Relief Junk March 16
by southern oregon on Mar 16, 2010 8:38 PM PDT
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Due to Pixel overload in the previous Junk Drawer here is some new junk,may I suggest folks put multiple pics or gifs in a link?
I dont have any thing really junk worthy to say,I am planting some brocclii and onions tomorow and will deal with the tomatoes and pepper beds later, worked out cool that I have gone in with a couple friends on a garden this year so I can go the Islands for 3 weeks and have something going when I get home,I love this time of year.Is this 75 words?
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I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
hey i just got home.
whats this with some Penn guy getting fired? And will we ever know what he did?
I heard PA's sister survived or he would got away with it
by southern oregon on Mar 16, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
ZOIKS!
I was blinded to that by sick alley-oops and facials
not to mention Greg crotchifyin’ suckas
by Tyler Durrden on Mar 16, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
They used the old ghost legend to scare him away.
The short one says to the tall one, "If I were you, I'd be tall."
The tall one replies, "No, if you were me, I'd be short."
JINKIES!
I was blinded to that by sick alley-oops and facials
not to mention Greg crotchifyin’ suckas
by Tyler Durrden on Mar 16, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
tom penn is secretly
the real life version of dexter and allen found out about it, but because penn killed someone allen wanted dead he didn’t turn him into the police. Instead he just fired him and is using vague words to describe it because only him and penn know the real reason.
the few, the proud, the blazers
by HD on Mar 16, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard that he attempted to "Swirly" Patty Mills
I was blinded to that by sick alley-oops and facials
not to mention Greg crotchifyin’ suckas
by Tyler Durrden on Mar 16, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
This is his drivers license picture
Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’
by 92wastheyear on Mar 16, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I LOVE CLOWNS!!!
I was blinded to that by sick alley-oops and facials
not to mention Greg crotchifyin’ suckas
by Tyler Durrden on Mar 16, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
This clown would love to love you
Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’
by 92wastheyear on Mar 16, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
really? THAT'S KILLER!!!!!
I was blinded to that by sick alley-oops and facials
not to mention Greg crotchifyin’ suckas
by Tyler Durrden on Mar 16, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
He wants to show you his basement
It is all fixed up
Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’
by 92wastheyear on Mar 16, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, what's with all the leather and hooks and stuff?
I was blinded to that by sick alley-oops and facials
not to mention Greg crotchifyin’ suckas
by Tyler Durrden on Mar 16, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
its why he is so good at finding loopholes
he is used to finding them to get out of going to prison
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by HD on Mar 16, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like we need a new lawyer
Is Fan Far Away busy?
by southern oregon on Mar 16, 2010 8:48 PM PDT reply actions
There is a lot more to this Penn story than we know
His quotes saying he can say nothing means he probably had to sign a confidentiality deal, which means he may have done something.
But who knows?
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Somebody somewhere knows.
And if we don’t find out we’ll just have to make wild speculations.
I think he said something about Paul Allen’s sister.
Maybe he was involved with his sister
Nah.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I fell in love with Rip City.’
in light of the allegations by smith is it possible that this is code for “i really enjoy all the strip clubs”
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He "Rubbed people the wrong way"?
He rubbed strippers the wrong way?
Note: I don’t’ think this is true.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
he was fired for telling them to bring back zach and darius
so he could have “someone to make it rain with”
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by HD on Mar 16, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
My wife just texted me from a lecture about tai chi and says it's boring
I replied: At least you will know self defense……if the attacker is reeeeeeeeeeeal slow.
She thought this was funny
Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’
Being able to stand on one leg is under rated
by southern oregon on Mar 16, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Watch out old man
she now has the skills to take you out
Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’
by 92wastheyear on Mar 16, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
How about some turnips in that garden?
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
Official statement out
Philosophical differences, hmm:
Portland Trail Blazers Team President Larry Miller announced today that Tom Penn has been relieved of his duties as Vice President of Basketball Operations, effective immediately.
Miller cited philosophical differences as the reason for the dismissal of Penn, who joined the Trail Blazers as assistant general manager in 2007.
“We felt it was in the organization’s best interest to move in a different direction at this time,” Miller said. “This was not an easy decision, as Tom has played an integral role for us the past three seasons. We thank him for his contributions and wish him the best in the future.”
Found via Twitter
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I think Penn had an expiring contract.
And was let go for salary cap reasons.
by andru on Mar 16, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Also depending on when Larry Miller calls you to offer you Penn's job
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I dunno if you guys read this
dude from PTR does a travel review of Portland, including the game.
Free prezofdeath
First, great link.
Also, is anyone else not getting a new window on this one? My browser has been wonky the last few days.
every link I posted the other day was not opening in a new window, even though I checked the box each time
I was blinded to that by sick alley-oops and facials
not to mention Greg crotchifyin’ suckas
by Tyler Durrden on Mar 16, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
It's happened a lot here recently
I presumed it was a browser issue on my end, but it could be an SBN problem…
Yeah I figured as much.
I’m not sure if it’s a site or browser problem. I could test on a different browser, but it might connect to a different SBN server anyway, and I’m not up for troubleshooting past that…
They cheered from the very start of the game, and absolutely blew up during the 4th quarter. Fans in the “good seats” around me were just as passionate as the ones looking down from the nosebleeders, and everybody loved their team.
My experience as well, from my various experiences in the Garden and the Coliseum.
i can’t believe he couldn’t remember the name of Powell’s….
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
You can hear the MVP chants!!
The short one says to the tall one, "If I were you, I'd be tall."
The tall one replies, "No, if you were me, I'd be short."
I thought it was in LA when that happened
Because I wasn’t really paying attention. That’s laaame.
#52
Lakers fans have seemingly unlimited $ and desire
To be douches on the road.
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tom penn may or may not be a serial killer
it is also not known whether or not he finished his meal
the few, the proud, the blazers
by HD on Mar 16, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I also think in seriousness maybe Tom wanted Hedo
And when PA saw in person how bad Hedo was, he had to go.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
what like candy stripers?
I was blinded to that by sick alley-oops and facials
not to mention Greg crotchifyin’ suckas
by Tyler Durrden on Mar 16, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I was blinded to that by sick alley-oops and facials
not to mention Greg crotchifyin’ suckas
by Tyler Durrden on Mar 16, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
i am starting to feel a bit ill
i might need some medical attention.
"I told somebody to stop crying," Pendergraph said after the game. "Actually, I told them all to stop crying."
i heard that you were feeling ill
headache, fever, and a chill
i have come to restore your pluck
[if you want to know the rest watch Ferris Buehler]
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions
well ya his meal was in the strip club
he got a text from kp’s other blackberry saying “ur like totes fired lol ;)”
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by HD on Mar 16, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
When I say guilty as charged
Thats just what it means
by southern oregon on Mar 16, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
by pulling a cloudydays
are you referring to lying on bedge about having intercourse with someone you didnt?
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
i thought it was?
i coulda sworn you linked me.
