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Dwight Jaynes simply unloads on the agent for Kevin Pritchard and Tom Penn, Warren LeGarie, going back 20 years to question some of Legarie's recent statements. He then uses that to put the current situation into some perspective...
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Look, I understand the role of an agent. His one and only responsibility is to do what’s best for HIS CLIENT. Not any team or any fan base. Please, folks, when you’re listening to this character rant and rave and talk about "drive-bys" and all the rest, remember where he’s coming from. He’d like to get the attention yanked away from Penn and he’d like to get Pritchard a contract extension. That’s his job.
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Jaynes also seems to publicly back KP as he concludes...

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Look, if it’s true, as True Hoop is hinting, that Pritchard and Penn were somehow trying to steal power from THE OWNER, man, that’s about as crazy a thing to do as I’ve ever heard. I mean, it’s Paul Allen’s team. And he wants to have a hand in operating it — he always has.

To try and mess with that is so dumb a man would deserve to be fired. And I just don’t think KP is that sort of guy. Or that dumb. And I’d be real careful about sources on this story, too. There are a few guys inside the NBA who would love to have this job and would do anything to get it. I’d listen to their gossip just about as intently as I’d listen to Warren LeGarie, Blazermaniac.
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Right on

I will say this again, if they wanted to fire Pritchard they would have fired Pritchard

"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man

by PDXBuckeye on Mar 20, 2010 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

but that doesn't mean

KP’s gonna get an extension, or that he won’t get tired of waiting for one

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 20, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

And?

Getting worked up over this just does nothing but create distraction for everybody and is the AGENTS goal…

IF KP decide to leave so be it, that is why people do the contract think. I hand found throughtout my life doing the same thing at the same place for much over 8 years causes one to become less effective anyway. You KNOW too much, your influence is too great, needed new ideas are not explored. Not because you are not good at what you do, staff gets used to your habits and serve those habits, less creativity flowing…

I am all for awarding loyalty and performance, but I see the value you changing things up too…

"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man

by PDXBuckeye on Mar 21, 2010 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree to an extent

I think the fans are going to get worked up if KP isn’t extended, we already see evidence of that. KP has been silent, we only hear what his agent is thinking (through Canzano) and LaGarie’s “shopping Kevin and Tom around as a set to other teams” comments are telling. Pritchard either already knows his time in Portland is short, or he’s playing coy through his agent. Playing coy doesn’t sound like the KP we’ve come to know, but maybe that’s because we haven’t seen the side of him that the other GMs are familiar with?

I’m not sure if it’s time to replace the management group, but it’s not my call, anyway. If Paul Allen thinks he’s ready for “new” roste-building ideas, he’ll get the final say. And the media/fans will take turns raging and scratching their heads. It’ll be good for ratings, unlike calm waters

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 21, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Could it have any meaning that LeGarie is also the agent of Mike Dunleavy? And Kiki? Maybe he just has a bad run at the moment

As said in the other post, I don’t think the fear is so much that KP will get fired, but that he could become fed up and quit in order to go to a team where he has free hand to rebuild from the ground up. Which – so far – is his biggest strength anyway, finding depth in the draft. Then again the goal is the championship, and that goal should still be attractive.

by Norsktroll on Mar 20, 2010 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  

By Kiki I meant “Kiki and Del Harris”. Rumor has it that their time in NJ is about to end soon after the failed attempt to make Harris head coach (he’s already gone) freeing Kiki to go back to the GM job under the new ownership, while president Rod Thorn is there to stay.

by Norsktroll on Mar 20, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

We googled the same stuff

as of 2005

Denver GM Kiki Vandeweghe, New Jersey GM Ed Stefanski, former Boston GM Chris Wallace, L.A. Clipper coach Mike Dunleavy, Phoenix coach Mike D’Antoni, Denver coach George Karl and scattered assistant coaches including Lionel Hollins, Tony Brown, Dwane Casey, Mike Brown, T.R. Dunn and Del Harris.

A murderers’ row. team murderers, that is

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Mar 20, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

those were some of his clients

http://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/story_2nd.php?story_id=29645

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Mar 20, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least George Karl still is. And also recently had some problems getting an extension in Denver.

by Norsktroll on Mar 20, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dwight Jaynes: KEEPING IT REAL.

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by Mr. Knox on Mar 20, 2010 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

When Dwight Jaynes speaks...

…people listen!

"I was surprised, I was listening to the coach on the bench and behind me, she touches me and says, ‘Rudy, I love you. Nice to meet you. Good game.’ - Rudy

by The Mallorcan Rocket on Mar 20, 2010 11:53 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I often forget how much influence (be it good or bad) sports agents have on the success of pro teams.

It’s a sad aspect of professional sports. If the best collegiate hoopsters stayed with their respective teams for all four years – perhaps i wouldn’t follow the NBA any more.

Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.

by Net Ranger on Mar 20, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Agent crawls out from under rock and walks around like a real human, film at eleven.

I am perpendicularly pissed off right now!!!!!!

by pxilpooshr on Mar 20, 2010 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Advice to Blazer fans:

1) Never pay attention to what agents say.

