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Game 3 Recap: Blazers 89, Suns 108

Long Story Short:  The Blazers check out of this game quicker than a televangelist from a roadside motel.  The Blazers show a little fight in the second half but the Suns romp to another laugher.

The Game

The Blazers were actually in this game for the first two minutes or so.  Phoenix was firing jumpers that weren't connecting.  The Blazers were patrolling the boards.  Unfortunately Portland couldn't muster any offense of their own.  With the Suns packing it in on Miller and Aldridge Portland was forced into a bevy of late jumpers themselves, almost all of which missed.  Still, when Nicolas Batum rammed home a baseline dunk off of a cut past a posting LaMarcus Aldridge you thought maybe the Blazers had a chance.  Then a giant bell started ringing througout the arena.

BONNNNNG.  Rudy Fernandez, once again not looking for any kind of shot, drives and gets free but instead of looking at the hoop fires a long, cross-court pass for another bad outside jumper.

BONNNNNG.  With three minutes gone Fernandez commits his second foul, going to the bench and leaving Portland without one of its few viable players, not to mention one of its few multi-threat offensive players (if he'd ever take the safety off).

BONNNNNG.  LaMarcus Aldridge collects his second foul with four minutes gone.  There goes the heart of Portland's offense.

BONNNNNG.  Nicolas Batum, gamely trying to make a go of it, all but waves the white flag by missing his second jumper of the game badly.  He might as well have hung up a sign saying, "Sag off because I can't hit."  Batum would leave the game later in the half.

Ask not for whom the bell tolls, Portland.  It tolls for thee.

At that point Phoenix had their way on defense, zoning up or switching, thwarting any Portland penetration with multiple defenders.  As the Blazers' offense exploded on the launching pad Portland's energy went down.  Now the Suns began to run, offensive rebound, force turnovers, penetrate and draw fouls...they got everything they wanted, everything that brought them an easy victory in the last game.  The only bright spots for the Blazers in the first half were a couple of nice finishes at the rim by Jerryd Bayless and some good energy play by Dante Cunningham.   LaMarcus Aldridge did manage to score down low but it was way too late. ( In the second period, mind you!)  Portland was down 66-37(!) at the half and the Suns were openly laughing their way off of the court.

Let's dismiss the game right now, banishing all talk of winning it so we can talk about what the Blazers did well in the second half without pretending they actually had a chance to come back, as they didn't.  But Portland did establish a couple of things for Game 4.

First and foremost Portland amped up the physicality in the second half which was both necessary and good.  Amare Stoudemire started it by jawing at his opponent and getting into it with LaMarcus Aldridge.  After that guys like Juwan Howard, Dante Cunningham, Jerryd Bayless, and Martell Webster started bumping and fouling hard.  That put the spine back in Portland's game and took Stoudemire off of his pedestal.  This is critical for the next game.  If Phoenix is really that good, if they're going to win it, there's no way they should do so unscathed.  If they're giggling into their hands after any period in that game Portland is doing something wrong.  They need to come out of it knowing they have played the Blazers and knowing they don't like it.  The fact that the Suns started tightening up when jostled should be all the incentive Portland needs to press the physical advantage.

Second, the Blazers finally got some production from their supporting players.  Webster started it by hitting some shots and driving.  His jumper hit quickly off of a screen which should be a template for Portland's distance shots.  Rudy Fernandez also hit 3 threes in a lightning stretch in the second half...the first spark we've seen from him all series.  Jerryd Bayless attacked the rim with gusto all night and deserves credit for an intense, effective offensive game.  This is also critical.  The three main players--Aldridge, Miller, Camby--are playing the game but not changing the game right now.  Part of that is on them but part of it is Phoenix being able to commit two and sometimes three men to make sure they don't get off.  The Websters and Fernandezes of the world are supposed to prevent that.  Portland is having major trouble on offense in part because these guys are just not used to playing together.  When a couple of them self-select out of the offense by abandoning their aggressiveness that trouble becomes insurmountable.  A pass that would be good to a normal player in a normal situation becomes a disaster.

A couple of questions are being asked vocally right now:

1.  Should Brandon Roy be rushed back?  The answer is NO.  As we saw with Nicolas Batum an injured player doesn't help.  A guy who's hurt and unable to perform fully can be distracting and demoralizing.  That's especially true when it's your superstar.  You don't bring Brandon back until you're sure he's ready.  If that's not this series, then so be it.  What are you going to win anyway?  You don't risk the health of Roy for anything less than a run at a championship.

2.  Is this series over?  Again...no.  Right now Portland's focus becomes forcing a Game 7 (perhaps with a Roy return) and seeing what happens.  If you're thinking of taking the series easily and outright tonight's loss was a huge blow.  But in terms of getting to Game 7 and giving yourself a chance a split of these two home games serves almost as well.  You look to split these, split the next two, and head to Phoenix for the rubber match.  Now...if Portland loses on Saturday then the series is all but over.  But not yet, so don't panic.

3.  Blazer broadcasters Mike Barrett and Mike Rice made much of an elbow Amare Stoudemire mostly threw at LaMarcus Aldridge...the cause of the biggest stare-down of the game.  They claimed repeatedly that the league should look at it in light of the Kevin Garnett suspension.  While I like both Mikes, I disagree.  The two situations aren't comparable as one happened in the heat of the game and the other during a stoppage.  Also I don't think the Blazers benefit much or learn much from having Amare out.  Rather they want to pummel, punish, run over, around, and through Stoudemire and his flapping gums on their way to a legit win.  Bouncing back from these last two games to seize another victory over that exact same team will be the real achievement.

And yes...it'll happen.  Batum or no Batum, Roy or no Roy, limited offensive options or not, the Blazers are not going out in 5.  Martell Webster and Jerryd Bayless and Andre Miller and Dante Cunningham are not going out in 5.  Book it. 

We'll talk more about Saturday's must-win contest tomorrow.  For now, go grab a cold one and relax.

Boxscore

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

P.S.  Click through for the results from the Jersey Contest playoffs and the announcement of the first cut down to 16.

Star-divide

Here are the results from the first games of the Jersey Contest.  The Top 16 will continue to the next game.  All scores will be reset.  Every one of those 16 starts from 0 now and survives or falls to the next cut down to 8 by virtue of their scores in that game.

