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Miller doesn't fit with Portland. He'll never fit. You know it. I know it. The Blazers players know it. And even though Miller's been successful on the court in spurts, and played lots of minutes, all along this Miller-Blazers marriage was headed toward a blow-up encounter that was fueled by mutual frustration.

~ John Canzano January 7th, 2010

Lets all take this moment and enjoy this win and this hilarious/ironic/horrible article Canzano wrote back in January about Andre Miller.

[READ AND LAUGH AT THE FULL ARTICLE HERE]

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Clownzano + Batum - Clownzano = awesome

by RyanRTE on Apr 19, 2010 12:57 AM PDT reply actions  

There is a reason

he lives up to his name and reputation, he knows very little about the subjects he spouts off about. Just a wanna b shock jock. If you listen to him for free, you get exactly what you pay for.

by blazinagain on Apr 19, 2010 1:03 AM PDT reply actions  

...

Yup, I hate to be mean but I do not believe in drama queen journalism. The day I read this article I thought it was funny and every game it makes me laugh even more, especially looking at Andre Miller being consistent his whole career.

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by brandonmitchell on Apr 19, 2010 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Canzano in full back-pedal mode now.

He’s putting NFL DBs to shame at this point.

"I think he’s been doing some good things. I think he’s been doing some good things. He’s had to play a lot of minutes lately with Blake being out. I think he’s been doing some good things." -Nate McMillan

by xedubx on Apr 19, 2010 1:09 AM PDT reply actions  

This is how the article starts:

“Blame Trail Blazers point guard Andre Miller if you want today. Or blame coach Nate McMillan. Or maybe, as was suggested by a friend of mine, blame the carpenters for installing the thin doors at the practice facility that allowed multiple media members to overhear a troubling exchange between player and coach on Thursday.

But before all that, blame Trail Blazers management. "

He should have summed it up by saying: “but ultimately blame me for being such an attention-seeking w***e”

by llublazerfan on Apr 19, 2010 2:04 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

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The best quote of the article in my opinion actually…

Management would have you believe that what transpired on Thursday in Tualatin is a normal, healthy part of regular NBA dialogue. That growth and understanding will come from shouting and cussing, and that the media is overblowing the incident. That’s what they’ll attempt to sell to you, and to owner Paul Allen. And if they’re not ready to get real this situation will never fix itself.

What’s true is that general manager Kevin Pritchard, who made so many good decisions before the strange signing of Miller, caused this crisis and must now fix it.

The bold part is something I will never forget. IRONY

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- www.portugaltheman.com

by brandonmitchell on Apr 19, 2010 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

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ugh they really need an edit option or something…

“What’s true is that general manager Kevin Pritchard, who made so many good decisions before the strange signing of Miller, caused this crisis and must now fix it.”

is not suppose to be outside the quote box.

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- www.portugaltheman.com

by brandonmitchell on Apr 19, 2010 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

such an attention-seeking w***e"/strong>

All you need to say about our friend John. You know what they say, “If you are going to walk the streets you need to learn to where high heals.”

If Canzano was at good at offering insight into sports as he is figuring out an angle, he would actually be good.

by upper left corner on Apr 19, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He definitely fits better than the beat up Roy we had for the 2nd half of the season.

However, Bayless, Martell, and Rudy are not improvements over a beat up Roy right now. (credit to Bayless stepping up last night)

by Bskey on Apr 19, 2010 3:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dear Canzano

Suck it.

Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!

"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"

by Andrew Tolliver on Apr 19, 2010 6:17 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

This is beautiful...

… right up there with his “Draft the Stache” campaign instead of Brandon Roy because the city deserves it.

And don’t forget when he thought Paul Allen was such a horrible, vile person that he volunteered to personally pack his bags if he’d sell the team and leave Portland.

Buck Williams for the hall of fame

by Phizbin on Apr 19, 2010 6:52 AM PDT reply actions  

How about Jason Quick saying 'Dre was just here for the money???

Never did see him apologize for that one.

