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Media Row Report: Blazers 88, Kings 81

It's getting towards the middle of March, the Portland Trail Blazers are waist-deep in a playoff race and it's about time to start ramping up for a final month-long push.  Unfortunately, tonight's mind-numbing 88-81 squeak-by win over the Sacramento Kings looked more like this push than this push.  Playing against a clearly inferior and mostly uninterested opponent, the Blazers seemed determined to mess around and make life as difficult as possible for themselves. They scored just 1 point in the first five minutes of the fourth quarter and allowed an on-different-pages Kings team to come back from a 12 point deficit and briefly tie the game. 

In the game's closing minutes, newly-acquired Marcus Camby saved the Blazers' hide, making a number of nice hustle plays - including multiple blocked shots - to lead a one-man defensive stand.  But let's not get overly carried away praising Camby's 6 point, 8 rebound and 5 block performance.  His own mental lapses were a reason that the game remained competitive longer than it should have been.

Watching Camby outlet pass the basketball tonight was like watching Andrew from Real World DC attempt to pick up women: uncomfortably and unnecessarily fast-paced and doomed to fail.  Just slow down, bro. One step at a time.  Step one: Don't start racing up the floor like the roadrunner for no reason. Step two: Aim your body towards someone wearing the same shirt and shorts combination as you. Step three: make sure your target is one of the smaller players on the court and, importantly, that he is looking in your direction. Step four: Don't throw the ball like you're Nolan Ryan in a Tinactin commercial. Leave some of the mustard in the bottle for the rest of the picnickers. 

Camby's attempted tempo-pushing was likely the result of a coaching staff edict to run against one of the league's weakest defensive teams. Indeed the Blazers racked up 18 fast break points on 7 of 8 shooting, including a number of run out, uncontested layups and dunks.  And of course there's a higher margin for error when the pace picks up, mistakes happen when people rush.  But something as simple as an uncontested outlet pass should never result in 4 turnovers by the same player, even if he is playing in a new system and with new teammates.  That's the result of a lack of communication and a lack of court awareness.   The Blazers guards need to diligently support their new big in this trying time.  Come back further, yell louder and flap those wings. And, please, Camby: Think before you fling.

Even more exasperating than Camby's careless turnovers were Rudy Fernandez's running, rolling, frolicking shot attempts.  I'm calling for an intervention: friends don't let friends teardrop and fail.  Any time you go to the teardrop/finger roll 3 times in 3 minutes and come up empty every time, it's a signal that you should put the tool back in the toolbox, lock the toolbox in your backyard shed, douse your shed in kerosene and then strike a match. In Rudy's case, because of the hair product, it would probably be a good idea to take an extra step backwards before striking the match. Paging the 86 Blazers consultants that attended Sloan on Saturday. Call up the numbers immediately; This is a crisis. Stop this man from destroying himself.

OK, enough already with the wisecracks.  The Blazers won this because of Camby's late-game hustle and because of some balanced scoring that saw 5 guys reach double figures.  Brandon Roy lead the way with 19 points but it took him 16 shots. A number of offensive possessions broke down with the ball in his hands.  LaMarcus Aldridge was arguably worse, tallying 13 points on 15 shots, finishing with just 4 second-half points. Would you trade him for Carl Landry straight up? I wouldn't. But after tonight it feels like a fairer question than it might normally.

Aside from a phenomenal left-hand dunk, Roy once again dragged for most of this game.  During his post-game comments, Nate McMillan seemed to point the finger at Andre Miller's inconsistent energy as a cause for concern (see the very last comment below) but I think it's the uncertainty surrounding Roy and his abilities to create clean looks and get to his spots that has the team dragging along with him.  Roy is the tone setter.  And right now his tone is... wait for it... flat.

Unfortunately, as Roy has noted multiple times, his rhythm and health will only come through patience.  In the meantime, we're stuck watching the occasional soul-sucking and sloppy game.  The Blazers team that showed up tonight would have been run out of the gym by the Golden State Warriors, Thursday's opponent, let alone any of the other Western Conference playoff teams.  

The clock is ticking. Start pushing.

Random Game Notes

  • Here's a link to audio from Tuesday morning's conversation with The Morning Sports Page. Interview starts at the 18 minute mark. Topics: Marcus Camby, Joel Przybilla, Sloan Conference.
  • Brian T. Smith tweets that he "received a top-10 APSE award for column writing. Entry included stories about Andre Miller and team's perseverance through injuries."  Congratulations.
  • Tyreke Evans is the Rookie of the Year. Shut it down. That said, the Blazers did a much better job against Evans than they did earlier in the year, although his statistical lines were similar. Back in December, he went for 19-7-3.  Tonight he went for 18-6-6.  The biggest difference between the two nights was the extra shots Evans needed to get his points (19 field goal attempts tonight compared to just 9 attempts the last time around).  Going bigger against Evans with Nicolas Batum and Martell Webster was really the only option with Roy "conserving so much energy" on defense.  Evans is already at the stage of his career where he can do unstoppable things.  Batum and Webster both worked valiantly to reduce the number of situations in which Evans could become unstoppable.  His shot chart is littered with perimeter misses which is exactly what you want to see.  Force him to shoot over the top of a defender because he turns the corner like Gale effing Sayers.  It's possible that Evans gives Roy a serious run for his All Star money next season.  
  • Great piece by Wendell Maxey on the Kings' defensive approach against Brandon Roy.
  • I asked Brandon Roy whether his hamstring has recovered to the point where he can push off both of his legs equally.  He replied, "There's times I feel like ... I kind of have good days, bad days, good plays, bad plays. Sometimes I'll tweak it and I'll stay off of it for a little bit. It's something I've got to play with and try to deal with it."  Asked if it was affecting his free throw shooting or balance (he struggled again at the line, going 3-7), Roy said, "Nah, I'm just missing today. Yeah, I was just missing those."
  • Bayless: 0 for 4 from the field, 9 minutes. Hmmmmmm.....
  • Travis Diener was activated tonight and Patty Mills has been moved to the inactive list. What a strange year for Patty Mills this has been.
  • Cutting this short tonight because my body clock is all thrown off by the travel. Sorry about that.

Nate McMillan's Post-Game Press Conference

Opening Thoughts

Well, we got the win. Of course we know we can play better and we're going to have to play better than we did down the stretch to win games, our remaining games.

