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Game 65 Recap: Blazers 106, Nuggets 118

 Long Story Short:  The Blazers try to beat the Nuggets with offense, which is a little like trying to beat the ocean with a garden sprinkler.  Despite some heroic production from the supporting cast Portland's two main stars come up woefully short and Denver waltzes to a pretty victory.

The Game

The starting lineups revealed that both Marcus Camby and Kenyon Martin would sit out this game.  That left Denver down an interior scorer and rebounder.  It left Portland down an interior defender and rebounder.  Unfortunately Denver had other interior scorers while the Blazers couldn't muster a suitable substitute for Camby's one-man lane patrol.  It was advantage: Denver out of the gate in a game where the Nuggets didn't need more advantages.

Both teams started the game shooting and making mid-range-plus jumpers.  The score was close early but another difference between the two squads became readily apparent after the first few minutes.  Denver hitting jumpers put enormous pressure on Portland's defense as the Blazers weren't free to clog the lane and give Juwan Howard defensive assistance.  As a result the Nuggets followed up their early perimeter success with more rim shots than Henny Youngman's drummer.  Portland hitting early jumpers led to...more jumpers.  The Blazers tried to break the trend by pushing the ball upcourt after every Denver make.  Unfortunately the Nuggets made so many shots that the Blazers got tired from all the running.  Portland also turned the ball over late in the quarter.  The running, jump-shooting experiment netted them 21 points to Denver's 34 in the period.  Back to the drawing board.

Unfortunately the drawing board didn't hold any more effective blueprints in the second stanza.  Portland alternated between moving the ball and scoring on the "J" or going one-on-one and missing the "J".  The second unit, behind Bayless and Fernandez, provided more energy than the starters and actually ended up scoring easier.  However the defense didn't get any better so the Blazers ended up behind no matter how much they scored.  Pretty much all you need to know about how this game was going was answered by the 6:00 mark in the second period.  If recent history was any guide the Blazers needed to hold the Nuggets well below 100 to have a chance at winning.  Any accomplished math major will tell you that means fewer than 50 points in each half.  The Nuggets had 50 points by the 6:00 mark.  At that point you knew Seabiscuit wasn't making the comeback.

Though the stunning come-from-behind victory wasn't in the cards at least the horse managed to keep itself from getting shot.  The defense never got much better outside of a few opportunistic moments taking advantage of Denver turnovers.  But the offense got a major spark in the second half from Jerryd Bayless who figured, rightly, that the way to solve the Denver puzzle was to drive and foul out everyone in the building.  It worked well as Bayless marched to the line again and again.  His penetration opened up some shots for the Blazer wings and Portland climbed back within single digits for a while.  Andre Miller also riffed on that theme.  Besides that he had the moment of the night when he found himself behind all the Denver defenders on a turnover breakout.  Receiving the ball from Martell Webster he collected himself on the dribble, elevated, and threw down a pretty decent impression of a leaning tomahawk jam.  No lie.  ESPN's cameras caught the Blazer bench afterwards.  To a man they were standing.  There was little cheering.  Instead every one of them was looking at the big-screen replay trying to confirm what they thought they just saw.  They couldn't have looked any more shocked if a dinosaur had just landed in a UFO in the middle of the court and delivered them bowls of pistachio-flavored ice cream and a map to Jimmy Hoffa's body wrapped in Pricilla Presley's panties.  (The map, that is, not Hoffa.)  It was kind of like seeing your grandpa get up on stage and do a decent cabbage patch followed by the running man.  It may not be the best dancing in the world, but dang!  You didn't know the guy could do that!  It made the whole game worth it.  Heck, it made the whole acquisition of Andre Miller worth it just for the jaw-drop factor alone.  Thanks, ‘Dre!  Major, mad props.

Despite Miller, Bayless, and Fernandez hammering away the Blazers were hamstrung by the lack of production from LaMarcus Aldridge and Brandon Roy.  To be fair, the Nuggets planned it that way.  Until the final few minutes of the game Roy never got a decent look without being hounded.  If Roy wasn't in there then LaMarcus got the same treatment.  They didn't care if Portland's main guys were just shooting jumpers.  By gum, they were going to harass and double-team those shots.  Aldridge ended up with 16 but they came on 6-14 shooting.  Roy made a couple of baskets quite late to turn an atrocious offensive evening into a really poor one, finishing 3-14 for 12 points.  The Blazers were used to getting 28 points or more from Roy alone against the Nuggets.  With 28 combined from Roy and Aldridge it almost didn't matter who else scored.  Denver dared anyone else to beat them.  It didn't happen.