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Apr 19, 2010 6:56 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Yes. Quick too often gets a pass

Just because he’s less obnoxious than the Baldheaded Twerp (and writes competently) doesn’t mean he’s tolerable. We Blazer fans—and the team—deserve better than these self-important hacks.

I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.

by hurryup09 on Apr 20, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you for the post...

I love when blowhards are held accountable. I’d do it myself, but I’m boycotting the moron.

by lickety brindle on Apr 19, 2010 7:02 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

living it up

“There is a reason he lives up to his name and reputation, he knows very little about the subjects he spouts off about.”

When you say he lives up to his name, you do realize his real name is not actually Clownzano?

by lsjogren on Apr 19, 2010 7:33 AM PDT reply actions  

the biggest absurdity

The thing that was most absurd about that article by the Clown was that in my view it’s not even a situation where he had a case to make but was subsequently proven wrong by how well Miller played in the latter part of the season.

Miller in my view had already played a crucial role in keeping the Blazers alive at the time of the article.

by lsjogren on Apr 19, 2010 7:41 AM PDT reply actions  

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Management would have you believe that what transpired on Thursday in Tualatin is a normal, healthy part of regular NBA dialogue. That growth and understanding will come from shouting and cussing, and that the media is overblowing the incident.

Another thing about this quote that just made me sick was the fact in 2007 when the Blazers went on a 13 game winning streak the big thing that caused it was a big argument involving the team that resulted in Steve Blake throwing a chair and players cussing at eachother. This sparked something and changed everything and since then the Blazers are up and coming and the rose garden has sold out every game since.

So yes the media was overblowing the incident with Miller. There is no denying it anymore. LONG LIVE ANDRE MILLER

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- www.portugaltheman.com

by brandonmitchell on Apr 19, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

miller>canzono

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America

by thomasikehara on Apr 19, 2010 8:36 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

rec

Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.

by Net Ranger on Apr 19, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Basketball > Hee Haw

"I'm passing it down," Howard said. "Showing the guys that, hey, here's an example of a guy who played 16 years. If you don't want to listen and get the valuable, free information from him - soak it up like a sponge - then you've got to be a damn fool."

by LaoTzu on Apr 20, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love them both

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Apr 20, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has already admitted to eating crow over this issue.

He’s talked about it on several occasions on his show. He knows he was wrong.

"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."

by Arby on Apr 19, 2010 8:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Perhaps... but he doesn't change

He’s been wrong a number of times. And he probably has admitted it each time.

What I don’t like—in fact, find reprehensible—is that he doesn’t change his yellow-journalistic style of pitchfork rabble-rousing the next time something rolls around. During the Tom Penn issue, he was once again railing against Paul Allen—as if he hadn’t six weeks before lauded himi as the greatest owner in sports—only 12 months after offering to pack his bags for him.

In order to be truly wrong and recalcitrant, you have to first have a committed position (he doesn’t, he just wants to inflame) and second, change (which he clearly hasn’t).

Instead, he continues to exhibit everything wrong with sports media.

Buck Williams for the hall of fame

by Phizbin on Apr 19, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

I agree.

However, to be a collumnist in his position, you can’t make middle of the road, audience appeasing statements and expect to be respected as a journalist. If you pander to the crowd, you’re seen as spineless and a sell out.

While many of his opinions have been wrong, I applaud him for not taking the easy road and simply copping out and saying what fans want to hear.

You also have to keep in mind that situations change. If Paul Allen changes his attitude/beliefs/actions, doesn’t that give Canzano a right to change his opinion of him? It’s not unlike being a fan of the Blazers… I wasn’t big on the acquisition of Miller, but I’ve come around. I don’t see why changing of opinions, or “flip-flopping” as most people call it, is a bad thing.

"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."

by Arby on Apr 19, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is he respected & by who

I quit reading his crap years ago, wouldn’t have even known about that article if it wasn’t posted here.

Somebody step up! - Mike Rice

by We-B-Dunkin on Apr 19, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, he won the 2009 sports journalist of the year award

so obviously some people respect him.

