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Game 4 Preview: Suns vs. Blazers

Game Time:  1:30 p.m. Pacific, Saturday  TV:  KGW and TNT

Yes, this is up early.  Normally it would come around midnight Friday and take you through Saturday.  But I sense we need a little forward direction after last night's drubbing.  The Blazers can't spend all day thinking about the last game.  They need to focus on the next one.  So shall we.

Right off the bat you need to go back to the Game 3 adjustments here and ask yourself how many Portland was able to make successfully.  Zero?  Pretty close.  Those are still the starting point.  But there are a couple adjustments specific to this game, based on how the Blazers have been getting beaten and the fact that time to experiment is slipping away.

Anyone who's ever read me knows I'm not a knee-jerk guy.  As such when other people are suggesting lineup changes I usually focus on other areas.  It's not a video game.  You don't get predictable, let alone the expected, results by changing Players X and Y.  It's also a move that gets old fast.  Whipping people in and out of the starting lineup every time something goes wrong makes everyone involved look (and feel) sub-par at best, confused at worst.  That said, it's time for a lineup change now.

We're probably going to get one by default as Nicolas Batum is not up to par.  I'll be delighted if he can go but if he's not 100% he should not be in the starting lineup.  He can play situational minutes off of the bench and test his effectiveness.  There's nothing worse than thinking you have a guy watching your back as a starter and then finding you have to compensate for him when you actually get out there.   At this point I want players with three qualities:  healthy enough to play, wants to play, willing to do whatever it takes to play. Martell Webster really got after it once the storm passed in the last game. Martell fits the bill more than Nic.  He shiould start.

That's not all.  It's time to flip-flop Jerryd Bayless and Rudy Fernandez.  Again, if you've read me for more than 10 seconds you know I'm not a Team Jerryd OR Team Rudy guy.  Realistically both are more popular than productive.  Part of Portland's issue is that it has to start either.  But this is where we are.  Right here, right now BOTH of themare my guys and I'm depending on each.  Rudy has disappointed so far.  Jerryd has shown more life and more of that "healthy/wants to/willing to" attitude than Rudy has.  Even so I wouldn't be suggesting this if Phoenix wasn't having success thwarting Andre Miller with a bigger defender.  Their license comes from Steve Nash being able to guard someone besides 'Dre.  So far that's been Rudy.  Rudy has not made him pay.  If Nash is not going to defend Miller I want him to have to deal with Bayless.   At that point my offensive instructions are simple:  whoever Steve is guarding gets the ball and goes at the rim.

Heretofore the caution against such a move has been defense on Jason Richardson.  But how effective have the Blazers been in stopping him with Rudy out there?  Jerryd is at least strong and mobile.  J-Rich or whoever Jerryd ends up guarding will probably try to post or shoot over him.  If it's a post you send help and pray that whatever passes Phoenix makes end up in a jumper over the top.  If they just shoot over the top of Bayless you already have your wish.

Despite the blowouts the Blazer defense, provided they hustle back, can make a stand.  The offense is killing Portland.  Its lack of production is draining their life and energy.  We haven't been making Phoenix think at ALL defensively.  This move is an attempt to change that.  

I also instruct Webster, Bayless, and Fernandez that their job is to be aggressive and provide points.  I want Martell shooting first and thinking later.  I want Bayless attacking.  I'm taking Rudy to the bench specifically so I can tell him that when I put him in that means I want  him in.  I want him to be aggressive, to search for steals, to run the floor, to be Rudy.  I'll pull him when I've had enough Rudy.  I'll pull him quicker if he doesn't give me any Rudy at all.  I do all of this because it is the key to freeing up the more traditional scorers--Aldridge and Miller--whom the Suns have been free to bother.  I need all of them clicking in order to win.  It's obvious that without Roy the main guys won't click unless the secondary guys are doing damage.

The other main adjustment is spending far more time creating opportunities on defense and far less time in No-Man's Land.  I sincerely hope that I have seen my last slow close-out on a Phoenix jump-shooter in this series.  Defend the rim, defend a man, rebound, or run out.  Those are your four options.  If you can close out aggressively and bother a jump-shooter you should do it.  But if Phoenix whips a pass around and someone is lining up for three and you can't get there, for Pete's sake don't take three lazy steps out, half put your arm up, then stand and watch the shot.  Either let them shoot and help get the rebound or just run out!  Half the time they're going to miss those long shots, even open.  Cherry-picking would be better than standing four feet away from any possible action.

