs at him while he’s complaining to the refs. Howard’s presence is under appreciated. I think the rotation between and Marcus is good right now.

Travis to Patty, "Why you sound like that?"

by Kroes32 on Apr 26, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pedergraph would get chewed up on Amare.

He’s going to be great and soon but for now, Pendergraph and Amare shouldn’t be paired up quite yet for our sake.

I like having older players D’ing up Amare—Howard didn’t shut him down but DID frustrate him and get him to foul. If there’s one thing Amare is lacking (other than class and a cool looking pair of protective eye wear) it’s a good head on his shoulders.

by ArbyOSU on Apr 26, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd love to see pendergraph in this game too

Amare’s always throwing the first punch. Why not put a guy in solely to do the same? This is the perfect Game 5 adjustment. Showing Amare a guy who’s got nothing to lose, where Amare has nothing to gain would be perfect. Go ahead, throw an elbow Amare, Pendy would take those technical fouls with a laugh and a bloody nose.

by blazingjim on Apr 26, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you that this would be a nice, unexpected adjustment to throw at them

but it’s just not Nate’s style to make such a radical change in the lineup. He’s so conservative when it comes to changing up the rotations. I would love to see Pendergraph’s reaction though.

by blazermom on Apr 26, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think like you

Nate is about getting us to do what we do and not so much worrying about what they do. If we play good team defense Amare will, like all the Suns, have to work to get a good shot.

One timely offensive foul drawn by the veteran Howard will be better than a block.

Blunder take down the l@kers, spurs take down the mavericks, jazz take down the nuggets, Blazers take down the suns then blunder take down the jazz and bucks come out of the least = home court throughout the playoffs for the Blazers.

by lee3022 on Apr 26, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

are you a Phoenix fan?

Because the Suns are the ones getting abused by back door cuts….Nash has been finding cutters slipping the screen out of the pick and roll…..

by blacknoiseNW on Apr 26, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying there haven't been any - just saying Portland isn't getting killed by alley oops

but then, maybe I’m just blocking out those six quarters between the start of game two and first half of game 3

by blacknoiseNW on Apr 26, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Secret to beating pick n roll found in Gm4

Did everyone see it in the 4th? Use Batum on Nash and double him high with LA when he’s
got Amare. He fronts Stoudamaire to a degree but also seals the lane from Nash, who is so deadly on penetration.

Why does it / did it work? Because the switch of it is good enough to maintain defense. The problem ordinarily is Miller or Bayless or Roy or Rudy or even Marty—all of whom
except Roy have guarded Nash—can’t handle the switch on the big. Similarly, Juwan and Marcus aren’t so good at staying in front of Nash.

But notice in Game 4 Batum and LA could do both well enough to denude the pick and roll. I didn’t see an answer for it in Gm4; if the Blazers use it more and the Suns adjust are the questions. But I hope they definitely do, because it works.

by torridjoe on Apr 26, 2010 1:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Long arms

makes that defense work, especially if Camby is also in the vicinity. All those guys are quick enough and have long wingspans that cut down the passing lanes.

by hercher on Apr 26, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd also say you have to step up intensity of getting back on defense early in the game as the primary goal

All the games in the series so far point to the fact that the suns blow open leads with their transition offense, but also that if it is frustrated they inexplicably stop going for it and start going slower.

Game 1 and 4 had them not producing in transition early and often, and resulted in them, by the 4th quarter, almost never pushing the tempo even with Gentry desperately trying to get them to. Game 2 and 3 had them succesful early on pushing that tempo and throughout.

I mean it sure is easy to say “slow the game down”, but the real key is use up some of that energy early on and reap the rewards later. It may seem counterintuitive, but all 4 of these games have been decided in the first quarter just as much as the fourth. When the blazers stay in the game and competitive, the suns lose something they never seem able to gain back.

"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez

by TheGreatMon on Apr 26, 2010 1:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Well said.

It really has been the 1st quarter that the Blazers began to lose games 3 and 4.

