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Game 74 Preview: Blazers vs. Thunder

Game Time:  5:00 4:00 p.m. Pacific  TV:  Comcast

Well now, who would have thought two years ago that we'd have a back-to-back with the Hornets and Thunder and view the Oklahoma City game as the more precarious and important of the two?  And yet here we are.  The Thunder have a record of 44-27 and it's a nice 44-27.  They've lost games but they've managed to spread out those losses, never going on a long losing jag.  They've had 3 losing streaks of 3 games and one stretch where they lost 5 of 6 but everything else has been singles and doubles.  They always bounce back.  As the season has progressed those losses have been spread farther and farther.  They've won 9 of 13 games this month and have already beaten the Rockets and L*kers on this homestand.  It's the kind of pattern that establishes confidence in a young team.  It's exactly the pattern the Blazers evidenced as they rose from a bad team into a good one.  The Thunder have shown this year that they're ready to be a good team.

The most striking improvement for OKC has been their defense.  They're currently 5th in the league in defensive efficiency and 4th in field goal percentage allowed.  They make up for relatively weak interior defense by hustling back, keeping opponents from scoring on the break, then giving help when necessary.  They have decent speed which helps defensively but the real story is that they've committed to that end of the floor.  Defense is about more than individual prowess.  6-7 shooting guard Thabo Sefolosha is probably the best example of that on the team but individually you'd raise your eyebrows at many of their defenders.  Defense also takes trust, awareness, and five guys working together intentionally to achieve a goal.  (This is part of why the old adage of "defense wins championships" holds truth.  Those are some of the same basic building blocks for playoff success.)  You can tell watching a team when that switch has been flipped.  It's been flipped for the Thunder.  Thus Kobe Bryant scoring 11 against them the other night and the L*kers scoring but 75 while committing 18 turnovers.  Admittedly it was not a typical L.A. performance and probably isn't a repeatable experience, but the Thunder had something to do with it.  The Thunder aren't at the stage where they're holding everybody down every night, but they're capable on a given night.

OKC's offense obviously revolves around Kevin Durant, who is averaging just short of 30 ppg this season plus 7.5 rebounds.   Russell Westbrook has been ill, thus up and down, lately but he's still averaging 16 points and 8 assists on the year.  Jeff Green is the utility third guy with 15 points and 6 rebounds.  Together they lead an offense that's solid most nights, spectacular some.  They like to run.  They're fine in the halfcourt.  They get good percentage shots, a category into which most Durant shots are falling nowadays.  They're OK at scoring in the paint.  They're great from the line.  If they have a weakness it's three-point shooting, something only guard James Harden excels at.  Durant is decent.  Everybody else you're happy to see behind the arc.

The big men are an unsung crew but capable.  Nenad Krstic (8.5 and 5 in 23 mpg) starts but the Thunder also get contributions from reserve forward/centers Nick Collison and Serge Ibaka, both of whom give them around 6 points and 5 rebounds.  All of them understand the team plan and follow it.  Rookie Ibaka has even shown flashes of promise when doing so.

This game features two good teams who have done fairly well in the weeks prior.  This game features two teams complete with stars and solid supporting casts.  This team features one-and-three-quarters teams that pundits have labeled official Franchises of the Future©®TM in the NBA.  (The missing ¼ accounted for in Oden's absence.)  Not since vampires fought werewolves has there been such a titanic struggle of youthful exuberance.  This game also features two teams who have beaten each other up in the past couple of years...OKC delivering some disappointing losses to Portland in between the Blazers trying to continue the pounding that was de rigueur when the Thunder were struggling.  Most importantly this game features the team sitting in 6th (OKC) in the West right now competing against the team sitting 8th (Portland) with but two losses separating them and few games remaining.  Neither team is an automatic home-court winner and both are good on the road, so the Blazers are hoping that the homecourt advantage won't tell.  If Oklahoma City puts on a prime defensive performance, however, that hope may be in vain.  The Blazers love bad defense.  The Blazers often crumble against good defense.  Portland is way more than capable of ripping this game away from the Thunder given the chance.  It's a sign of respect for what the Thunder have demonstrated this season when I say that the ball is in OKC's court, deciding whether that happens.  If the Thunder play like a legitimate, polished, committed playoff team the Blazers will have a hard time winning.  It's not that Portland is that much worse than the Thunder right now.  Rather Oklahoma City has been growing to this point all year, getting more cohesive and focused, while the Blazers have been stuck at this point all year, fighting lack of cohesion brought on by the ever-shifting lineups.  The team that's practiced in playing well has an advantage over the team that finds itself playing well.