The same thing applies in transition.  You are either at one rim scoring or the other rim defending.  The turf in the middle is, as we used to say as kids, poison peanut butter.  If you don't get out of it quickly you'll die.  Or, in this case, your team will.

Rebound.  Rebound.  Rebound.   This series is being lost on the boards.  (Both this and the transition effort are hold-overs from Game 3 but they're the most important ones so I brought them across the link.)

Finally, the Blazers hit on something important in the second half of Game 3.  They got angry.  They got their dander up.  They started laying the lumber on the Suns a little.  Along with the rebounding one of the great shames of this series so far is that Phoenix has been the physically aggressive team.  That, my friends, is like being pushed around by Gilligan and the cast of The Big Bang Theory.   It should...not...happen.  This series needs to be shaken up.  The environment needs to change.  The Suns need to earn what they're getting.  If that's another win they need to come through it bruised and knowing they've been in a war.  Part of the reason I want Martell and Jerryd playing more is that they seem to understand this.  Juwan Howard understands it.  I think Camby and Miller understand it.  The other guys better pick it up.  You do whatever you have to in order to make Phoenix uncomfortable.

There are certain things I don't want to hear.  Ben was at the Blazers' practice today, as you can see below.  Two of the things that were discussed were the NBA's reaction to Amare Stoudemire's elbow last night and the fan reaction to the game.  Hopefully(!) this was just cover for the real agenda of the day because they can't let their adjustments slip to the media.  But to the extent the Blazers, LaMarcus Aldridge, or anyone associated with the team are talking about those things the message is simple:  Knock it off.  If that's what you're really worried about you might as well just hand Phoenix the game and series and save us all the trouble of watching the misery.  It's not time to whine about elbows, to look for help from the league, to complain about the refs, to think about the crowd booing, or to concentrate on anything but you just got your butts kicked, the opponent was laughing at you openly in the middle of the game like you were kindergarteners playing against men, and you still have a chance to wipe that smirk off of their faces by taking this series or at least staying alive to fight in another home game.  If your mind is focused anywhere else besides doing everything you can to win the next game you do not belong on this team and probably not in this league.  This is the playoffs.  Winning matters.  Block everything else out.

If you've done that and you still come up short, so be it.  Everyone can accept that the Suns are a better team at that point.  We'll even come to your rescue by pointing out that with three of your top five players missing winning the series would have been a reach.  But that's AFTER we're done.  If you start thinking and talking like you've already lost when there are games left to play nobody is going to have mercy on you.  If we don't see you at your best in this situation--a relative best, to be sure, but 100% of what you could be on that day no matter what--why should anybody care about you or what you do?  This is the time when real NBA players step up.  Hit that jumper.  Run that break.  Get back on defense.  Club anybody who tries to get free at your rim in your house.  Make Portland Trail Blazers basketball stand for all of those things.  You don't get a ton of opportunities in life to define yourselves in an obvious, critical way.  Most people only realize they have defined themselves after the fact, looking back on what they did and how they handled things.  You know this is coming.  You know what it is.  You know what it means.   Offer no explanations before.  Offer no excuses after.    Go out there and do something that you, your teammates, and everybody who sees you can be proud of. 

If the Blazers can manage that, they're probably going to win this game.  If not they've already lost it. 

We'll see what happens tomorrow.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Well Said...

Someone should email this to all the players…

by blazer_tk on Apr 23, 2010 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

in the words of commander peter quincey tiggart

“never give up! never surrender”

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
1 down, 15 to go
come back brandon
never give up, never surrender

by thomasikehara on Apr 23, 2010 2:51 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

one of the best movies ever

Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.

by Alex Laugan on Apr 24, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Defense and rebounding

Both have to improve for the blazers to have a shot in this series. Get stops, and the offense will improve. It all needs to start defensively.