"I come to you now, at the turn of the tide." -- Brandon "Gandalf" Roy, April 24th, 2010

by RedUniInLA on Apr 26, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Correction

games 2 & 3. Me need coffee.

"I come to you now, at the turn of the tide." -- Brandon "Gandalf" Roy, April 24th, 2010

by RedUniInLA on Apr 26, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think one key to that is getting the Blazer offense in the paint

When the Blazers shoot in the paint it seems to draw the Suns players in on defense, making it harder for them to run on offense because they have farther to go. Shooting jumpers, as the Blazers did in games 2 and 3 feeds into the Sun’s running strength.

Look to see if having Roy helps the offense penetrate the key. If that happens then we’ll likely see a game at the Blazer’s pace, if not we’ll likely see a Suns blowout.

by LaughingJon on Apr 26, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

The series is like a microcosm of the season. Game to game I just don't know what to expect rationally ..

.. so now on the edge of my seat with fingers crossed I’m just going to be a fan. Go Blazers! Game ON!

by jayfisher on Apr 26, 2010 1:52 AM PDT reply actions  

agreed

this is pretty much where I’m at, although it is fun to predict what might/will/should happen

by Billy Hoyle on Apr 26, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blazers decide to run

Beat the Suns at their own game by 14.

by meatwad3 on Apr 26, 2010 2:26 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't like that idea very much

The running part that is — I would like winning by 14 very much

by tjv on Apr 26, 2010 4:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

agree

Phoenix is the best at scoring in an open game. Even their 3-pt percentage goes up when they run.

by blacknoiseNW on Apr 26, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have a 7-9 class :(

Do I record the game and watch it when i get home OR race home and catch the end on the radio.

by ODEN on a stick on Apr 26, 2010 3:02 AM PDT reply actions  

record it and still race home...

how fun listening to it on the radio! not.

loveisrespect

by portlandgiirl91 on Apr 26, 2010 4:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Record. Maintain radio silence so no one spoils it.

And then fly through the commercials and the half time “show” once you get home.

Don’t run any yellows.

"I come to you now, at the turn of the tide." -- Brandon "Gandalf" Roy, April 24th, 2010

by RedUniInLA on Apr 26, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

this

When I have to record a game and watch it delayed, I won’t even check my texts for fear of a spoiler. Hardcore

by Billy Hoyle on Apr 26, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Skip class.

If your professor’s priorities are in the right place, he or she will understand.

by hercher on Apr 26, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

He travelled to Phoenix and was reportedly feeling better so hopefully not

Nicolas Batum AKA Mr. Third Quarter
On Josh Smith "He's strong as a 2nd curtain"
On Lebron "...it's hype, he's not a defender"
On Aaron Brooks "He's tiny, he has a small body but he's super fast and has a real gesture"
On Steve Nash "First we'll have to try and stop this Canadian guard, a young kid with a bright future!"
On Defense "They all piss me off with Dwight Howard...Guys like Bruce Bowen or Ron Artest were legit defensive men of the year. For me that's the profile of a denfender.
On The Playoffs "I don't want Dallas to win because I don't want Rodrigue to be NBA champion, I would be pissed. I don't want him to be NBA champion in his 1st year, this bastard....I put myself in mode asshole!"

by MadBlaze on Apr 26, 2010 4:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are your quotes of Batum legit?

Or just funny things you’ve imagined he’d say?

"I come to you now, at the turn of the tide." -- Brandon "Gandalf" Roy, April 24th, 2010

by RedUniInLA on Apr 26, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

they're real, from a loose translation of Nic's blog

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

"We've reached a beautiful point in this playoff series. "

That’s right Dude. They’re a bunch of -—— amatures.

"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change." -- Darwin

by Y5k on Apr 26, 2010 4:36 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

But...

We’re calmer than you are.