  • 1.   165  52ripcity7 
    2.   143 chuky
    3.   139  jbcooper80
    4.   138  Runman47
    5.   135  living
    6.   125  buffduck
    7.   113  jlw19799
    8.   110  Darkwebs
    9.   109  Norsktroll
    10.  104  Xurikk
    11.  102  blazingjim
           102  Sir-1
    13. 101  MavetheGreat
          101  Walkie
    15.  99  cbryan
    16.  98  baster
           98  drpstp
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    97  elephant03
    96  krizzikinz
    96  RunDMCL
    95  OldSchool
    93  brainfart
    93  oldbaum
    92  PhilGB
    89  sterles
    88  twggyy
    87  TheGreatMon
    74  BillyJoeJack
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BARF

But kinda happy. Rudy’s back, we’ve shown we can get some strong physicality going – Game 4 is ours, book it.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 22, 2010 9:57 PM PDT reply actions  

When is Rudy going back to Spain again?

cool defense tonight.

nice effort by the blazers…

by abobo84 on Apr 22, 2010 9:57 PM PDT reply actions  

not soon enough..

a few late three pointers when it doesn’t matter does not hold any redemption factor for me.
I was at the game and got there super early. During shoot around while the crowd was cheering, Rudy was moping and hit only 1 of probably 15 three attempts while showing no sense of urgency. I know that he sells jerseys and lame T-shirts for everyone’s girlfriends, but I am done with this bs.

by blizzard_80 on Apr 22, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Imagine if we had Pietrus playing his minutes instead, defending JRich.

by IndustrialRevolution on Apr 22, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mostly agree

but I’ll admit that he played with energy from the outset last night. He hasn’t been doing that of late, but he was trying to have an impact with something other than his shot, and I respect the effort.

Frankly, I don’t think he’s on the roster next season.

by hercher on Apr 23, 2010 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well said Dave.

Just got home from the game and even though I had 3 cold ones there, I think I need one more at home just to wash the bad taste away.

Great to see Rudy come alive there in the 4th. The energy from that was palpable.

Hope to see more Dante in Game 4, and I wish we would have seen some Pendy in there. Think Pendy would back down against Amare? Ha. I’d love to see the kid just ROCK Amare into next week.

Not over yet. Stoked for Game 4…

by pdxrob on Apr 22, 2010 9:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I couldn't even have a cold one.

The game is on too late for me (I’m on the east coast), so I recorded it and got up early this morning (4 AM) to watch it. Somehow, washing it away with a cup of coffee doesn’t work as well.

by hercher on Apr 23, 2010 6:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more about the Mikes comments on Andre's elbow

It’s one thing to mention it when it happened, but they constantly harped on it throughout the second half. Look, it’s one thing to throw an elbow like that during the game, but it’s entirely different to do it in the middle of a scuffle after the play was over.

Garnett was trying a cheap shot when the game wasn’t even going, I can’t see how you compare the incidents so much, or so often.

Let’s just try to show up for the Saturday game instead, and give the Mikes something reasonable to talk about…

by pcrackenhead on Apr 22, 2010 9:59 PM PDT reply actions  

*facepalm*

Yes, I mean Amare. Though I’d have loved it if Andre threw an elbow.

Better yet, I’d have loved for the team to play like they wanted to win the game…

by pcrackenhead on Apr 23, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I finally saw a good view of that play

I was at the game and I didn’t get a chance to really see it until now. Regardless of whether it was in game …or on the sidelines….the rule it pretty clear. If you swing an elbow …above the shoulders…it is supposed to be an automatic suspension, evidenced not so much by the Garnett play this year…but a better example would be the Dwight Howard play from last years playoffs. LMA was merely boxing out cleanly and when Amare, realizing that the ball was going to the other side…decided to throw a cheap elbow …high. You can almost see the wheels turning in Amare’s head when he realizes that the ref are watching the ball going thru from the other side and figures he can get away with it. If the league elects to ignore that play then they are hypocrites (which wouldn’t surprise me a bit).

BTW Amare is a punk

Phil Mickelson: "A Great shot is when you pull it off.....a smart shot is when you don't have the guts to try it"’

by 92wastheyear on Apr 23, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely pathetic. No excuse for that total lack of effort. It starts with you, LaMarcus.

by jksnake99 on Apr 22, 2010 10:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I wonder if folks will start believing us

when we tell people that LMA is overrated. Second best player on our team, my ass, you have to break a sweat if you want to be good in this league, no matter how naturally gifted.

by howlingfantods on Apr 22, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

God. In a heartbeat. I love that guy.

I watched way more wolves games this season than any non-fan should ever be subjected to just to watch how he throws his body around to get rebounds.

by howlingfantods on Apr 22, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

and me too, I watched a lot of him this year.

by IndustrialRevolution on Apr 22, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

-

That is what happens when your 6’11 and just shoot jump shots. He isn’t a guard and we can’t win like that. I don’t care if he can make them a lot of the time. He needs to beef up and take on an inside presence.

by ChrisG503 on Apr 22, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um.

I think we know what kind of player he is now…I don’t think that he is going to turn into Karl Malone overnight. His post moves may become more polished, but he’s never going to get in there and grind it out. Which is a shame because he could be giving Portland an extra 4-5 points a game from the line if he were more aggressive. The guy is like a deer in the open court though. He has his strengths…but they aren’t heavy on the “power” part of his position.

by pistil_stamen on Apr 22, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not about size.

LMA isn’t much smaller than Tim Duncan, and Duncan manages to play hard, defend and hit the boards. And lead.

I don’t even care about him becoming a true post up player. I don’t hate stretch 4s; I hate lazy ones.

by howlingfantods on Apr 22, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lets not forget..

He out played Amare in game one. Both statistically and energy wise. He had some big moments in the fourth too. Including that huge offensive tip in. Keep in mind he is still very young and this is great experience for him.

We are lukcy to just be here guys. Clearly, we area sub 500 team without ROY. Aldridge is one of the guys that helped us over achieve this year. Name 3 other power forwards that would win us a playoff series in Aldridge’s place right now…

"im ready for a fight..." -Joel Przybilla

by KillaPrzydollaBILLA on Apr 22, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

both Amare and LA were bad in game 1.

LA has been bad in all 3 games.

by jksnake99 on Apr 22, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aldrige was NOT bad in game 1...

He had 23 points and helped hold Amare to 18…

"im ready for a fight..." -Joel Przybilla

by KillaPrzydollaBILLA on Apr 22, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was a fairly inefficient 23 ponts is probably what Jake means.

Unfortunately I’m not sure other players would have done better if given those shots. So while inefficient, he was not ineffectual.

by Timmay! on Apr 22, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

he had 22 points on an abysmal .468 TS%, 3 rebounds and 5 turnovers, and it was primarily Camby on Amare.

by jksnake99 on Apr 23, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think part of LMA's problem

is that it takes him to long to make a move. When he gets the ball down low, he tends to hold it for a few moments before making his move. This allows the Suns to recognize the situation, and react. It gave them more time to send the double team once Aldridge did start to make his move.

Watch Stoudemire or Bosh, or any quality PF when they get the ball down low. They immediately start their move.