I expect a gutsy effort from both squads and I'm going to be plenty disappointed if we don't see it.  I'd be more shocked, and think it would be more telling, if the Thunder come out flat or fail in their execution.  They have all the incentive not to.  They still have something to prove, whereas everything the Blazers have to prove comes next year at the earliest.  I'd also be sad if Portland comes out flat as this could be a great game.  But in reality the Blazers have less at risk in a loss than OKC does.  The pressure's on for both teams, though.  We'll see who ends up king of the mountain on this night.

See how Thunder fans are prepping over at WelcometoLoudCity.

Enter tonight's Jersey Contest form here.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com

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got to quibble with this point
Rather Oklahoma City has been growing to this point all year, getting more cohesive and focused, while the Blazers have been stuck at this point all year, fighting lack of cohesion brought on by the ever-shifting lineups.

I’d argue this is the most dynamic and cohesive the Blazers have been since 2000…

At the very least, they are hardly “stuck” where they have been all year – very clearly they have made significant progress – with most of the parts working well. Early on, I didn’t have much hope that Miller would fit in. I’m glad I’ve been proven wrong.

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 27, 2010 11:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Dave is just keeping things real

he’s kept the pregame optimism on the “down low” all season and so far it’s been golden…there’s no need to mess with karma now

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 28, 2010 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

But it has taken time for that cohesion to develop

I think that’s one of the points that Dave is trying to make

Roy and Miller, for example, needed about 30-40 games together to learn how to play off of one another, which they are doing much better now. However, with Blake starting the season with Roy in the starting lineup, then Roy’s injury trouble, that court time together was ‘interrupted’. Remember how forced it looked in November when Roy and Miller were paired together?

Camby also needed 10 or so games to get to the point where he is now in terms of comfortability and cohesion. Same for Batum once he got back from his injury. Etc., etc.

Compare this with OKC. Durant, Westbrook, Green and Sefalosha have missed zero games this year. The only starter to miss games for the Thunder is Krstic, who missed two games (both losses, coincidentally – or maybe not coincidentally). Those guys starting really putting it together about midway through the season, after playing 40 or so games together. The Blazers haven’t had that luxury, unfortunately. It’s not an excuse, it’s just the way it is.

Portland needs to seek to continue to find cohesion here in the last couple of weeks leading up to the playoffs, to get the momentum they’ll need if they want any chance of getting past the first round. Given how the starters especially are moving the ball on offense and helping on defense, I see positive signs that the cohesion is finally starting to show itself – and I want to see more!

"It's Our Time":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99POVJfglY

by Storyteller on Mar 28, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

ditto, there's no substitute for actual playing time together

but you can put 5 rookies together for an 82 game season and they still couldn’t beat 5 veterans who have only played together for a couple of weeks, in a 7 game series. Miller and Camby were going to figure out how to mesh with their teammates sooner or later. Will it be soon enough to win a playoff series?

My favorite example is the ’77 team—those guys were young and they came together really quick, during the 2nd half of the season. Then in the post season they all played with a synergy that is still being talked about, and not just in Portland

So it can happen, it’s just extremely rare and all of the breaks have to go your way

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 28, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dave, thank you for giving us more to read before bed

Yes you are correct in saying Blazers do better against teams with a mediocre defense. If you say Okie City has a less than great defense, I sleep well tonight.

by thebigoutdoors on Mar 27, 2010 11:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn't

I said they have a good defense. Toss and turn.

