Something's not right
by DCBlazerinPDX on Mar 8, 2010 8:42 AM PST
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PrintWatching last night's game, and the commentators remarked that BRoy was "back healthy" again, after being one of several Blazers to have missed significant time this season. I don't know 'bout that. Brandon's lack of mobility and quickness is painfully evident to me, and gives me deeper concerns than even just wondering how the rest of this season plays out. At this time, I think it is fair to say that Brandon is a defensive liability, and possibly an offensive liability as well when it comes to playing teams that know how to defend. How many open looks did Broy create for himself last night? No wonder his shooting line was dreadful! Hope he will spend a lot of time in the pool this summer doing hydro therapy to build back up those hammies..
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he had a bad game
kobe went 12-30 yesterday.
Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
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12 for 30 is different than 3 for 14
and Brandon is different than Kobe
by Theghostofsomeonefamous on Mar 8, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
doesnt change the fact
that the best player on each team missed a lot of shots
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by thomasikehara on Mar 8, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
the dirreence is that Kobe does that all the time
where as Roy dosen’t. the point is that Roy doesn’t look like he usually does where AS kOBE LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE HE USUALLY DOES
the difference is
Kobe makes an effort on the defensive end when his shooting is off.
"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.
Kobe's a far better defender, and even Brandon knows it.
(doesn’t change the fact that Chobe’s smug smirk makes me pukey, of course)
I'm not talking about who's better,
Rather in who makes an effort.
"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.
It looked to me
like the refs were letting the Nuggets put a lot of body on Roy when he drove to the rim (creating extra misses … credit to them). He did have a poor shooting night but didn’t seem to get much love either.
Denver is really good.
When they play against a team that has no center they’re even better.
I long for the time when we have a starting lineup that includes a center and plays in 20 consecutive games together. SIGH.
An offensive rebound in paragraph form. -Mr. Golliver
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Mar 8, 2010 8:49 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
a center dosen't help Roy on the make shots
in fact as we saw with Oden it probably hurts Roys ability to get easy shots some. I agree with DCblazer Roy doesn’t look the same.
A center can help the star player (Roy) not draw a double team any time he comes within 20 feet of the hoop.
So yes, a center CAN help Roy make shots.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
ummm.
Joel and Oden <<<< Aldridge and Howard when it comes to scoring options. (if you take away the buckets that oden got of rebounds it is even more of a difference)
Roy and Miller also looked imcompatible at the seasons start.
That ended up working itself out, just as the Oden/Roy thing would’ve.
My longing for a mainstay at center, other than to, you know, have one, is mostly so that the unit as a whole has an identity. The lineup changes so often; do any of these guys ever really find their comfort levels?
An offensive rebound in paragraph form. -Mr. Golliver
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Mar 8, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
also, as I see it...
the Blazers offense wasn’t the problem. They scored well over their average at 106, even with BRoy taking the night off.
The problem was allowing 118 points. I think it’s easy to correlate between playing no center and allowing that many points, many of which came in close.
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by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Mar 8, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
We've been doing so well that many people forget that we don't have a center.
But against physical teams, it really shows. Opponent’s shooting percentages go through the roof when they realize that we don’t have the personnel healthy to defend the paint at all. That’s never been Howard’s forte, nor Aldridge’s. Roy had a bad night. But he’s had some really good ones too. Our offense wasn’t that bad last night. It was our defense that killed us. Layup after layup. And this is no one’s fault but injuries. Three centers injured? You can’t realistically plan for that.
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sounds like an excuse to me
Portland’s starting five was comparable, if not better than, Denver’s on paper
i imagine we’ll also hear “the air is thin in Denver” “Denver is really good” "the Blazers were rusty after their layoff (a varation on the ever-popular “they were tired”)" and blah blah blah as other excuses as to why the Blazers couldn’t show up in a very big game.
by Theghostofsomeonefamous on Mar 8, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
Oh and our bench is MUCH better than Denver's
by Theghostofsomeonefamous on Mar 8, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
is it?