Camby and his play down the stretch

I thought he was huge. We don't win the game tonight if he doesn't make some of the plays he made. He hit a baseline jumpshot, he had two blocks, he got on the floor for a loose ball on the defensive end of the floor which I thought gave us some life. Those were big plays. We got some stops, enough stops, to score some baskets and eventually get control of this game and put it away.

That's what you are looking for from Camby?

Yeah, well we are certainly hoping for that. Again, we've got to have everybody. We've got to have everybody if we're going to get to that level of play that we want to get to, everybody has to play with the same focus, same intensity, same scrappiness. Once you get that as a unit, then we're going to be stronger on the defensive end of the floor. He makes some plays and we need everybody to be focused in on stopping, controlling the ball and if there is a breakdown you have a guy like that who can cover for some breakdowns. But collectively we've got to do a better job.

Slow start at beginning of 4th quarter

We missed shots. I thought Rudy and Martell -- they had a 10-0 run I believe. We were missing some shots. You've got to make shots. From what I can recall they looked like pretty good shots. Rudy missed a layup, a floater, I think Martell had an open look during that time. You've got to put teams away. We've seen this before. Until I look at the film I can't say exactly what happened but I know we missed some open looks. You've got to make those shots.

Batum on Tyreke Evans

I thought he was better tonight guarding a penetrating guard or guy that's penetrating and he made his adjustments. He didn't get too excited about the match-up of him and Evans and he played him solid. I thought he kept him in front. We were a little concerned about him going into the post, he did a good job of getting over that UCLA cut, that high screen, to deny him post position and just making him work to catch the ball. I thought Martell did a pretty nice job of staying square, giving him a cushion and keeping him out of the paint.

Didn't rely on Roy tonight. Is that a positive?

Yeah, when you win. But we're going to need him. And we're going to need LaMarcus and we're going to need all of our guys. We're still in this race. We're going to have to play much better than we did tonight.

Did it seem like the team let up when leading by 9 points late in the game?

I don't know where that's coming from. We've just got to stay aggressive. That's what we are talking about. We've been in this situation, we've had some leads, we've given up some leads, we've had to win it down the stretch and we've given up games. We're playing a 48 minute game, that's what it's about. We should know by now.

Golden State has had your number

It's all about going down and playing basketball. Play defense. Execute offensively and go down there and take the game. They've been able to get the game to their tempo and I think we've gotten caught up in that tempo, turned the ball over, haven't made shots, haven't taken advantage of match-ups. They've been able to get the game at their pace and win those ballgames. We've got to do a better job of controlling the tempo, take advantage of going inside against this group. They play freelance basketball, it's not a lot of plays called. You've got to get down and guard your man because they're all going to come at you.

Do you attribute the late-game flatness to coaching or players or?

Well, coaching, whether it's coaching or players it's not getting through, you know, at times. I think it's both of us. The message got to get through and then we've got to get it done on the floor.

Andre Miller has kind of a laid back attitude. Do you need a more rah-rah type point guard in late-game situations to help provide a boost?

You see it. I don't want to call out our guys. We need to be aggressive, we need that intensity, so sure.

-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter

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McMillan again passing the blame onto someone else for late game collapses. It certainly couldn’t be four years of relying on the ISO and an attitude of the coach to slow it down in the final three minutes to play not to lose.

Always refreshing to see this consistent stand from McMillan.

by TSE on Mar 10, 2010 1:07 AM PST reply actions  

there was nothing wrong with the last 4 minutes

it was the ice cold start of the fourth that lost us our lead. Take a look at the gameflow chart on ESPN.

by jnewhouse on Mar 10, 2010 1:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Nate blames Andre for inconsistent energy and Nate is wrong

Dre comes in and rights the ship. He plays fine. But what can he do, really, when the first play he is in on offense he is sent to the far corner to flatten the D for Roy who does nothing with the ball. That same play a couple plays later, and Roy gets his pocket picked and the Kings are off to the races.

Nate needs to accept responsibility. Now, I don’t want to call him out. I just want to call him out and say I’m not calling him out like a coward would do it.

Andre Miller was solid. Call yourself out, Coach!

by LaoTzu on Mar 10, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I have to agree

When Miller put up 52, Nate did not mention it until asked after the game. Nate pretty much took credit for Dre’s performance by saying he did well because I rested him in the last game.

by thebigoutdoors on Mar 10, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Reply to LaoTzu: agree 100%!!!!! ANDRE GIVES IT HIS ALL. NIGHT IN AND NIGHT OUT.

He is the one who started going to the basket…which got Roy to FINALLY try the same thing. How DARE McMillan call Miller out…and in a pansy fashion no less. Uggghh…If this game was lost it would have had a great deal to do with who the COACH put in for the first 6-7 minutes of the 4th qtr. WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT????
Let’s see how CLOSE a game we can make it? It was the starters who built the lead, the WHOLE SECOND STRING (except LA was in there) who LOST it…come on…tighten the roster!!!!!! If guys need rest do this one or 2 at time. This 2 unit nonsense is idiotic when the season is heading down the stretch.

by Natsthecat on Mar 10, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny part

Is that we were attacking the basket early in the 4th.

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by skywaker9 on Mar 10, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

That's not what he said
Well, coaching, whether it’s coaching or players it’s not getting through, you know, at times. I think it’s both of us. The message got to get through and then we’ve got to get it done on the floor.

Devise Method

Founder of the "Crash Batumcoot" Movement.

by damir on Mar 10, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Andre Miller has kind of a laid back attitude. Do you need a more rah-rah type point guard in late-game situations to help provide a boost?

“You see it. I don’t want to call out our guys. We need to be aggressive, we need that intensity, so sure.”

by LaoTzu on Mar 10, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

My take is he shouldn’t have answered that question.

by atomiccafe on Mar 10, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Meaning he's gotta' say it

But the guys on the floor also gotta DO it.

Brandon Roy - The Savior Of Portland Basketball

by rise_stand_resist on Mar 10, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

oh man... what a Sargeant Tool remark...

I agree. Dre is the the man. His energy and attacking the basket set the aggressive tone in the first half of this game, and the game against Indiana.

by Sheedwasright on Mar 10, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

It wasn't a late game collapse by any means...

it was failure to hit a single shot for the first 5:30 of the 4th quarter. The last part of the 4th we stretched it back out and won by 7.