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
fairly certain
you implied it on bedge….but i got you to spell it out on tinychat
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
95% certain?
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
how is she doing these days?
havent really talked to her since that all took place
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
thats a shame
she was pretty “talented” from what i remember
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
lol just take my word for it then
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
we were talking on facebook for awhile… she hasn’t been on in forever i guess so no more communication..
she had lost her computer
when i last talked to her…which kinda clued me into your deception.
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
i do too
maybe i’ll drunk dial her
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
her tongue reminds me of michael jordan's
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
i’m over it. plus your my favorite that i havent met.
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I must have been ignoring the JD at the time.
Or my memory is just not what it used to be.
#10 & #52
But we just meant 'pulling a cloudydays' for being a cheater.
Since cloudydays cheats like other BEdgers eat crackers. But now I want to know your story.
#10 & #52
lol
hugs no homo
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought this picture was curious
add your own captions
I was blinded to that by sick alley-oops and facials
not to mention Greg crotchifyin’ suckas
by Tyler Durrden on Mar 16, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Blake (whispers): He is sooo outta here...hehe
Kp (whispers even lower): and so are you!!
Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’
by 92wastheyear on Mar 16, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
he's extremely good looking at least in this photo
loveisrespect
by portlandgiirl91 on Mar 17, 2010 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions
kobe pulling a tiger
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by HD on Mar 16, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
oh geez
you know when Amundsen puts up 20 on you it’s a bad night for your D
"In Batum's case he must realize he is very likely the first Blazer to successfully fight over a pick all season..."
-Ben
those 20 came really quick too
i remember scanning the game cast and it had him at ilke 8 points late in the game.
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The Suns have no concept of garabage time
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I have friends in Fiji who are in the no communications for days zone
And I dont like what I am hearing
by southern oregon on Mar 16, 2010 9:37 PM PDT reply actions
I dont know Penn,I am a little worried about my friends
by southern oregon on Mar 16, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
It'll be fine
I’m sure nothing bad has happened to them.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
brandon + kobe = bffs
"He and I were talking over All-Star break, and I told him I don’t know of any player outside of myself that has no weaknesses besides him. If you think about it, he can go left and pull up and shoot. He can go right and pull up and shoot. He can fade left shoulder, he can fade right shoulder. He can shoot the long ball. He can finish at the rim. He can shoot free throws. He has no weaknesses in his offensive game; so if that’s something he wants to do, he can easily do it.
"The thing about scoring is you really don’t have to give a [expletive] because a lot of people will criticize you for doing what you do. That’s when you have to be willing to take that criticism, still play and be aggressive. He’s such a nice, nice kid. I think that’s something that he will have to battle through and struggle with."
this is Kobe speaking about BRoy?
I was blinded to that by sick alley-oops and facials
not to mention Greg crotchifyin’ suckas
by Tyler Durrden on Mar 16, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a great article.
We were trying to deal with the fact that it makes us hate Kobe a little less.
#10 & #52
Kobe have feelings?
That’s unpossible.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
what are you guys talking about???
This MAKES ME HATE HIM EVEN MORE!!! HE’S TRYING TO MANIPULATE OUR HATRED OF HIM AND IT’S WORKING!!! IF HE WANTS TO TAKE AWAY MY HATRED FOR HIM, HE’S GOT ANOTHER THING COMING, NAMELY, MORE HATE!!!!
I was blinded to that by sick alley-oops and facials
not to mention Greg crotchifyin’ suckas
by Tyler Durrden on Mar 16, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
i hate kobe
Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
1. n. Something that inspires awe
2. n. Nicolas Batum
by thomasikehara on Mar 16, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Hold on, Blakey's wife analyzes the ruff world that the PTB has become
First steve and trav. Now Tom. Sad. Smh. =(
ya geez all she said was sad.smh
think of all the people on bedge who say that all the time of smaller things
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link?
I was blinded to that by sick alley-oops and facials
not to mention Greg crotchifyin’ suckas
by Tyler Durrden on Mar 16, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
i stop following Kristen for a quite a while…her tweets mainly compose of “I’m in line at starbucks”
fiftytwo
she ki nda looks like a female blake
cloudys friend is much more attractive
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
that should be man law…no rooster blocking…if you don’t got game, don’t ruins someone elses
fiftytwo
Ernie Kent bid farewell to Oregon today
We won’t have Ernie Kent to kick around anymore:
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
what will canzano do now?
it only took him 13 years, but he finally got Ernie fired!
Free prezofdeath
I wanted him gone too
He took the team as far as he could.
He’s going after Chip next, he’ll fail.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
if there is one thing ernie is good at
it’s not rubbing people the wrong way
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by HD on Mar 16, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
That suggestion causes me to question whether
You want the Blazers to be a good team.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I think you are on to something Norsk
1. Penn thinks KP/PA crazy for the kind of contract they are thinking about offering GO
2. In the heat of the argument, Penn says something to the effect of “I told you guys not to offer Hedo that contract” …
3. Penn reminds them of that again on Sunday and said, you should listen to me about GO/Durant draft and Hedo
PA just got sick of the nagging Penn and fired him
fiftytwo
works for me
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
"Did they really expect me to bow down to Jesus?!?" ~Sophia
"At first glance, I saw a fairly unremarkable penis." ~Sophia on Greg Oden
by Philthyanimal on Mar 16, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
i thought kp says he wants to have
disagreements or that banter is a good thing. If he stays true to that then…
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i was looking out for SO
he don’t like pics so i figured if i gotta post a pic might as well make it small
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i really want to know both
ak and sassmaster’s take on the penn predicament
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"everyone knows that tom penn got fired"
“but they seem to forget that paul allen fired him”
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Half of AK's posts started with
What I woud do if I had PA’s money
by southern oregon on Mar 16, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
An AK post would be money right now
too bad he isn’t “nice” enough for BE, smh
Free AK1984.
"The two women were of a certain age and were clearly drunk... The only thing that I can get out of this is Why, since all these things happen to me, they couldn’t be two young girls and pretty? :-)" - Rudy Fernandez
by blazeraddict on Mar 16, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
this is where we need AK
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
Little Mac seals it
Jamelle McMillan with the big play.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
And a steal
You got to be kidding me.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Their number 1 bubble team just got bounced in the opening round of the NIT.
This is not exactly a Disneyland moment.
#10 & #52
annnnnnnnnnnnd this song is eating my brain from the inside out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cazhX_YAZQk
amy winehouse………………..
Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.
by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:05 PM PDT reply actions
i love you
finally someone around here sees something the same way as me
Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.
by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
i think i would rather see gemini open for lupe again
but b.o.b. will be an improvement over the other guy that opened for him( never got his name but he was a sometimes jamaican sounding white guy who was dang near impossible to understand)
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i like b.o.b.’s lyrics over lupe…both have different style but seem influence by some of the early 80s rap/hiphop
fiftytwo
b.o.b does lots of stuff
guitar
piano
drums
produces
raps
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
smh
get started!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fxqbZ6GOIU&feature=fvst
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd
i only know that one b.o.b. song
frankly im not interested in making myself listen to any more b.o.b. songs .. if i hear a good song at a party/on pandora then let it be.. if not oh well
“Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen”
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
by cloudydays on Mar 15, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
brp’s opinion > yours
sorry to break it to ya ds:)
by cloudydays on Mar 16, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i already know this
but we have the same opinion….
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
i already know this
frankly, its that way with everyone around here. i accept being the bottom of the totem pole.
Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.
by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
already stuff i knew
no need to be sorry.
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
i like b.o.b.’s lyrics over lupe
(jaw drops to floor)
now i may be a lupe homer and have only really heard what ds has posted from bob but his lupe’s lyrics are second to none
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yeah i still like lupe over him
but b.o.b is insane
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
i never said lupe’s lyrics sucks…basically 1a and 1b right now…and i prefer how it flows with his sound…lupe doesn’t have that clarity in all his songs for me
fiftytwo
tell me lupe doesnt flow like a beast in this song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPiKKfcjI-4
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
do i need to define what i mean by flow ? what i mean from “flow with his sounds” is melodic transition of rapping with the music
fiftytwo
my mind just blew up
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
well he only has one real name
but he does a bunch of dope side projects like MADVILLAIN!
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that song was my ringtone for the longest time
well before i stop using ringtones
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ya ur way behind cause that's from like
2001, if ya like adult swim he did an album with them and danger mouse called danger doom. it’s dope and has a bunch of cameos from adult swim characters
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well most of his stuff is like 10 or 15
years old so he wasn’t 40 when he was dope
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i know that but
come on lupe is all about his lyrics. im cool with bob being a better overall musician but lupe pwns on lyrics
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open in new window plz
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
see, i’m not big on that one…snapple tea leaves…not that great
but i still love lupe but i guess you are right, i might be bias because of b.o.b.’s approach as a musician
fiftytwo
i like b.o.b
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eny_Bdy9aJ0
he has cool videos
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
yes it is
cool song also
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
mmmmhms
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
you getting your lupe tickets tonight?
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
is that when they go on sale?
i keep checking but the portland show never is available
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and i just realized roseland has him listed for 5/06
but his site has him down for 5/08
hm
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
what is presale?
is that like getting a hold on a ticket but not actually getting one? it better be on 8 (makes more sense day after seattle)
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presale is for like legit fans or something like that, i think you have to be signed up on his site
they use presale to make sure those fans get tickets for sure but i think you just have to put in a password to get access and I googled it and i think the password is ‘lasers’
not sure though. ill get a few obvious passwords a shot and if not then ill just wait until friday.
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
i think it will
i think roseland just messed it up cause his site still says 5/8
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
no biggie…worst debate i ever had was with this girl at a club that was trying to tell me the difference between trance, house, and techno
i basically told her that i’m not into this “house” music…and she goes off and says, “this is not house, this is trance with a bit of techno” for about 5 minutes… and the major artist, style, etc
i didn’t care so i asked her friend to dance
fiftytwo
dude at a party
was trying to argue that there is a good pitbull (the rapper) and a bad pitbull. my rebuttal was that there is only one pitbull and he no bueno
the few, the proud, the blazers
i jus i jus wanna grip your body
loveisrespect
by portlandgiirl91 on Mar 17, 2010 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions
yeahh ;)
i got your bobble head whenever you want it
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 17, 2010 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions
ohhhhhhh ;) so inviting!
loveisrespect
by portlandgiirl91 on Mar 17, 2010 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions
yeahhhhh buddy!
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 17, 2010 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions
rollin like a big shot!
loveisrespect
by portlandgiirl91 on Mar 17, 2010 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Canzano is digging back in time
- A Blazers source tells me that Penn absolutely rubbed owner Paul Allen the wrong way in the war room during the draft that netted Portland Greg Oden. “Paul may never have recovered from that,” source said. But it raises some questions about why Allen would give Penn a raise and promotion so recently. Something more had to have happened for Allen to move so shrewdly to hand Penn the pink slip on Tuesday.- Kevin Pritchard has huge latitude as a GM, and moves around the organization with a wide berth. So how miffed must have Paul Allen been for Pritchard to be unable to save Penn, who is viewed as “KP’s guy” around the building? Curious also that Pritchard isn’t toeing the company line on this one and is throwing it back at Allen.
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I doubt it was a debate about talent
Penn hasn’t been seen as a judge of talent.
I bet it was a use of money and resources thing in that Oden draft.
#52
Canzano is so full of it
I talked with Penn on Sunday at the Rose Garden Arena, and my spider senses were firing pre-game when I saw Allen’s favorite executive Bob Whitsitt Todd Lieweke hanging around the arena. I like Lieweke and think he’s done a good job, but when he showed up I started poking around, figuring there was a good reason he’d made the trip.
I’ve been to three games this year, and Lieweke was a two of them. It’s not like “something is happening” when Lieweke shows up at the Rose Garden.
It's Canzano.
I read that whole article, but I had to take it with a grain of salt.
He would have been absent, so he needed to post something.
I usually don't give him hits either
Sometimes there is a grain of truth in his reports. Sometimes it feels like he just wants to seem important.
You People have corrupted me
I get home after a long day, find out that Tom Penn “rubbed people the wrong way,” and immediately head for the junk drawer to read all of the semi-dirty jokes.
Shift-A on the last three days worth of junk. Did I miss anything exciting?
I try to forget everything in the JD right after reading it.
This comment will self-destruct in 5 seconds.
Zach as previously hinted that, for me, it might not be by choice.
I don’t remember when he said that though.
i can’t believe i never thought of the latter to this point. i’m going to go cry now at my own shame.
by EvilKaramazov on Mar 16, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
You wanted to be corrupted.
We know that he rubbed people the wrong way but sources are unclear whether or not he finished.
#10 & #52
If no one made the joke yet
he rubbed someone side to side….wrong way for sure
Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’
by 92wastheyear on Mar 16, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
i thought he tried to rub them philosophically? this would never work for me, unless you had jedi tricks.
by EvilKaramazov on Mar 16, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
These are not the "jokes" you are looking for
Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’
by 92wastheyear on Mar 16, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Roybot is probably pregnant
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
by tominhawaii on Mar 17, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I miss the SciFi network.
A few of their 8 (!) new reality shows:
“Force of Nature” – Following Feng Shui master Ariel Towne apply the mysterious discipline to various clients, situations or spaces.
“The Dome Experiment” – A dozen volunteers become test subjects in a bio-environment that will test their roles to see if nature or nurture wins out.
Yes, there are 6 others at the link, all just about as good as those two.
Does this strike anyone else as "The Darius Miles letter, round two"?
I hate stuff re Trail Blazers that comes from above Larry Miller. This never ended well.