I don’t know if it takes Aldridge too long to recognize the situation and make a decision (and Brandon Roy does the same thing), or if he is overly influenced by Nate’s far too deliberate approach to offense, but he needs to learn to recognize and react quicker.

by hercher on Apr 23, 2010 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are so right!

I noticed that at the game last night, and it’s been like that for most of the season, but I didn’t really realize how slowly he reacts until last night when we needed a quicker reaction more than anything. Hopefully they come out strong in game 4 or this post season will have ended far too quickly. I’ll be there at game 4 and I hope the fans bring as much energy as they did to the last game…don’t quit on them yet.

by nnz0122 on Apr 23, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

i don't have a problem with being deliberate in the post

the problem is when you don’t recognize that they are taking advantage of it and make some adjustments.

He is real good, Phoenix just schemed his play. The problem is if he can not adjust out of that. It is all play design.

Does every entry pass to aldridge have to be followed by a clear out? Every one?

That is purely a choice by the coach in terms of play design and calling. We never get an in-out passing game going. The only time we had any of that action was in that surge in the 4th. I really do not like our offensive system, these games show why. It CAN work, but it is easy to stop once you figure it out, which a 7 game series will ALWAYS allow a team to do.

It is obviously a great system to win a ton of regular season games, but once a team faces you in consecutive games we do not seem to stand a chance.

"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man

by PDXBuckeye on Apr 23, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really that true.

Timmy holds on to the ball. Shaq holds on to the ball. Hakeem held on to the ball. Barkley held on to the ball for a million years. These guys watch what the defense does, where the double is coming or if there’s not going to be a double, or if their man defender is overplaying a side, and run a move to counter that defense.

Lamarcus just isn’t that great a post up player. He doesn’t like the contact and his shot gets defended very easily in the post – just shove his base a bit and LMA will miss more often than not, and that kind of contact is rarely called in the NBA.

I don’t hate him for not being a great post up player—and in fact, I think it’s pretty bad coaching that Nate keeps calling plays trying to post him up. Let him play to his strengths—But I do hate his lack of effort and heart.

by howlingfantods on Apr 23, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is pretty true

LA isn’t a great post passer, so he always looks for the safe option. That’s why he almost always kicks it out to the ball-side shooter: it’s an easier, safer pass. Normally, with Roy on the weakside, the defense doesn’t dare bring a double because we can reverse the ball and Roy can create against a scrambled defense. Without Roy, the Suns can wait to see what LA will do, then bring the double from the weakside. Because LA’s not a good enough passer to make them pay, and because Roy’s not there to score against a moving defense, we can’t beat it consistently.

by atomiccafe on Apr 23, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

one thing that LA could learn is to pivot and face up his defender when the double comes. He can use his long arms to keep the ball up and out of reach and find the open man much easier. LA could beat the double with a single pass instead of always looking for the kick out, where a shorter player wouldn’t even have that option. Shaq was/is amazing at doing this

by Billy Hoyle on Apr 23, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

But the guys you mention are also very explosive

and quite capable of making an immediate decision. And Shaq was so strong, he could overpower a double team. And defenses had to respect their explosiveness, so if they doubled, they had to double on the catch rather than the dribble.

LMA is very athletic, but not really explosive or overpowering. So he needs to be able to make quicker decisions.

Steven Nash noted that about his own play in game one, and acknowledged that he had to make quicker decisions when the double team came. LMA needs to be able to do the same thing.

by hercher on Apr 23, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

oops

anyways, first time I heard Timmy called “explosive”. Not sure how much you’ve seen these players but it’s not at all true that teams doubled them on the catch instead of the dribble.

There’s a lot of things keeping LMA from being an effective post player. Making quick decisions is far far far from being the most important factor. General lack of skill, poor reads, bad handle, and most importantly the inability to finish through contact are the biggest reasons.

by howlingfantods on Apr 23, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

What Duncan lacks in obvious athletic ability he makes up for with (1) the best three step foot-work in the NBA (2) impeccable body control which allows him to get to where he wants to go like a guard and (3) an incredibly reliable 12-15 ft shot which he needs only inches to make. He is an impossible cover because of these skills at his size (7’ 250?)

by atomiccafe on Apr 24, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m tired.

"If we win a title, I promise not to hate on anyone associated with the Blazers for 1 full season" - jksnake99

"...black on black. my favorite!" - portlandgiirl91

by fajunga on Apr 22, 2010 10:04 PM PDT reply actions  

C’mon! OK, sleep it off. Wake up tomorrow and get amped for Game 5. That’s right Dave, we’re not going in 5.

by tex-pdx on Apr 22, 2010 10:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Rudy comes alive in Q4 of Game 3...

… woulda been nice to see that like, 2.75 games ago?

by Usil on Apr 22, 2010 10:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't know what to say ladies and gents.

Our grit is wearing thin. This has been a long and draining season, I still feel like we need to keep the boat afloat long enough for the captain to come back. By the way was that person wearing #23 Michael Jordan because I couldn’t tell.

by JmarcL4 on Apr 22, 2010 10:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah...

If your guys had made your FTs it would have been tied in the 3rd when you were down by only 11. Sometimes its the little things I guess…I dont expect that to be an issue on Sat.

Reading is good...

by N8lol on Apr 22, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

BINGO

If Portland makes merely half of those misses, it’s (UNBELIEVABLY) a six point game with under 5 to play. They were 12-24 at that point, and were down by 11. Imagine if they are focused and making 21 or 22 of those. I think Phoenix would have wilted having coughed up a 31 point lead. That stat is an incredible indicator to how focused a team is. They call them “free” throws for a reason. As a fan, nothing angers me more than egregious misses from the free throw line.

by pistil_stamen on Apr 22, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know whether to be mad or sad...

Kind of have a weird mix of the two.

I don’t really know what to look forward to for game 4. I was expecting for the Blazers to come out with fire in their eyes and play their A game. I am pretty sure that a lot of this is just in our guys’ minds. It’s almost as if they have forgotten how they pulled off many of the amazing wins we had this season.

#52

by brioe162 on Apr 22, 2010 10:10 PM PDT reply actions  

“It’s almost as if they have forgotten how they pulled off many of the amazing wins we had this season.”

The thing is, they pulled off many of the amazing wins by a wide array of bizarre performances- e.g. Millers 52 point game, Camby’s 30 point game, games where Bayless went on a rampage, where Martell shot the lights out on the 3 pointers, etc. (I think there were some bizarre ones won by defense as well as offense although I don’t remember those ones as well)

by lsjogren on Apr 22, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

About two months ago

I talked extensively about the difference between playoff basketball and the regular season. One of the side-effects of a team being able to prepare for you and ONLY you is that those “amazing wins” are harder to come by. They’ve already compensated for most of your possibilities.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 22, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose I neglected to think about that aspect...

Grit can only get you so far.