"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."

by Arby on Apr 19, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Had you ever heard of that award before The Baldheaded Twerp started touting his having won it?

I’ll bet that if you were to research that award you’d learn that it’s an industry joke. Kinda like the Golden Globes used to be when they were outright bought & paid for.

I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.

by hurryup09 on Apr 20, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

All he does is pander to the crowd

When fans are happy, JC tells them they should be happy. When fans are panicked, JC pushes the panic button harder. That’s his whole schtick: he just tries to validate popular opinion. That’s why he is wrong so often, because he just goes along with the most emotionally unstable fans.

by sanjait on Apr 19, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait
While many of his opinions have been wrong, I applaud him for not taking the easy road and simply copping out and saying what fans want to hear.

So penning an article (that he quite obviously had no first-hand knowledge about) regarding a blow-up argument between a polarizing player (at the time) and his coach isn’t taking the easy road? Seems to me that the story pretty much wrote itself, no? “Not taking the easy road” would have been defending Andre Miller and realizing his value to the team as a leader. But, then again, I think John is just another writer who probably has never been involved with a single athletic team-oriented activity in his life, so he wouldn’t know good leadership if it smacked him in the face.

by pistil_stamen on Apr 21, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey lets be fair

 A LOT OF BE’ers said similar things! I can’t believe I’m going to say this but I don’t blame Canzano for this. The Blazers were not using him correctly for most of the season. Starting Blake was an absolute joke. Playing Bayless equal minutes was even worse. Roy complaining about him from the second he got to the city was equally unfair and immature.

it wasn’t until the blow up with McMillan in January , that McMillan started using him correctly. if he wouldn’t have changed it then I would not be surprised if Blake was still here and we would not have Camby.

C*mcast sucks!

by Blazermaniac77 on Apr 19, 2010 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Hey, you know, it makes you wonder doesn't it?

What if Andre didn’t blow up at Nate? Would things still “work themselves out?”

by Stryder9 on Apr 19, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't recall Roy complaining

He expressed doubts about him, yes, but it’s unlike Roy to complain about anything.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 19, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

he actively campaigned to not have him start

that’s more or less saying he didn’t want to play with him.

by colinmarsh on Apr 19, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh ok

Glad things have changed then.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 19, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup

honestly i still dont feel like andre and roy play “well” together…they’ve just found a way to coexist is all. seems like andre has better chemistry with everyone on the team than he does with roy

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"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden

by Philthyanimal on Apr 19, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because they can both create their own shots

Andre can set up every other player on the roster on the offense, but Roy doesn’t need that. He’s capable of creating his own shots. As a result, Andre doesn’t rack up a ton of assists on Roy. But Roy has never needed someone who can “assist him.” Andre was brought in so they could have another penetrator to help get points, as well as boost the offense. So Roy and Andre coexisting is pretty much their way of geling. And we’re such a dangerous team because they’ve found a way to do so. I love it!

by thetsaiguy on Apr 19, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

well travis created his own shots as well

but there seemed to be more harmony with those 2…i’m not so certain its that they can create their own shots, but bc they both dominate the ball and that they play at different paces.

"There was a time when this blog was for intelligent BASKETBALL fans. It has unfortunately become O-Live 2…" ~Ilikeemall

"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden

by Philthyanimal on Apr 19, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a combination of both

But you’re right, it’s more so that both dominate the ball.

I wouldn’t say they have any chemistry issues though: http://www.columbian.com/weblogs/blazerbanter/2010/apr/04/roy-miller-develop-blind-trust-and-blazers-follow/

by thetsaiguy on Apr 19, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm not saying its bad chemistry

i’m just saying that andre seems to have better harmony with everyone on the team than he does with roy….he had better chemistry with camby the very first day he donned a portland jersey (yes i know they used to be teammates), than he has had with roy all year.

"There was a time when this blog was for intelligent BASKETBALL fans. It has unfortunately become O-Live 2…" ~Ilikeemall

"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden

by Philthyanimal on Apr 19, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah ok.