"The Nash abides."
I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that.
It's good to know he's out there, The Nash, taking 'er easy for all us sinners.

by RMason on Apr 26, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't Agree 100%

The return of Roy provides a dynamic that has not gone through the maturation process described in the first paragraph. There are opportunities for both teams to make adjustments but, given the quality of Roy (even at 80%), the advantage goes to Portland given how big of an upgrade this is over Rudy. There are new plays and wrinkles for Nate to use.

That said, I agree the biggest determiner will be grit, determination and endurance.

Go Blazers!

by whopper55 on Apr 26, 2010 4:46 AM PDT reply actions  

You raise a good point.

I think Roy has thrown an unknown bait into the lake and we still don’t know how Phoenix will adjust. There is no doubt in my mind that Gentry’s coaching staff has been searching for an answer between the last game and this game in how to adjust both offensively and defensively when Roy is on the floor.

Throw in the factor that Roy will have a bit more of his legs tonight, and this should be an interesting contest. I’m not willing to go as far as Dave and say Phoenix will win outright. I think this match is dead even tonight.

by hotstuffdb22 on Apr 26, 2010 4:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Confused/Ashamed

What is it with Dave not having any faith in the Blazer’s winning game 5? Dave, do you not fully understand what Roy’s overall game brings to the table? Do you not understand how PHX has to adjust for Roy’s presence? I demand the leader of this board to have 100% support in the Blazers ability to win. Overthrow Dave! Replace him with someone who believes!

by Gremarcus Roynandez on Apr 26, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Suns

Are likely to make Roy play D early to test his knee and see how the Blazers react, if they double or not.
unless Roy feels a little better than 80%, I’m thinking start Jerryd again.

"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks

by DucRider on Apr 26, 2010 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I say this will be the most ugly game we have seen

I also think there will be a suspension as a result from tonights game along with an injury(minor) from a dirty play by a Suns player.

OMG I just jizzed in my France
OMGrandpa

by sug on Apr 26, 2010 6:22 AM PDT reply actions  

and the Blazers are the KING of ugly!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.

by jenstcy on Apr 26, 2010 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

This

When it’s ugly ball, it’s Blazers ball.

"A win is never ugly" Nate McMillan

by rise_stand_resist on Apr 26, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Go Blazers

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2010 6:24 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I hope I'm not jinxing.....

but the game is on TNT tonight…. and we know how the Blazers play on TNT and we know how the Suns play on TNT………….

Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.

by jenstcy on Apr 26, 2010 7:04 AM PDT reply actions  

I expect a win

I always expect a win.
Trailblazers: butterfaces of the NBA?

by BlazerFann4Life on Apr 26, 2010 7:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Huh?

I got the reference, but not really.

"I come to you now, at the turn of the tide." -- Brandon "Gandalf" Roy, April 24th, 2010

by RedUniInLA on Apr 26, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is a game that you just mite see miller go off again

either roy or bayless helps lessen the automatic doubles on andre. bayless should have open driving lanes anytime he is paired with miller

by utahcoyote on Apr 26, 2010 7:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Team's mental state and the support of fans are the most important factor(Suns-fan here, again)

I don’t want to overrate the mental stuff, but like this years western-conference where every team is capable and does not have obvious advantage to one another, team’s mentality becomes the most important factor. I see this series that way from game1 through game 4.

Because of that, it might sound funny but If the Blazer’s had the home-court advantage, The Suns were probably ahead 3-1 at this point, just like the Spurs.

The magical return of Roy in one of the most dramatic fashion in playoff history, boosted team’s mentality and the Rose Garden, rode Blazer’s to definite win in game4, but it can’t and shouldn’t carry over the Purple Palace with the Suns team in a must-win mentality. I will be surprised if the suns can’t win by 10pts or more in this game.

The series will be up to the Blazers,
if they can win game 6 at the Rose Garden.

Then,
 it is anybody’s game !!!

p.s.
oh, by the way, if Nate selected that theme song from “Rocky”,
he should be the Playoffs coach of the year. That was unbelievable!

by enjoynash on Apr 26, 2010 7:59 AM PDT reply actions  

And as long as Roy is even on the floor he attracts attention

Game 4 is evidence. Roy hardly did anything but the Suns had to keep somebody on him which took the guys off LMA. I say we ought to keep bringing Roy off the bench in situations where we need LMA to get hot, because having Roy on the floor does that.