Where's Rudolfo?

by Rudiculous on Apr 23, 2010 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

we also need to calm down, get open, and hit shots

because so much of the Phoenix offense starts off of misses. I don’t understand how they are bullying us down low, either. We should have 872349871 more dunks, offensive rebounds, putbacks on them.

by Chadillac5000 on Apr 23, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

When the Blazers went on the "Rudy-led run," you could see the Suns crumble.

I was at the game last night, and when Rudy was hitting those 3’s and Blazers took control even for the shortest time, I could see how quickly the Suns became rattled. They began turning over the ball and Amare started to get visibly frustrated. The assertiveness on our end made such a difference, they just need to play like that for 48 minutes.

"That was NAAAAAASTY"

by luv4LMA on Apr 23, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Nick is not ready to go

I would seriously consider starting Dante in his place, and move Martell to shooting guard. I think Martell is fast enough and big enough to stay with Richardson. We need Bayless to backup Andre, and Rudy could come in and provide some offense and floor spacing for the second unit.

by NicBatumFan on Apr 23, 2010 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

need more dribble drive thread on offense

to help free the game up for Andre. Bayless is the man for that job, not Webster, IMO. But start Bayless and Marty, bench Juwan and give his minutes to Dante certainly seems to be called for.

by greyhound9 on Apr 23, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I see your point but

what about stopping Richardson? Is Andre up to the task, since it would be Bayless on Nash?

by NicBatumFan on Apr 23, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot to mention Dante

but I would also put him in for more minutes simply because he does want to play and is showing it.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 23, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's also physical, and the Suns really aren't

If you can’t out-finesse ’em, you can try out-toughing ’em. The next team the Suns face will probably succeed with that approach.

We haven’t really even seen “playoff basketball” yet in this series. But if you check out the other series, you can see plenty of it going on, and, as always, it’s ultra-physical. I don’t really like it; it resembles sumo wrestling as much as it does basketball. But that’s the NBA post-season; always has been and probably always will be.

I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.

by hurryup09 on Apr 23, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with that

You put Webster at the 2 and Nash has to guard Miller.

by Kaanyr Vhok on Apr 24, 2010 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dang man. That was kind of fantastic.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Apr 23, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

media: Nate, why was this another blowout loss?

NM: Well I thought we started off stagnant. We tried to do some things but guys just didn’t play with the scrappiness we need to see. Like I told my guys, this is the playoffs. Its not about Xs and Os it’s about making shots and being scrappy.

Media: So your major adjustment after a 30 point loss in game 2 was to play more scrappy?

NM: I thought we could do some things. We talked about sometimes in this game you are going to miss shots but you have to be scrappy and fight through that. We considered altering our approach to defending the pick and roll, we also talked a bit about closing out on shooters, but really at the end of the day you have to make shots. We just missed some shots.

Media: SOME shots?!?!?
_

OK I can’t keep doing this. I keep wanting to make Scrappy Doo jokes and it isn’t really funny.

by greyhound9 on Apr 23, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed, Dave.

The point about getting pounded by the Suns, and them being the more physically aggressive team is, in my mind, key number 1. If we pound them, then we might just have a chance.

Look Ma! I got a rec!

by Jeremiah S on Apr 23, 2010 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Did anyone expect

to see defense out of Phoenix like what we’ve seen? This may be the most balanced Suns team of the Nash era.

I didn’t expect their defense to be this good. They’ve legitimately taken the Blazers out of everything they can do well.

by greyhound9 on Apr 23, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont know man..

terry didnt do crap.hes like dantoni only the opposite..its all on gentry and our bench..lookin forward to the game..

by dark.orange on Apr 24, 2010 6:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I say if we lose Fire Nate

I am not sure why everyone thinks he should be coach of the year. I am sure that is why KP is in the hot seat. Not for his players, but for letting Nate lose so many games with poor plays, and adjustments. He isn’t who you think he is.

We would be better off just fouling Richardson as soon as he touches the ball every time. It may make Phoenix get bored, and they will stop giving him the ball since the game would be moving at a snails pace with the clock stopping every 10 seconds.

I would of rather of played the Lakers. At least I would of got my money’s worth from my playoff tickets, and the Failblazers might of actually stepped up their game. I swear they look about as energetic as a pot smoker popping ambien.

http://wasdstomp.com

by Wasdstomp on Apr 23, 2010 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Really?