Nonetheless, I was hoping to see a little more fire from Portland tonight. We had just been blown out in Phoenix, the last thing I was expecting for tonight was for Portland to be blown out again.

We need someone to step up.

#52

by brioe162 on Apr 22, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's hoping they come back after an embarrassing home loss.

They are in the same position Phoenix was in before game 2 with their backs up against the wall, embarrassed by their home loss. Let’s hope they come out with more fight. The team that wants it the most will win game 4, and for the love of god, we need to stop Richardson.

by nnz0122 on Apr 23, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only good thing I can take out of the last two debacles

is the play of Martell Webster. While the rest of the team is sleepwalking, he’s hustling, getting offensive rebounds, and actually driving to the basket more than he has all season.

by Corwin71 on Apr 22, 2010 10:10 PM PDT reply actions  

His confidence has been up and down

but even in the face of 20+ point deficits and teammates hanging their heads, he’s kept pushing. I hope he can carry that forward.

by Corwin71 on Apr 22, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thoroughly impressed by Martell Webster

As a Suns fan I was almost rooting for him a couple times.
Except when JRich stripped him and he flopped his way to THREE freethrows. I have literally never seen that before.

"The Nash abides."
I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that.
It's good to know he's out there, The Nash, taking 'er easy for all us sinners.

by RMason on Apr 23, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I bring up the flop

Because it was funny, not to be one of those fans that whines about flopping when EVERY team and player does it.

"The Nash abides."
I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that.
It's good to know he's out there, The Nash, taking 'er easy for all us sinners.

by RMason on Apr 23, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Martell

is one of the best player in the league at drawing the ubiquitous three shot foul when the other player isn’t even trying to contest. He gets his hands underneath the defender’s arms almost as well as Kobe and Durant, except he’s a mediocre offensive player overall. Pretty funny.

by atomiccafe on Apr 23, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

yep

one of the VERY few blazers who has consistently come to play in the postseason.

by pdxrob on Apr 22, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but…he went 1-5 from the line when those 4 free throws could have made a significant difference at that point the ballgame. Huge misses. My head nearly exploded when he missed the 4th.

by pistil_stamen on Apr 22, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was so proud of Martell.

He is regaining his confidence and heart.

by nnz0122 on Apr 23, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

This has been a season of extremes...

I’ve been more proud of this group that any other Blazer team I can remember, but I’ve also been more pissed off at them. There have been games throughout the year where the effort didn’t appear to be there, or they just seemed inept. Unfortunately they picked a very bad time to revert to that.

by Corwin71 on Apr 22, 2010 10:11 PM PDT reply actions  

looking back

" There have been games throughout the year where the effort didn’t appear to be there, or they just seemed inept. Unfortunately they picked a very bad time to revert to that."

True and that is one of the most bizarre things about the season. People talk about how amazingly the team did in the face of all the injuries.

Actually, a more accurate statement would be, it is amazing how well the team did in the face of both all the injuries PLUS some very poor play from several of the young players during major stretches of the season.

by lsjogren on Apr 22, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting analysis.

(Suns fan here) I thought what you said about the Suns “tightening up” when Portland played physical was probably close to it. I will admit I got worried for a bit there in the third. The Suns are known to drop big leads though it hasn’t been an issue in the last 2 months.

I would not be at all surprised if Portland comes out playing really hard on Sat and trying to get into Amare’s grill a bit. A big concern for me is Rudy’s potential emergence. The Suns make a big deal of Nash being able to play him and take a rest. You saw what happened when he caught fire. If that happens earlier in game 4 we will be in for an interesting game and rest of the series.

Tough breaks for you guys with injuries. My heart goes out. My wife is from Portland so I love the Blazers. As a Suns fan I also know what its like to have bad playoff luck. Hope things work out better for you in the future.

Reading is good...

by N8lol on Apr 22, 2010 10:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll have none of that...

I love Portland! Great beer, green trees, lots of water….imagine that! No droughts!

Reading is good...

by N8lol on Apr 22, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

We also recycle like no other place I've ever been!

When I’m at the rose garden I have to stand and read all the signs to know where to throw my trash haha. Changing the world one recycle bin at a time.

by nnz0122 on Apr 23, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

Real Suns fans don’t pull that kind of junk because we know what it’s like. Leave that crap up to a Spurs or Fakers fan. Talk about classless.

by Jared15 on Apr 23, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

appreciate the classy comments...

definitely been a rough and tumble season for us. losing Roy before the playoffs, and now Batum, just too much for us to overcome perhaps. But we’re not going down without a fight I hope. Another loss like tonight’s and I’d be really, really, disappointed.

Losing I can handle. Giving up? Not so much. So I hope that flash we saw in the 4th means that the Blazers still intend to make this a series at least…

by pdxrob on Apr 22, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too

To be totally honest, even if the Suns win this series, I want it to be a little tougher. It only gets harder from here on out and to win in 5 games with margins like this would, I think, put them in a bad mental position.

Its also nice to see Portland develop its bench players. I mean, you guys are practically starting you bench. Its kinda fun really when you think about the potential for the coming years. With Camby, Aldridge, and Oden in the front court, and Roy handling point…sheesh. plus! bringing Batum off the bench with Miller, Rudy, and Priz? Thats like 7 starter class players to rotate through.

Reading is good...

by N8lol on Apr 22, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

well....

Batum is and will be a starter, and honestly unless Rudy hits about 17 more 3’s this series I think he’s gone this summer.

And man o man, would I love Love LOVE to see us swap out LaMarcus for Chris Bosh somehow. Sooooo sick and tired of LaSoftus and his lack of intensity. Holy cow, seeing him get a T tonight? Highlight reel. Why can’t you bring that anger and emotion every night, dude?!?!

Still, I hear ya – we do indeed have a strong future. Just frustrating losing games like this.

by pdxrob on Apr 22, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was getting excited during that Rudy run

because I thought “yay, maybe we won’t lose by such an embarrassing margin now!” I knew that game was gone after the first quarter, I just didn’t want to get pounded into the ground so badly. Props to all the awesome fans last night though. frustration was there at times, but we all really rallied behind our team to the very end.

by nnz0122 on Apr 23, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow thanks!

Objective and mature, gotta love it!

by nnz0122 on Apr 23, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice comments

Yeah, Portland is a great team; it’s just been a tough year for you guys. I gotta admit, though — and I don’t mean to be a jerk, especially since the Trailblazers are my so-called "second favorite team — but the “sheen” is wearing off on the whole thing lately. When Oden was first drafted, it seemed like the Blazers were going to be the cream of the Western crop for years to come. It’s too bad what persistent injuries (Brandon Roy, Greg Oden, Martell Webster) and wasted potential (Rudy Fernandez, Sergio Rodriguez, Jerryd Bayless, LaMarcus Aldridge (to a degree)) have done to the team. They’re still a great team when at full strength, but their core isn’t looking as promising as it once had. It’s pretty crappy seeing a good young team get so snake-bitten. But as a Suns fan, I certainly am familiar with cheering on a snake-bitten team.

by jburning on Apr 23, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Having suffered through many playoff losses as a Suns fan

I always say that if you can’t win the series, at least go out with some physicality. The Blaze will be thoroughly pissed tomorrow.

