PRS on McMillan and Pace

Interesting statistical points made showing why a McMillan run team will probably never be a fast paced team, and why that might not be a bad thing.

almost 2 years ago T Darkstar 13 comments 1 recs |

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Some good stuff in that article

Thanks for posting

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by tcwoods on Mar 6, 2010 7:51 PM PST reply actions

I still would love to see how we could do under a differant coach

if our guys have learned to be efficient through McMillan, what if we got either a hard core offensive or hard core defensive coach after him, imagine what they could do then, I just think Nate is going to keep pushing the same thing and our guys have learned all they are going to from him. Give us someone with some creativity next and see what our guys can do.

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by jlarose78 on Mar 6, 2010 8:41 PM PST reply actions

hm

why do you think this:

I just think Nate is going to keep pushing the same thing and our guys have learned all they are going to from him.

So many of our players are very young, and even the old guys seem able to learn Nate’s style (witness Miller’s dramatic drop in turnovers). I’m not saying Nate’s system is the best (or even the best for the Blazers), but a “hunch” without evidence or even reasoning isn’t particularly convincing.

by Marvin100 on Mar 6, 2010 11:05 PM PST up reply actions

nellie and d'antoni both run fast paced systems.

they definitely are basking in a lot of success and have won numerous titles.

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by Tofu Anonymous on Mar 6, 2010 11:20 PM PST reply actions

Cough, cough!

by BrewDude on Mar 6, 2010 11:56 PM PST up reply actions

they definitely are basking in a lot of succuess and have won numerous titles

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Mar 7, 2010 2:26 AM PST up reply actions

Yeah those Showtime Lakers played at a snail's pace and never won anything either...

by Visionary2 on Mar 10, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions

I don’t think people have as big an issue with Nate’s pace as much as the overall scheme.

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by Cablinasian on Mar 7, 2010 1:24 AM PST reply actions

I agree

Its not that they don’t get out and run fast-breaks often. Its the fact that when we do get down the court, one person dribbles the ball for 12 seconds, while a bunch of people stand around and then most likely an iso is played. No off-the-ball movement or assists from off-the-ball movement whatsoever.

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by dukedee on Mar 7, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions

I blame the players.

Unless Nate has been telling them to stand around and not play basketball while the clock runs.

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by T Darkstar on Mar 7, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions

when you clear out half the court to allow roy to operate there tends to be

precious little room for off ball movement. this team has so much potential to use screen/roll yet you seldom ever seen it. aldridge/roy or aldridge/miller shoud be able to do this all nite long, and if you have cutters moving it would see a lot of layups or backdoor passes

by utahcoyote on Mar 7, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions

Nate is an absolutely unimaginative offense coach...

I have a problem that Nate tells the team to push, but evidently he hasn’t shown them how to… I have a problem with an NBA offense that revolves around ONE player moving around picks. I have a problem with our signature play being a 1:5 drive whose most frequent outcome is a miss and a yell… hoping for the refs to bail us out, which won’t happen in the playoffs…

Nate has to go, the sooner, the better…

by Visionary2 on Mar 7, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions

I'd like to see more cuts to the hoop myself

If Portland could manage to hold down the turnovers and still make some nice interior passes, this would be very good.

Honestly, I say roll more on the pick and roll and get off ball players making cuts to the basket (like we started to see when Oden was in the post) and I don’t care too much about pace. Not all turnovers are created equal, of someone loses the ball out of bounds, so be it. I can live with that. It’s the turnovers that end up in the hands of an opposing player that kill a team.
If we keep the live ball turnovers down and Oden is back soaking up rebounds, then opposing teams will most always be attacking a set defense. Then, even an OK half court defense will look pretty decent.

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by HurraKane212 on Mar 7, 2010 11:29 AM PST reply actions