I'm waiting until tomorrow
I’d like a source besides Canzano and Penn himself to provide any details.
While I wouldn't be surprised, it also doesn't mean the firing wasn't earned.
Any reports besides Canzano that hint at that?
Quick's first article, since updated
It is unknown why Penn was fired, but it is believed to have come from owner Paul Allen and not Pritchard.
And from what I’m hearing from other rank and file in the org or with connections to the org
He was officially fired by Larry Miller as well.
Technically he doesn’t report to KP correct? I know the org chart is a mess there.
I've worked in orgs where a person is protected by someone on high.
But eventually the protector shrugs and says “there’s nothing more I can do for you”. While they’re technically against the firing, they know there is little they can do, and that it may be deserved.
I think it’s early to say KP was against it based on released data. I imagine he’s not thrilled, but that unhappiness could be also pointed at Penn, instead of the org.
In a lot of ways, it reminds me of the Darnell Valentine firing
Our of the blue, extremely vague reasons, strange timing, etc. If I remeber right, Darnell was fired for “culture” reasons.
maybe penn wanted to replace nate with ernie kent
"I told somebody to stop crying," Pendergraph said after the game. "Actually, I told them all to stop crying."
A lot competent lawyers can do what Penn was doing
by southern oregon on Mar 16, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
or someone who can read and has a calculator
"I told somebody to stop crying," Pendergraph said after the game. "Actually, I told them all to stop crying."
Really? Without trying to dramatize this – Penn is not irreplaceable – but have you read the CBA? Not just the Wiki or the FAQ, but the actual document? I have, and I wouldn’t claim to understand 80% of what is in there, much less be able to interpret it in five minutes while another team is on the line asking about a move.
I was kidding but he is not the "only one" who can read the same document
I dont see firing a lawyer as being that big a deal,it might be fun
by southern oregon on Mar 16, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
That's my take too
There are competent lawyers who can learn what Penn was doing, but the number of people who are currently doing it (and doing it well) is limited. Like any area of the law, years on the job and experience make a difference.
wth are we doing?
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Penn was a boss though
:(
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
If Penn laterals over to OKC, I'm going to laugh my butt off
“Durant was my guy the whole way, and Clay Bennett could beat Paul Allen down”
Free AK1984.
"The two women were of a certain age and were clearly drunk... The only thing that I can get out of this is Why, since all these things happen to me, they couldn’t be two young girls and pretty? :-)" - Rudy Fernandez
by blazeraddict on Mar 16, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
If they offer Mr. Cho the old salary of Mr. Penn...
“And forget all praise about Kevin Durant. That is…unless you did not want to re-sign him this summer…”
Whats the smart money bet where Penn winds up?
I dont see him collecting unemployment,the Clips and OKC or he could be usefull to an EC team in the FA feeding frenzy?
by southern oregon on Mar 16, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know. A few lateral moves might be possible as a contract negotiator/cba expert. In terms of general manager positions, maybe the Nets. Reportedly the new ownership is on board with president Thorn, but not with Kiki. Or the Wizards, if he finds a way to void Arenas’ deal.
saw the kobe-roy discussion in the last jd.
roy is a very good post player for a shooting guard. he dominated in college in the post
here you go cloudy
if you want b.o.b, click the links and enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRubXncbuww
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5lVZW_VOJI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo4cZbAUvdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPDZ4KL4_TA
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 11:09 PM PDT reply actions
absolutely nothing wrong with that
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
super duper dope lupe mix i just stumbled on
just might be ok over respiration beat
the few, the proud, the blazers
your links keep not opening in new windows for me
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
im in firefox too
weird
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
it's gotta be soon
i mean he just started the steppin lasers tour so im guessing by the end of the month it should be out .
wiki says mid march too
the few, the proud, the blazers
somebody posted a rocky quote as their facebook status. i so wanna put:
‘i guess what you’re trying to say is: if i can change, then you can change, everybody can change!’
“We can’t change the world unless we change ourselves. "
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
which quote?
you should tell them they’re gonna eat thunder and crap lightning.
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
This is the awesome-est story I've read today
http://www.uc.edu/news/NR.aspx?id=11558
Scientists create artificial photosynthesis
"You can convert the sugars into many different things, including ethanol and other biofuels," Wendell explains. "And it removes carbon dioxide from the air, but maintains current arable land for food production."
"In Batum's case he must realize he is very likely the first Blazer to successfully fight over a pick all season..."
-Ben
Very interesting,I have a cool" have you heard about this?"thing to talk to my Dad about
by southern oregon on Mar 16, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
you dad must be a million years old!
"In Batum's case he must realize he is very likely the first Blazer to successfully fight over a pick all season..."
-Ben
So i read the article again
kobe wants brandon to be more like kobe…
Kobe Bryant says he told Brandon Roy to become more aggressive and ignore any resulting criticism.
yeah you gotta ignore it to some point but you cant just put it off for everything. some criticism is deserved. didnt pau gasol just get made at kobe for taking too many shots?
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by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 16, 2010 11:29 PM PDT reply actions
Brandon needs to pay attention to Kobe on defense, not offense.
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
FTFY
“Brandon needs to pay attention to Kobe on defense”
"In Batum's case he must realize he is very likely the first Blazer to successfully fight over a pick all season..."
-Ben
we all make mistakes
"In Batum's case he must realize he is very likely the first Blazer to successfully fight over a pick all season..."
-Ben
the Penn story was kind of a jolt when I got back and logged on a half hour ago
wow
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
we get it, we get it. You don’t need to brag about Cornell beating them two months after the fact.
…
that is my attempt at humor after a twelve hour day of cramming chem.
by Cablinasian on Mar 16, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
believe me, when Penn beat Cornell this year, that was a jolt also. Cornell got the payback later though.
My first chem final in college, I didn’t study much, thought I was going to ace it, and underachieved with like a B or B-. I was playing FIFA on the playstation instead of studying the night before lol.
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
it was worth it
I remember scoring an insane goal with Liverpool.
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
staying home.
Its for the best.
Dropping a grand+ for travel/lodging/tickets isn’t worth it.
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
I'll make the trip sometime
I have never been to an NBA playoff game.
In fact, the only stadium I’ve watched a playoff game in any of the big 4 US sports is the Oakland Coliseum for A’s-Twins.
That’s gotta change.
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
I saw the Blazers in the early 90's playoff run
And I saw them last year. I couldn’t miss their first playoff games in 5 years.
Had a great time, despite game 1.
I have a window to take my kids to the last LA vs LA game on the 14th
Going to be a last minute call,but it would be fun
by southern oregon on Mar 17, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
My strictly homer call
WV and Cornell in the sweet 16, UCSB is cannon fodder but glad they made it
by southern oregon on Mar 16, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
The reactions across the blog are probably about what you'd expect
As varied as they are.
My favorite is that they held this decision until after people had to buy Season Tickets.
“Oh no! Tom Penn is gone! Cancel! Cancel the tickets now!”