Rudy vs JR Smith
Bayless vs Lawson
Cunningham vs Birdman
When healthy Denver just runs those 8 guys usually, we maybe have a deeper bench in that we also play Juwan (when Camby starts) and Martel at times, but better I’m not entirely sold on that
Really?
Melo is absolutely a beast right now. Better than Roy.
Billups has a much greater effect on the game than Aldridge
We’ve got Nick! But they have Nene.
We’ve got Miller! There’s an advantage. But it doesn’t make up for the points we’re already down.
And even with Martin out, Petro is still a better big than Howard.
I can’t see how anyone right now could reasonably argue that Portland is better than Denver on paper, much less as it was shown on the court last night.
Even when both teams are healthy, Denver’s style is one that Portland isn’t built to deal with. And that’s a problem that needs addressed sooner or later.
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Plus Melo seems to have undergone a Barry Bonds like body transformation
The talent was always there but now the strength seems… unusually overpowering.
by Jacksonville on Mar 8, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
His body is completely different than previous seasons
Alex Rodriuez isn’t huge either. I actually just assume most professional athletes are on something. It just seems Melo’s something has been extremely helpful this year.
absoluly not having a center hurt us in this game.
but we were talking about Roy (follow the thread). Roy sucked this game – and hasn’t looked that good since he has been back- and that had nothing to do with not having a center
I thought he was looking real good there for a while.
Denver played good defense on him. How many times did he try to make the officials bail him out last night, but Denver stood their ground? Roy is usually money at drawing fouls. And last night they frustrated him. I give Denver credit rather than blaming Roy.
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They beat us
That’s all I got from the game. They were the better team last night
I don't know...
I think Denver’s game plan was excellent. Besides, I really didn’t expect Portland to win in Denver lastnight anyway. Portland just isn’t as good as Denver…especially when the Nugs are at home.
It also seems to me that it has always taken Brandon a little time to get back into any kind of rhythm after a signigicant time away from the court in a game.
At the beginning of the season Brandon just didn’t “seem right” either. But, he found his rhythm and again was an all-star.
Long story short…I ain’t trippin’
R.I.P. Mark Linkous
I agree about their gameplan
Karl is not a terrific defensive coach, but he does a good job throwing out so many different gimmicky looks, and that can be just enough to slow you down so their offense can overwhelm you.
Combine their swarming D with Roy not quite being on top of his finishing, and the tremendous pressure their offense was putting on us to score—there were a lot of factors pointing to kind of a rough night.
I guess I agree.
The ESPN commentators mentioned he looked “not quite a half step slow” or something like that.
by Nick Van Excellent on Mar 8, 2010 9:15 AM PST reply actions
He always looks a half step slow
til he beats you…..if he makes even a few of those bunnys plus gets a couple of calls, we would talking about a typical Brandon game and wondering how the hell he ended up at 22/5/5
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by 92wastheyear on Mar 8, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
He looks a half step slow even for Roy.
He just doesn’t look healthy to me, especially on defense. He’s only pretending to guard his man half the time, he’s not closing out on shooters, and he didn’t even attempt to get a hand in Melo’s face some of the time.
He doesn’t look like Roy.
by Nick Van Excellent on Mar 8, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Anyoen who thinks Roy looks fine
is in denial. That being said, so long as he doesn’t make it worse by playing we really need him out there to make a playoff push.
I think he looks about 90%
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by 92wastheyear on Mar 8, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
I got to agree
he’s not 100%. Even when he drives the basket, fouled or not, he has been missing near the rim lately. He definitely looked like a liability last night.
To summarize: Wade too quick, Kobe too skilled, LeBron too physical - Batum
IMO
he is still not quite back to his old pace… but also it seemed to me he couldn’t buy a call last night. Plus the Nuggets had a heck of a game plan. We need a physical post presence badly. We struggle verse Denver and Utah, two teams that can play physical.
no explosion last night
I saw the explosion in the 2nd half of the Memphis game and the 2nd half of the Indiana game, but I havent seen it for a whole game.
He just isnt getting anywhere with his first step, and to make matters worse, when he gets double teamed off the screen from LMA, LMA ends up popping out instead of rolling to the hoop and the offense bogs down.
Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson
Roy loaned his explosion to Miller.
That dunk was SWEET! Who saw that coming? Would have been better if we had got the W though.
Batumshakalaka!
I think Roy is fine
Before that game, his last 7 he has avg 21+pts, 5+asts, and 4.5+rebs per game. Only his fg% is down from his seasonal avg.
The biggest problem for the Blazers right now is LMA continuing to show he has nothing more to show. The team gave him a big contract this past summer because they believe in him, they believed that he would live up to his potential and continue to improve his game. That belief was misplaced apparently, because LMA has at best stayed at the same level he reached last year, although some will argue he has been worse. If Oden is unable to stay healthy, and become the true #2 option this team desperately needs, then KP needs to make a major deal, and make it in the next 2 years, before Roy is used up and on the downside of his career. 27 years old is historically the peak of most NBA guards, (at least that is what ESPN’s crew said last night, and it seems reasonable) Roy is not far away from that now, this team needs to think of now, not the future.
LMA can be a #3 scorer, but as a #2 he has failed miserably.
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You don't like watching him shoot his fadeaway jump shot?
Every single time he shoots the ball…
There are many things I don't like about LMA while watching him
- Watching him dribble back toward the 3 point line, every single time he is double teamed.
This is the most annoying thing about his game to me, even more so than his fadeaway 18 footers.
- Listening to Mike and Mike applaud his “good hands” on defense. Why they should be chastizing him for not moving his feet. I can remember 3 different times last night where he didn’t move his feet on defense, instead opting to slap at the ball. It is lazy, and it is something that should get him pulled every time he does it, not something to praise, regarless of the outcome.
- one more for good measure, I am tired of his apparent lack of urgency and aggressivness at both ends. he plays like he got his contract, which is about the worst way any NBA player can play. He doesn’t seem to care about winning or losing the game. This is just from his body language during the games, not like I have inside info or something. But I do know that amoung my group of friends who enjoy Blazers games I am not the only one who has noticed it. He doesn’t like to mix it up inside, he doesn’t like to rebound like a man, and he doesn’t seem to understand what it takes to be a contender in the NBA.
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Im not going to harp on LMA too much
The guy can definitely light it up on good nights.
My one gripe about LMA & the Coaches is this: Why do we never roll to the hoop on pick and rolls? I am completey baffled by this. IT NEVER HAPPENS! It is ALWAYS a pick and pop which has to be one of the easiest game plans to defend against. With NO threat of the roll, they just have to double Brandon off the screen and then contest LMA’s jumper.
thats all I got. bad game last night for Roy. pretty passive from LMA
Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson
Why do we never roll to the hoop on pick and rolls?
I think this is because LMA isn’t particularly effective rolling to the hoop. If the opposing center steps out to help, he is not deft enough driving with the ball to finish over or around the help defender, or a good enough passer on the move to find the open man.
agreed
rolling is great for bruising players or players with some hops that can finish over/around a defender that is rotating over.
popping- for the person with a good outside shot.
I think they use LA correctly here. If LA rolled to the hoop, I think the results would be down from what they get out of the pick and pop. LA is a good spot up shooter.
The only thing that would be nice to see is LA rolling once in a great while just to throw a wrinkle at the D. Sometimes, when there is a switch and the big man ends up on BRoy and the guard ends up on LA, there seems to be a little confusion…like, now what. Wish they would then roll LA down for a high pass or establish him on the blocks vs. a now smaller guard.
agree
I think LMA wouldn’t be THAT effective rolling to the hoop right now. But at some point, HE HAS TO LEARN HOW, and they should have at least coached him up a little bit on this part of his game. Amare & Nash run it all game long and it doesnt really look like Amare has to do much. Much of that is probably the brilliant passing of Nash, but i think Lamarcus is athletic enough to catch and finish at the rim if he gets a pass on the move.
