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Game 63 Recap: Blazers 103, Grizzlies 93

Long Story Short:  After a horrific first half in which the Blazers let the Grizzlies do anything they wanted Portland shut down the middle, the boards, and the Grizz running game, staging a strong second-half comeback and hanging on through a chaotic final few minutes to preserve the victory and a 4-1 road trip.

The Game

How bad was the first half of this game for the Blazers?  It was so sloppy the Manwich people called and wanted to use Portland's likenesses on their labels.  It was so listless that the Serta sheep are filing a lawsuit for copyright infringement.  Star Trek movies 5 and 8-12 called and chastised the Blazers for providing such bad entertainment.  It was ugly and unfunny enough to make Carrot Top shake in his boots.

Basically the Blazers put on a clinic on how to lose to the Grizzlies.  They turned the ball over repeatedly in the first quarter, letting Memphis run out.  They gave up easy outlet passes off of missed jumpers and failed to shadow Memphis players who cheated out on the break, leading to more easy buckets.  They gave up offensive rebounds galore.  They single-covered Zach Randolph and yet still missed Memphis' jump shooters.  Both starting guards for the Blazers were absent for long stretches of the half, looking more like zombies than anything.  Attempted plays finished in contested shots or more turnovers.  It was putrid.  Had it not been for the European Union providing some timely three-pointers plus Bayless, Cunningham, Aldridge, and eventually Miller scoring off of drives to key several mini-runs Portland would have had nothing at all.  The Blazers trailed by a dozen at the half and my headline for this recap was already written:  "Wake up, Blazers!"  There was absolutely no indication that the Blazers realized they were playing the Grizzlies, a team that needs to score in specific ways in order to win...ways that the Blazers were granting them freely.  There was even less (than absolutely no) indication that the Blazers understood that this game had playoff implications for both teams.

Fortunately somebody must have cribbed my headline for the halftime locker-room speech because Portland came out reformed in the third period.  The main catalyst was Andre Miller, who started poking away steals instead of giving them up.  He also drove.  He also posted up the smaller Mike Conley, first scoring and then drawing double teams (sometimes more) and passing to open men.  Brandon Roy also came alive, snaking his way into the lane and finishing again and again.  Like Miller he created pressure even when he didn't finish.  The beneficiary of the sudden uptick in guard offense was Nicolas Batum, who always looked ready to receive the ball for the sideline jumper or basket-ward cut.  On the other end the Blazers finally figured out that if you took away the three favorite ways Memphis likes to dominate the game they've got nothing.  Without the turnovers and with fewer missed perimeter shots leading to long rebounds the Blazers contained the Memphis break.  They still let a few layups leak through but not nearly as many.  More importantly they packed multiple players into the lane defensively.  No matter who was manning the post defense--Camby, Howard, and Aldridge all took turns--they looked far more effective with 2 or 3 friends in there too.  Zach Randolph's points dried up.  Unopposed drives to the rim slowed.  Memphis offensive rebounds evaporated.  Now the Grizzlies were depending on made threes and mini-runs while the Blazers scored consistently and dependably.  Memphis scored only 21 in the quarter.  The running, jumping, stealing, dealing (and oh-so-appealing) Blazers scored 41, exactly the amount they totaled in the first two periods combined.  Pasting a +20 on the Grizz defense left Portland up 8 at the end of three.

Of course you know it couldn't be easy in the fourth.  That's just not the Portland way this year.  And to be fair, the Blazer bigs had been stretched pretty far at that point, especially since they had run all night, had to watch the boards constantly, and were responsible for taking the heart out of the Memphis attack.  Juwan Howard had trouble scoring against quicker Memphis players.  LaMarcus Aldridge picked up his 5th foul halfway through the period.  Marcus Camby played well as his replacement but was getting run ragged.  The stress in the middle occupied the attention of all the Blazer defenders, gradually sapping their energy and will as the quarter progressed.  (Don't forget we're at the end of a 5-game road trip too.)  Portland settled into the Brandon Roy iso offense.  It gave everybody except Brandon a break but Roy wasn't converting and wasn't getting whistles.  Meanwhile the Grizzlies, sensing a chance to pull this game out, redoubled their efforts.  They started getting quicker.  Zach started scoring again and drawing fouls to boot.  Gasol rebounded.  Mayo and Gay stretched the defense with jumpers when they could.  All of this didn't amount to as many points as it did anxious  moments for the road team.  But Memphis chipped away at the lead bit by bit until two Randolph free throws brought them within 2 with 3:00 left.  Then it was Roy time for the Blazers.  He opened up with a nifty drive for a layup.  Then Zach returned the favor and converted an and-one, cutting the lead to 1.  Roy drove again, got disrupted, but tipped the loose ball to a prescient Nicolas Batum who had started to drive down the baseline when he saw Roy in trouble.  Nic converted the layup as stopping Roy's drive had taken the interior defenders out of the picture, then hit the free throw they gave him trying to get back in said picture.  The next time down the court Roy wormed his way in close again, missed the jumper, but again he had drawn enough defenders to leave Camby a chance at the tip, which he converted.  On the other end O.J. Mayo missed a long jumper then missed 1 of 2 free throws.  Nicolas Batum made a steal on one possession and blocked a shot on another, even as the Blazers were turning the ball right back to the Grizzlies again.  The frenzied finish involved copious running, reaching, and even a little diving but few actual points scored until a couple of Roy free throws and a last-second obligatory three from Batum pushed the margin back to 10 and the Blazers came out with the win.