The Nuggets shot almost 59% from the floor and 41% from three-point range.  The Blazers did attempt 9 more shots than Denver but it doesn't matter when they're up 16% in field goal percentage.  The Blazers actually equaled Denver's three-point production on fewer shots, ending up at 56.3%.  To tie the game that way, though, Portland would have needed to shoot more than 81% from distance.  That's hard to do.  Portland got obliterated in the paint, Denver had 31 assists on 43 made shots, the Nuggets scored 23 fast break points...the offensive barrier was way too high to overcome, even on a night when Portland managed 106.

Individual Observations

We already mentioned Aldridge and Roy in terms of shooting and production.  LaMarcus had 7 rebounds while Brandon chipped in 5 rebounds and 5 assists.  They'll both want to forget this night.

Jerryd Bayless scored 24 points on 10 shots, largely owing to his 9-11 free throw clip.  He dished out 5 assists as well.  Huge night for him.  He was just what the offense needed.

Andre Miller scored 19 on 7-15 shooting but only had 2 assists.  He was doing the right thing though.  And that dunk should have counted for 20.

Juwan Howard was productive offensively with 8 points on 4-6 shooting plus 4 assists.  He also managed 7 rebounds and 2 steals in 29 minutes.  He wasn't going to keep up with those athletic Denver bigs for extended minutes though.  He did well.  We just didn't have enough people behind and around him.

Rudy Fernandez shot and hit 4 threes tonight, making Denver pay for overplaying the marquee guys.  It'd be nice to see that confidence in the long ball last for a couple weeks at least.  5-9 for 14 points overall.

Nicolas Batum did a little damage early by faking the long shot, putting the ball on the floor when the defender ran at him, and pulling up for the 12-15 footer.  I love that move for him.  Unfortunately nothing else was working offensively and he went 2-7 for 4 points overall.  He also picked up 4 fouls in 14 minutes so you know he wasn't feeling it defensively.

It would have been nice to see Martell Webster step up in the offensive gap that Nic left but that wasn't to be either as Webster went 1-6 for 4 points in 17 minutes.  He did have 5 rebounds and 2 assists in those minutes though.

I loves me some Dante Cunningham on defense.  He was one of the only guys who looked like he had the combination of heart and athleticism to take on the heavy-gunning Nuggets.  He even D'ed up Carmelo pretty well in the limited chances he got, though ‘Melo hit over him anyway.  Dante drew 4 foul shots and ended up with 5 points and 3 rebounds in 12 minutes.  Why was his time so short when he looked like one of our few answers to defensive prayers?  4 fouls, just like Nic.

Jeff Pendergraph also joined in with 2 fouls and a rebound in 4 minutes.

This isn't a game to worry about long-term.  Portland got whacked by a better team in their own place.  There's nothing earth-shattering about that.  The road games on which the season will hang come in places like Sacramento and Oakland.  The important thing is to not let those games look like this one even if the enemy's offensive potential is high.  The Blazers should be able to manage that, especially since those teams won't squelch our two stars to the same extent.

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and the single most epic lay up ever


although roy’s fiance disagrees

the few, the proud, the blazers

by HD on Mar 8, 2010 12:34 AM PST up reply actions  

can you get Sgt Pepper in there, somehow?

I’ve got the original pdf of Przy’s reaction at fall camp saved as wallpaper

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 12:38 AM PST up reply actions  

sgt pepper?

the few, the proud, the blazers

by HD on Mar 8, 2010 12:40 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

needs some statue of liberty spikes

by contemnor on Mar 8, 2010 2:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Andre must have gotten tired of being called Mr. Half Inch

The weird thing is in the pre-game thread I wondered if he was capable of dunking. Now I know.

"Maybe we can't stroll to the music of the lute. We must march to the sound of drums." -Captain Kirk

by terryisntbald on Mar 8, 2010 1:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I meant Mr Two Inches

I wish I had a dollar for every time I wished I could delete or edit a comment right after I hit post.

"Maybe we can't stroll to the music of the lute. We must march to the sound of drums." -Captain Kirk

by terryisntbald on Mar 8, 2010 1:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Lamarcus Aldridge...

once again has okay numbers without making any kind of significant impact on the game. Not one of Roy’s better games to say the least.

Not an unexpected loss but it is disheartening. Especially with news of the Pryzbilla injury. What a strange trip this season has been.

by FeelTheLove on Mar 7, 2010 11:44 PM PST reply actions  

Aldridge's defense was terrible

If his offense isn’t clicking, at least he could protect the rim. But I didn’t see any of that. I’ve really loved his offensive and rebounding energy in the last month but tonight was pretty poor.