You cant just pick and pop EVERY TIME. I counted 3 times last night where after the screen was set for Roy, LMA had a completely CLEAR LANE and he just stood at the top of the key and waited. He could at least move closer to the free throw line…….baby steps, baby steps
Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson
I remember LMA finishing strong once, I forget against who
but he threw it down against a big/strong center (like Nene) earlier this year and wound up on his backside. But the ball went in and he got the “and 1”
So it can be done, it just isn’t done nearly enough
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but I disagree that it is for bruising players only
lots of skinny PF’s roll to the rim. its about getting the reps and getting comfortable doing it.
Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson
Another thought
When you see Nash running the pick & roll, the pick seems a little closer to the hoop, just at or above the foul line. Nash goes hard and gets the corner, thus establishing a passing lane to the roller.
It seems our picks are set a few feet higher and our ballhandler is not turning the corner (minus Bayless who does explode around the pick). If the ballhandler doesn’t get the corner and turn to the hoop, passing lane not as good. It is almost as if when BRoy/Miller run the pick, it is intentionally done to draw the players away LMA who was left up top of the key.
I agree that LA needs to put the roll into his repetoire, but I also wonder if the ballhandler needs to use the pick better and go harder around the pick to really force the big man to jump further out, and thus create a lane for a bounce pass for a rolling LA.
BRoy or Miller going around a pick does not bring visions of a sudden, quick burst.
You almost wonder if 1) ballhandler not using pick correctly or 2) more often than not, it is set up for the ballhandler to draw away both defenders from LA for the spot up 15-18 footer
create a lane for a bounce pass for a rolling LA
I probably shouldn’t bring this up because no one wants to hear it, but…Blake used to do this and he hit Joel and Oden with bounce passes for easy dunks, I remember a sequence in the playoffs last year where this play actually worked several times in one quarter
but Steve’s gone so there’s no use reminiscing…I just wonder why Andre can make so many fine lob passes to his former teams but they don’t seem to be available that often with the Blazers? Back picks, hard cuts, are these concepts too difficult for Portland to grasp or execute?
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I just think that there is nobody rolling to pass to
LMA and Juwan sure as heck dont do it
Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson
It's a coaching thing
For whatever reason, they don’t believe in the concept. It’s the only thing it can be, seeing as Nate calls the plays. I know the players make the read, but when they NEVER roll, that’s no longer a read.
And it’s obvious when it’s going to be a pick ‘n’ pop because the guard doesn’t even make an effort to turn the corner. Like someone else mentioned, they don’t explode around the pick, so they don’t put any pressure on the defense to switch or make it tough to show and recover. They simply have to recover enough to contest the J.
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Why do we never roll to the hoop on pick and rolls? I am completey baffled by this. IT NEVER HAPPENS!
I’ve seem LMA slip the pick twice this year, the first time with Andre, the second time with Roy. (The second time the quick pass surprised LMA and he bobbled the ball.) I haven’t watched every minute of every game, but these “variations” are so rare I usually mention them when they happen (kind of like when Redd Foxx was feigning a heart attack…)
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I agree so much.
I asked Dave about LMA rolling during a mailbag, and he said he suspects that LMA just doesn’t have the inherent toughness to play inside, and never will.
:(
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
actually most of the time he slaps the ball out of his guys hand
its not cuz he got beat on a drive, its him reaching around for a steal, while still maintaining good defensive position in between his man and the hoop. thats why they praise it, cuz he uses quick hands to get steals while maintaining good position, rather than using hands as his only defense as you mistakingly suggest.
I disagree
he is reaching pure and simple, it is a lazy man’s defense. If he moved his feet, he would be in the correct position to challenge the shot without fouling. The result of the play doesn’t matter, it is a bad play, and it is doublely, (is that even a word?) to reinforce the bad habit by praising him for it.
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Karl Malone must've been lazy on defense too
because he’d get most of his blocks “below the shoulders” as well
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I don't care who does it
Slapping at the ball instead of moving your feet is lazy defense. LMA has the potential to be a great defender, but small habits like this one will keep him from being even a good defender. He also lacks situational awarness on defense, I can’t count the number of times this season he has switched on a pick and roll, and got matched up with a guard out by the 3 point line with the clock winding down, only to give up too much space and have the guard nail a 3 on him. I know he is worried about getting beat to the bucket, (a sign he doesn’t trust his teammates to cover for him, and at this point who would) but with 2 or 3 seconds on the clock, crowd the player and make him make a move which he doesn’t have time to make!
