"Regularized Plus-Minus" at a newish nba stats site
Very interesting new approach to adjusted-plus minus presented at the recent Sloan conference. The link above provides a nice explanation of both "traditional" adjusted-plus minus and his "regularized" version of it. Definitely worth reading if you have the patience for it.
The most interesting result he produced concerning the Blazers is Brandon Roy's defensive rating (not very good).
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PoliSam
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wow, that is a hole lotta werds. Is there a summary somewhere in there?
I get the paper, so I don't care!
A brief summary
He uses out-of-sample fit (also called cross-validation) to determine the following:
-1) how to discount data from previous years
-2) what the cutoff should be for minimum number of minutes
-3) a reasonable constraint on how noisy the data should be
A brief discussion of each issue:
1)There is a debate among adjusted plus-minus people whether or not you should use prior years in coming up with a number. Proponents of adding previous years say, “the more data, the more reliable the estimate.” Opponents say, “we only really care about this year and players change.” There’s no obvious answer to the question theoretically so he tries to estimate the right balance of new and old information by see how well models predict the future based on different discount rates.
2)There is also a debate about what to do with players that play a small number of minutes. Because the data is noisy, these players can have really wacky estimates for their APM, which throws everything off. On the other hand, if you lump all low minute players together, it is possible that the models incorrectly believe Patty Mills = Jeff Pendegraph. Again, he resolves the issue by looking at how well different minute cut-offs affect the fit of the model.
3) This is the trickiest to explain. Essentially, the idea is that the models that estimate APM assume that any estimate for a player or a unit’s APM is possible. Logically speaking, however, we know that even LeBron James should have a true APM of +50. By giving the model some expectations for how variable different units should be, it might produce better results. He uses the same method to determine what these expectations should look like.
Thank you!!
I still have a concern about plus-minus in general, and in all forms. Maybe it is addressed somewhere, I don’t know, but it seems too broad.
Especially on the Blazers, I mean, with all the injuries, the remaining players were asked to play different roles than they usually do. All the substituting was affected, and who each player is matched up against is also affected.
Is this a valid concern? Is anyone addressing it?
I get the paper, so I don't care!
Why couldn't they have used the word "normalized".
That’s all I want to know.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
because, to a stats person, "normalized" refers to scaling something, often to the normal distribution
and he’s doing something else.
I like it that he sticks it to Bynum, of course
Brandon showing up at 105, Joe Johnson at 103, both 100 behind Varejao
for 09-10, he has Bo Outlaw at 242. Quite a legacy
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I wouldn't put too much stock in these numbers...
For instance, look at Sergio’s defensive rating. For that matter, look at Andre and Blake. They’re both porous defenders at best, at yet they rank pretty well on here. And compare Joel’s defensive rating to Oden’s. Joel might be a better defender, but there’s no way the difference is that large.
"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave
Fast Break Trigger Rate
But the fast break trigger rate stat is very interesting. Roy kills breaks. No surprise there. Same with Oden—he always looks for a hand off to the PG.
"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave
Oden has the potential to be a great defender
But Joel played much, much better defense the past two seasons. Oden fouled a ton, didn’t really understand help defense, etc. He was starting to play as well as Joel before getting hurt this season, but there was still a difference.
It is time weighted still
If I’m understanding it right, they reduced the weight of previous years, but didn’t eliminate it. So I think you are both right. Oden THIS YEAR probably wasn’t quite that far behind Joel, but Joel still was better. Oden is a man-beast that looks huge every time he blocks a shot, but he is still learning the game, while Joel was a fundamentally-sound defensive monster.
In any case, nice find PoliSam on this stat site. They are doing some really interesting stuff.




