—Dave

by Dave on Mar 28, 2010 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cuuurrrsssseeeeee Yoooooooooouuuuuuu!

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Mar 28, 2010 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Appreciate the clarification but could it have waited another eight hours

I kind of hopefully hung on this phrase: They make up for relatively weak interior defense by….
Since strong interior defense has been a Blazer death nil, I slept well until my five am prostate alarm brought me to the computer. Now here I am pouring over stats when I should be sleeping. Thanks a lot.

by thebigoutdoors on Mar 28, 2010 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dave, appreciate the clarification but couldn't it wait another eight hours?

I hung on the phrase: "They make up for relatively weak interior defense by… " Being that a strong interior defense has been the Blazer death nil, I had a good night’s sleep. Now after a five a.m. prostate and your early morning update, I am pouring over stats when I normally return to a peaceful slumber.
Thanks again, Dave

by thebigoutdoors on Mar 28, 2010 6:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Time for some KD love from Ben

Oh well.

Beat the Blunder.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Mar 27, 2010 11:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

Sunday 6 PM local starts.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Mar 27, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looking forward to this game.

I’m not expecting a win but at least hoping to see the ball movement and defensive cohesiveness through the full 48 and if that’s not enough to get the win I’m fine with that.

Lover of everything Batum.
#88

by RyanRTE on Mar 27, 2010 11:49 PM PDT reply actions  

the thunder arent in control of the outcome as dave suggests...

the Blazers are the better team of the two, even w/o Oden. I know looking back on the past is kinda pointless, but many people don’t stop to realize that even with all the other injuries, if Roy hadn’t missed those 15 games, we would most likely be tied for, if not in sole possession of 2nd place in western conference……..w/o our 2 centers. suck on that sonics

by 64-18 on Mar 28, 2010 12:06 AM PDT reply actions  

The Thunder are 80% Durant, 10% Westbrook, 5% Green, and 5% nothing

Against good teams, that nothing percentage goes up by a lot. Blazers just need to control Durant and they are fine.

Wait, did any of that make any sense?

"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.

by LACK on Mar 28, 2010 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sort of...

The part that makes sense is controlling Durant. Easier said than done, of course, but it worked against Dallas. They stopped Dirk, and nobody else was able to fully pick up the slack.

I’d like to see a similar strategy tonight; do what you have to do against Durant. Play with energy and cohesion, let MIller do his thing, pound the ball inside to LMA, and run just enough plays for Roy to make OKC respect him.

I would also point out that the Blazers are 13-4 in second games of back-to-backs, this season.

I actually like the Blazers chances. My hope is that OKC will be a little nervous. They don’t have a lot of experience playing in important games.

by hercher on Mar 28, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

That worked against the Lakers.

Aw *&$%#@.

I'm wondering if Blazer fans are the Zombie Apocalypse I've been hearing about.

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by T Darkstar on Mar 28, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think LA was just relaxing. They've clinched their position pretty much right? Doubt it was

OKC being so GOOD…rather LA just didn’t try.
Teams have been known to do this.

by Natsthecat on Mar 28, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

My hope is that OKC will be a little nervous

My hope is that they’ll be self-congratulatory after beating L*A and Portland will catch them during their “hangover” period

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 28, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

IMO

It’s less about trying to stop one player and more about playing solid help defense all around. Durant might be hot from the outside and might score 30. But I don’t want to see him or Westbrook get to the hole all night long. If OKC wins by hitting jumper after jumper, so be it. If they win by getting easy buckets in the paint and lots of tranisition dunks, I’ll be much more upset.

On offense, it will be interesting to see if OKC tries what other teams have tried recently against the Blazers – lots of double teams on Roy. The last few games, Roy has done a good job of pulling the double-teams to him to create space for others. As long as others can hit those shots once Brandon gets them the ball (like against Dallas and NO)…..