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So you would rather have a challenged shot than a steal?
I’ll take the steal because even challenged shots go in sometimes. LMA’s positional defense is pretty good, IMO. His lateral quickness could be better but is really only tested on the perimeter. I think his lack of bulk is why guys get around him. Body on body is not his forte and he loses leverage when guys can pivot off of him. Just my 2 cents…
We'll miss you #2 & #25!
the problem i see is that
70% of the time it is a foul, how many steals does he avg per game? Try .85, not even one per game, and yet he does this at least 4 or 5 times a game. Sometimes he is lucky and the ball goes out of bounds, and most officials just call it out off of him, instead of a foul like it should be, other times he is not so lucky.
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it's tough to keep driving
when the refs won’t give you a single call. BS the whole way through, punctuated by some timely three-point shooting by the nugs
We shot a ton of free throws
can’t blame the refs for the loss at all. Stop looking for a scapegoat. The better team won.
yeah roy doesnt exactly look like a team usa guy right now
his execution is slow and sloppy. kobe and wade it seems take defense personally and are star players defensively, roy doesnt seem to care…he and la just dont quite have the killer instinct. mabey nate needs to take controll of the radio in the locker room and play nothing but rocky songs from here to the end of the season.
guess what buddy
hes battling through a tough injury to lead his team to the playoffs, while also scoring 20-25 on most nights on a still bad hamstring. hes a top tier player in this league, playing while injured so this obviously isnt his best level of play (which any true blazer fan would know. and if you question roy’s killer instinct to win, i question youre credibility and knowledge of the Blazers.
I'm a Roy fan
but to be fair. He has NEVER been even a good defender and often doesn’t look like he is trying to be one. As much as I hate Kobe you can see that killer instinct in him. I’m not saying Roy doesn’t have it also but to say
if you question roy’s killer instinct to win, i question youre credibility and knowledge of the Blazers.
is quite extreme. Roy is the best player we have don’t mistake that with him being the player that wants it the most.
i agree, but...
the problem is not that roy lacks the killer instinct. the problem is that he lets his offense dictate his defense. he only makes a good effort on defense when his shot is on and his rhythm is set. if he’s having an off night due to missing shots or not getting calls, he tends to get lazy and complain a lot. whereas the true greats in the league right now (i.e. kobe and lebron) bring it on defense every night and let their effort and energy boost their offensive game.
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by rudy fernandez forever on Mar 8, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
exactly.
and we could really use his good D on some of those bad shooting nights
well thats why we have rudy!
no…wait…that’s not right…
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by rudy fernandez forever on Mar 8, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
I think what's happening here is that we're coming to the realization
that even though LMA and Roy were the best players in the 2006 draft class, they’re not going to be dominant-enough at both ends of the court to bring a championship to Portland
Which is fine, as long as they realize that, and let other Blazers like Oden, Batum and Bayless become more-important options on offense, going forward next fall
Truth is, Greg, Nic and Jerryd are going to have to “carry” Brandon and LMA at the defensive end. They’re also going to have to “kick their backsides” when they don’t give a full effort. #7 and #12 have brought the team so far, but to get them over the hump they’re going to need #52, #88 and the desire and ’tude of #4 to drive them to greatness
Will this all work out? I wasn’t pleased when I read about Roy and LMA having a chat with Nate on the plane during preseason, talking about how they should still be “option 1” and “option 2” on offense. For Portland to take the next step (and to quote Bob Dylan) “there’s gonna need to be some changes made” Not to the roster, but to the mindset of who’s driving the bus
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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree, step slow
Where I notice it is in the transition game. If you are watching a play where everyone is out running and watch Roy… he either
1) does not care about keeping up
2) or just cannot
He does not seem like the can get into full sprint mode or has a burst.