" It was as if the Suns hatched a fiendish plot to ruin John Wayne's movie career by casting him as a cowboy." - Dave 2/10/2010

by jamon51 on Mar 8, 2010 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Love LA, but...

He’s soft. Yes, he hates the label, but it’s true.

He also doesn’t have the handles that Bosh or some other 6-11 guys have. He’s got a great jumper, as we all know, but you watch how Bosh or Amare or (honestly) Andray Blatche put it on the floor in traffic. If LA could do that… But he can’t.

And his defensive rebounding continues to be a problem.

Rant rant, he’s got a ton of talent, but a ton of room to grow yet.

by travis13 on Mar 8, 2010 12:26 AM PST up reply actions  

andre got snubbed from the dunk contest

Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
1. n. Something that inspires awe
2. n. Nicolas Batum

by thomasikehara on Mar 7, 2010 11:44 PM PST reply actions  

lol

3/7/10 - Andre Miller Tomahawk jams on the Denver Nuggets.

by Eat Politicians on Mar 8, 2010 2:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Nicolas Batum … picked up 4 fouls in 14 minutes so you know he wasn’t feeling it defensively.

Oh he was “feeling it” alright, he was feeling Melo’s shoulder in his chest as he was being knocked backwards onto his keister. S’good to be a superstar and get the benefit of the doubt when you put your head down and blitzkreig right through the Marginot line

Webster showed incredibly poor BBIQ by showing the ball to Anderson on that drive. If you don’t have anything more than that to offer Martell, go grab some pine. The block and subsequent run-out fired up the Denver crowd and just made an already- bad situation intolderable

But the first quarter was the ballgame. Portland played ‘em even, the rest of the way. You’ve got to give the Blazers credit for hanging in there, even though Roy had a brutal night and couldn’t finish anything around the rim, until it was too late. Bayless and Rudy picked up the slack, which is what we’ve been calling for them to do, so that was a positive to take away from this mile-high affair. But when JR Smight’s 3 pointers were rattling around and down during the first quarter, somehow you knew it wasn’t going to be Portland’s night

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by two4larue on Mar 7, 2010 11:54 PM PST reply actions  

I agree about Batum

…but it’s not fair to dump on Webster. Yes, he “showed” the ball to Anderson—about a foot above the rim! It was a great dunk attempt but an even more incredible block. The replay showed that.

What we need is more aggressiveness and explosiveness like that from Webster and it wasn’t his fault nobody got back to prevent the break. Don’t get down on him because Birdman stole his highlight. It happens.

" It was as if the Suns hatched a fiendish plot to ruin John Wayne's movie career by casting him as a cowboy." - Dave 2/10/2010

by jamon51 on Mar 8, 2010 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

it's a stupid play

you don’t challenge a shot blocker out of some macho desire to show him up…that never ends well. Smart players like K*be show the ball, take it away, then use their body to draw the foul and flip the ball up at the rim. If Martell had done that, perhaps Birdman fouls out early and doesn’t have nearly the same impact on the game

I’m sorry, but I don’t see Webster learning the nuances of the game. He’s a one-trick pony who either has to shoot an open 3-pointer or have an uncontested pathway to drive all the way to the rim. Take #23 out of his “comfort zone” and it’s a misadventure just waiting to happen

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 12:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Martell's "blocked" dunk

That’s a foul, folks. A touch of ball, a lot of arm, and some body. Hate to sound like a homer—that should be a foul in any game.

by travis13 on Mar 8, 2010 12:23 AM PST up reply actions  

if the shot blocker touches ball first, that's all that matters

especially for a guy like Birdman who has a rep as a shot-blocker. At home? There’s no way the refs give Martell that call. You’ve got to use more savvy and not always rely on pure athleticism—that’s the kind of thinking that got Clyde and Jerome beat in the finals back in ’90-92

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 12:30 AM PST up reply actions  

well

it’s not true that if the blocker gets the ball first, that’s all that matters. sometimes the ref treats it that way, but i don’t think it’s correct. i maintain it was a foul, but yeah, not a shock that it wasn’t called on the birdman in denver. not the biggest missed call, either, in my opinion.

but martell going to the hole? yes, please. i like his chances in that situation anytime. it’s what he forgets to do at times, and anderson or nene or dwight howard, you go at those guys time and time again.

by travis13 on Mar 8, 2010 12:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know.