I was just going to say the thing
Yep, KP is clearly on the way out in Portland.
If he was, there would be a riot. Imagine if Nate out-lasted KP.
I really want to know what made Woj hate KP.
AWoj clearly has a beef with him. There’s no doubting it at this point.
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
It's definitely a story I'd like to hear more about
I can’t imagine it’s just about Denver’s GM. It’s like KP froze him out of a story, and he decided to make an example of KP.
I think that was the first time it was visible.
But it might have only been the first time anyone connected the dots.
if he were to make an example out of him over rejecting an article, one scathing article should be enough, right?
i mean we’ve noticed this for over a year now..
It could be almost anything.
People get angry over the dumbest things.
by Timmay! on Mar 17, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec for that
it is the truth
"In Batum's case he must realize he is very likely the first Blazer to successfully fight over a pick all season..."
-Ben
Seems that way
Mort going to Chipotle for the first time seems to be the biggest event in these here parts
Andre Miller makes everyone's peter soft
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
by tominhawaii on Mar 17, 2010 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
trade for chris paul
Rudy+1st round pick
"In Batum's case he must realize he is very likely the first Blazer to successfully fight over a pick all season..."
-Ben
First round pick seems unnecessary
Conditional second round pick. They’ll consider themselves lucky.
they've got a cheap replacement for Paul
they need someone to spread the floor for Collison
"In Batum's case he must realize he is very likely the first Blazer to successfully fight over a pick all season..."
-Ben
Cool. typing it up now.
I like to do Blazer questions with different sets of answers. This one will be interesting.
TRIVIA: During the past decade, tons of Blazers have played more than 10 minutes but scored zero points
Name the Blazers who have accomplished that feat 10 or more times this decade. There are 8 players.
Nope.
I had a feeling the last one would be tough, but honestly I thought nobody would guess Nic, so what did I know?
Damon Stoudamire, 10 times!
Most of which were grouped in a couple short periods, I assume he was either injured or sulking.
He wasn't playing much some games
During the struggles with him being an awful player, and injuries, or whatever.
#52
I had a feeling nobody would guess Damon
Anyone want to guess if Brandon or LMA were even listed at all?
LMA went cold for 4 days in his rookie season
And had two games with 10+ minutes and zero points.
Brandon Roy is not on the list.
I’ll see if I can pop up a similar question but with a different stat.
Three times.
It’s probably because he was only here one season. The person in question had a much longer career here, and was just guessed elsewhere.
Don't see where it was mentioned above-- I know Cab did
Two officials who spent time in last 10 days with Port GM Kevin Pritchard and fired No 2 guy, Tom Penn, spoke of “awkwardness” and “tension”
League sources have been describing unrest in front office for months, centered on Pritchard’s inability to get new contract after Penn did.
Pritchard helped Penn leverage Portland with Minny job, and sources say GM expected he could get new deal too. Ownership declined, emphatically.
Many believed Penn was destined to run team, but clearly something caused momentum to change lately and Penn lost favor. And his job.
Are you kidding me Awoj? Penn was gonna run the team over KP? C’mon.
#52
Canzano wants to grow up to be like awoj
by southern oregon on Mar 17, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
He's to blame for us still being good after losing half the team to injury.
I can’t stand KP’s ability to use draft picks well.
#52
Brian Smith has an update
http://www.columbian.com/weblogs/blazerbanter/2010/mar/17/more-on-penns-unexpected-firing/
Hahahahahaha — I beat Ben to it!
Is there any reason, other than the hint that he annoyed KP during the 2007 draft
To believe there’s any truth to this?
Just wondering if this is serious or a running joke, it’s repeatedly come up.
I can't imagine it's anything talent-centric
As that is not his field of expertise and was never purported to be, and even if Oden was a mistake, everything else KP did isn’t.
Plus we woulda’ heard stuff about a riff between Penn and KP about Oden vs Durant looooong ago. But not stuff that’s more complicated, such as not using assets in a way Penn argues for or whatever.
#52
are you seriously saying KP has never made a mistake?
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
That is PRECISELY what I am saying
KP is an infallible angel sent by the Pope from heaven.
You must think little of me to think that I think I am saying that KP has never made a mistake. Everyone makes mistakes.
We can list the “mistakes”… likely Hedo, and maybe a 2nd rounder or two. Not many mistakes. Nothing that Penn, destined to run the team as we’ve known for so long, can point to and say SEEEE?!?!
#52
instead of ‘stay humble’ above his locker, penn had ’list of players under 21 who have achieved a 25+ PER
I got a new theory
AK1984 = TOM PENN.
And ever since AK was banned from BE, he’s been pestering PA and KP with his trade scenarios?
#52
If only Starvin Marvin didn't tell Dave that AK would Bedge drunk...
…we coulda’ avoided this firing! Penn just needed his release…
#52
he looks totally different in tinychats than in all the other photos
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
im joking, obviously. could that really be it? i mean unless he’s rubbing durant’s stats in kp’s face every day or something…
This "annoyed PA during the draft" stuff
Is it Canzano based? Anybody else talk about it? I’m too lazy to track it down.
I feel like it's those in the know wanting to say "i knew it was coming! Things were tense!"
“Oh so tense!”. Because they ain’t offering anything else besides vague meaningless stuff like that.
#52
Well normally, NBA front offices are filled with Hello Kitty references and lots of cupcakes.
But all that disappeared two weeks ago.
I heard
KP got his weekly tan yesterday, the best one yet he felt, and Penn didn’t say one complimentary word about it.
#52
Not according to Penn's last Facebook update
Plus, sources tell me, that “someone” left a bottle of Lindsay Lohan’s new Spray Tan on KP’s desk… and c’mon Corvid, no serious tanner would EVER use a commercial tanning spray. EVER.
#52
watching sportsnation's tourney buzzer beater bracket
Clemson’s D on the Tate George buzzer beater was a joke.
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
Looks like it!
Manhattan or Hermosa or sumthin’. I like that area, but if ya gotta drive anywhere it can be a pain to get to places.
#52
It was a lot different when i was a kid
But that was a long time ago,things change
by southern oregon on Mar 17, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Great photo.
Doesn’t look that much like Brandon though. Guess I’m not used to seeing him look down his nose at us.
TRIVIA: This question is for Jake (who arrived late for the last one), but everyone else can join in.
Name every Blazer PF in the past decade that played at least 10 minutes in a game and somehow grabbed zero rebounds. They only had to do it once.
There are 7 who qualified. This includes combo PF’s who also played SF or C.
he was a teammate of TJ Ford's at Texas
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
lol
Aldridge
Outlaw
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
Kemp
Sheed
Zbo
Skinner
Ruffin
Dale Davis
Grant
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
what Blazer PFs have we not named?
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
There we go.
Shawn Kemp, yes.
Brian Skinner, yes (three times)
Dale Davis, yes (four times)
Nope to the rest. Four down, three to go!