The Blazers and Grizzlies shot similar percentages overall and made exactly the same number of free throws, though the Grizz had more attempts.  (The Blazers, as it turned out, finished a perfect 19-19 from the line.)  Offensive rebounds also ended close to even.  The Blazers shot much better than Memphis from the three-point arc, doubling the number of shots made from range (8 to 4).  But the biggest numbers of the evening all come from the ancillary area of the boxscore and are only meaningful if you understand how bad that first half was.  After turning over nearly anything orange that touched their hands in the first half Portland finished with only 13 T.O.'s to 21 for Memphis, leading to a 30-14 points off turnovers advantage.  After letting the Grizzlies run out during the first half the Blazers overtook them, finishing ahead in fast break points 23-17.  After getting obliterated in the paint early the Blazers closed the gap to a 42-50 deficit...near miraculous given the initial trend.  Looking for all the world like they would give away this game while remaining clueless about its implications the Blazers instead took it, shook it, reversed it, and wrestled it away from the Grizzlies.  They now have a bit more breathing room in a playoff race where they might end up needing exactly that.

Individual Observations

As mentioned above, credit Andre Miller for the initial turn-around.  He was the first Blazer to impose his will on this game and he did it on both ends of the court.  He pretty much bullied the smaller Conley into submission and created all kinds of problems against a team that has trouble compensating for any difficulty.  12 points, 11 assists, 5 rebounds.

Brandon Roy awoke alongside Miller.  If they weren't exactly feeding each other at least they were feeding off of each other, or rather off of the disruptions each caused.  After getting spanked on the defensive end in the first half Roy looked like a serious playoff guard on offense, exactly complete revenge and then some against any defender who came against him.  He ended up with a game-high 25 points plus 5 assists, 7 rebounds, and 3 steals.

Some guys are big, two-handed swords or battle axes, smashing opponents when they get swinging but swinging fairly seldom.  Nicolas Batum is like a fencing sword.  Hit!  Hit-hit-hit!  Dodge...hit!  No single one of his buckets seems as devastating as, say, a Rudy three or Brandon's and-one drives.  But you look up and you're all full of holes from about 20 things he did to you in what seemed like the blink of an eye.  Tonight he went 7-11 overall, 4-7 from distance, grabbed a steal late, blocked a layup late (both of which came on plays that could have given Memphis hope), and gave the Blazers 21 points.  Zach Randolph led the Grizzlies with 22, so that's not bad.

LaMarcus Aldridge showed up early as usual and had some nice moments throughout the game, though foul trouble limited him somewhat in the fourth quarter.  He had 4 steals but only 2 rebounds to go with his 13 points on 6-11 shooting.

Marcus Camby started the game but had trouble containing Gasol.  Eventually the Blazers just decided to go with a scorer, Aldridge, in the middle.  But Camby came back in the second half and caused some damage including 7 rebounds, some good interior defense, and that sweet tip off of the Roy miss highlighted in the game review.

Juwan Howard got pressed into 23 minutes tonight as nobody could stop the Grizz interior attack and he filled in with some chucks and fouls.  He ended up with 5 rebounds, 5 fouls, and a nice late jumper off of an inbounds pass to keep the Blazers afloat.  You can tell when Juwan is disgusted with either a turn of events or his teammates' effort.  He simply collars a guy around the neck.  Tonight it was Gasol.  The rest of the Blazers are collectively nice enough to make up for it, so fine by me.