I can see that, especially because the plays we run don’t allow them to cross paths as much.

by thetsaiguy on Apr 19, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's funny that in Phoenix the other day, it was having two penetrating guards on the floor in the 4th Qtr that helped win it for us

Roy and Miller, much?

"I'm passing it down," Howard said. "Showing the guys that, hey, here's an example of a guy who played 16 years. If you don't want to listen and get the valuable, free information from him - soak it up like a sponge - then you've got to be a damn fool."

by LaoTzu on Apr 20, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some people love holding a grudge

The less time we spend picking apart 3 month old opinion puff pieces, the better

Holding out for Hedo

by T$ 225 on Apr 19, 2010 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

If it was a one time thing, that would be different.

We need this Clown out of here.

"I'm passing it down," Howard said. "Showing the guys that, hey, here's an example of a guy who played 16 years. If you don't want to listen and get the valuable, free information from him - soak it up like a sponge - then you've got to be a damn fool."

by LaoTzu on Apr 20, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

His radio show is a waste

He does not like to focus on pure sports for his show. Always looks for the human element or some special controversey. What about the events from a SPORTS angle? I much prefer when canzano is not on the show. Barrett or anyone else is better. At least they talk about sports.

by LicketyBrindleDowntheMiddle on Apr 19, 2010 10:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I much prefer Isaac & Zuke over @ 1080 The Fan

Canzano sometimes has some pretty good interviews but his commentary isn’t work the listen.

I quit listening to him altogether when he claimed to have some grounded breaking info on the Tom Penn / KP situation only to be a bullhorn for their agent.

Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.

by Net Ranger on Apr 19, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

a lot of radio shows

talk about other things other than sports…Jim Rome is a good example.

"There was a time when this blog was for intelligent BASKETBALL fans. It has unfortunately become O-Live 2…" ~Ilikeemall

"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden

by Philthyanimal on Apr 19, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly don't hate Canzano

but he does tend to way overreact.

After the Boise St and Purdue games, the Ducks weren’t going to make a bowl game but after the USC game we were the best team in the country.

A couple months ago it was “the Blazers should play the L*kers because there was absolutely no chance we’d get out of the first round anyway.”

He is a drama queen.

Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!

by axel360 on Apr 19, 2010 2:09 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

He has a simple algorithm

He looks on message boards for what emotional fans are saying, and he writes a column to tell them how justified their emotions are. His reporting mostly consists of telling us how the situation “feels” (probably his favorite word).

by sanjait on Apr 19, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which saves him the trouble of actually thinking or researching reality over emotion

"I'm passing it down," Howard said. "Showing the guys that, hey, here's an example of a guy who played 16 years. If you don't want to listen and get the valuable, free information from him - soak it up like a sponge - then you've got to be a damn fool."

by LaoTzu on Apr 20, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

you have to admit, the man is consistent

it’s remarkable that he can be wrong 100 percent of the time. i don’t think i could do that even if i was trying to be on purpose. purely amazing.

by ratzo on Apr 19, 2010 2:51 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for posting this

I really hope JC reads this thread and reacts to it on air.

Very often he speaks before thinking on the BFT which can be very entertaining, it’s why I tune in, I love the spontaneity. However, when he wrote this column I was wondering if he was losing his mind or if he just wanted to be critical to create contention among Blazer fans. That’s not hindsight talking either. I think most people understood the benefit of having a seasoned vet like Miller at PG. Even if they were skeptical I never heard anyone else saying that he’ll never fit and that the whole organization knows it.

There was another article John wrote questioning BRoy’s leadership because he was going into the tunnel during the national anthem to pray. To me it seemed obvious that JC was just trying to get under people’s skin.

John can be provocative and create healthy debate but when he makes sensational remarks like these he loses credibility in my eyes and goes from “60 minutes” to “TMZ”.

Mess with the game, it'll mess with you.

by MBux on Apr 19, 2010 3:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I think it's easy to hate most journalists

and they will always be wrong. Even when they are right you can usually find something that contradicts them.

C*mcast sucks!

by Blazermaniac77 on Apr 21, 2010 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

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