You thinking fouling Richardson is going to help? If it’s not J-Rich it’s going to be another Suns player that will step up. Whether you want Amar’e or Nash is up to you guys, pick your poison.

by Phx-1 on Apr 23, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's sarcasm

The failblazers are pissing me off big time.

http://wasdstomp.com

by Wasdstomp on Apr 23, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope your whole post is sarcasm

Including the title. We’re a 6 seed playing a 3 seed, we’re without three of our five best players (Roy, Batum, Oden), and the team we’re playing is fully healthy and clicking on all cylinders. This series should already be over via mercy rule, and as it stands it’s still winnable. Even if we lose, Nate should at least get a raise or something for everything he’s done this year.

by ucla139 on Apr 23, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The reason Nate needs to go

isn’t because the Blazers are down 2-1. It isn’t because the Blazers are a 6 seed losing to a 3 seed. It isn’t because they are without 3 of their best players.

It is because for two consecutive PLAYOFF games, the Blazers have played like they didn’t care.

by hercher on Apr 23, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Want some cheese with that whine?

I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.

by hurryup09 on Apr 23, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

In all honesty

Did you really expect them to win the series? We (Suns) are just too deep

by Phx-1 on Apr 23, 2010 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Seriously?

We obviously overlooked that first game, hence the 2nd and 3rd game buddy.

by Phx-1 on Apr 23, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're clearly correct

Except for the “we” part, “buddy.” The Phoenix Suns are a group of professional athletes hired by the Suns’ owner to provide entertainment to customers—including you. The SUNS are the deeper (or should I say, healthier) team, not YOU.

Sorry to interrupt your vicarious thrill, but I don’t believe you’ve made a shot or grabbed a rebound in this series. Though, considering the state of the Blazers’ health, one of us Blazers fans may suit up at any time.

I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.

by hurryup09 on Apr 23, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really

But I expect them not to lose the series in five.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 23, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The other thing I'd say

is that Phoenix has absolutely dominated when they’ve had it easy. When Portland has not opposed them with energy and grit they have smacked the Blazers so hard that all of the effort in the world wouldn’t have been enough to get back. But when Portland has dug in and stepped up the Suns have not looked nearly as good. Portland will have a very hard time opposing the Suns enough to win the series. The depth disparity that you mention is too stark. Also Portland can’t manufacture alternate ways to pull out a game, such as offense, right now for the same reason. But could the Blazers make life tough for the Suns in a game or two and thus make the Suns look bad again? Yes.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 23, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

We've let them play Suns ball way too easily

Even if fully healthy, we can’t let the SUNS play Suns ball. That is always a recipe for losing to the Suns.

M—

#52

by Mortimer on Apr 23, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

What's going to be depressing is watching the Sun's 2nd round opponent beat them

The Suns are NOT a potential NBA champion. The Blazers are just making them look like one. Considering the Blazers’ injuries, one wouldn’t realistically have expected them to win this series. But these ugly capitulations—that’s not excusable.

Where’s the fight, the physical blocking out, the clutching & grabbing, the hard fouls, the resistance? That’s what makes this so hard to stomach. The Suns are winning without even having to play true playoff basketball.

I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.

by hurryup09 on Apr 23, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

must...unleash...

THE PENDERBEAST!!!!!!

at least for a few short bursts, right? knock’em around a little bit, box out, get some hustle boards and dunks. make ’em FEEL ya.

by Chadillac5000 on Apr 23, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why on earth not, at this stage anyhow?

I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.

by hurryup09 on Apr 23, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any coach

Will tell you that injuries are not an excuse. It would’ve been a closer game, but Suns are just too deep this year

by Phx-1 on Apr 23, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude don't be a DB.

He didn’t say it as an excuse it was matter of fact.

by Escrote on Apr 23, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Even if

You did have the rest of the failblazers it wouldn’t have mattered

by Phx-1 on Apr 23, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you want to talk

you’re welcome. If you just want to troll not so much. Make your choice.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 23, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even Suns fans

shouldn’t be called a dork bunny. At least not on that kind of comment. He’s allowed to think that.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 23, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see your point.