The original list included SF's, and he's not there at all.
I just manually filtered it down because SF’s dominate the list.
There we go.
You and SO both get credit. Viktor Khryapa did it three times in the 2005-6 season.
One left. You’re all going to kick yourselves.
Nice
Jeff Pendergraph has already found a way to accomplish this twice this season amongst all the fouls!
That’s the missing answer. You guys also guessed all the SF’s who did it, so nice work there.
I take it back.
It was my bad, Jeff wasn’t on the list. I added him by accident.
Sorry guys, my trivia juju was off there.
was supposed to be the next ak47
according to nash.
remember when he (as gm) predicted we’d win 19 games that year?
Monia was incredibly passive
just terrible.
Khryapa showed some promise with us.
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
The Wolverine woulda' been a good role player in the NBA
It’s a shame he had such a horrible time on the Bulls, and wanted to go back to Europe. Can’t blame him!
#52
I do find it curious
How few GOOD Russian players there are. There’s, like, a billion Russians, and I believe basketball is at least a lil’ popular there.
#52
idk about BEdge
but we had a poster on OLive who was quite memorable.
he used to say something like NO VEEKTOR, NO VICTORY.
VK's time as a Blazer and BE's time didn't overlap much, I don't think
At least not while Dave ran things. I came over from his old blog when he started running it.
#52
KNOW VEEKTOR, KNOW VICTORY
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
Sergei Monia was a 3/2
Viktor Khyrapa was a 3/4
Khryapa has gone on to have the better career in Europe and for the Russian Nat’l team between the 2.
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
Ruben and Augmon were both there, but as SF's. Good guesses, though they don't reduce the PF total.
I think Sabonis is officially a center (at least he’s not on the list), Bryant is not in the past decade, and I don’t think Tolliver played 10 minutes total in Portland. :)
i'm reaching here
Ike?
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
He's actually on the list, also as a SF.
Good guess on him, since he’s there. Still one official PF © missing.
One last trivia to get the bad juju out.
Name the current top 10 NBA leaders in three point shooting percentage for the season.
I wasn't sure he'd get guessed.
Jared Dudley is number 6, brothers D-Von and Buh Buh Ray not listed.
Daniel Gibson, #2 at .479
I’ll refresh the list. The rest of the top 10 gets a bit tougher from here.
List refresh!
3-Pt Field Goal Pct
1. Mike Miller-WAS .495
2. Daniel Gibson-CLE .479
3. Anthony Morrow-GSW .455
4. Anthony Parker-CLE .442 (Good one CleBlazer)
5. Paul Pierce-BOS .440
6. Jared Dudley-PHO .440
7. Channing Frye-PHO .433
8. xxxxx .433
9. xxxxx .427
10. Jason Kidd-DAL .424
11. Stephen Curry-GSW .424
12. Mo Williams-CLE .421
13. xxxxx .420
xxxxx .420
15. xxxxx .417
16. Steve Nash-PHO .416
17. xxxxx .415
18. xxxxx .413
19. xxxxx .408
20. xxxxx .405
No to both.
(BTW I just added the top 20 for completeness. Some of those are crazy hard, I only asked for the top 10)
that said, there’s nothing wrong with a good ‘knowing the dimensions of an NBA court’ joke now and then
Teasin' is all fun n' good
Hatin’ a cool guy who gave his all every game and was a good person by all accounts isn’t cool.
#52
I'm sure back then, in a fit of anger
I predicted Sergio would be out of the league in a few years and Jack would still be a solid NBA player, but I don’t wanna be right!
Right now, it looks like it :-(
#52
unfortunately
you’re probably right.
he needs a few seasons of beastin it up in the acb to regain his confidence.
The theories that he came over too early are prolly true
I know Amlmart1 had been saying that for YEARS now.
One thing people overlooked, including me, about the Sergio/D’Antoni pairing, is that D’Antoni has jerked around every other PG he has ever had except for Nash. Every backup Nash had was in and out of the rotation, and they’ve never had a consistent starting PG for the Knicks yet (only been two years, and he hasn’t had a clear starter obviously).
D’Antoni might be tough on his PGs. He also seems to run hot and cold with his emotions. He might be a Young Nelly.
#52
He would have to live to be 100 to win half as many games a Nelly at his present pace
by southern oregon on Mar 17, 2010 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Arron Afflalo, #8
Very nice Jake. That’s it for the top 10!
If you guys want to finish the top 20, I can keep going, I’ll answer below.
CP3
Calderon
Bargnani
Matt Bonner
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
Jose Calderon, #20
Chris Paul, tied for #13
Marcus Thornton, #19
Nope to Bargs, Bonner mentioned above.
Good work Jake.
thornton already got mentioned by cle
credit where credit is due.
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
The players left
Tied for 13 with Paul, a very well known All Star level player
Number 17, a rookie
Number 18, someone who has been mentioned repeatedly in trade ideas on BE.
He's 49-118 on the season.
It’s supposed to be a minimum of 55 made three pointers, so I’m guessing they pro-rate it for partial seasons.
ppl pack the paint against them
cause they don’t got much for shooters, so that leaves a wide open three from time to time. He must be good enough to hit a wide open three im guessing
the few, the proud, the blazers
by HD on Mar 17, 2010 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions
all star level means could be an all star
at some point in there career, it’s not my fault he is on the backswing
the few, the proud, the blazers
by HD on Mar 17, 2010 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I hadn't thought about him! Nope not him.
The player in question has made the following All Star Games:
2006 NBA
2007 NBA
2008 NBA
2009 NBA
2010 NBA
And was also:
2005-06 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
I just cheated
he’s been mentioned by his nickname, by Cloudy.
Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984
I apparently don't pay close enough attention to Billups.
That nickname slipped right by me. I assumed Horry when I hear that nickname.
It's my bad, I didn't know that was his nickname.
Tied for Number 13, Chauncey Billups. Sorry Cloudy.
happy st patty's day!!!!!!!!!!!!!
loveisrespect
by portlandgiirl91 on Mar 17, 2010 1:36 AM PDT reply actions
its not happy
ima get killed by my history final
Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.
by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 17, 2010 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions
good luck mate!
corned beef sounds bomb! yummmmm!
loveisrespect
by portlandgiirl91 on Mar 17, 2010 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Ok people, music fans, this is driving me up the wall
I like this song: South of France, by Harlem. When I first heard it, I swore it was a cover of a Pixies song. I’ve Googled it, and can’t find any mention of it as a Pixies song, or as a cover at all.
But I coulda’ sworn I heard this before.
Has anyone else here heard this song from a while back? Is this a cover? Am I nuts?
#52
I somehow missed this one
This was on NBA.com just under a year ago:
According to Bright Side of the Sun, the backstory:
The Warriors were playing an April Fools joke on one of their broadcasters that was turning 50. They tried to add him to the box score and typed in “DNP – TOO OLD/NO TALENT” but his name wasn’t in the database as a player so somehow it defaulted to Grant Hill.