And regarding ‘Dre, he is excellent at seeing when the team needs a lift due to stagnation of the offense. He’ll start driving to the rim to draw fouls or create easy shots. He is also great at keeping the hot hand involved. The problem at the beginning of the 4th was that no one was hot and we kept trying to rely on Roy and Aldridge to get it going. He recognizes that those two can almost always get a decent look so I think we was deferring to them. The fact that we kept missing mixed with a couple of turnovers by us and offensive rebounds by Sac turned that drought into something longer than it should have been. I don’t think Nate should have answered that question regarding Miller either but he has high expectations for his point guards especially since he was one…

We'll miss you #2 & #25!

by clinchmobb on Mar 10, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

the teardrop

ugh. Maybe he can wait and practice that when (if?) he plays for Spain this summer.

by Section323 on Mar 10, 2010 1:22 AM PST reply actions  

La bamba needs to die this season

It needs work, lots of work. He had a nice layup on the right side of the hoop that Ben is crediting to some sort of terrible shot. Not so, it was a good drive and a good look that rimmed out. I appreciated Rudy’s effort to get to the hoop, only the fancy reverse stayed in for him though…

RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP

by Rudiculous on Mar 10, 2010 1:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Rudy's "bomb" not dance skills need work

Mike Rice’s pronunciation is killing this shot. It’s not “La Bamba” like the oldies hit or dance. It’s “La Bomba” as in dropping a bomb on the competition.

But it definitely needs another off-season and some tape watching of Tony Parker.

All day baby, all day!

by LMA All Day on Mar 10, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

I havent read this anywhere, but I would bet the La Bamba thing comes from his Spanish teammate Juan Carlos Navarro. Navarro’s nickname is in fact “La Bamba”, not sure why. He is pretty well known for having a nasty teardrop to go with his good outside shooting. I am thinking he might be a bad influence on Rudy, he did leave the NBA for Spain after only one season…

RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP

by Rudiculous on Mar 10, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

It was ugly and unnecessary...

It was like Rudy was trying it out just because he could. Sac was pretty long at the time he tried them but they didn’t appear to be in great position to actually block Rudy’s shot. His floater or step back would have better chance of success, I think, although I’d prefer if he’s just draw the foul considering he shoots 88% from the line…

We'll miss you #2 & #25!

by clinchmobb on Mar 10, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

what's Jeff Hornacek doing these days?

the Blazers should hire Jeff as a “teardrop consultant” for Rudy and Rex. Nobody did it better

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by two4larue on Mar 10, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

The teardop is like the hookshot

you have to master it before you start using it in games, because when you miss it looks like you have no idea what you’re doing. If you’re still developing a jump shot you can take it in games, because people are used to seeing crooked jumpers. Rudy has struggled finding his rhythm this season and teardrops seem like one of those things where you have to see the basket well and judge the distance perfectly since there’s less margin for error. You never hear people say “when your shot isn’t falling, try a teardrop.” It’s usually an easy layup or open mid range jumpers.

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by terryisntbald on Mar 10, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

heheheheh...

you definitely googled “pushing car” to get those pictures :)

by flaming_gam on Mar 10, 2010 1:23 AM PST reply actions  

RE: trading Landry for Aldridge

At the begging of the game I was asking in the thread if you would trade Roy + LMA for Tyreke, Landry and Hawes.
I know their salaries dont even begin to match up and just learned that Tyreke might not have the squeaky clean image that the blazers look for (he was driver in a drive by
shooting fled the scene but did cooperate with authorities down the line in the matter)

But just looking at their production the only thing Roy is better than Tyreke at now is shooting percentage, but that will change when evans has a summer to do nothing but shoot. His rookie numbers own brandon’s rookie numbers and he seems better defensively. He is not injury prone like brandon has shown to be (a bit). Has way less miles and which may better coincide with guys like batum, greg oden (hopefully) and bayless. Also he would fit well with bayless and rudy especially if his shot improves (he has the talent, he will just have to work at it.)

So the only areas I can see roy being clearly better than Tyreke (who is a rookie) at are clutchness and 3 point shooting. Tyreke has better averages in blocks, steals, and assists while only scoring 1.6 points less.

Landry is not soft, does not average as many points and rebounds as aldridge but that seems to be only because of his minutes. Since moving to a larger role in sacramento his numbers are comparable or better than aldridge’s this season. Also, he doesnt disappear late in games and has more playoff experience than LMA. The only thing with him is aldridge seems to have more physical tools and a higher ceiling but who knows if that will attain a level beyond what we have seen already.

Spencer hawes is white.

This trade could never happen but what do you guys think?

by tevisthe4th on Mar 10, 2010 1:31 AM PST reply actions  

No.

No.
No.
No.
No.
NO.

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by fajunga on Mar 10, 2010 1:36 AM PST up reply actions  

You're right Spencer Hawes is not white.

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Mar 10, 2010 4:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Tevis

If Evans had to play with the black hole that was Zach Randolph in a slower system would he have the same numbers?

Batumshakalaka!

by We-B-Dunkin on Mar 10, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Tyreke is six years younger than Roy

count’em, six years and he has nearly identical stats – and we certainly think he’ll be developing his jumper over the next few years. And I don’t think Petrie would be interested in an overpaid (IMO) perimeter PF like LMA.

An uneven effort by both teams last night but don’t cry in your beers. It took a great 4th quarter by Dirk to put us away in Dallas, it took a career night by Beaubois. Our kids just haven’t learned to close games out yet. Casspi is getting a few games rest and we’re still a bit thin in our frontcourt depth. All this is coming.

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Mar 10, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I doubt I'll ever understand the motivation ...

… behind wanting to constantly change the guys we have for some other set of guys.

Sure, the thought occured to me of how Evans might look in a Blazer uniform, playing next to Roy. But beyond that, I didn’t start salivatating over getting Tyreke Evans and thinking up fantasy trades. On more than one occasion I was appreciative of how fortunate we are to have LaMarcus Aldridge on the team. He can do things Landry can only dream about.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Mar 10, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't.

Not because I think it is a terrible proposal, but because I like the guys we have.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Mar 11, 2010 7:05 AM PST up reply actions  

the thought occured to me of how Evans might look in a Blazer uniform, playing next to Roy.

Back before the draft we discussed the names (ad infinitum) that KP might “trade up” and try to select. After reading Evans’ scouting report (make him take open shots, he will obligue and miss ‘em) it was pretty clear (to me, at least) that Tyreke was a bad match for Portland/Roy. Sure, he’s an up-and-coming star player who will probably be the RotY, but that doesn’t mean that he would be a good “fit” as a Blazer. If there was no Brandon, then Tyreke would make sense, but the two of them would likely produce less than the sum of their parts, so to speak. Add to the fact that Evans falls low on KP’s “culture meter” and I suspect the Blazers didn’t have him very high on their draft board

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by two4larue on Mar 10, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

My personal view is that I don't think Portland needs to do anything ...