I overreacted. It just seemed to me like the above guy was saying that we don’t have the depth/injuries in a matter of fact way and that the other guy was pulling the excuse card when it wasn’t meant that way. I dunno.

by Escrote on Apr 23, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Both are right in their way

If the Blazers had Oden and Roy and Batum healthy all year the Suns would be incredibly hard-pressed to deal with them. At least a couple of the advantages that Phoenix has used to move ahead in this series would have all but vanished. I will take that matchup every day of the year and twice on Sundays.

However that’s not the case and you can only play the series as offered, not as as “could have been”. Those don’t mean anything. Injuries aren’t an excuse in the end. The Blazers win or they don’t. Chances are they won’t. That’s reality. I’m fine with people saying that too.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 23, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

god, you are tiresome

I’ll make sure and visit you when the Suns fall short of a ring again, and again.

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Apr 23, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

As they will. They're much to soft to win it all

And I LIKE the Suns. Always have.

I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.

by hurryup09 on Apr 23, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

One word for Portland tomorrow: Aggression.

If they stay aggressive and impose their tempo on Phoenix, they can win. If it doesn’t work, they might get blown out again. But who cares? This game is the series for the Blazers right now.

Yes! Yes! In the face!

by LeafHawk on Apr 23, 2010 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

YES!

If we don’t see you at your best in this situation—a relative best, to be sure, but 100% of what you could be on that day no matter what—why should anybody care about you or what you do? This is the time when real NBA players step up. Hit that jumper. Run that break. Get back on defense. Club anybody who tries to get free at your rim in your house. Make Portland Trail Blazers basketball stand for all of those things… Go out there and do something that you, your teammates, and everybody who sees you can be proud of.

Man, you hit the nail on the head right there Dave. EXACTLY what I’ve been thinking but couldn’t put into words. Well said.

I seriously don’t even care if we lose tomorrow. I just want to see some heart and be able to be proud of my team.

by pdxrob on Apr 23, 2010 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Heck, I'd be happy

if someone would just knock Amar’e into the third row, if Nate would stand up for his players and take a T when the refs blow calls consistently, if Aldridge would try to posterize somebody — anybody. I’ll be happy if the Blazers play like they think they might be able to squeak out a win, if they play like they give a damn.

by hercher on Apr 23, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I too would like to see some scrappiness

I know there is a lot of heart in this team. All the team has to do is bring their A game and they can win the game.

by tominhawaii on Apr 23, 2010 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Bayless/Fernandez flip

would that mean Rudy is the second unit pg? Hand him the reigns in the playoffs? Who is the 2? Can Dante play the 2? Sigh. We need B-Roy…

by jorga on Apr 23, 2010 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

You'd have to rotate Rudy in

with one of the other guards.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 23, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

TiH and Jorga in the same thread

I am feeling all warm and fuzzy. Seriously. Two of my favorite people!

If we decide to do an open thread, around 10:00 Pacific tonight, you guys should come. Can’t promise exactly yet, but there’s a possibility…

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 23, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Another Live Dave Chat?!

Those are good luck so it’s a must!

Team KP

by Roybot on Apr 23, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

darn, that's too late for me.

after these late nights this week, I’m ready for bed now.
Maybe one of these days, one can be done a little earlier for us non west coasters.

#52

by bustabucket on Apr 23, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am .... inspired. Dave is fired up.

I just hope they go out and play loose tomorrow. I know the way Nate … C’s it…. they should remain Calm, but this team is wound up way tight. Nate even said we seemed to relax once the game was our of reach. And Nate has said, guys need to take their oppurtunities and do something. To me, that means look for your shot, don’t look at the coaching staff like they are going to solve it for you. To quote another jump shooting 6-11 power forward, “just ball”.

Phil Jackson I think, but maybe someone else, used to say Game 4 is the critical game, because by Game 4 there have been adjustments and counters, and you have seen just about everything the other team has to throw at you. In game 4 its what you got against what i got, no more surprises. By now, we know what we have and what we don’t. One glaring thing we don’t have is any post offense, so you know what; lets run. Run some pick and pops, and then just get out and take the first open shot. The first open shot has and is probably going to be the best one we get, so Blazers: Go out and have fun tomorrow and just ball!
Go Blazers

by BlazerFann4Life on Apr 23, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

In my post before the series I wanted Martel to start over Rudy.