...
According to Bright Side of the Sun, the backstory:
The Warriors were playing an April Fools joke on one of their broadcasters that was turning 50. They tried to add him to the box score and typed in "DNP – TOO OLD/NO TALENT" but his name wasn’t in the database as a player so somehow it defaulted to Grant Hill.
#52
I don't remember that ever happening
As long as it was a babe worth lying about, it’s okay Cloudster. I’m sure she woulda’ “done it” it asked.
#52
All I know is what I surmised from above
Mean ol’ Phil is hanging it over Cloudy’s head like a Dead Man’s Noose!!!
#52
The backstory I quoted
Was from Timmay’s post that showed the boxscore. Timmay wrote it just now.
#52
Tonight's story has been interesting for the reaction
Some people leaned toward Tom Penn’s side, others to the Blazers.
Some saw conspiracies in the timing, others just felt it was generally weird to let someone go now.
Some thought it was about talent, others not.
Some assumed the Clips story was accurate, others believed it wasn’t.
This story was all over the place. I’m curious what gets released tomorrow.
MY PREDICTION
Penn wanted a larger role, as one who is ambition is prone to want, and the “promotion” was a way to quench his thirst for advancement. There isn’t a future in Portland for him if his goal is to, someday soon, be above KP or be equal with KP, so… yeah.
I dunno why he was fired suddenly. If I am right, perhaps to have time to replaced him for the upcoming offseason.
#52
Not so much in the NBA, unless rumors break about a serious problem related to it.
Which is not the case as far as we know.
Yeah it's the firing thing that's problematic
If they were growing apart, it would have been a simple “It’s time for you to go, please tender your resignation”. Firing an exec is a very unusual activity.
He met with Nate and tried to blackmail him with their sex tape
Nate told KP who told PA who fired TP
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Possible big news coming up for talk show fans
Fox Broadcasting is inching closer to bringing Conan O’Brien back to late night.
Key Fox executives, including Rupert Murdoch, are on board with the plan and would like to finalize a deal in coming weeks so they can make a splash on May 17 when the network unveils its fall lineup. Several significant issues remain and the Fox talks could fall apart
makes sense. he starts in november after a lot of promos during the world series. and a couple months of football promos?
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions
very freaky lol. my friend just woke up and randomly asked if my blanket had beans in it. lol
loveisrespect
by portlandgiirl91 on Mar 17, 2010 2:19 AM PDT reply actions
that was a perfect hehonkers moment for me.
loveisrespect
by portlandgiirl91 on Mar 17, 2010 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions
lol
Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.
by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 17, 2010 2:22 AM PDT up reply actions
that’s a euphemism.
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Today is the worst day ever
First some guy I don’t care about got fired by the Blazers and I thought I grabbed an apple in the dark to take to work and it was a tomato. Now I got a tomato at work and my whole day is ruined.
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
uhhhhh tomatoes have a different feel to em. cmonow
loveisrespect
by portlandgiirl91 on Mar 17, 2010 2:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I just grabbed it and threw it into my backpack. I wasn’t paying attention. Like this guy.
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
The Marriage Ref
Apparently, I set my DVR to record that show and the last one was really funny.
Madonna, Ricky Gervais, and Larry David were the panel.
http://www.nbc.com/the-marriage-ref/video/
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Larry David is awesome
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
i like how Ricky Gervais doesn’t even think this is a good show
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
who knows. she’s inconsequential. i just wait for Larry and Ricky to talk. i think they are both hilarious.
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
The power of Seinfield got her on, I guess
She seemed more normal than I expected. Larry David was really funny.
#52
Why does KP and PA hate Hoops For St. Jude?
Just as trading Blake was a glowing endorsement of Bayless and Miller, it is safe to assume that PA and KP hate sick children.
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know that Andre Miller donates blood often
Then checks the box that says they shouldn’t use it, just to be wasteful
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know that Andre Miller posts as kemicale on Oregonlive?
http://connect.oregonlive.com/user/kemicale/index.html
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know that Andre Miller donates lots of money to the Humane Society?
With the stipulation that all his money go to euthanize animals.
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know that Andre Miller rips tags off of unsold matresses at Sears just for fun?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know that even though Andre Miller goes potty sitting down, that he always leaves the seat up?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know that Andre Miller never puts out new toilet paper when he uses the last of the old roll?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know that in the rare occasion that Andre Miller puts out new toilet paper, that he puts it on the roll backwards?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
by tominhawaii on Mar 17, 2010 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you know Andre Miller would like to be remembered as the "Margaret Cho" of the Blazers?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know that Andre Miller's favorite part of Schindler's List is the girl in the red coat?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know that Angel Salvadore is Andre Miller's favorite X-Men character?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know that Andre Miller cries at the end of "Son Of The Mask" and he watchs it at least once a week?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know Andre Miller's favorite band is Limp Bizkit?
He likes to say My Way is his theme song.
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know Andre Miller refuses to wash his hands after using the restroom?
He likes to call it “spreading his funk”.
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know that Andre Miller wasn't allowed to join NAMBLA because they thought his views were "too extreme"?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
by tominhawaii on Mar 17, 2010 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you know that the first thing Andre Miller says to someone when he calls them is "Who's this?"
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know when Andre Miller was growing up that he wanted to be an IRS auditor?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
by tominhawaii on Mar 17, 2010 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you know that Andre Miller's mentor is Rosie O'Donnell?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
by tominhawaii on Mar 17, 2010 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you know Andre Miller's favorite Belushi is James?
He’s also Miller’s favorite actor.
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know Andre Miller puts his child safety seat in the front seat?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
by tominhawaii on Mar 17, 2010 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you Andre Miller's favorite refs are Violet Plamer and Bennet Salvatore?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Did you know Andre Miller is the lead adviser to Comcast regarding Blazers game broadcasts on other cable and satellite providers?
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
by tominhawaii on Mar 17, 2010 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Im donating blood on April 10th!
Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.
by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 17, 2010 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Last 10 games win/loss record of top 8 teams
East
53 - 27
West
60 - 20
Last 10 games win/loss record of bottom 7 teams
East
15 - 55
West
23 - 47
Last 10 games win/loss record of top 10 teams
East
59 - 41
West
73 - 27
Romance me with that Roy rainbow shot which took flight from way beyond the arc and sailed so high that before it came back down to earth sealing the victory, it kissed the rafters and said "You're mine baby."
The West has more wins from the top 8 teams
than the East has from the top 10 teams.
Romance me with that Roy rainbow shot which took flight from way beyond the arc and sailed so high that before it came back down to earth sealing the victory, it kissed the rafters and said "You're mine baby."
And the East is a bunch of weenies.
Romance me with that Roy rainbow shot which took flight from way beyond the arc and sailed so high that before it came back down to earth sealing the victory, it kissed the rafters and said "You're mine baby."
I might even say they have a veritable plethora of weenies.