He went straight up, so I would argue that Webster initiated most of the contact. It was a non-call at best.

by Nick Van Excellent on Mar 8, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I disagree

I think Webster was trying to be aggressive and take it at Birdman in hopes of getting fouled and/or slamming home a thunderous dunk, not trying to show him up. Webster doesn’t have the touch around the rim to do the Kobe show and hide move, and he was right to go right into Birdman. Most of the time he’ll get fouled (like Travis13 said, he basically was).

Your second paragraph I do agree with, though. Even though Webster is a favorite of mine, I’m under no illusions about the holes in his game. To me, he’ll make a good role player off the bench who won’t upset much offensively and give you average to above average defense, a bit of shooting, and some athleticism off the bench. We can’t expect anything more than that anymore.

" It was as if the Suns hatched a fiendish plot to ruin John Wayne's movie career by casting him as a cowboy." - Dave 2/10/2010

by jamon51 on Mar 8, 2010 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

there is a futility deduction

that figures into whether the refs blow the whistle or not. Subtle thing, but poorly understood at times by fans on here. You can’t just launch your body at a big man and expect to get the call every time. You’ve got to have enough game to create some opportunity to score first.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Mar 8, 2010 1:10 AM PST up reply actions  

futility deduction? I like that

I was already expecting the turnover as Marty went up for that dunk attempt. Like Fonzie told Richie in Happy Days “you’ve got to have the reputation of having actually hit someone” to be taken seriously by a bully

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

analogous

to the rule in the NFL that a ball must be catchable for pass interference to be called.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Mar 8, 2010 1:12 AM PST up reply actions  

ok so Batum got knocked down once, what about the other 28 points?

And I thought Batum was God, judging from the chatter a couple weeks ago. What’s going on here????!!

by Theghostofsomeonefamous on Mar 8, 2010 7:06 AM PST up reply actions  

twice

even Hubie thought Nic was in the correct position to draw the charge

Batum struggles against more-physical forwards (Artest, Melo, Maggette) but he has no chance if the refs let them bowl him over. Similar to Sabas vs Shaq, back in the day

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Those were two terrible calls against Batum

If the refs are going to let Melo get away with that kind of stuff on a given night, you might as well just pack your bags and go home. I don’t blame the refs for the loss, but it was a pretty poorly officiated game.

RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP

by Rudiculous on Mar 8, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

the last 2 minutes of the 3rd quarter

seemed like it took an hour to play, in real time. Just when you thought Denver had missed a shot and Portland had actually grabbed the rebound TWEET! Loose ball foul, send Nene (etc) to the line

It’s at times like that I start to wonder if it’s possible to get a “stop” against a team in their home building

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I think...

Part of it was being amped to get the nuggets back for trading him 3 years ago…but maybe he is over it?

If the moon were made of spare ribs would you eat it?

by DjSarcazm on Mar 8, 2010 12:15 AM PST reply actions  

don't think so

’Dre mentioned at the beginning of the season his 1st goal was to finish ahead of Denver in the NW division

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 12:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Billups and Melo are simply better than Miller and Roy

that’s the real difference between the 2 teams, not Karl and McMillian (and it makes a big difference when Denver has Nene and Anderson and Portland doesn’t have Oden or Przy…)

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 12:33 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, you're right

…but ESPN’s Wired segments do nothing to inspire confidence in Nate.

Nate: “We have to execute. Defense. Execute.”

Karl: “Let’s take advantage of our quickness, get a few turnovers and beat them down the floor. We have four smalls out there and should be able to beat them with our quickness. In the next 6 possessions, I want to see a few stops and get out and run.”

(very rough paraphrase, but you get the point)

" It was as if the Suns hatched a fiendish plot to ruin John Wayne's movie career by casting him as a cowboy." - Dave 2/10/2010

by jamon51 on Mar 8, 2010 12:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Different styles

Coach Pop just growls at his team when he’s pissed but he’s won four titles so whatever.

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by skywaker9 on Mar 8, 2010 12:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I just don’t want my coach to sound as clueless as Mo Cheeks.