"A win is never ugly" Nate McMillan

by rise_stand_resist on Apr 26, 2010 8:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Now that we have Roy back...

can we now take advantage of the fact that Nash can’t guard a tissue?? Match-up problems for the Suns!!!

Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.

by jenstcy on Apr 26, 2010 8:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Different read on emotions

This got me thinking:

The home court hasn’t been telling in this series but emotion has. In each case the team with the most to lose in the contest has summoned the emotion and won. Tonight that’s Phoenix.

I agree that emotion and energy have been huge in this series, but I’m not sure that the team with the most to lose has won each game. In particular, it’s not clear to me who had more to lose in game 1 or game 3. A case can be made that the home team in those two games had more to lose—since losing meant relinquishing home-court advantage. On the other hand, game 2 and game 4 were classic bounce-back games and it did seem that the more desperate team won. But, with the series tied 2-2, I don’t see how Phoenix has more to lose than the Blazers. In my view, this game is of equal importance to both teams. For both teams, losing means needing to win both of the remaining games, once on the opponent’s home court.

The other emotion at play is anxiety/nervousness. I thought the Suns played very tight in the first game as did the Blazers in the third. It’s hard to play basketball when you are too excited—when there is too much adrenaline flowing through your body. While it is true that these guys are professional athletes and have a ton of experience in pressure situations, the playoffs add an additional element of pressure. So, to me the question is who thrives under that pressure and who cracks. It is a battle of wills, but part of that battle is remaining composed. It’s nice to have Roy back because he seems like a guy that thrives under pressure. Unfortunately, he’s still probably not healthy enough to win it himself.

Of course, it’s not all about emotion. It’s certainly possible that both teams play with determination or that both teams get the yips. Skill and strategy also matter. In both, I give the Suns an slight edge. They have more weapons on offense and a deeper bench. So, all things considered, I think either team could win, but it’s more likely that the Suns do.

by PoliSam on Apr 26, 2010 8:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Mentality

I think its more about individual mentality summing up to team’s mentality which includes will, determination, endurance, control of emotions, overcoming pressure and so on. The Blazers should be much better with their best clutch (mentally strong) player, Roy, coming back.

game1
suns took the Blazers without Roy, lighter than they should, because they were dominant against season-ending games against Denver and Utah. It was too much to overcome well-planned and executed play of Blazers.

game2
suns in “can’t lose 2 games at home”-mode. game1 has waken them up to take this series with absolute-sincerity. Blazers in state of shock to experience Suns dominance, not much of their known offense but more of unexpected great defense.

game3
It would have been easier if they have just “admitted” suns great defense after game2, but its not easy, just like the rest of the critics around the league. It will jeopardize your credibility. And the defense was not there for just one night. Blazers continued in shocking status, taken out of the game mentally and shoots under 40% by the half in both games. It should have been too much to overcome unless something miraculous happens…

game4
Miraculous happened with Roy coming back in dramatic fashion ever. Rose the Rose Garden and spirit of the team highest ever! absolutely came out of shock-status and started believing once again. Impossible for Suns to overcome that emotional big waves of fans and the determination of the Blazers team. Definite win for the Blazers.

game5
prediction done on previous post.
But, although Suns defense will be there again, they won’t be shocked anymore at this point, because they know Suns defense by experience now, and that game 4 was crucial in a sense that they know they can overcome that. If it was not for that miraculous comeback presence of Roy in home-game4, Suns would have won game 4 & 5.

well,
It’s turning into great series.