Romance me with that Roy rainbow shot which took flight from way beyond the arc and sailed so high that before it came back down to earth sealing the victory, it kissed the rafters and said "You're mine baby."
so i havent slept
and my final is at 2:30
i wanna sleep but i cant.
Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.
by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 17, 2010 7:10 AM PDT reply actions
nyquil doesnt work for me
makes me more awake.
im seriously like tweaking right now. ive been drinking mountain dew for the last 8 hours
Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.
by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 17, 2010 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Theraflu does that too me
I took it once to sleep and an hour later I was pacing around the house.
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
You really need to crash, if only for a few hours.
Set an alarm at all costs, because if you do finally fall asleep you might be out hard.
Romance me with that Roy rainbow shot which took flight from way beyond the arc and sailed so high that before it came back down to earth sealing the victory, it kissed the rafters and said "You're mine baby."
i tried
my body feels so weird right now and i cant go to sleep
Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.
by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 17, 2010 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Good idea
Rubbing one out sometimes relaxes me enough to sleep. He could do that looking at this webpage. NSFW
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Walk around the perimeter of the house 5 times
then do 12…no …11 jumping jacks. Next eat 4 M&Ms plain…not peanut. Then listen to side one of Led Zep 4 ….and wack off left handed…..you do these few things and you will go to sleep in no time
Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’
by 92wastheyear on Mar 17, 2010 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I slept for like 45 minutes
i feel alright now
just gotta make it through my final (which is gonna kick my ass) and im freeeeeee
Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.
by Starvin' Marvin on Mar 17, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Why would he delete it when everybody threw such a big drama fit last time? Nobody wants to be exposed to that much whine. ;)
I am perpendicularly pissed off right now!!!!!!
this was the worst junk ever to z through
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but ....that was already the 2nd time he had deleted a JD
I am afraid he might be evil
Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’
by 92wastheyear on Mar 17, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I would respect him even more if he proved to be evil.
I am perpendicularly pissed off right now!!!!!!
Between him being evil and him being forgetful.
I could definitely see him deleting junk again.
#10 & #52
How many wins did you think we'd get prior to the season starting? And now, is jscotjr close you think?
I guessed we’d have 52 wins, because i figured we’d grow as a team from last season, in which we overachieved a little. I knew we’d have injuries, but if i’d of known we’d have this many i would have predicted that we wouldn’t even make it to the playoffs.
So now, looking at the rest of the schedule, I’m going to say 48 games, losing one game that I don’t expect to lose for the next thirteen.
Washington W
@ Phoenix L
Dallas W
@ New Orleans W
@ Oklahoma City L
New York W
@ Denver L
@ Sacramento W
@ Los Angeles W
Dallas L
@ Los Angeles L@kers L
Oklahoma City W
Golden State W
this seems very reasonable to me.
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
well this adds up to 49
but i fear that one of these that i think will be a W will be an L, perhaps coming home after NO and OCK, the knicks game could be a trap game
i say we win out
Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
1. n. Something that inspires awe
2. n. Nicolas Batum
by thomasikehara on Mar 17, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
that would be awesome. and sorta miraculous
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
how’d you like it?
i thought it was good, not great. kinda different. i wasn’t really sure what the movie was trying to say either.
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
haha…yeah…
maybe i’ll watch it again sometime. i just didn’t see exactly what the parable was supposed to be about.
it sorta reminded me of The Crossing by Cormac McCarthey. a kid kills a coyote but then decides he needs to take the body back to Mexico where it came from.
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought we would get close to 54 again
Which we will obviously not hit.. The silver lining being that due to the strength of the bottom of the west win totals are down all over.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Could this be part of the reason the Blazers have given up some monster leads this season?
"I never scored over 40 in high school and college," Roy said. "Never had the mentality. I always had the mentality that if we’re up eight and I got 30 and I don’t have to score then I won’t score, instead of like, ‘Man, go get 40.’ I never had that mentality of, ‘Oh, go get it.’
I get the paper, so I don't care!
someone should make a new JD for today...
I am clearly not that someone
#10, #52
Something witty will go here soon
I did it two days ago.
You people are all a buncha lazy good for nothings.
Is there a membership fee for joining?
Yes! Yes! In the face!
I did it yesterday
It’s someone else’s turn.
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
by tominhawaii on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I was gonna do one and title it "Calling out the mods"
then I wasn’t going to discuss them in the body
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
by tominhawaii on Mar 17, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you should go the opposite route.
Start one that says something like, “Best places to eat in Hawaii”. And then go into a full-on verbal assault of all BEdge mods from out of nowhere. Use lots of expletives. Then after a small probationary period, you’ll be let back in as a beloved member of the BE community.
Or you’ll be banished forever like AK, one of the two.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
They can't ban me, don't they know who I am?
Ha I kid. No need to bring any more heat my way. And I already have like a 5% chance of banning myself.
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
I just don’t have a good topic, or I’d do it… plus I’ve got door details on the brain, and i doubt anyone else is interested in interlocking thresholds today
#10, #52
Something witty will go here soon
by The Arkitect on Mar 17, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
thing about the JD’s is no one except maybe the first few people in the morning read what it is actually about. so it doesn’t really matter.
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
How about Ninjas
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by tominhawaii on Mar 17, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Obama's entry
http://games.espn.go.com/tcmen/en/entry?entryID=3288143
A bit too much love for the favorites for my taste.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Chalk is the safe pick usually.
1 Seeds have won 14 titles since the current format was adopted. 2 seeds have 4 titles, 3 seeds have 3 titles. Every other seed combined has won 3 times.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
It kind of looks like mine
I got Kansas winning it all
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
by tominhawaii on Mar 17, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
all Hawaiians think alike
Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
1. n. Something that inspires awe
2. n. Nicolas Batum
by thomasikehara on Mar 17, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Why I ought to start a rumor about you and Tom Penn in a sex tape
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
by tominhawaii on Mar 17, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
it’s not a rumor if it’s true
#10, #52
Something witty will go here soon
by The Arkitect on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
i will neither endorse nor deny those claims
Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
1. n. Something that inspires awe
2. n. Nicolas Batum
by thomasikehara on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
as do i. his bracket looked pretty strong i thought.
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you’re gonna see some serious [stuff].
by DrivetheLane on Mar 17, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
everyone's looks strong before it starts
Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
1. n. Something that inspires awe
2. n. Nicolas Batum
by thomasikehara on Mar 17, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
He did poorly last year
Too much chalk.
Picked Cornell though.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Anybody notice what Anthony Tolliver did last night?
Thirty points, 6 boards, 4 steals, 3 assists, a blocked shot on 11-19 shooting, 4-8 from 3 point range! I know Golden State is a “stats team”, but come on, the guy must have more talent than the Blazers (and others) gave him credit for!
The problem is that he's not consistant
He’ll do that one day and nothing the next.
Andre Miller is an Anachronism
Sounds a lot like Martell,
Rudy and Bayless.
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