" It was as if the Suns hatched a fiendish plot to ruin John Wayne's movie career by casting him as a cowboy." - Dave 2/10/2010

by jamon51 on Mar 8, 2010 12:48 AM PST up reply actions  

when he's mad, Greg walks across the court and engages the refs during timeouts

and (at least against Portland) the calls mysteriously start going the Spur’s way, PDQ

I would love to have Pop as a Blazer head coach = instant league-wide credibility

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the reason Karl had 4 smalls

was to counter Nate’s lineup of Miller, Bayless, Rudy and Roy…Portland was trying to come back and substituted size for scoring. And it “bit” them on that missed rebound where Miller and Rudy were holding back Nene and the ball hit the floor and was scooped up by Affalo

I don’t think Nate is the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to Xs and Os, but the Wall Street Journal did a piece on how Portland had the highest scoring% coming out of timeouts, last year. If you listened to George talk about McMillian as a player earlier on the show, then it’s hard to crack-back on Nate. He’s been getting his players to not give up (unlike some Bedgers I’ve read recently…) all season long, and they fought hard again, tonight. The coach with the most talent usually wins (P-Jack) and before Warkentein pulled off the Iverson for Billups deal, Karl’s future in Denver wasn’t looking very bright. Melo or no Melo

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 12:50 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah

because coaches win games, not players (that’s sarcasm by the way). Looking at our schedule this was easily top 3 least winnable games this half of the season, I don’t know that anyone really expected us to go into Denver and win, let alone without Camby.

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 8, 2010 7:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Tough game

Roy and LA were rotten in this one, with Roy looking as flat as I’ve ever seen him (injuries not withstanding), and LA doing his weekly vanishing act.

So I can’t fault Nate’s rotations, but as noted above, why not more Cunningham in a game like this? Why not more Martell? If Nic is in foul trouble, who do you turn to for defense? It’s those two guys. Brandon’s defense was about as bad as his offense on this night.

by travis13 on Mar 8, 2010 12:22 AM PST reply actions  

That Dre dunk

Turned this game instantly into one of the least painful losses of the year.

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by skywaker9 on Mar 8, 2010 12:36 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

agreed

he got a big “whoa!” out of me, that’s for sure

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 12:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Dave....Just once

I’d like to see you compliment Andre without smarminess or backhandedness. What you got against that guy, anyway?

Lousy night for Portland morally.

Hate to see the boys looking intimidated. Needed Joel out there tonight to show some spine.

And disappointing to see the soft Brandon reappear tonight with his, "I’d rather whine at the refs even though i had no chance at making that basket than hustle back and play defense on Carmelo Anthony.

If Brandon is going to be the leader on this team, he’s got to get tougher, and learn how to bite down on the defensive end. That’s the formula for the contenders, and the breakdowns tonight on d showed a poor effort from both of our shooting guards.

Well, without Camby I guess we can only conclude so much from tonight’s game.

But I hadn’t seen this Portland softness in quite a while. This team apparently still has some leadership issues.

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by Blazin' on Mar 8, 2010 1:04 AM PST reply actions  

mental toughness

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Mar 8, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Mind over hamstring?

Not possible. If he’s hurt, then he’s hurt. You can’t will your explosiveness back.

by Nick Van Excellent on Mar 8, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm being hard on him for one game.

But if a guy is off on the the offensive end, I want to see him at least try on the defensive end. Especially if he is a “leader” in what is an important game during the stretch run.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Mar 8, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Dave is just making sure he pleases all the audience

Think of it as a shout-out of TiH.

(kidding)

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by DonkeyShins on Mar 8, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

fine,

but every time?

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Mar 8, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Bayless
Jerryd Bayless scored 24 points on 10 shots, largely owing to his 9-11 free throw clip.

Take away the free throws, and he still got 15 on 10 shots which is pretty impressive. Perhaps more important than the FTs was 3-3 on 3 pointers. That seems much more worthy of mention than the FTs, given the long term ramifications for this team of Jerryd becoming a real threat from distance.

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Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
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by jscot on Mar 8, 2010 3:07 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

But he missed two shots with his feet on the line.

Lesson: Don’t stand on the line.

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by pualo on Mar 8, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Loose ball fouls

I’m too lazy to dig around for the stats on this (if they even exist) but does any team get called for as many loose ball fouls as we do? Last night was even worse than usual, but in most games we have about 3-5 of them while rebounding, and I hardly ever notice other teams getting called for the same thing. Is it just our undersized guys having to fight so hard for position or what?