2) Don’t worry about what is going on in the front office. We can’t do much about it and besides, the team is basically built.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Mar 20, 2010 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

besides, the team is basically built.

I hope not, because I don’t think the current pieces fit together well enough to win it all

The young core’s OK (as soon as Greg’s healthy) but a few more veteran role players need to identified and acquired. Like I’ve said many times, KP is good at rebuilding with a hammer and nails, but the finishing touches to the roster will require fine brushstrokes

I agee we can’t do anything that goes on in the front office, unless they really mess things up and season ticket holders decide they don’t want to renew.

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 20, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have a weird understanding of construction ...

… if you equate painting a structure with it not being basically complete.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Mar 23, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jaynes sure can be a cranky old curmudgeon sometimes, but I love when he writes pieces like this to remind everyone to get real.

Google Warren Legarie and see how much nasty stuff comes up. It’s quite eyebrow raising. The one that is troubling to me about all this however is KP’s status. He wasn’t at the game last night, and seems to have fallen off the earth. It does make you wonder. I hope he’s just weathering the storm, or on a long scouting trip or something. If he really is that safe in his job he would do Blazer fans a service to be out in the open more.

"What people need to know is that those pictures were taken a year and a half ago, and I've grown since then." - Greg Oden

by dario argento on Mar 20, 2010 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

If there is any truth to Warren LeGarie being a tool

Then KP needs to step up and kick him to the curb….

Seriously – Pritchard’s credibility automatically takes a hit with upper Blazer management if that is management’s opinion of his agent. It wouldn’t be the first time a sports management team made decisions based on the agent, and not the talent.

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 20, 2010 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

on the other hand

KP’s opinion of Blazer management may be that he would prefer to be somewhere else….

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 20, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why did they fire Penn?

According to Miller:
No HR problem involved.
No Minnesota involved.
No Clippers involved.
No power struggle with Upper Mgmt involved.
What’s left?
It certainly does make one wonder.

by dawgman47 on Mar 20, 2010 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Philosophical differences about future roster composition?

by Norsktroll on Mar 20, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

possibly

but apparently there was no rift between KP and Penn on anything like this, so how would getting rid of Penn help resolve the philosophical differences between KP/Penn and upper management?

by atomiccafe on Mar 20, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

so how would getting rid of Penn help resolve the philosophical differences between KP/Penn and upper management?

Shot across the bow. Allen and the Vulcans saying “we’re going to get our way”

Or else.

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 20, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

depends

he’ll want to make sure there’s another job waiting for him. He’s good, but not universally liked around the league. Could he do elsewhere what he’s done in PDX without a rich owner? Not everyone in the NBA is convinced

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 21, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes this is possible

A common tactic in high profile situations where there are internal problems is to neuter the guy in charge (in this case KP) by forcing him to work with a right hand man designated by the higher-ups.

by atomiccafe on Mar 21, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or the problem was just with Penn...
so how would getting rid of Penn help resolve the philosophical differences between KP/Penn and upper management?

They may have had philosophical differences with the way Penn wanted to negotiate contracts or manage the team’s cap space. Or he did something sleazy and they’ve agreed not to rat him out in exchange for his protection of confidential Blazer information.

"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave

by DC Blazer on Mar 21, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

although this would have to be pretty serious

They may have had philosophical differences with the way Penn wanted to negotiate contracts or manage the team’s cap space.

Because you would think the best way for the higher ups to keep everyone happy would be to tell KP to keep Penn in line, not fire Penn. And it’s weird because I don’t get the sense that KP and Penn had disagreements…

by atomiccafe on Mar 21, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is the first thing I jokingly suggested

Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’

by 92wastheyear on Mar 20, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t an personal indiscretion/transgression get filed under “HR issue”.

by Norsktroll on Mar 20, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be HR

After giving it some more thought it may have just beeen a personality thing. Someone above him probably just did not like him. Bring in the Vulcinator and Penn is no more.

by dawgman47 on Mar 20, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course, I'm joking, but HR covers sleeping with the wife of a co-worker?

That’s one way to categorize it, but Larry Miller could certainly say it is not an HR issue.

Anyway. One too many arguments with Paul or some one else in management — and/or not respecting suggestions of others consistently, I could see that.

by PoliSam on Mar 20, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The first rule of HR Issues is you tell no one about HR issues

Welcome to modern business, it is called covering your legal ass…Haven’t any of you ever worked anywhere where someone was fired in a corporate setting?

Management never tells you why, NEVER.

You can guess, you might even guess correctly, they still will not tell you why. NEVER.

"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man

by PDXBuckeye on Mar 21, 2010 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well he is like 85.

"What people need to know is that those pictures were taken a year and a half ago, and I've grown since then." - Greg Oden

by dario argento on Mar 20, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

When it comes to the NBA, Dwight and Vance have seen it all

and they’re not afraid to call ’em like they see ’em

Does that make them right 100% of the time? No, but I don’t doubt that they’ve got sources who give them a lot more unfiltered info than what comes out of Blazer’s HQ

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 20, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

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