… special with regard to the PG position.

I think Andre Miller has done a pretty good job. He may not feel like he’s a good fit in Nate’s offense, but he’s adjusted fairly well and is doing what was expected from him. I see no reason Andre won’t play well next year as well.

I also still think there is a decent chance that Jerryd Bayless will develop into a sufficient enough PG to play along side Brandon.

After that, Portland still has Mills and Koponen, who, though probably doubtful, might show they are NBA worthy starting PG’s. And then there is the draft. If anyone can uncover a gem in the lower rounds of the draft, it is KP.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Mar 11, 2010 7:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Take a step back here...

You’re not just trading stats and potential here. You talking about trading a teams 2 top scorers and unquestioned leader, not to mention a perennial all-star for a rookie of the year, a solid Landry, and Spencer Hawes…. how does that sound appealing?

Sure, compare Tyreke and Roy all you want, but I’ll take Roy now for a player with Roy potential every day and twice on sundays. Not to mention how would removing Brandon and LMA affect this team, especially one fighting for the last playoff spot?!

Tyreke will likely have a great career, but there’s no way KP trades Brandon for anything less than LBJ.

All day baby, all day!

by LMA All Day on Mar 10, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Im talking about trading a teams top 2 scorers for a teams top 2 scorers

not to mention a player who has all star numbers in his rookie year. I love roy he is awesome but I Tyreke can do the same things he does on offense and as a rookie is getting better defensive numbers than brandon. He is already putting up these same numbers at 5 years younger than brandon. In his rookie season brandon only played 56 or so games. Tyreke looks almost exactly like brandon on offense except for is less likely to be injured due to his low miles and looks to have more potential on defense.

Unfortunately we have seen how removing Brandon affects this team due to his injuries, and every 4th quarter we see the effect of removing LMA from this team as well cause he almost always disappears.

This is more a hypothetical question of which 2 players would you rather have, cause of course we are not going to trade them as a team fighting for the last playoff spot. why? because the trade deadline has passed and the salaries wont be matching up anytime soon if ever.

by tevisthe4th on Mar 10, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

in a heartbeat.

Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984

by jksnake99 on Mar 10, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Aldridge for Landry that is

not Roy for Evans

Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984

by jksnake99 on Mar 10, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Ben, Please

Camby expects to see the team break down court after he fights hard to pull down a DR. But Nate has not drilled that in like the good coaches that constantly beat the
Blazers. Marcus is making quick outlet passes that the Blazers aren’t taking advantage of because they have not yet been found the love for the fast break. They are getting better now that they have another veteran that can show them what quick flip passes can do. They are getting better at getting it down court now that Camby can give the team more blocks and tip outs. Don’t blame Camby for what you consider misguided passes. The receivers are the bigger problem.
And how can anyone blame Miller for lack of intensity. He is more intent on winning than, I think, anyone on the team. He is not just so RAH RAH as you put it. He does not expend energy in that way. He has far too much going on upstairs to want to put on a wig and a skirt and do cartwheels on the hardwood.

by thebigoutdoors on Mar 10, 2010 1:41 AM PST reply actions  

although boy, if he did

there’d be a lot of fanshots with video.

by Section323 on Mar 10, 2010 1:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly what I thought

Blazers need to get with the program and get down the floor. Ridiculous to blame Miller. He’s not the player that lacked intensity. Nate needs to take responsibility whether it’s his fault or not. He’s supposed to be in charge.

by Jabstep on Mar 10, 2010 7:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Slacker?

Man, if you knew Miller’s regimen you would be shamed.

by thebigoutdoors on Mar 10, 2010 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

He’s already admitted to doing nothing in the off season and playing himself into shape. I imagine his regimen has something to do with $%&* hits.

by tominhawaii on Mar 10, 2010 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Millerime in the off season?

Do you think being the man with the most consecutive games played in the NBA has anything to do with being a slacker or being idle over the summer? This man plays through injuries. The last more serious injury was a calf strain that he played through last year on Sixers against the Heat and went 30, 9, and 2 in forty minutes. This man knows what he is doing. You do not know what you are talking about when you call him a slacker. Get a clue. I wish other Blazers had his wisdom of how to stay in the game.

by thebigoutdoors on Mar 10, 2010 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

By my well trained eyes, he only gives half effort in games

So by my math, he’s only playing 41 games a year. He normally misses the playoffs so he probably has less wear and tear on his body than anyone else with as many years in the NBA.

To me, that is his secret to longevity. Slacking and giving half effort has extended his career longer than the average NBA player who goes out and gives 100%.

by tominhawaii on Mar 10, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

That's what is so frustrating about him

He could have been great if he cared, instead he’s a no-time all star who got beat out of the starting point guard spot by Steve Blake.

by tominhawaii on Mar 10, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Funny...I don't see Blake on the roster

Meanwhile despite being hamstrung by a small-minded city and coach, Miller is around #10 in PER for PG

by Theghostofsomeonefamous on Mar 10, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

How very observant of you

He was actually traded 23 days ago. Here’s the link.

Nate and Portland are not small minded, just some of the fans.

Miller is 11th. Just say it, don’t try to make him sound better than he is. He’s in elite company with Nate Robinson and Luke Ridnour.

by tominhawaii on Mar 11, 2010 4:32 AM PST up reply actions  

For the most part I agree tom

And Andre does lack energy at times, with that said he’s been more engaged, and has more will to win then Roy has lately. As the leader of the team, I’ve been very disappointed in Roy lack of enthusiasm, and maturity this season.

by MotoMan045 on Mar 10, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Quarters 1 through half of the 4th = ZzzZzzZzzz..

At least they won. Now I don’t have to listen to Dwight Jaynes tomorrow morning ranting about how much trouble the team is in.

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- John Edgar Wideman

by halo_on on Mar 10, 2010 2:06 AM PST reply actions  

Might not want to allign yourself on this one....Nate's player rotations STUNK IT UP last night.