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 8, 2010 6:45 AM PST reply actions  

it was frustrating

especially at the end of the 3rd quarter when the Blazers were trying to get the deficit back in single-digits. The Nugs would miss, Portland would secure the ball then “tweet” the LBF call would go against htem and send Denver to the line. I’m not saying there wasn’t any contact, but it makes it difficult-to-impossible to comeback if you can’t get stops

Oden will help (like I said earlier this weekend) Greg was huge during a preseason game against the Nugs, last fall. Portland trailed by 12 in the 4th quarter, both teams were playing “for keeps” and Oden was the impetus behind a 13-2 run that brought the Blazers all the way back for a 2 point W. Nene and the Birdman had no answer for #52

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

sigh..................

well Jeryd Bayless and Andre Miler came to play last night….. but apparently everyone else missed the game. Goodness what a poor effort. I’ve been a huge of LA but I think that ever since he got his contract he thinks he just lay back and show no effort because he’s getting paid huge money. I’m sorry but this team has ZERO chance to make the playoffs if they are going to show the kind of defensive “effort” they showed last night. A lot of it is on the players, but some of it is coaching too. This team is done and they sure played that way last night

by CincyBlazerFan7180 on Mar 8, 2010 6:47 AM PST reply actions  

typical overreaction

before this game did you really think we would go into Denver and win? It’s one game, one loss. Denver is a better team and has been all season. Now if we lose to Sacto or Washington that’s a different story, but I like our chances.

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 8, 2010 7:41 AM PST up reply actions  

you do not fail to notice

that he is lamenting a lack effort, do you? he is not saying you guys should have won. he is saying he expected better effort. about which, after reading this thread, I am not overly suprised

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by Murcy on Mar 8, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

::sigh::

"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview

by BlazersOrBust on Mar 8, 2010 8:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Broken record

http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/21/1321045/2010/2/21/1321045/game-58-recap-blazers-89-jazz-93-ot#31174179

I’m such at a loss right now. WE ARE DONE!! SEASON’S OVER!

Your last comment on Bedge was two weeks ago, proclaiming us “done”. Since then, we went 5-1 until this game.

Maybe you only watch the Blazers once every two weeks or something, so you missed all those road wins.

This team will cruise into the playoffs. True, they lost in Denver like other teams have done 27 times this year. Perhaps you didn’t notice OKC, they are ahead of us in the standings, and they got blown out and didn’t even come back to make it respectable like we did.

Maybe you’re done, but this team isn’t.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 8, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

just caught a typo

in his username….should be CynicBlazerFan7180

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 8, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

synopsys

It’s nothing more complicated than: Denver is a better team than Portland, they played a game on Denver’s home court, Denver delivered the drubbing that everyone expected.

Now, time for some more games against the basket cases of the NBA to cheer us up.

by lsjogren on Mar 8, 2010 7:01 AM PST reply actions  

It’s nothing more complicated than: Denver is a better team than Portland, they played a game on Denver’s home court, Denver delivered the drubbing that everyone expected.

No doubt Denver is a better team than Portland right now. I don’t think too many people are disputing that. The tough pill to swallow, is not that they are better, but that the Blazers (in particular Roy and Aldridge) showed little interest on the defensive end last night. Your offense is not always gonna be there, but defense, or at least defensive effort, should be there every game. It was so frustrating to watch Aldridge give a little swipe from the side as Denver players went to the rim…why doesn’t he move his feet and get in front of those player to challenge them? He just shows no interest in playing interior defense. He’d rather switch out and play guards on the perimeter than defend the basket. He’s almost 7 feet tall! Who is supposed to guard the rim if he doesn’t? And I can remember one time that Roy actually squared up against Melo and stayed in front of him. Otherwise, he was letting Melo drive past him or late getting out to shooters at the 3 point line. Getting beat by Melo or closing out on shooters is not a crime, but at least look like you are trying your best out there. Both of our stars have to step up on the defensive end.

by JasonT on Mar 8, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I do agree with this

I don’t know how many times I’ve seen LA switch/double onto the guard while his man rolls to the hoop. What I don’t know is if that’s by design and our other guard is supposed to pick up the rolling player?

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 8, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

In a nutshell

Yes. If they’re switching on a pick, then the guard needs to cover LA’s man. I’ve seen Juwan and Pendy also left out to dry in this manner. Our guards (other than Bayless) need to learn to switch properly…or better yet, fight through a pick.

"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave

by DonkeyShins on Mar 8, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

There's going to be a lot of excuse-making today...

But this is what happens when a barely above-average team with a very mediocre coach meets a very good team with a very good coach.

Them’s the facts.

by Theghostofsomeonefamous on Mar 8, 2010 7:04 AM PST reply actions  

rec

"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview

by BlazersOrBust on Mar 8, 2010 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

"Them’s the facts."

uh…them’s the opinions

Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’

by 92wastheyear on Mar 8, 2010 8:22 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

rec, but fixed

them’s the disputed opinions.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 8, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Fixed that for you

But this is what happens when a team that has been crippled by injuries with meets a very good team with a very good coach.