"The Nash abides."
I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that.
It's good to know he's out there, The Nash, taking 'er easy for all us sinners.

by RMason on Apr 23, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was busy tonight and couldn't watch the game,

But now I’m sort of glad I wasn’t able to after seeing the outcome. The Suns have made some nice adjustments to win the last two. Now it’s on Nate and the team to do the same. Think they have it in them? I still believe, but without a healthy Batum, my expectations are lowered.

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by ericking on Apr 22, 2010 10:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Batum

He might be a lot better by Saturday. But I kind of feel like the Blazers are running on fumes.

If they lose the Suns series, well they got some great experience. People thought it was a good matchup.

Well, the last two games the Suns played a lot more playoff style than I expected. They played physical and they played defense. Two things you see from teams that succeed in the playoffs. So maybe the Blazers will not have gotten their favorable matchup, but instead gotten a taste of genuine playoff ball from a team whose ability to play playoff style ball was previously viewed with considerable skepticism.

by lsjogren on Apr 22, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rudyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

by VicG on Apr 22, 2010 10:17 PM PDT reply actions  

A bit of a yawner Game 3

Rudy and LMA go out with foul trouble. The Suns get rolling and can’t miss shots. Blazers stumble and throw junk at the hoop. We have about 6 players in the rotation with Batum’s injury and zombie Howard. Let’s see what they have in Game 4. The injuries destroyed this season, it was a success just getting this far.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Apr 22, 2010 10:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Honestly at least we are doing this

Without our All-Star and another dominant big man. Not to mention a totally banged up Batum who is our best defender. I’m going out on a limb here and saying I think we have more upside than this Suns team.

by JmarcL4 on Apr 22, 2010 10:22 PM PDT reply actions  

It's hard to look at the upside

when all I want is the Blazers to get to the second round…and I really thought we could after game 1, but now, I’d be happy to see game 7

by 01B5S4 on Apr 22, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

At this point

I’d be happy to see Game 6.

by pdxrob on Apr 22, 2010 10:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Perhaps

You do have what seems to be an endless supply of good young talent with huge potential. But Suns also have a few young guys who fit that bill also. Dudley, and Amundson are making huge leaps towards being good starters. Dragic, Lopez and Clark will be stars of a good Suns team in the near future. Clark is looking like a younger Amare with defensive ability. Batum and Bayless are crazy scary though.

by Jared15 on Apr 23, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really wish the Suns had Batum ... very nice player

Though Clark, if he develops properly, will fill a similar role.

by jburning on Apr 23, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really, really frustrating following this team this year with all the injuries and so forth.

I can understand Paul Allen’s frustration and impatience too. Now it really feels like this team is a couple years behind where we’d originally hoped they’d be. Meanwhile OKC is playing the former champs exceptionally well, gaining valuable playoff experience and confidence, and who knows, might even pull an upset.

by Stryder9 on Apr 22, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

OKC is 1 and 2

so are we, playing without .. well, you know the rest

by collectiveshane on Apr 22, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I get from this game

Rudy needs to pull the trigger a LOT more

Pendergraph and Cunningham need to play .. not Howard.

Aldridge needs to realize he CAN score inside.

Miller needs to asset himself on the drive AND look for open shooters

by collectiveshane on Apr 22, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I think Miller wasn't bad.

The suns doubled him up pretty aggressively but the rest of the offense didn’t come over to give him an outlet. There were times when Andre was the one inside trying to rebound.

Blazers 1.
Bad Guys 1.

by DaNoose on Apr 22, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeepers, that game was a downer

To me the keys to the next game are ball movement and player movement. Here’s to guys making their shots and playing scrappy.

by tominhawaii on Apr 22, 2010 10:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I am interested to see what the rationalization is from the team about LMA.

#52
"We have nothing to lose." - Martell

by Cablinasian on Apr 22, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Richardson has destroyed us two games in a row

And it all has to do with terrible defense. Can we please start Webster and have him play lockdown defense on the guy?!

When Richardson scores more than 20, PHX wins almost always. We’re giving him 30+ a game on wide open shots.

by Neama on Apr 22, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Even Webster left Richardson open a couple of times.

The problem I saw tonight was they kept helping off of Richardson. I couldn’t get over the lack of any adjustment to this.

I thought we would prefer Nash taking those shots.

Blazers 1.
Bad Guys 1.

by DaNoose on Apr 22, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amare sets a pick, Nash crosses, our guard runs under, Amare rolls, weakside wing helps on Amare, Nash kicks to Channing, LMA out to Channing, Channing passes to Richardson, Three point made. Repeat for two games.

I am perpendicularly pissed off right now!!!!!!

by pxilpooshr on Apr 23, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

yep

every single god forsaken time

by tjv on Apr 23, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why don't we send a message?

We’re like this little kid who gets pushed on the playground. We’re always reacting to what the other guy does, but by then he already knows he’s got us.

I would love to see SOMEONE on this team send a message. A hard pick, a nasty foul, whatever. Get a tech. Get a flagrant. I don’t care. Just do SOMETHING. With three minutes to play in a ridiculous game like that, I want someone to put Nash on his ass.

I think this starts with Nate. I too often see him standing idly on the side with his arms crossed, lost in his own thoughts. Sometimes I think he doesn’t really inspire passionate play. He’ll probably hoo-haw to the press about how we need more effort when he should be lambasting anything and everything in sight—from the refs right on down to Rudy’s ridiculous play (though better tonight). Goodness, SVG got fined for calling out the refs and his team WON!

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Apr 22, 2010 10:33 PM PDT reply actions  

He was trying to get a T in the first

Really trying but they wouldn’t give it to him.

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by skywaker9 on Apr 22, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Try is an excuse for failure.

Sometimes you gotta make a statement and fire up your team at the cost of a point. He should be taking is coat off and throwing it on the court or something ridiculous if his message isn’t getting there.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Apr 22, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

What I hope you meant to say is tighten up the defense by rotating to the weak side to maintain a more balanced 3 v 3, or offering mature solutions to the questions now facing the Portland’s game. But to advocate violence as the answer is just as immature as it gets.

To the other 99% of the replies, thanks for keeping it clean and interesting to read.

by RogerM on Apr 23, 2010 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing not clean about this.

The point is the Suns are doing it to us right now. Right now we’re just standing and taking it. Somebodies got to hit back at some point.