What is with the “let’s put in the whole second string..oh and LA” to start the 4th qtr. And LEAVE them in till the 11pt lead that the starters had fought back to get….is totally blown. Yeah. That’s highly intelligent coaching. Same thing happened in the game against OKC, only we were up only 1 pt. and Nate put in all of the guys who had not scored AT ALL in the previous 3 quarters. What is going through his mind when he does these things? “oh, I was a bench player so want to make sure the bench players feelings don’t get hurt?”

by Natsthecat on Mar 10, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven't watched last night's game

I DVR’ed it and then had to work over time. My guess was that Nate wanted to give the bench guys an opportunity otherwise their fanboys would complain that Nate is stifling them.

by tominhawaii on Mar 10, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Would love it if Nate would give the bench guys run either one or two at a time. I'm not a fan

of his puting in the entire second unit..except LA was also in there..at the start of the 4th quarter.

by Natsthecat on Mar 11, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

“…I was a bench player so want to make sure the bench players feelings don’t get hurt?"

Reminds me of little league…every kid must play at least an inning

Travis Denier = Timmy Lupus

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by two4larue on Mar 10, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

At the end of the day ....

…. Portland won the game, which is what matters if you are the coach. So while YOU may think McMillan is a poor coach with a lousy offensive strategy and clueless when it comes to rotations and substitution patterns, the fact remains that his team won. On a night when they appeared to lack energy. How many games have you won as a coach?

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by timg56 on Mar 11, 2010 7:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Ben, get some rest

Way too negative. You’ll feel better in the morning.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
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by jscot on Mar 10, 2010 6:02 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

rec

I thought we played ok, sure we can nitpick but I figure we’re not going to put together many “perfect” games and the fact is we aren’t the best team in the league…so a win is a win. Go Blazers!

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 10, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes

What I liked about this game is that it was won by clamping down defensively down the stretch, against a pretty good team. Many people consider that ugly, but it’s something a contender should be able to do.

by Epimenides on Mar 10, 2010 1:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

nothing wrong with Ben's post

Firmly in favor of making a coaching change at the end of the season.
Free AK1984

by jksnake99 on Mar 10, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure every glass half empty fan agrees with you.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Mar 11, 2010 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with Jake

It was funny and snarky, but not much different from any other Ben recap.

by tominhawaii on Mar 11, 2010 7:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't really get the negativity

The team was up most of the game until the KIngs made a run – which NBA teams do. Even bad ones. Then the Blazers slammed the door in their faces. Pretty standard stuff really.

And I feel bad for Miller that he has to play in this situation. After playing in Philly and Denver, he must shake his head at Portland’s small-time attitude. I don’t know what idiot asked that question about rah-rah (sorry if it was you Ben, but that’s a dumb question), and Nate should’ve been smart enough to just say “Pass.”

by Theghostofsomeonefamous on Mar 10, 2010 6:47 AM PST reply actions  

Also how come nobody puts this same question to Brandon Roy??

Isn’t he supposed to be the leader? How come you guys don’t break his balls about not being a rah rah guy? If anyone should be rallying the troops its Brandon followed by Nate.

by Theghostofsomeonefamous on Mar 10, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

That's because Roy, Rudy, Bayless, and Batum are all off limits to criticism from most BEdgers...

you can’t criticize them or the mob comes out and whacks you….

I totally agree with you and rec…

We'll miss you #2 & #25!

by clinchmobb on Mar 10, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I am pretty sure a lot of that post was tongue in cheek...

even though it is true. The defenders of Rudy come out in hordes when you criticize him…go read the post you just linked and you will see…

You should really be responding to this:

Also how come nobody puts this same question to Brandon Roy??

We'll miss you #2 & #25!

by clinchmobb on Mar 10, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

False

But this is true.

The defenders of Rudy Andre come out in hordes when you criticize him

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by fajunga on Mar 10, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

you failed to read the comments in the post in the link atomiccafe provided...

you failed to respond to the real question regarding Roy…come back to me when you got something…

We'll miss you #2 & #25!

by clinchmobb on Mar 11, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I just typed a super long response and accidentally hit cancel

Short version: Roy gets criticized in game threads for not being aggressive, but because of his hammy we aren’t sure if he can. Batum does little things and his minutes are so erratic that I just appreciate him being on the court. I think we’ve accepted what Joel can and can’t do, so when he fumbles a pass we just accept or say the pass should have been better. Greg has played so little that he’s like a rookie.

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by terryisntbald on Mar 10, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Joel gets a pass because he CARES so much and it's obvious. Since his wrist injury

it seems that unless the ball was practically HANDED to him, he had difficulty catching it. I blame the lack of strength conditioning/training on that.

by Natsthecat on Mar 10, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe we confused being unselfish with leading

It’s hard to be a good leader when you’re selfish, so it does make sense to figure the reverse is true unselfish guys are good leaders. An extreme example is Jason Kidd, who on the court everyone wants to play with but is a drama queen in the locker room. I am NOT saying Roy is a problem, so please nobody take it as that. But maybe he doesn’t inspire teammates and get them to elevate them game. Part of Roy may not show leadership is that early in the season he was admittedly confused about exactly what his role was. When Oden was healthy and they were figuring out how to integrate Dre the whole team seemed collectively awkward playing together. Ideally that’s when Roy should have established it was his team and put people in their places, instead it looked like he was letting the pieces come together and then he’d see how he fit in.

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by terryisntbald on Mar 10, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Juwan has been showing leadership

but Howard sat Brandon down and told him that he couldn’t defer to the veterans (like Camby and Miller) The message to #7 was: If you have something to say, say it, and don’t worry about ruffling feathers

That tells me all I need to know. What fans think about who is the team’s leader is irrelevant

Having said that, I do think that Roy is being helped by Andre and Juwan, and that this “kind” of experienced player was requested by Brandon and Nate following the Rocket’s series last April. I also think that Oden and Bayless will take on some leadership responsibilities for the team in seasons to come. Jerryd brings the fire, Greg will bring the beast (with a chip on his shoulder…)

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by two4larue on Mar 10, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Can Howard talk to Brandon about putting as much effort...

into transition d, as he does arguing calls ???

Just curious, since guard d needs to be stepped up for success in the playoffs.