Them’s the opinion.

"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave

by DonkeyShins on Mar 8, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

the wide open uncontested 3s were aggravating

as was the willingness by refs to kowtow to carmelo’s leanin with shoulder drives. it used to be if you lowered your shoulder for contact that was pretty much an offensive foul.

by utahcoyote on Mar 8, 2010 7:21 AM PST reply actions  

the strategy was to double Melo, at least some of the time

but when he threw those cross-court passes to Smith (etc) and the 3s kept dropping, there wasn’t much Portland could do but hang on and hope the Nugs went cold

what kiiled the Blazers was Denver’s interior passes for open lay-ins (same thing with Utah, etc) If they can’t find a way to “tighten that up” and also defend the perimeter, it’s going to be a long night and a short playoff series in April

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Excuses are like @-holes.....

everyone has one.
 Perimeter d needs to step it up.
Melo, Chauncey and JR had 73 points last night. Nic can’t guard everyone every night. If it doesn’t change the playoff picture isn’t looking bright. :(

Til the wheels fall off.... Marcus Camby

Go Blazers !!

by FrenchieFan on Mar 8, 2010 7:28 AM PST reply actions  

but, they're not as nice to...

well, you know.

Libertarianism is just Anarchy for rich people

by Murcy on Mar 8, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

first quarter, yeah

but the rest of the game the teams traded baskets. Denver knew what they had to do, they’ve been to the WCF the last 2 years, Portland is still learning as a unit. Billups gives them stability that can’t be overstated. Before Chauncy came to Denver, the Nugs were even more disorganized than the Blazers are now

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

If you let 3 people from the other team get 20+ points....

you aren’t going to win many games. Hello defense?? Where were you??? But if you can’t get the win at least you can get the highlight of the game. Thank you Andre!!

by jenstcy on Mar 8, 2010 8:46 AM PST reply actions  

and batum's fast break block

Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
1. n. Something that inspires awe
2. n. Nicolas Batum

by thomasikehara on Mar 8, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

LMA's help defense had me screaming at the TV

Rotations generally are a problem for the Blazers, and without a shotblocker (although Camby will be back shortly) a bad situation becomes worse. Of course, a good C is not worht much on the bench in foul trouble, a position our defenses lapses frequently put Greg in. Roy will be better, but the lack of progress on the defensive end scares me going forward.

Free AK1984.

"The two women were of a certain age and were clearly drunk... The only thing that I can get out of this is Why, since all these things happen to me, they couldn’t be two young girls and pretty? :-)" - Rudy Fernandez

by blazeraddict on Mar 8, 2010 9:08 AM PST reply actions  

I agree

our perimeter defenders need to try and slow down guard penetration, but even really good defensive teams allow dribble penetration and defend the rim. LaMarcus shows no interest in defending the rim. If he doesn’t get a low swipe steal, forget about it. I can’t even remember the last time I saw him move his feet to challenge a dribble driver in the paint. You’re right it is frustrating and had me screaming too.

by JasonT on Mar 8, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

the lack of progress on the defensive end scares me going forward.

Ditto, this is why I always mention Thibodeau as a coaching candidate. If he could get Pierce and Alllen to play team defense…there’s hope for Roy and LMA with Tom as a D coordinator

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Step Up Nate

If you don’t step up and take a “T” the players are going to turn their back on you someday. Great coaches know how and when to take one for the team. Pop, Phil, Karl , Rick A. You sit there like some catholic school boy afraid of the nuns.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." Winston Churchill

by NOWINE on Mar 8, 2010 9:23 AM PST reply actions  

They were more than a few calls that got my blood boiling last night…especially those calls that went against Nick in the first quarter changed the tone of the game. More frustrating was watching the team wilt defensively after that. Nate should’ve been yelling at his players and refs.

by JasonT on Mar 8, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s too bad that this is such a reputation league.

In the Nuggets game against the Lakers, ’Melo fouled out on an AWFUL offensive foul call against Artest, apparently because the refs still believe Artest is a good defender.

Now we see two really borderline calls against Batum, which were called largely because of Carmelo’s reputation.

If you’re going to call the game like that, Carmelo cannot be defended. He will just muscle his way to the basket and shoot freethrows every time.

by atomiccafe on Mar 8, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

You nailed it!