Jerryd Bayless had an interesting night, getting a couple of nice drives including a last-second layup that saved the first quarter from looking as ugly as it was.  But he also made some mistakes and looked to be dead in the water when Miller took off in the third period.  But the Grizz eventually cooled Andre down and when Miller started missing jumpers in the late fourth and became somewhat of a handicap Nate called on Bayless to come in and defend, perhaps also hitting emergency jumpers.  In the end Jerryd delivered a nice night, picking his spots to score 9 points on 4-8 shooting with 5 rebounds, 3 assists, a steal, and a block in 18 minutes.

Rudy Fernandez hit a three but couldn't stem the Grizz attack and didn't play that long.  He ended up with 5 points on 2-7 shooting, 1-6 from distance, in 17 minutes.

Speaking of not playing long, Martell Webster missed 3 of 4 shots in 6 minutes and got pulled for his last one, an abysmal near-three-but-not-quite attempt that was both covered and on the move away from the basket.  He never saw the floor again.  3 points and a block.

Speaking of not playing long again, Dante Cunningham got only 3 minutes.  But he packed a breakaway layup and the extra free throw plus an offensive rebound putback into those three minutes, scoring 5 points and hustling on defense as well.

Ups and downs aside, the Blazers did what they needed to do.  They pulled themselves out of the fire and kept the playoff target firmly in sight against a team that wanted badly to do the same themselves.  That's plenty good for the evening.

Boxscore

Check out the impressions over at StraightOuttaVancouver.

Find your Jersey Contest scores for the evening here and enter the next game there.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Dante > Juwan

I know Memphis has size inside, but Juwan didn’t look good tonight, and Dante looked great in just a couple of minutes. Crazy. More. Dante. Please!

by travis13 on Mar 1, 2010 10:10 PM PST reply actions  

Wins are nice

but it seems logical that the wins would be easier if Dante was the regular, and Howard got spot minutes. Howard is an inch taller and 25 lbs heavier, but not as strong or physical – and can’t shoot much or play defense, much.

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 1, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

there is no way....

that Dante is giving up 25 pounds to Juwan. He has bulked up significantly since his days at Nova.

by EagGolfer3 on Mar 1, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

watching that dunk over Amare, I couldn’t help but notice that they are closer to the same size as I had previously imagined.

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Mar 1, 2010 11:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Juwan was very poor in that game

but Dante was way overmatched inside against Zach. There were no good options, really.

I thought Juwan’s flagrant foul was the opposite of veteran savvy. When you’re up double-digits in the fourth, you don’t want to give them free throws AND the ball, and run the risk of waking them up and making them mad. What a dumb play.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 2, 2010 6:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Fouls

No reason to give them free points. Although, the refs did seem to let some banging go in that game. I might have tried it.

I don’t think Pendergraph is really quick enough against Zach, though.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 3, 2010 5:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Dante looked awesome

the only Blazer to look alive in that first half, to not reward that with even a few second half minutes seemed a little obscene to me…we won though, that is all that matters at this point.

"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man

by PDXBuckeye on Mar 2, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Batum=awesome

Period.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Mar 1, 2010 10:14 PM PST reply actions  

Can't help but think ...

how the current version of Zach Randolph would look great tearing it up in the paint for the Black and Red. Blazers could sure use a bulldog like that right now. Oh what could have been if Zbo’s time had gone better here …

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Mar 1, 2010 10:18 PM PST reply actions  

Still doesn't pass

At all though.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Mar 1, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes selfishness is a good thing.

Either way, I doubt this would be a problem as much with Roy as alpha dog. Zbo would be receiving the ball after it goes through Roy, not before.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Mar 1, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

without oden

zach be OK, but because lamarcus’ game is a great compliment to oden; aldridge

Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
1. n. Something that inspires awe
2. n. Nicolas Batum

by thomasikehara on Mar 1, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that was working great before Oden went down.

LMA was really killing it.

Sorry to be pessimistic. I’ve just been very disappointed with LMA lately, scoring aside (for the most part).

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Mar 1, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

the only thing that i dont like about him

is his rebounding

Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
1. n. Something that inspires awe
2. n. Nicolas Batum

by thomasikehara on Mar 1, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Defense? Effort? Affect? Intensity?

These are things that I would add to his rebounding as far as things I currently find unimpressive … certainly not worth the contract he just signed … yet.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Mar 1, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

those might be part of his lack of rebounding

Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
1. n. Something that inspires awe
2. n. Nicolas Batum

by thomasikehara on Mar 1, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

you and those like you who think LMA isn't already worth his next year's contract are wrong

There are a ton of quantifiable ways to show that LMA is very much worth the money. However, he has a style that more than a few object to, and any PF with less finesse and more bulk usually is the flavor of the day….