Til the wheels fall off.... Marcus Camby

Go Blazers !!

by FrenchieFan on Mar 10, 2010 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

one step at a time

I wrote a response a few days ago where I talked about how Roy and LMA are below-average defensively and that Bayless, Batum and Oden will have to “carry” them in seasons to come

Then Jason Quick was on the MSP yesterday and said that only Nic and Marcus can be considered above-average defenders on the current roster. Of course Dwight blamed it on “the system” and I tend to agree that if a coach like Thibodeau could motivate Pierce and Allen to defend then maybe he could “light a fire” under Roy/LMA

Still, it takes highly motivated leaders (like Kevin Garnett?) to keep “enforcing” the coaching staff’s continued request for defensive intensity, amongst all of the players in the locker room

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by two4larue on Mar 11, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't pay much attention to Quick or Dwight

Don’t care what toothepaste they use. Dwight is what we have to look forward to when Canzano is old, but I do agree with both on some topics.

I think Camby is priceless, and that LA will learn from him. I’m all for keeping Camby. My issue is guard d all of them, but Rex.
 (the effort is there,imo ).

If I were Nate, it would have given me an anuerysm by now. He tore his acl trying to teach them. I don’t want to put this all on Brandon, but he is the leader, and that big contract came with a price. Lead by example, or kiss the playoffs good bye.

Til the wheels fall off.... Marcus Camby

Go Blazers !!

by FrenchieFan on Mar 11, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

not every superstar is an all-world defender

Earvin Johnson comes to mind. Riley would basically play Magic against the other team’s weakest offensive player (Caldwell Jones, when facing Portland in the late ’80s, etc) and use a (sagging) team defense to “hide” his star player.

As much as we’d like to see Brandon and LMA improve their “defensive intensity” (and it could happen in the future, with a new coaching staff or perhaps through peer pressure from their teammates) the more likely scenario is that Roy/LMA will remain in the starting lineup as offensive “go-to” guys and Bayless/Batum/Oden will be the core of the team’s future defense

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by two4larue on Mar 11, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't agree with this.

One can criticize any player they want.

They should just be sue it is intelligent, well reasoned criticism that can be supported and not the usual, off the cuff, neo-expert venting we see so often.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Mar 10, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I was being a little snarky...but truthful...

One CAN criticize any player they want. I do it all the time and I can provide facts, stats, etc. if and when they are warranted. I encourage it in others. However, the problem I am pointing out is the usual, off the cuff, neo-expert defense of said player by hordes of fans with nothing backing them up. A perfect example was the recent Escape Goat fanshot regarding Rudy. While I think it was a little sarcastic, the author was pointing out how certain players are treated differently by fans than other players when it comes to criticism. Put on the pedestal, if you will. And I just don’t agree with it.

The real debate of this thread is about:

Also how come nobody puts this same question to Brandon Roy??

and I’m still waiting for the answer…

We'll miss you #2 & #25!

by clinchmobb on Mar 11, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

jeezzz louise ben,

they won the game!! cummon now… lol

I laughed alot though.

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by faith on Mar 10, 2010 7:30 AM PST reply actions  

Right after a Blazer run

there were a couple of turnovers that were simply casualties of playing a faster paced game. But Nate immediately called a timeout as if the sky was falling. After that, the Blazers became subdued and lackluster.

by Jabstep on Mar 10, 2010 7:39 AM PST reply actions  

im pretty sure

that any coach would have called a timeout after those turnovers. Westphal called one when the score was 10-2, after the Kings turned it over 2 or 3 times early in the game. It’s what a coach is supposed to do.

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 10, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Westphal also called a full timeout

one possession after Nate had just called a timeout…what was up with that? Didn’t Paul have time to talk about the King’s next offensive play during the previous full timeout? Do the Sacto players really have that short of an attention span?

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by two4larue on Mar 10, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

PER, Sloan Analytics, blah, blah, blah

Look, points per game are like RBIs in baseball, if you get enough chances your going to get a lot of them. PER doesn’t tell you a thing because a player’s PER is dependent on the offensive system he plays in (and the defensive schemes he encounters, i.e. the Denver quick traps of Roy and Aldridge)— and there is no analysis I know of that takes that into account. (Yeah, Yeah. You’re going to say PER says something about the physical talent of a player. But at the NBA level you already know what that talent is, that’s why the player is in the NBA).

Face it the coaching staff has run out of ideas. That’s why Miller’s argument erupted with McMillan. I can see them now. McMillan says stick with the offense. Miller says they’re waiting for me when I get to the spot. McMillan stubbornly says stick with the system. Miller says, I’m a professional, I know what I’m doing and I’m not driving into a brick wall just because you’re telling me to. Miller continues by telling McMillan that when he’s on the floor he decides what’s going to happen based on his skill and experience because that’s what he get’s paid for.

The blazers need to miss the post season so that they (the players) see that a syncophantic adherence to an offensive scheme will not win them anything lasting.

Coaching is necessary, but good coaching creates a system that allows for both disciplined execution and spontaneous adjustment to conditions on the court.

by 7677maniac on Mar 10, 2010 8:36 AM PST reply actions  

Claiming that PER is "meaningless" makes no sense to me.

PER isn’t everything, but it isn’t nothing, either.

It is a nice single stat that looks at overall production per minute. It is undoubtedly offensively oriented and I would argue that it has less utility in terms of evaluating players who play different positions than it does for comparing players who play the same position, but it is very useful.

Look at the list of top players at any position and you will see the top players in the league. If PER were a garbage stat, how would it so consistently identify the best players?

When you are trying to evaluate the potential of young players like Oden, Batum, Bayless, etc. you need some way to compare them to other players who play more minutes. PER may not be perfect, but it seems like the best per minute stat available.

Anyone care to discuss this?

by upper left corner on Mar 10, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Any individual statistic

that is not accompanied by a spatial analysis about what goes on the floor is going to be tautological, only capable of affirming what you claim about a player.

by 7677maniac on Mar 10, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

What he said.

PER doesn’t even qualify based on the definition of statistical analysis. It’s a pseudo-stat at best since it fails to eliminate numerous independent variables that affect game performance of a player. Even a first year statistics student would tell you that PER violates basic tenets of statistical analysis and cannot be relied upon as a basis to prove a conjecture.

Like PER, points per game also consistently identify the best players in the league. Yet, most fans don’t think PPG as end-all in terms of player performance. Like PPG or FG%, PER shouldn’t be used in vacuum to comparer player performance but rather used in conjunction with multitude of other information.

"I think he’s been doing some good things. I think he’s been doing some good things. He’s had to play a lot of minutes lately with Blake being out. I think he’s been doing some good things." -Nate McMillan

by xedubx on Mar 10, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Individual stats are less influenced by "independent variables" than stuff like "adjusted +/-"

Clearly PER does a much better job of looking at overall production than Points per Game.