I was at that game in LA vs Denver. And Artest got away with wayyyy more than Batum did defending Melo. If the refs called the game against Artest like they did Batum, Artest would’ve fouled out in the first quarter. Melo is such a great offensive player, even if Batum is allowed to defend him, Melo is still at an advantage.

by JasonT on Mar 8, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Melo is a beast

I can’t say that I have a single critique about his offensive game. Any team would be lucky to have him. If you ask me his jumper is better than Lebron or Kobes

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 8, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

oh yeah

I believe he is the only player in the league with elite skills in all five offensive areas.

Getting to the line and making free throws
Mid-range game
Three point shot
Finishing at the rack
Transition

The finished product as far as scoring. What sets LeBron apart is his passing (and defense).

by atomiccafe on Mar 8, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

not to mention

Melo was finding his teammates (Smith) behind the line when Portland tried to double

Billups is the brains behind that outfit, and Chauncy has made a huge impact on Melo’s BBIQ

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Just want to say

Chris Anderson is a complete tool.

That is all.

by sagcat on Mar 8, 2010 9:31 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Yet

I bet if we could steal him in a trade you’d love having him guarding the rim.

"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave

by DonkeyShins on Mar 8, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Bad game

Roy’s defense was awful, LMA was passive.

Billups and Melo did whatever they wanted on offense

Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson

by Benson on Mar 8, 2010 10:29 AM PST reply actions  

Batum got scouted really well

On his first backdoor cut they closed the door really early, it would have worked against another team. And they were running into him all the time he played, even if he didn’t commit fouls he took them so well done. He was the only player known for his defense playing so it was an easy choice to try to make him foul out.

by chuky on Mar 8, 2010 11:01 AM PST reply actions  

Star System

It’s Brandon’s team. It’s LA’s team. What happens when you have a star system and the stars have an off night? We saw it. Brandon 3 for 14 (it didn’t look that good); LA 6 for 14. So we lost. You can’t say the Blazers had an off night. Brandon and LA had bad nights.

I don’t “blame” Brandon or LA. These things happen, people have bad nights. I also don’t think Brandon’s 100%.

Here’s my beef. When a shooter is cold, how long does the COACH run the offense through him. This is especially wrong with a team like the Blazers. While we haven’t necessarily developed our other offensive players, and almost NEVER run plays for them, we have a wealth of talent that isn’t being used.

Bayless and Rudy had respectable games and they were not first choice on offense. Being second or third choice does not give you the quality shot that you get when a play is set for you. Even the players like Batum who did not score that well didn’t have the benefit of being first choice or having set plays.

The funny thing is, this strategy hurts LA and Roy as well. When the defense knows that the offense will run through (1) Roy adn (2) LA, both of these guys get swarmed and as a result get worse shots.

Solution: open up the offense. Use the talent on the team. When someone is hot, feed them the ball. I’ve watched the Lakers play without making Kobe the offensive focus. Scrap the BS about Brandon’s team. Sure he’s a great player, but we want a great team. There’s no advantage to building a wealth of talent if you don’t exploit it.

by Tim Tim on Mar 8, 2010 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

great in hindsight

but how do you know if your star player is going to have an off night until its over? It wasn’t like Brandon was just shooting 3s all night, he was aggressive on offense and just couldn’t finish his drives. I completely agree with your first 2 statements but after that you lost me.

To say the defense knows that the offense will run through Roy and LA is a ridiculous argument. We knew Denver would go through Carmelo, but that’s the thing, you can’t stop a star player. That’s why they are stars. And it’s not like we’re the only team. There’s a reason guys like Carmelo and Lebron avg 25+ pg. They are just that good. No amount of coaching will change that.

So just like you said, we live and die by BRoy and LA, and when they have an off night, we lose. End of story.

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 8, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

The problem is the offensive scheme

this isn’t hindsight – I’ve been saying it all season.

by Tim Tim on Mar 8, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Sandbagging

Andre Miller could have been dunking all year and instead he’s been holding it back from the fans. Why must he be so selfish?

by tominhawaii on Mar 8, 2010 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

he can score 52 points in a game, too

’Dre must only care about himself to keep being to darn unselfish!

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Camby

it seems to me doesn’t want to play on this team and shipped it in for that Denver game. He didn’t want to play against his former team and went back on that ankle injury. He hasn’t been with this team very long and I just don’t see the urgency in him that I see in people who have been with this team and plan on being on this team in the future. For being this consummate professional he doesn’t seem to be giving it 100%. We really could have used him last night and he didn’t show up.

by JmarcL4 on Mar 8, 2010 4:27 PM PST reply actions  

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