by enjoynash on Apr 26, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great post. And I think you are right. Was thinking it was more a back against the wall

thing with each teams’ wins. The team that was about to get into an untenable position seems to have tried harder. Blazers HAVE to win at least one game in Phx…do so and relax. Phoenix can’t lose two games at home..so they tried more…. Blazers don’t have to win game 3 so don’t try as hard…Blazers have to win game 4 so do….So game 5…really both teams don’t have backs against the wall except stat wise..the winner of game 5 goes on to win the series in some very high % of times…

I like your take. Never really considered the Blazers not taking Phx defense seriously. Esp after game 2. I don’t think Phx’s defense is great at all but they were able to concentrate on only 2 players basically so hey…pretty easy!!!
Game 5..I hope LMA continues to know not to make stupid fouls. He said he did this out of frustration in games 2 and 3. If LMA and Camby stay out of foul trouble I think the Blazers will be fine!

by Natsthecat on Apr 26, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

More adjustments

I don’t agree with you Dave that there are no more adjustments to make.

I’ve stated before that the blazers, and the rest of the league, don’t handle the near mid court pinch of the point very well. The Blazers did better last game when they went to letting Batum bring it up occasionally, that threw off the Phx game plan, and the blazers got more stops on defense which didn’t allow Phx to set up this kind of defense on the transition.

But on made baskets the blazers could try passing the ball into the front court instead of dribbling: put Batum or Roy or Webster near halfway into the back court and feint an inbound pass to Miller and instead pass to Batum. Batum could then pass it to Camby who would be between the top of the key and midcourt.

by 7677maniac on Apr 26, 2010 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Blazers have played well on the road all season

They seem to rise to the occasion on the road, probably the hostile environment helps them focus, and they feel a little less pressure away from the Rose Garden where us fans are so die hard and emotional. Plus its a national game on TNT, which has lead to mostly wins on the season. This recipe of being on the road in a game 5 on national television is hopefully one that will bring a lot of focus for this young(ish) Blazer team. Hopefully we win.

by goblazer1 on Apr 26, 2010 8:30 AM PDT reply actions  

If the Blazers believe they are done adjusting

they will lose. The only way to slow down Nash’s pick and roll is to change the look consistently. Notice they figured out our “overload” technique after the first game, and slaughtered us in games two and three. Then we came back with a trapping defense, which confused Nash a bit and got us the win. Nash will know that’s coming if we run it again, so we better have some wrinkles prepared.

I would like to see us use one defense against the pick and roll for three quarters, then adjust in the fourth to something wacky and try to throw them off.

by atomiccafe on Apr 26, 2010 9:00 AM PDT reply actions  

There will be more adjustments with Roy back

It will be interesting tonight to see if the Suns have been making adjustment to deal with Roy and how much. It would seem kind of hard to tell exactly how much of a factor he will be tonight, so how much do you key your defense to him? How much can you possibly come up with and install effectively in a day anyway? Maybe a lot, I don’t really know.
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What are their options tonight? Can they rush and double both Miller and Roy effectively? Do they look to Richardson or Barbosa and say, “your job is defense tonight” ? I think if we play of defense with effort, we have a pretty good formula for success. I don’t know what defensive tricks the Suns have… it seems like they are a team keyed entirely by their offense. But to me, when watching the games, defensive effort seems to be what sticks out to me as the difference in our performances, and its making shots for them. Tonight they need to come up with something new on defense.

by BlazerFann4Life on Apr 26, 2010 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Amare

will be used more consistently in the half court set. Look for their defense to be more physical (remember in the NBA when in doubt about skill mug somebody).

by 7677maniac on Apr 26, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I win would be ever so nice

Lets hope “our boys” win this on with their game faces on.

by tominhawaii on Apr 26, 2010 9:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes....good play is advisable

Phil Mickelson: "A Great shot is when you pull it off.....a smart shot is when you don't have the guts to try it"’

by 92wastheyear on Apr 26, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

You stat-heads slay me

Phil Mickelson: "A Great shot is when you pull it off.....a smart shot is when you don't have the guts to try it"’

by 92wastheyear on Apr 26, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I also think the Blazers have more to lose tonight

I don’t think Game 7 is a toss up game. Its a home game for them. Its harder to win then Game 5, which is harder to win then Games 1 or 2. Everygame in the playoffs should be approached as a must win anyway. I would also wait to see the game start before deciding on the emotional states of either team, and as such I couldn’t predict a win or loss based on emotion. I would however give the Suns the edge for home court.

by BlazerFann4Life on Apr 26, 2010 9:10 AM PDT reply actions  

I see this as a must win.