PER rankings have limitations, but it seems to me that looking at PER combined with TS% and a few other individual stat categories does create a fairly decent picture.

Adjusted +/- is notoriously fickle and almost useless for comparing young players who play limited minutes because the sample size is to small.

Stats like Win Shares aren’t adjusted for PT and are also nearly useless.

I asked if you had anything better than PER, your replies didn’t really address my question.

by upper left corner on Mar 10, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

My point is that there is no magic bullet.

There is no “one stat” that is better or worse in comparing player performance and each measure that is in use as of today is not to be used as a standalone. If anything, the visual test is still the best measure in terms of player’s effect on a basketball court due to the nature of the game and how much of it depends on the interaction between teammates and opponents. It’s not like baseball where lot of those interactions and variables are eliminated, hence why advanced stats for baseball are much better indicators.

Only approach that really makes sense is a balanced score card approach, and PER would be one of the #’s along with TS%, adjusted +/- as well as others, and combine it with visual evidence. Relying on a single stat to gauge and compare player production is faulty at best and foolish at worst, due to the level of interaction that happens on the court cannot be normalized with the current tools at disposal.

"I think he’s been doing some good things. I think he’s been doing some good things. He’s had to play a lot of minutes lately with Blake being out. I think he’s been doing some good things." -Nate McMillan

by xedubx on Mar 10, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Even more exasperating than Camby’s careless turnovers were Rudy Fernandez’s running, rolling, frolicking shot attempts. I’m calling for an intervention: friends don’t let friends teardrop and fail.

I’m glad to see Ben was paying attention in the game thread. Why is my fist sore today?

Still on the Rex bandwagon.

by dan_the_man on Mar 10, 2010 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

blah

when in doubt rag on Andre Miller….

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by debra31098 on Mar 10, 2010 8:59 AM PST reply actions  

“The team was up most of the game until the KIngs made a run – which NBA teams do. Even bad ones.”

Excellent point. Take a look at the NBA scores lately. You see the power teams of the NBA beating the dregs of the NBA by 3-8 points, not 20-30 points. I don’t know why but that’s what’s been happening. Must be that all teams are having a hard time keeping up their intensity all game long.

by lsjogren on Mar 10, 2010 9:01 AM PST reply actions  

4th quarter

My concern is going 6 minutes w/out scoring in the 4th. It’s amazing the Blazers won. In too many games this year, Blazers have lost the game by going ice cold. The team needs a way to grind out points. Pound it in; draw a foul; whatever. This can’t be allowed to happen.

by Tim Tim on Mar 10, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

he refs need to cooperate
Pound it in; draw a foul; whatever

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by 92wastheyear on Mar 10, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

yep

there was at least one play where LMA tried his left spin move towards the basket that will usually result in a foul call, but the refs swallowed the whistle and McMillian was about as animated as Nate gets on the sidelines.

Miller was also working on Udrih down low, but ‘Dre wasn’t getting the same calls against Beno in the 2nd half that he was getting before halftime

So it wasn’t like the Blazer players weren’t trying to draw fouls…but the refs were making Portland “earn” the win, I guess

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by two4larue on Mar 10, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Like maybe a guy like Greg Oden?

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Mar 10, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Its the NBA

everybody is good and can have good nights. Its just that the better teams have those good nights more often. Sac-Town just beat Houston the other night. Toronto almost beat the Lakers if it wasnt for the Mamba. NJ just beat Boston the other night too. It happens.

And from a talent level, Sacramento really isnt that bad. Reke is awesome, Landry is a stud, Hawes and Thompson are serviceable, and their bench is so-so.

Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson

by Benson on Mar 10, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

"Andre Miller has kind of a laid back attitude. Do you need a more rah-rah type point guard in late-game situations to help provide a boost?"

You see it. I don’t want to call out our guys. We need to be aggressive, we need that intensity, so sure.

Gaaaahh Nate.
Now we need some media folks to ask the players things like: “Nate McMillan has kind of a conservative coaching style. Do you need a coach with more flexible and intelligent game-planning to get to the next level?”

Then apparently they could agree without actually calling him out, brilliant.

by dulcamara on Mar 10, 2010 10:01 AM PST reply actions  

I can see Dwight Jaynes running with your idea.

Still, the Nate blame game is tiresome at this point. While I think Nate is doing a good job overall this season, I am rather sick of his ways of passing blames onto anyone besides himself.

"I think he’s been doing some good things. I think he’s been doing some good things. He’s had to play a lot of minutes lately with Blake being out. I think he’s been doing some good things." -Nate McMillan

by xedubx on Mar 10, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Ernie Kent

No matter what went wrong, the “blame” is shifted elsewhere

I’m not saying Nate = Ernie, but the parallels are too obvious to gloss over

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by two4larue on Mar 10, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't see that coming.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Mar 10, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It is pretty hard to believe

Nate has never said anything nice about Miller and who listens to the radio these days?

by tominhawaii on Mar 10, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It's true, Tom.

I heard the interview. Nate said:

1. Miller is a pro.

2. Miller is relied on to run the offense.

3. The offense runs smoothly when Miller is out there directing traffic.

Who listens to the radio? The 5 million Trail Blazers’ fans that are getting hosed by Comcast.

by Sean M on Mar 10, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Brian T. Smith tweets that he "received a top-10 APSE award for column writing.

What does APSE stand for…“average paragraph/sentence entry”?

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by two4larue on Mar 10, 2010 10:56 AM PST reply actions  

you haven't heard of it

so you have to belittle it?

AP = Associated Press, you might have heard of this
SE = Sports Editors

Congrats to Mr. Smith

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 10, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

it was...a joke

so many people have mentioned Smith’s one-sentence paragraphs that I couldn’t resist

I actually prefer Brian to the Oregonian’s writers, except for the time when he cracked back on bloggers

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by two4larue on Mar 10, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

ahh

I didn’t catch the joke…my bad. And knowing Canzano won makes me rethink my entire position on the matter.

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 10, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Patty Mills has been moved to the inactive list. What a strange year for Patty Mills this has been.

Ben, can you explain why Mills isn’t in Idaho…yet?