However I wanted this for defensive reasons, if Nic can’t go I don’t agree that this is the time to pull Rudy. Rudy may have finally got some confidence in the second half of game 3. Lets see if that carries over before we bench him & ruin it. I was happy with LA after he got mad, before tipoff someone should get in his face & piss him off. I like angry LA angry LA is a beast! LaMarcus STAT is the enemy get mad then get even.

Somebody step up! - Mike Rice

by We-B-Dunkin on Apr 23, 2010 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I think we need to run some plays to start out for Aldridge and Rudy...

we have to have them playing well to win. They are both emotional guys and if they get a few they can really get rolling. It seems to me like it is easy for LMA and Rdy to get down on themselves. They need to take one out of Roy’s book, he is always going 2 for 10 in the first and he just keeps shooting.

by Escrote on Apr 23, 2010 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Bayless vs. Nash

The refs are already putting their whistles in the deep freeze for that matchup. Did you see the wrestling move Nash put on Bayless at the end of the second quarter, and there was no call? It was absurd. Body slamming Jerryd Bayless is no longer a foul in the NBA.

by Kaboomm on Apr 23, 2010 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Dave wrote what I was gonna say too

I can’t remember being more annoyed with the lack of focus and aggressiveness, the lack of “stepping up” than I am right now with our guys.

Most of all, I am annoyed and angry for the fans— many of whom going to their first playoff game— who paid big money to cheer our guys on, and we lay an egg at home again. It’s just sad.

One good thing about this series, in 3 short games, is that we’re seeing a stark divide between the players who clearly want to play and are up for the moment, and who is not. The decisions for who we should keep and trade should factor in playoff play heavily. Pretty frustrated with some key dudes right now…

Despite the bummer of 2 blowouts in a row, I think we can win game 4 and force a game 6 back in Portland. We gotta take it from there.

Mortimer

#52

by Mortimer on Apr 23, 2010 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

What do you think about the SF position?

Can Dante Cunningham back it up? I thought about Aldridge playing minutes at SF too, though there isn’t enough depth in the frontcourt to make that pay off.

by Kaboomm on Apr 23, 2010 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

After giving miserable effort for 2 games (worse 6 consecutive playoff quarters I remember in 40 years),

I expect an all-out effort and win tomorrow. But if they don’t win, that’s ok.

But if they don’t give an all-out effort, then heads should roll.

"Brandon eats first around here" - KP

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Apr 23, 2010 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

If we roll over and die

Then I will have a rare kneejerk reaction.

It would be inexcusable.

Morty Pie

#52

by Mortimer on Apr 23, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You find out what players and coaches are really made of in the playoffs.

I wouldn’t jettison a player based on only one playoff series, but you have to weigh playoff performance much more heavily than anything they do in regular seasons. You see who steps up their effort under real pressure and who doesn’t. Who’s tough and who isn’t. Who plays at their talent level and who doesn’t. These playoffs will definitely decide the Blazer future of two players, perhaps three.

"Brandon eats first around here" - KP

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Apr 23, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactamundo!!!

Go out scrappin and the fans will forget a whole lot of losses…

by dawgman47 on Apr 23, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great post, Dave. Strong sauce.

I am perpendicularly pissed off right now!!!!!!

by pxilpooshr on Apr 23, 2010 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Monty Williams just said that Phoenix played hard because they respect the Blazers.

Doesn’t anyone on the Blazers get it? They played hard because this is the playoffs. You don’t need any other motivation. They would play hard against the Nets.

"Brandon eats first around here" - KP

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Apr 23, 2010 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I think even of PDX plays hard, this is the most balanced Suns team of the Nash Era

They can and they have been playing tough. It’s not just a finesse game.

by Azrael on Apr 23, 2010 7:12 PM PDT reply actions  

wouldnt it make more sense to start Webster at the 2.

Nash can guard Rudy and Bayless well enough to keep him off of Miller but Webster is just too big. Then bring Rudy in when Nash sits.

by Kaanyr Vhok on Apr 24, 2010 1:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Marty doesn't have a very good handle

Bayless is better on Nash than Miller on Nash.

Bayless has also been a better scorer than either Marty or Rudy.