If the team can’t get fired up enough for these games on their own, then somebody needs to fire them up artificially. Happens all the time in the playoffs.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Apr 23, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting analysis

Do you really think a hard foul on Nash would work? Last time someone did that the Suns kicked the sh!t out of them that game. And Amare isn’t as stupid as he was then so no walking off the bench.

That being said, I do get the idea that you want to send a message hard. A few flagrants would work I think. Get Howard out there to pound Hill or something like that. It might work on Grant since he is older. Or maybe Rich. Just don’t hurt anyone. We need everyone for the next round.

Reading is good...

by N8lol on Apr 23, 2010 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Suns lost that series.

But honestly I don’t care if it’s Nash or someone else.

And I would prefer the message come from Aldridge. It’d be nice to get something from him.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Apr 23, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not Nash

Stoudemire or Richardson. Nash won’t get rattled and the team would just rally around him because he’s the PG/star/small guy. You make Nash look like a hero if you deck him. You make Stoudemire look like a fuzzy kitty cat for not fighting back if you hit him.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 23, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well...

That double knee, double fist, flying ball that Richard Pryor did on Amare fits the bill. I’m not complaining or saying it was dirty (nothing compares to what the Spurs have done in terms of cheap shots) but it was pretty hard. I thought that would have sent a statement but it seemed to be glazed over.

by Jared15 on Apr 23, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

BONNNNNG

I need about 4 of those myself.

by Escrote on Apr 22, 2010 10:33 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

i 2nd that

Rip City. can't be stopped. twenty-ten.

by BlazinTrails on Apr 22, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

3rd

Geriatric Dunk Squad!
3/7/10 - Andre Miller Tomahawk jams on the Denver Nuggets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JVgm7F1QA
1/4/10 - Juwan Howard dunks on Chris Kaman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkOqDgLb6s
4/12/10 - Marcus Camby drops 30 and 13 on OKC to cement 50 wins.
http://www.nba.com/blazers/media/camby_chant_041310.mp3

by Eat Politicians on Apr 23, 2010 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

" when all I want is the Blazers to get to the second round…"

If we don’t make the 2nd round it may turn out to be like just barely missing a bus. Roy and Batum could be healthy for a 2nd round, who knows if they got there they just might knock off the Mavs or Spurs. But I think the odds are slim of pulling out this series.

by lsjogren on Apr 22, 2010 10:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I just got home

That was NOT worse than Game 1 last year vs. Houston although it felt like it would be at half.

Those of us who were there tonight deserve an A++++++++ for effort, we were cheering down 19 in the 4th like it was a 1 point game with a minute left.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Apr 22, 2010 10:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Man It got really loud during that run we had.

Just a few more free throws man. Just a few more to keep the momentum going.

I feel good about them showing some fight during that run. Just can’t spot teams 30pt leads.

Blazers 1.
Bad Guys 1.

by DaNoose on Apr 22, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was there too

The crowd was amazing, all things considered, and after Rudy’s hot streak, we were going nuts (I lost my voice). Unfortunately at that point it was too little too late.

by nnz0122 on Apr 23, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

“I would love to see SOMEONE on this team send a message”

There was that one memorable game in the regular season like that. Trying to remember who it was against, Pistons maybe? The one where Juwan Howard mixed it up, which lit a fire under the team’s butt and led to a victory.

by lsjogren on Apr 22, 2010 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

juwan howard is not the answer….

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

Super Rodgers Bros.

#52

by cloudydays on Apr 22, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

Howard gives us a jumper and a couple fouls whenever someone is one on one against him. I think Pendergraph and Cunningham can do all he can do and more.

by collectiveshane on Apr 22, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

also he can’t move his feet, and thus is an extreme liability on defense

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

Super Rodgers Bros.

#52

by cloudydays on Apr 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was on that particular night.

by lsjogren on Apr 22, 2010 10:36 PM PDT reply actions  

On the plus side, LA got pissed off for about the first time ever

With Amare. Zaching punk.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Apr 22, 2010 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Then Nate IMMEDIATELY Pulled Him

We got outcoached — AGAIN!!!!!!

What adjustments did we make as team this game? Any?

The only reason why we came back in the fourth quarter was because we did two things we hadn;t been doing:

1- Shooters had screens. — It’s easy to blame Rudy, but NO ONE has been setting screens for him — NO ONE.
2-We started trying to get to the rim!!!

If we come out next game and start off with three straight possessions to Aldridge for fade aways — even if they go in — I’ll want Nate gone. Maybe he can coach in the regular season, and keep the players motivated, but he can’t adjust — it seems — from game to game.

by Anim8rguy on Apr 22, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah pretty much our entire section

was yelling at guys to attack the first half. SO frustrating.

When they finally did start attacking, I was just thinking, why does it take for us to be down 30 to start this? All the pregame shows and analysis say the same thing. Attack the lane. Attack Nash. I don’t get it.

Blazers 1.
Bad Guys 1.

by DaNoose on Apr 22, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

They didn't attack the rim after the first few minutes in the game until 6 minutes left in the half

I’m no basketball genius, but if your shots aren’t falling for 2 1/2 quarters, you start to drive to the basket.

Then, after the 6 minute mark, they stopped driving again until late in the second half.

by Anim8rguy on Apr 22, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

The whole series hinges on Rudy

If he can produce in both halves like he did right towards the end of the game and pick it up on the defensive end, we have a shot. If not, we’re toast. Also, I like Juwan Howard as a person, but we need a lot more Cunningham and Pendergraph in the rest of this series.

by adaoh on Apr 22, 2010 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree totally

There is no reason for Juwan to get more then 2 minutes a game at this point. and Rudy needs to be attempting 12-15 confident shots per game

by collectiveshane on Apr 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He ddin't want to shoot

Although there was one possession in the third were Rudy was little jumping up and down wide open waving and no one saw him.

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by skywaker9 on Apr 22, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

there were a

 couple of times when the guys didn’t seem to want to pass it to him.

Blazers 1.
Bad Guys 1.

by DaNoose on Apr 22, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

must have been frustrating

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by Philthyanimal on Apr 22, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I noticed that too

losing confidence in teammates=recipe for disaster

by nnz0122 on Apr 23, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cunningham

I think using Dante in place of Howard would probably be a smart move.

Not sure about Pendy, he got some playing time for a while but his defense was pretty spotty, in some cases Nate had to yank him after a couple minutes because of opponents getting uncontested shots at the rim.

But I think if he works on some things in the off season he may be a rotation caliber player next year.

by lsjogren on Apr 22, 2010 10:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed, Dante over Howard

However, I would like to see Pendergraph get a few minutes here and there just to do a hatchet job on Amare

by adaoh on Apr 22, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I kept screaming “GET HIM IN THE EYE” but it wasn’t until Andre nailed him in the fourth that they finally did it!