Game 6 follows 2 days off. The Blazers record with 2 or more days off is not very good (about .500, maybe slightly under). Plus, the advantage of having 2 shots at closing out the series is huge.

I don’t mind necessarily going to game 7, though. I think the Suns will be tighter than Portland, because the expectation is higher.

As an aside, I haven’t heard much about Roy following the game. Any word on how his knee felt yesterday?

by hercher on Apr 26, 2010 9:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Supposedly it felt fine

He still may come in off the bench

Phil Mickelson: "A Great shot is when you pull it off.....a smart shot is when you don't have the guts to try it"’

by 92wastheyear on Apr 26, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

One thing I am liking

is how dimissive of us the players and coaching staff of the Suns have been all series. I considered it could be contrived, but now I am starting to think they really have no respect for us. Tsun Tsu says “know your enemy and yourself”.
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Also, if you want to talk desperation, The Suns should lose tonight. If they really play better when desperate, as they say, this isn’t the right game to feel that way. That would be Game 6, in our house, after a Blazer win tonight. The game tonight, by conventional accounts, should be an easy win for the Suns. No where near desperate for them.

by BlazerFann4Life on Apr 26, 2010 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

I dont think

this is quite true, they may have said that your fans don’t have an impact on the game, but that’s exactly what they’re supposed to say, they’re professionals, the “home court advantage” on a professional sports level is not supposed to exist. They know about the RG fans, and they know you’re really freakin loud, I’d say if anyone in the NBA is subject to home court advantage, it’d be the refs, they seem to be influenced the most by the crowd. Them or the home team…either way, the suns organization is well aware of the effect you maniacs have on a game.

by Ceek on Apr 26, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blazers in 6, Stop the negative thoughts dude.

Haven’t you heard? Roy is BACK.
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Blazers smell the win. Miller, Roy, Bayless… drive, drive, drive to the hoop. FTs + Aldridge open for the J.

All the pressure is ON Phoenix. You know who is soft… Phoenix! Who do they have in the middle – Collins. Who is going to play D on 3 slashing PGs?

There was a point in the last game… Roy, Miller, Bayless, Webster, and Aldridge. Anyone remember that?

Blazers win this in a nail biter. Stop the negative thoughts dude.

I’m all in on the Blazers.
Bring home the series on the Pdx court.

by JayBlazerFan on Apr 26, 2010 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Let's do this

Game 6 in our house while we’re up 3-2? That would be lovely and I do hope it happens. Nothing would say “thank you” to the fans more than a Round 1 playoff series win at home.

Let’s go Blazers!

by Jackattak on Apr 26, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Check out Seth's graphs over at BSoTS

number crunching can be dangerous due to unlimited interpretation, but what sticks out to me is the relative offensive consistency & inconsistency of the Blazers & Suns, respectively. Basically, when the Blazers decide to show up, they have a legitimate impact on Phoenix’s output.

Season: 2 in phx, 1 in pdx, blazers win 2-1
Now: 2 in phx, 1 in pdx, ???
Irony: 1 road win in season W/O BRoy. Hope that outcome is different!

Dave, why is that every other site has preview/postgame with a bunch of homer crap in between & no REAL objective analysis?
Good Job, always!

Go Blazers.

by OCSteve on Apr 26, 2010 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

I wouldn't be surprised

at anything at this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if you guys win tonight and then phoenix wins in portland, and then both teams get ejected in game 7 and the dallas cowboys play round two against the spurs…well maybe then i’d be surprised. This series has been nothing short of phenomenal to watch, I expect more of the same. Good luck tonight (I don’t really mean it), man I’m on the edge of my seat for this!

by Ceek on Apr 26, 2010 10:29 AM PDT reply actions  

thanks!