Folks can and will question Bayless as a distributor, but he has definitely been a more effective and efficient scorer, and he is better at staying in front of Nash than anyone else we have.

by upper left corner on Apr 24, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too cynical?

It seems it’s agreed that the blazers are playing without much effort (except for a few guys), and that all the fans ask for is at least a tough, gritty game from LMA and Friends. (who knows: they might even win with that kind of aggressive play).

My question: most of the players are not in a contract year and are assured a very high salary for years to come, regardless of their effort in this series, so why should they want to play hard if they don’t have to? The only benefit for them would be (temporary) appreciation from a small portion of PDX’s population. And unless they are socially insecure, they won’t care much about earning the respect of some strangers far outside their age/peer group.

That’s pretty cynical of me, but if I were in their situation, missing teammates due to injuries, facing a three seed, and tired of playing hard, I wouldn’t play with any more “scrappiness”.

I guess one additional motivating factor is personal pride, but most NBA players are buddies with their counterparts on other teams and would extend leeway to blazer players given the injuries.

I’m not blaming LMA et al. Rather, I’m just trying to explain what’s happening. What do you think?

by Cepstrum on Apr 24, 2010 7:59 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Doesn't make sense to me.

Guys don’t get to be professional athletes without effort. If our guys had the pride and effort to fight through an entire season with all the injuries without just giving up, doesn’t it stand to reason that they have the pride and effort to try to win the series?

This isn’t about not trying. Our guys want to win, and they are trying to win. It is about not knowing how to meet the aggression of an opponent. The key is being able to be aggressive without getting in foul trouble. Portland stayed out of foul trouble in the first game and got in early foul trouble in the second and the third.

by upper left corner on Apr 24, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Projecting myself...

You’re doubtless right, ULC. I think I’m just projecting myself onto the players. ie, I wouldn’t be playing hard, for I’m not particularly self-motivated and would be content to not win once I got a six or seven figure NBA contract.

by Cepstrum on Apr 24, 2010 10:14 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Flip Side

I realize everyone is upset over Blazers being steamrolled the past 2 games and are now saying “coach is crap”, “players gave up”, but to be honest, a little perspective.
Suns-hottest team in NBA past 1-2 months
The series is 2-1. If anyone was told at the start of the season that the Blazers would open up against the hottest team in the NBA, be without
Roy, Oden, Batum, and have Rudy shotting blanks (when it matters), I think most would be estatic with a 2-1 defecit.
We have lost 3 of our top 4 guys (for game 3 & probably 4, assuming Batum is agreed a top 4 player on Blazers. If nothing else, we have lost our top wing defender). If we had our full compliment of players hitting on all cylinders and we were playing the Suns who were without Nash, Amare, & let’s say Hill, my guess is our fans would be upset that the Suns had even won a game.
As for the players not caring, I don’t buy it. I guess they cared so little that they went in and were the only road team to win Game 1. The reality is that the Suns in Game 2 & 3 have hit everything from the outside and if the ball does hit the rim, it bounces up, hits the backboard comes back down, does a 360 on the rim and then goes in.
We are playing perhaps the best offensive team in the league with
a sub for SG that has struggled
SF- hurt game 2 and could not do much in game 3
C- who is not an offensive center
Blazers on O are really playing Miller/LA vs Suns O- where almost everyone can hit. The matchup is so 1 sided, it is almost a miracle the Blazers did get a game. Not saying the Blazers can’t beat the Suns, but no BRoy, no Batum…the chances are very very low that they can. They need an unconscious effort by everyone and they are not getting anything from Rudy and LA has to stay in the game, otherwise there is very little offensive options for Blazers.

by keeweekid on Apr 24, 2010 8:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Thank you for a bit of sanity

The whole “lack of effort and toughness” argument seems very overblown to me. Knowing how to meet the aggression of an opponent without getting in foul trouble is very important, but arguing that the guys aren’t trying when they worked their butts off to get here doesn’t make much sense to me.

by upper left corner on Apr 24, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great post, Dave!

Thank you for this! Some key points to focus on during the couple-hour drive to Portland for the game today. My first playoff game. I want some fight from the Blazers, some urgency.

by Dr. Horrible on Apr 24, 2010 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

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