Seriously, though, while it was nice that they played better down the stretch, I really wanted the Blazers to leave a mark on a bunch of the Phoenix players that they’d see tomorrow.

We’ve got to get physical and take the fouls.

Richardson should have been knocked down to start the second half. Sorry, but that’s the way you play this game physically. McMillan better instill some “kick-ass” into our team by Saturday.

by Anim8rguy on Apr 22, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that is a little extreme...

I mean, Amare has had more problems individually than Portland has had as a team. But he is resilient. You gotta admire that about him the way you expect everyone to admire it about you as a team. He isn’t a dirty player and doesn’t talk (maybe a little). Its not like he is KG here.

Reading is good...

by N8lol on Apr 23, 2010 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, but...

this was a true test. I was at the game and half way through the second quarter I was childishly contemplating walking out. A combination of booze and Martell Webster kept me in my seat. I still cheered but man, I am not happy. Thanks for being classy with your big win.

by blizzard_80 on Apr 22, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can someone

Upload Rudy’s 4th quarter heroics? I need to go to sleep on a positive note.

by Eddie. on Apr 22, 2010 11:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah those were incredible.

I hope they boosted his confidence. If so, we can almost guarantee a Game 4 win.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 22, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. In 40 years I don't remember 6 consecutive playoff quarters that bad.

-58 points over 6 quarters???

The capper for me was taking an intentional foul with 11 seconds left in the first half, adding stupidity to poor effort.

Lots of questions to answer when this series is over.

"Brandon eats first around here" - KP

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Apr 22, 2010 11:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Too bad we won't be able to answer them until, like, July

because if this game is any indication, we’re going to the Finals baby!

by thetsaiguy on Apr 22, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

the last 2 were at least a little encouraging… something to build on (something very little and paper like, but still)

by The Arkitect on Apr 22, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

i forogot about that

that is the second time now Martel pulled that one

by MPP24 on Apr 23, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll take that bet

He won;t play. It must kill him, but face it — we ain;t going anywhere this season unless the guys already on the floor play like a bunch of wild dogs.

They gotta get physical. If the Sun’s players want to score, they have to learn that there is a price to that.

by Anim8rguy on Apr 22, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

We've been hoping for a team with attitude for years (with this group). I doubt it's gonna happen.

The only one I thought who would really get into it was Jarret Jack but he’s gone. And maybe Blake, but he’s gone too. Of course these guys didn’t play physical, but at they could go pyscho if pissed off enough.

by Stryder9 on Apr 22, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

No reason given to my knowledge.

Nate seemed to feel Juwan was the best guy to be on the court.

by Timmay! on Apr 22, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was

openly asking the television at that point why Marcus Camby wasn’t on the court. Juwan Howard was left in the game to continue to deliver the message to Amare Stoudemire??? Did Nate forget that Marcus Camby played for Portland? It was perplexing to say the least.

by pistil_stamen on Apr 22, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

we needed offense.

Juwan hit a few big shots…

"im ready for a fight..." -Joel Przybilla

by KillaPrzydollaBILLA on Apr 22, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Camby was 3-7, Juwan 2-4.from the field.

Not a huge difference in those raw shooting numbers.

by Timmay! on Apr 23, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

God

I hope not. Portland needs to find a way to win with the team they have…he’ll feel the need to do too much too soon. His teammates will end up deferring to him and the offense will stagnate to an even greater extent. The biggest asset to his game is his deceptively quick moves to get into the paint…I just can’t see someone who had surgery on his knee 8 days prior being all that effective.

by pistil_stamen on Apr 23, 2010 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dre was invisible tonight

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by fajunga on Apr 22, 2010 11:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Have to hand it to the Suns.

Running double teams at the only guy who can create off the dribble is pretty much the best strategy ever. I’m not sure why I didn’t see that coming.

by Nick Van Excellent on Apr 22, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

So true.

Our team looks so thin sometimes. The only other guy who can create off the dribble is, like, BRoy.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 22, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think

that strategy can be countered with better passing and movement without the ball. It’s 4 on 3 at that point, and one of them is likely Steve Nash. Someone is open somewhere on the court. Last I checked, Phoenix wasn’t exactly a defensive juggernaut. What was shocking was the lack of adjustment on the part of Portland to counter.

by pistil_stamen on Apr 22, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

True enough

I really expected McMillan to have workout the kinks the Suns threw at them in game 2. When we opened up with such a huge run I was a little confused. Is McMillan failing you guys here? Or is it simply lack of personnel? What do you think is going on?

Reading is good...

by N8lol on Apr 23, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a little of both

Obviously, the effort last night was disgraceful, and no amount of tactical adjustment could have covered that up.

OTOT, we are not a pick and roll team. When we run those pick and rolls, it just allows you guys to double Andre, and everyone gets confused and out of position. Usually what we use is a flex cut, with Camby holding the ball at the top of the key feeding to one of the guards (usually Miller) who looks to feed Aldridge in the post. The problem is, Nate’s not comfortable with Rudy initiating this set, and Miller is being doubled off the ball so he can’t get it back in position to feed the post. Bayless is more like Roy, and takes some pressure off Miller to initiate the sets we normally run. Nate seems stuck with Rudy starting though.

by atomiccafe on Apr 23, 2010 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

That actually helps a lot in terms of understanding what is going on for the Blazers. Good stuff.

Reading is good...

by N8lol on Apr 23, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

well that sucked

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
1 down, 15 to go
come back brandon

by thomasikehara on Apr 22, 2010 11:59 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Well it's easy to see how we lost this in the first quarter....

MAR-CUS CAM-BY clap-clap-clapclapclap
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by postup on Apr 23, 2010 12:09 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Hmmm. Who do I know that plays on that side of the floor. Tall guy. Shoots jumpers. Nope, it escapes me.

I am perpendicularly pissed off right now!!!!!!

by pxilpooshr on Apr 23, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a little worried

After that performance Brandon might try even harder to come back and push himself too hard. I know he can’t really worsen his knee, but if he’s favoring it at all, it could lead to other injuries.

by tjv on Apr 23, 2010 1:03 AM PDT reply actions  

That was very yucky.

Miller, Camby and Howard FTW. Love me the geezers.

by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 23, 2010 5:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Reason for optimism? Really?!

I guess I don’t understand why there is reason for hope (or why Suns fans are concerned) based on the third quarter. The Suns at that point couldn’t have possibly be taking the game seriously, right? Once they needed to, they put the game away.

I’m afraid I’m going to have to stick to my pre series prediction of Suns in five. :(

unless someone can help me understand why I should be hopeful.

Though I am hopeful for next season, if we can get a credible backup ball handler pg.

by Cepstrum on Apr 23, 2010 6:09 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Nate kills me....