I like it here. if you guys win the series i think i might stay a bit and help “educate” the spurs and mavs about the blazers :)

by Ceek on Apr 26, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

To me it comes down to one thing.

Aldridge scores 20+, we win.
Anything under 20… Blazers in 7. ;)

In all seriousness, I really do think whether his shot is falling
will determine tonight’s outcome.

Also, we HAVE TO have one of our middle-tier guys have a
big night offensively, either now or game 7.

                                Martell, Rudy, Rex.
         Now’s your time, gentlemen. Spotlight’s calling.
         Yes, you’re all young. But if you want to make a
         name for yourselves, do it now. You have no
         guarantees at a better chance than this one.

Dominic's Fridge is where great fudge bars go to die.

by The Orange Joe on Apr 26, 2010 10:40 AM PDT reply actions  

You're right on those 3

Martell’s had the best series with energy, but one of them needs a good offensive performance.

Another thing to think about: Yes, he’s only at 10 days from the surgery now, but the organization & the fans have not yet had the chance to see Brandon Roy in a closing situation. This is as close as they have had, with game 6 being at home. It could be telling.

by OCSteve on Apr 26, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Andre hasn't had a monster outing since Game 1.

I think he’s due for another.

Travis to Patty, "Why you sound like that?"

by Kroes32 on Apr 26, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

TNT vs. KGW?

Which one is more cursed/stronger?

"OK Kids! Who wants a basketball? That's why I love my Chevy Silverado."

by RecordTOs on Apr 26, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

It's about the commentary

The local broadcasts give a more in-depth close to home perspective. I like to watch the national broadcasts any chance I get, to hear what they say, either way.

As far as the game, it seems the Blazers (Roy in particular) are historically good on TNT. Not so much on ABC/ESPN-not that that really means anything

by OCSteve on Apr 26, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

We do seem a lot better on TNT

I usually tune into home broadcasts until the 1st quarter’s over, simply because I hate that national broadcasts cut into games and such with commercials.

But I’m with you on hearing what national broadcasters say about us.

What did the TNT guys say when Roy entered the game? I missed it.

"OK Kids! Who wants a basketball? That's why I love my Chevy Silverado."

by RecordTOs on Apr 26, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

essentially the same as Barrett

just less of a home feel. I’ve seen the utube video of the kgw broadcast when Roy got up. The video was about the same but I think TNTs audio (crowd noise, music & national perspective) gave a more dramatic feel of what was going on in the arena. I actually expected them to be more indifferent to it.

by OCSteve on Apr 26, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's with Dave throwing this game?

Dave’s attitude is exactly the one I’m worried the Blazers will have—let’s take a break and win games 6 and 7. I’m sorry, but the Suns WILL win a close one in this series—mark my words. I’d rather it be Game 5 then 6 or 7. Put it all on the line tonight, Blazers! No more blow outs!

by blazingjim on Apr 26, 2010 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I have no idea what's going to happen

My best guess is we’re down 10 at the end of the first and we spend the rest of the night playing catch-up. Our best bet, imo, is to take the air completely out of the ball with the first unit, and run and gun with the second unit. Rip City and oogaboogaoogabooga!! You know why!!

by Chris-8ally on Apr 26, 2010 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

“What do you anticipate?”

I have no idea. Could be another game 3, could be another game 4, could be something brand new like a good competitive game but where Phoenix wins by a few points.

One thing I do know is that we were indeed lucky not to get Utah in the first round. Key players out, no problem, Sloan can put anyone he’s got out on the court and get them to play world-class ball.