I know everyone was excited about the 4-1 roadtrip, but when I was watching him during those games, while he was putting up “numbers” he did not seem to affect the game, they were kind of a quiet 20 points (think ZBO type of game).
Defense, while never a strong suit, has been just bad. I mean the 1 time he guarded Carmello, they tossed the ball to Carmello on the wing, BRoy took a feable swipe at the pass (putting him out of position) Carmello pivoted away, rose up and nailed the jumper (and BRoy never even bothered to jump to put up at least a 1/2 arse attempt at a block).
His drives do not seem to be there either. Before (and I guess I am referencing last year), he got a decent amount of points on the drive. This year, it is more of a quick drive and then up with a jumper.
He is always going to get his “points” as he is the featured guy in our attack. Heck, he couldn’t of look any crappier last night and he had 12. I know this is going to sound odd, but outside of 1 stretch he had this year where he was particularily effective, this year Brandon scoring 20 does not seem like it “impacts” the game as much as last year when Brandon scored 20.
Burst, sprint… or whatever are either not there (injury) or teams doing a better job on D this year.
Brandon always has a quiet 20-25 pts
because hes not flashy like wade, kobe, lebron, etc. but he still clearly affects the game.
I agree
I just think his impact has been a touch less this year than last. It seems that for whatever reason he is not penetrating as much, therefore not putting as much pressure on the D and making it easier for the other Blazers.
Not a knock, just seems like injury is affecting him and limiting him. Obviously, he is the Blazers catalyst on the offensive end more often than not.
The one ? I have though is a lot of people knock LA for being soft, but he puts up a quiet 16/17 a game. LA takes a lot of heat for this while BRoy seems to get a pass. Granted BRoy does produce better than LA in the 4th, but both are sub-par defenders, & LA is better in the transition game.
(not saying LA isn’t soft, just always wondered how BRoy gets overlooked as it can be argued that BRoy should have more of an impact overall and in the 4th than LA as BRoy has the ball in his hands weigh more than LA. LA needs someone to get him the ball in the post for him to do his thing. BRoy has the ball to begin with)
we didnt do too badly last night
considering we went up against
1. the nuggets best game in the 1st half
2. the refs best job of fulfilling david sterns desires
3. we played next to no defense….scratch that, we played ABSOLUTELY NO defense (cough wheres Pendergraph, nate? cough)
4. our 2 best players did absolutely nothing
about the only thing that went right last nite was andres vinsanity-esque (maybe a bit of a stretch) dunk. After that play, my dad yelled so loud he made my stepmom jump nearly a foot off the couch.
my wife heard me from 2 rooms away
Miller’s dunk was kind of like a walk off HR in baseball or a hail mary that connects in football…you know it’s
possiblebut it was so unexpected
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Roy at 90% plus a physical Denver defense equals a poor shooting night
What the Blazers need to do when they go against a physical team is force the refs to make calls early in the game. Get to the rim, get fouls called against them for being too physical and force the refs to call the game tighter. Now, some nights it won’t matter and the refs will let it go, but other nights we’ll get those calls and it’ll force physical teams to tone it down. The Blazers can’t handle really physical teams especially when the refs are encouraging it.
"In Batum's case he must realize he is very likely the first Blazer to successfully fight over a pick all season..."
-Ben
Personally,
Not having Outlaw with the team rooting them on, not to mention his special contributions, is a void.
Add to that no Przy and Blake, we got heart surgery after effects.
The whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
Not sayin’ it’s fatal, not sayin’ that’s the only problem, just sayin’.
"You be realistic," Oden said. "I’m going to stay happy. All right?"
Oh, and Oden would be real nice to have back too.
"You be realistic," Oden said. "I’m going to stay happy. All right?"
6-4 since trade = .600
31-24 before trade = .564
Cool if you like those players and miss them, but to say they are having problems winning games because of the trade makes no sense.
travis didn't play this year
so lumping him in the .564 isn’t valid.
The original poster condends that Outlaw rooting the team on was contributing to wins.
A argued against his logic.
by Free Bayless on Mar 10, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
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