Is there a rule in the NBA that states “2 fouls and you have to check out of the game”? I mean, could there be a bigger game than the one last night for the Blazers? Forget the fact that you are already 14 points down, but to pull LMA and Miller because of two fouls?!? It’s all hands on deck time NATE!

For the record, note that LMA finished the game with 2 fouls and Miller 3………..

2-4 the who

by 24thewho on Apr 23, 2010 7:22 AM PDT reply actions  

hindsight blah blah blah

had Nate left either in and they pick up another foul you’d burn him on the cross for that too

by Billy Hoyle on Apr 23, 2010 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking it at the time

Juwan Howard was absolutely one of the primary reasons we were down double digits after the first quarter.

by atomiccafe on Apr 23, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wrong...

I would say that he adjusted to hat needed to be done. Instead Nate the same thing he would have done against the Clippers in game 30 up the season….

2-4 the who

by 24thewho on Apr 23, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wrong.

There is nothing wrong with playing a guy with 2 fouls early in the game. We almost never have anyone foul out of a game anyhow. And, if he does foul out in a close 4th Quarter, who cares? At least it’s a close 4th Quarter. Our young guys don’t learn how to play smart with fouls and our vets, like Andre, obviously already know, but the coaching staff doesn’t seem to realize that. Also, if a guy fouls out in the 4th, you get a free timeout equivalent and usually someone steps up to effectively take his place, b/c they realize that it is on them to pick up the slack for the guy who was out there busting his butt all game picking up the 6 fouls. This is not a chess game — it is man’s basketball!!!!

by BlazersAx on Apr 23, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe other coaches aren't 14 points down at the time....

Nate’s team was. For example, why do coaches hold the ball and run out the 24 second shot clock at the end of the 1st quarter?? I don’t know, but Nate does that all the time as well, and so do other coaches, and it drives me NUTS!

2-4 the who

by 24thewho on Apr 23, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a time and place ...

Look, I don’t want to come off as thinking I could do a better job than Sarge or any other coach. And, I like Sarge and think he has done a great job. So, I’m talking about my disagreement with what I see as the overly-formulaic application of pulling guys when they have a certain number of fouls at a certain point in the game. If you have depth and/or you aren’t in danger of getting blown out, sit the guy down long enough to get him some rest and get his brain around making play-adjustments so it’s less likely that he eventually fouls out.
    However, when you’re getting your butt kicked for the previous five quarters and you have no other production to speak of from the 4 or other leadership to speak of from the 1, it doesn’t seem to make sense to take those guys out. Let them raise their game to another level and make the adjustments. Let the referees do their usual bit of being reluctant to foul guys out. Let the opposing team get out of their normal flow by taking crazy drives at LA trying to draw the foul and throw up a crappy shot.
     That’s what I’m saying. Sorry if comment number one included too much hubris — thanks for keeping me in line.

by BlazersAx on Apr 23, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

its not that he took la out

but puting howard in was the mistake

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
1 down, 15 to go
come back brandon

by thomasikehara on Apr 23, 2010 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

One thing that really bugged me about this game

was that a lot of Phoenix’s zone defense was illegal defense. I started counting 3 seconds on a number of defenders who’s man was well outside the painted area…unfortunately the refs never seemed to notice

by Billy Hoyle on Apr 23, 2010 8:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Paging Nate McMillan

I love Nate and if I had a vote he would have been my NBA Coach of the Year. That said he’s getting KILLED by A.Gentry this series. Yeah i know the Blazers are down Roy and Batum. But until the Suns made their adjustment on Miller this series was a wash. Give me something different man!! Make the Suns matchup with you!! Gimme some Dante out there instaed of Rudy or Bayless. What? Dante isnt as good a preimeter defender as Rudy? What he can’t score like Rudy? He can’t shoot from the perimeter like bayless? Huh? Force JRich onto Miller, or better yet Nash onto Miller. We saw how badly JRich’s offense suffered when forced to defend in game 1. Go big, play physical and crash the boards. They can’t run if they dont have the ball. Just try something. Get Pendy for a few mins to pour some hotsauce on a couple guys. I know Nate loves Howard but the guy cant play anymore and is an AWEFUL matchup problem in this series. The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

by SerenityNow! on Apr 23, 2010 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

We need to duplicate their second half run on Saturday.

When Portland showed aggression Phoenix started to turnover the ball, lose their rhythm, and become visibly rattled. If I’m not mistaken they had more turnovers than portland at the end of the night. We also need to MAKE THOSE FREE THROWS. That REALLY killed us. We could have had a decent chance had we kept up and made those critical free throws. Come out fighting on Saturday Portland….we KNOW you can do it!!

by nnz0122 on Apr 23, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have zero confidence

that the Blazers will come ready to play on Saturday. They have been pathetic these last 2 games, totally outclassed. As someone above said, I can take them losing as long as they show up and compete but they haven’t done that. The playoffs are where you find out what kind of players and team you really have and the Blazers just don’t seem built for the playoffs, LA in particular. That guy is soft ,soft and soft.

by crazybee on Apr 23, 2010 10:35 AM PDT reply actions  

And he frightens easily

in the double team.

"Oh, and Ted, give my love to the Princesses. Ted2: Who? Ted: You'll see." - Ted Theodore Logan.

by RedUniInLA on Apr 23, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

187 comments

What an appropriate number.

"Oh, and Ted, give my love to the Princesses. Ted2: Who? Ted: You'll see." - Ted Theodore Logan.

by RedUniInLA on Apr 23, 2010 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Bottom line

IMO the bottom line is that with Roy out the Blazers only have two legitimate consistent scoring threats. That’s just too easy to defend (the same problem we had offensively against Houston last year). Phoenix will continue to key on Miller and Aldridge and let the other guys try to beat them…which I don’t think they can. Some combination of Webster, Bayless and Fernandez can catch fire for a game, but over the long run, the Blazers just don’t have the weapons.

On the defensive end, with Batum out, we have one A-level defender. That ain’t going to cut it against a team with a point guard the caliber of Nash. He’ll find those holes all night every night.

The only position the Blazers have an advantage is Center, and he’s not a scorer.

by tiesque on Apr 23, 2010 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

You have pretty much hit it

The Blazers (and all of us) are scrambling for work-arounds but that’s the basic problem.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 23, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even with Roy it might not be enough

We have 3 guys who score above league average: Roy, Miller, and Aldridge. The Suns have 5, with a 6th close. Unless Oden becomes a great offensive weapon, we’re still one scorer short, preferably one who scores inside. Nic could become it, but not in this system where scoring happens more on pure talent than on system. And all of that is before discussing transition defense and pick and roll defense. Disillusioning two games. It’s just like last year.

by Norsktroll on Apr 23, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

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