"It's Our Time":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99POVJfglY

by Storyteller on Mar 28, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t want to see … Westbrook get to the hole

Do whatever you have to do to keep this kid off the offensive boards

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 28, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering that they are one of the healthiest teams

and we are the most injured team, yet still within 2 losses of them. What I mean is that our record doesn’t reflect our team as well as theirs does.

by Sir.Ludo on Mar 28, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Blazers have really been coming together lately

I don’t want to jinx it but this team is really gelling now that Camby and Batum are regulars in the starting lineup. I haven’t been this optimistic about this team since … right before the playoffs last year?

by Neama on Mar 28, 2010 12:40 AM PDT reply actions  

yes indeedie

4:oo start

Portland Trail Blazers - where injuries and people come together"

by debra31098 on Mar 28, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh great. Time for the Zombie Sonics, again?

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Mar 28, 2010 1:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Blazers finally have a rotation that doesn't make your head spin.

With a solid starting five and Rudy solidly in the sixth man spot. It makes the team better. I hope Nate holds in place through the end of the year.

by acorn on Mar 28, 2010 1:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Really?

What I remember about that game was the Thunder’s defense. Their offense wasn’t that great.

"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.

by LACK on Mar 28, 2010 6:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

It looked like the L*kers were out for lunch

I think it was more the L*kers playing poorly then the Thunders playing great. I think Kobe had something like 10 turn-overs by himself. Of course I don’t know why he turned it over, but it is not a typical Kobe game.

hg

by BBK on Mar 28, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

the Thunder were hitting every jumpshot

That means the law of averages will kick in and OKC will come crashing down to earth and leave a smoking crater.

Of course, the Blazers shot it well last night, too…but they already had their “bad shooting night” against the Wiz

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 28, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

My vibes tells me we will win

Of course my vibes are often wrong, but I think everybody sees the Blazers as disorientated or as Dave said stuck. With the addition of Cambyman and Batman healing from his injury, we are a much better team and getting better each game.

 The defense on Phoenix, Dallas and even NOH shows our growth. All though the Phoenix game was a loss, we played them good enough with just a little offense could have beat them. That to me is growth.

Anyway, I feel an other upset coming, I hope this time I am right.

I am traveling to Burns to watch the game so hopefully I don’t jinks it.

hg

by BBK on Mar 28, 2010 3:35 AM PDT reply actions  

It will be well worth the drive

You will be pleasantly surprised in how fluid they have become if the same Blazers show today that played last night.

by thebigoutdoors on Mar 28, 2010 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

What's up with those two things?

And I really doubt that Jordan shoes would be only $35 unless they are tattered and ripped up.

"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.

by LACK on Mar 28, 2010 6:25 AM PDT reply actions  

bring it on

The strong point of the new starting lineup has been offense. (aside from the two klunkers, Wiz and Suns games)

That offense has been against teams not known for being strong defensive teams. It will be different tonight.

This will be a great test to see if Blazers can still produce on the offensive end when up against a good defensive team.

by lsjogren on Mar 28, 2010 8:11 AM PDT reply actions  

all stars

Blazers have been doing a good job concentrating defense against all-stars and keeping them to subpar games. (Nowitzki, Paul) Thus it would stand to reason that a big focus of their game will be on shutting down Durant, and based on their recent track record it seems like they have a good prospect of succeeding at that.

by lsjogren on Mar 28, 2010 8:15 AM PDT reply actions  

hm

Back to back Collisons. Hope this one doesn’t shoot 1.000.

by lsjogren on Mar 28, 2010 8:16 AM PDT reply actions  

I think Portland can overcome Nick shooting 1-1

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 28, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

starting lineup

We know Blazers now have a fine starting lineup. And I noticed you can see that reflected in the Hollinger rankings.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/rankings?position=sf&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fhollinger%2frankings%3fposition%3dsf