At some point the voters ought to consider finally giving the guy a coach of the year award.

by lsjogren on Apr 26, 2010 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

he's difficult to like

his numbers are extraordinary, but for some reason I can’t help but dislike that guy…it’s just hit face..I just want to plant one right in his suck hole.

by Ceek on Apr 26, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

“We do seem a lot better on TNT "

Maybe it’s because TNT games motivate the Blazers to posterize Barkley.

by lsjogren on Apr 26, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

The Numbers

are with the Blazers, winning odd # games on the road and even # at home.
1 and 5 at phx.
4 and 6 at the RG…
done, 4-2 Blazers.
and thanks to my boss – I get to go to game 6 – woo hoo.

"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks

by DucRider on Apr 26, 2010 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

nice

feel free to keep the crowd down and not yell so much :)

by Ceek on Apr 26, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll have to be somewhat careful

since this is a business group and i won’t be able to fully express myself, but the beer if free, so you never know.

"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks

by DucRider on Apr 26, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

what kind of beer

do you pacific northwesterners prefer? I spent a lot of time at ft. lewis and we drank olympia, I think that was it..

by Ceek on Apr 26, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too many to list

We don’t call Portland “Beer Town” for nothin’. :) Most microbreweries in the world, per capita (including Germany).

by Jackattak on Apr 26, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

The factor that is so unpredictable to me is simply

SHOOTING…. These guys are scorers, and we are can be too. The defenses should be good, but someone will get shots, when Richardson and Nash can’t miss, we got problems. If Dre, Martell, LMA, and Brandon hit what they hit, plus Camby’s and Howard even start hitting their shots, that really helps. Of course a big part of it is gettin good looks and taking the shot you like. We can, and better do all the other stuff of defending, rebounding, running, moving the ball, but I hope to see the good guys shots dropping, please. It is so frustrating to work in, get the layup, AND MISS !! Points will be needed.
Each game now is so obviously critical, after today each game is elimination, who wins this is off that hot seat.
Fun stuff.

"You be realistic," Oden said. "I’m going to stay happy. All right?"

by Berkeley on Apr 26, 2010 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

It will be very interesting to see if the Blazers will weather the first quarter Suns storm

We stopped them in game four, first quarter. They can start strong, we should be ready to match that. A close first quarter will be a good sign.

"You be realistic," Oden said. "I’m going to stay happy. All right?"

by Berkeley on Apr 26, 2010 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

The longer we keep it close.

The tighter they will get on their 3 ptrs. Close in 4th Qtr = Blazers win.

Somebody step up! - Mike Rice

by We-B-Dunkin on Apr 26, 2010 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

A question ?

Are the Suns “front runners”. They have been great with a nice lead, dropping unneeded shots with reckless abandon. But if we can keep it close, will that have a noticeable impact on their game. Not sure, but so far, we have won the close ones.

"You be realistic," Oden said. "I’m going to stay happy. All right?"

by Berkeley on Apr 26, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

More than front-runners

I’d say the Suns in general have to be comfortable in order to prosper. When Portland gets into them they start into Amare-or-Jumper mode which is not a sustainable model. They also need to run out. When the Blazers get back well Phoenix looks much weaker. I’d say it’s not being close that rattles them, it’s them getting rattled that keeps the game close. However anyone who doubts they’re a good team should note that even rattled they still stay close to Portland, whereas when Portland gets out of their game the Suns blow them away.

The Suns’ series may well come down to one question: can they win one of these close games? It’s a big issue for Portland. So far Phoenix appears to have a chance in games that Portland controls. The Blazers have not had that same chance in games that Phoenix controls.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 26, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Game 5

Hey Dave,

I am not quite sure what to expect to be honest…I mean if Portland where to WIN it would not surprise me at all, at the same time if we were to see a REPEAT of games 2 and 3 it would not surprise me either. In saying that, I would anticipate this game to come down to the wire with it being a back and forth battle. What i would LOVE to see, is my boy Jeff P. get into the game and use some of his craziness on Amare! Never the less, GO BLAZERS!

by jscheidler on Apr 26, 2010 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Suns to attack Roy

I expect the Suns to attack Roy and see how well he can defend. I’m curious about that myself.

by tiesque on Apr 26, 2010 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

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