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by two4larue on Mar 10, 2010 10:59 AM PST reply actions  

there's a limit

to the number of assignments/call-ups a player can make to the D-League in a single season. I believe it’s 3, but I’m not an expert on exactly how it works. But I’m guessing if they were to send him down again then they might not be able to bring him back this season

by Billy Hoyle on Mar 10, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

whats strange

About a late 2nd round pick getting nbdl time and being on the inactive list anyway

"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks

by DucRider on Mar 10, 2010 4:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not surprised that Deiner is active and Mills isn't

but there was a lot of speculation that Patty would be playing for the Stampeders again this week, and so far he’s still in PDX. Billy Hoyle may have hit on the reason, but I’d like Ben or someone to broach this subject with KP or one of his assistants, if possible.

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by two4larue on Mar 10, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

once Mills plays in his next game, his contract will be guaranteed for next season. Ergo, Diener is active.

#52

by Cablinasian on Mar 10, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

also, Mills can only be sent to the D-League once more this season. They may simply be waiting for the right moment.

#52

by Cablinasian on Mar 10, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Rice and Mike Barrett love Rudy's Tear Drop Bricks

Not only can you count on Rudy’s Tear drop missing, you can also count on Rice and Barrett saying things like, “That shot usually goes in. He works on that move all the time. He practices that a lot.”

What are they talking about? I don’t think I’ve EVER seen it go in.

by Sheedwasright on Mar 10, 2010 11:03 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

A few weeks ago Rudy had a couple pretty ones fall in a game

And then there was a blog entry or article interviewing him about it, apparently it all really resonated with Mike & Mike.

by dulcamara on Mar 10, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Tyreke Evans is scary.

He reminds mine of a mini LeBron James. Great NBA Body, strong as heck, quick as heck, and knows how to get into the lane. Much like Lebron in his early career, has trouble with his mid-range and deep ball.

If he puts in time with his jumper, he’ll be a huuuuge threat in this league for many years to come.

"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."

by Arby on Mar 10, 2010 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

reminds me of Roy

In the fact both couldn’t/cant shoot a lick when they got in the league. Roy’s jump shot has progressed greatly, still TBA on Evans.

Lover of everything Batum.
#88

by RyanRTE on Mar 10, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I strongly beg to differ.

Brandon has always had a solid mid-range game.

http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Brandon%20Roy

check out his progress on his 16-23 footer. It’s been very consistent each year. His 10-15 footer has been volatile, with a notably poor year in 2008, but was strong his rookie year as well.

I’m not quite sure why you think he “couldn’t shoot a lick” when he came into the NBA. Roy is and has been renowned for his mid-range capabilities since he came into the league.

"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."

by Arby on Mar 10, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

you can tell he's good

but he relies oddly much on his “turn around” move in the lane. He did it totally awesomely in the first quarter. Then after that, he made his move and then ran into a bunch of defenders and didn’t really have any other plan.

by Section323 on Mar 10, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

What a game to waste a good seat on...

Had a nice down low view for that stinker of a game… Ben, nice post, I LOL’d a couple times. But man, lighten up…

Re: Nate throwing Dre under the bus again with his “you see it” comment… Yeah Nate, we see it alright… Take out Dre and our lead shrinks. Put him in and it grows. Take himn out and your pitiful offense stagnates.. Put him in and we get movement,. drives to the lane, foul shots, and fast break passes. Dre is clearly the problem.

Eighteen fast break points last night, I thought was one of the big keys to victory. And Ben, I don’t care how many turnovers Camby makes on the outlet, that pass has to be made! (OK, I do care, but I agree with other posters that say inferior coaching and the receivers not practicing that catch are the problem more than that outlet. And he did win the game with that clutch dive on the floor timeout.

Rudy was entertaining even if not on. I can’t believe nobody mentioned what was inches away from being a SportsCenter #1 on the month plays… Rudy is moving under the hoop, gets a FBP from BRoy as time is running out… Rudy is about 5 feet off the ground, moving away from the basket, and catches the FBP and with one motion two-hands it over his head at the rim, just barely missing as time ran out… So close to awesome…

Batum played excellent D on Tyreke. Man, that dude is wide for a guard. Love to have him on any team.

My son made a sign, and we got on the big screen! First time, kinda fun… I guess those expensive seats do have some perks over my usual 320 ones… but the actual view of the game from up there is superior to the end zone…

Good game not to lose… But we need to play with more passion if we’re going to win either of the next two…

by Visionary2 on Mar 10, 2010 5:07 PM PST reply actions  

Great comments! I was at the game also and agree!!! Andre is THE MAN!!!!! Nate McMillan is a complete

jerk for saying that. What a stupid aksed statement. Andre WAS the one to drive to the hoop!! He is the one who got the ball moving. He is the one who helped build the lead to watch it go to nothing until he came back. And he is there COMPETING WITH ALL OF HIS ENERGY night in and night out. Never misses a game. What IS IT WITH NATE…ugggh….
And Marcus Camby and Nic…all great efforts, great game.
Brandon was sooooo lacking in energy it was palpable. The free throw thing is really starting to get on my nerves. Is he takine lessons from Dwight Howard?

by Natsthecat on Mar 10, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks Nat.... BRoy.... ugly, ugyly game...

I specifically didn’t comment on Broy’s game, using the time-honored principle if you can’t say anything nice…But since you brought him up…

Brandon’s D was ATROCIOUS last night… I mean REALLY bad, as in WALKING most of the time through the lane to try and pick up his man. ZERO effort displayed.. I understand resting on D so you can concentrate on O, but he is taking this to new levels these days…

I’m really disappointed in BRoy this year… From not showing any positive leadership capabilities (throwing Dre under the bus, to saying the team “feeds off me”, and “need me to do well”., and “I need the ball in my hands”) to really not playing very well at all: unforced turnovers (I swear he dribbles the ball out of bounds, with nobody near him, once a game these days); slowing down fast breaks, and demanding the ball even when he’s cold, and the 3rd or 4th best option out there… I hope it’s due to injury, because he’s NOT playing like a max player and team leader at all so far this year…

by Visionary2 on Mar 10, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree. No defense. But I think he hasn't ever been a great defender. It is more the general

overall “affect” he seems to have. I wish whatever is bugging him would just go away and that he would step up and be a true leader. If he’s not able to play well because of his hammy..fine, but convey a positive/competitive LEADER’S spirit. Stop with the whiney half hearted efforts.
Also I want him to practice his free throw shooting. Big time.

by Natsthecat on Mar 11, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The above was intended only for the Hawaiian

My apologies. I don’t know how I managed to get this moved down here.

by thebigoutdoors on Mar 11, 2010 9:23 AM PST reply actions  

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