Miller: 8th best point guard
Roy: 4th best shooting guard
Batum: 8th best small forward
Aldridge: 12th best power forward
Camby: 13th best center

(Oden is ranked 3rd best center but of course that doesn’t help. It does back up the point though, that if Oden can ever get healthy enough to play full seasons, look out.)

by lsjogren on Mar 28, 2010 8:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Nic is on his way up the charts!

and Batum’s got coaches like Monty to keep him humble and team-oriented

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 28, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

That Woj guy from yahoo/espn always brings it up every time the Blazers play

Of course, he thought that Conley at 4th was a good pick…and he thinks that the l*kers will win it all…

"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.

by LACK on Mar 28, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Roy

will need to really pick his spots tonight. I see this game as similar to the Dallas matchup. Roy needs to defer quite a bit because he’ll see a lot of Thabo and possibly some doubles. Luckily, I see him doing that. His offensive IQ when he has his confidence is through the roof. I can’t help but think Miller only helps the situation.

On the defensive side, we need to play Durant very similar to Dirk, lots of fronting, keep a guy in his back, etc. On the 3pt line, we really need to focus on Harden like we did Jason Terry, close hard and force him off the perimeter. The Thunder have been a real surprise this year, and we certainly can’t fall asleep on them, but I like our odds to win with our potent combination of youth and veterans.

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 28, 2010 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Me too!!!!

I think Phoenix, Dallas and OKC has similar games. I think the 3 plays good defense, but not great. All three has one great shooter and a great contributor in Kidd, Nash and Westbrook. We have Dre, LMA and BRoy, what more is there to say. We just need to bring our game and take care of business.

I have not got to see high-lights of the game. I have read and listened. It was said that BRoy was posting up more and scoring easier maybe from Dre’s teaching. A friend that watched the game from Burns LOL. Said that BRoy posted up and went left most of the night, so watch him post up and go right tonight to confuse the dbl team, and as you said with his IQ you can bet he will set OKC up and will defer a lot.

I think you are also right on the defensive end. Also, don’t forget we have Batman who in the last match-up with Durant feels that Durant beat him late in the game to much. And like Batum’s memory is as long as his arms. ask Dirk. Dirk was the one that hurt his arm. Ask Gusal for dunking on him. I think Durant will get some of his points but he will have to work for all of them.

hg

by BBK on Mar 28, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

so you think Roy needs to defer becase he's facing a decent defender like thabho?

superstars and team leaders dont defer just cuz theyre facing any defender. he faced artest and battier in the playoffs (about the best defensive duo you can throw at someone, and he lit them up. thabho aint got nothin on BROY

by 64-18 on Mar 28, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said he needs to pick his spots, and defer when necessary

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 28, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

KD is a really good kid (not just in b ball)

I read somewhere that he went back to school in Texas to take some classes and he slept on a blow up mattress in his friends dorm for 3 months. What kind of NBA superstar would do that, when making millions a year?

great kid, too bad he’s not a center

Odenized

by CroRupt on Mar 28, 2010 12:36 PM PDT reply actions  

funny

the poll on who is gonna win has like 85% Blazers due to the BEdgers. Anyways, this game should be interesting. I think Portland can win this game, but if they play like they’ve been playing the past few games and lose I’m fine with that to.

Lover of everything Batum.
#88

by RyanRTE on Mar 28, 2010 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm excited to see what Nico Batumy is gonna whip up

Remember his comments after the last time we played the Thunder about how he was frustrated he couldn’t guard Durant or something like that? He always tries to bring it defensively after being bested the last time.

by thetsaiguy on Mar 28, 2010 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

MEM lost :)

Portland Trail Blazers - where injuries and people come together"

by debra31098 on Mar 28, 2010 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

According to Hollingers playof odds

We are official 100% in the playoffs, with only OKC as 99.9%
Link

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Mar 28, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

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