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 1, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd love to see those numbers.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Mar 1, 2010 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.

He’s also 13th in PER among power forwards, which is pretty amazing considering his slow start.

I think he’s probably a top ten PF when all is said and done. Still young enough to improve and a great fit with Oden to boot.

by The Running Man on Mar 2, 2010 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Great fit on paper, sure.

However, was having a bad year until Oden got hurt. Remains to be seen how well they can play together in the long run.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Mar 2, 2010 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Not a bad fit on the court either

LMA’s counting stats were down when Oden was playing because his touches were down. However, his rates were virtually identical to 2008/2009 season’s – the same season the Blazers were #2 in the league in outperforming the opponent at the 4 position.

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 2, 2010 12:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

You could say the same thing about Oden and Roy though. Oden wasn’t exactly fitting with anyone except Miller.

by The Running Man on Mar 2, 2010 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

according to 82games.com

Oden played better with Blake than Miller.

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 2, 2010 12:24 AM PST up reply actions  

So, according to 82games...

Oden played better with the starters than the reserves? Crazy.

by The Running Man on Mar 2, 2010 12:28 AM PST up reply actions  

not sure I'd go that far

but I erred – the difference in the two top lineups for Oden was Webster vs. Miller, not Blake vs. Miller….(Oden did best alongside Blake/Webster/Roy/Aldridge)

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 2, 2010 12:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I would have to take a closer look at the numbers.

My eyeballs tell me that Miller helped Oden get going offensively.

In fact, Oden has said himself that he likes playing with Miller because he helped him get other big in foul trouble, etc. Miller said the same thing, so there was definitely some sort of synergy there.

by The Running Man on Mar 2, 2010 12:40 AM PST up reply actions  

He is 8th in VA among PFs.

Which is primarily a measure of offense (points added vs. replacement player). This does not surprise me since scoring is the one thing he’s shown he can do.

Rather than cherry pick the stats we like, let’s just walk through all the ESPN stats to get the whole picture:
-13th in PER. I’d like to see him higher for what he’s about to get paid, but this isn’t all too bad. More problematic is that his PER hasn’t improved, and has even slightly declined over 3 years. Meaning: He’s not getting better. He is the player he’s going to be. That’s bad news considering we paid him based on all of that untapped potential, which may well be tapped.
-37th in total rebounding rate. This is where my disappointment begins. I think LMA could play tougher basketball, starting with the rebounds.
-31st in True Shooting . Again I think this is an indictment of LMA’s toughness. Low TS because he floats on the perimeter, shoots jumpers, and doesn’t draw fouls. For the money he’s getting, I’d like more.
-30th in Assist %. A whopping one point better than the black hole you mentioned below named Zach Randolph.
-4th in Turnover %. I guess that’s good. Could mean he simply shoots the ball once he touches it, rather than trying to do something more with it. Not a risk taker.
-19th in usage. Right below Oleksiy Pecherov.

Objectively, the picture I am left with is of a PF who is the 8th best scorer at his position, but who is fairly maudlin to worse than middling at most other parts of the game. Subjectively, he just doesn’t inspire me. I want to see some fire out of the guy, but I mostly see stone. In other words, not yet worth the contract he just signed.

I guess you can interpret the numbers differently, but you still haven’t persuaded me.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Mar 2, 2010 12:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Randolph is passing more this season.

He really isn’t much of a black-hole anymore.

by The Running Man on Mar 2, 2010 12:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, 38th in the league among PFs hardly makes him Jason Kidd.

However, this stat probably gives Randolph a bad rap. This is simply a measure of the # of his possessions that ends in an assist. He earns a number of possessions through putbacks, which probably pads his stat to the negative. And frankly, he’s in there to score. Run to the block, get the ball, score the ball. So your point is well taken. This hardly absolves LMA, though.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Mar 2, 2010 12:55 AM PST up reply actions  

No one is saying LMA is perfect

but being the 8th best PF in VA means that LMA is productive – and every single player ahead of him on that list is paid almost twice as much, at least. Even next year, when the extension kicks in – LMA will be the 2nd lowest paid player in that group, ahead of only Josh Smith (whole will be making almost as much).

But if you want to focus on the big picture – consider that LMA alongside a true center helped the Blazers to the 2nd best net PER among PF’s behind only Dirk Nowitzki and the Mav’s.

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 2, 2010 1:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Ahh. We are finally getting somewhere.

I have never criticized LMA’s scoring ability, though I wish he would toughen up and score inside.

My criticism has always revolved around the toughness factor, and facets of the game other than offense. The stats seem to back both of us up. You praise him where praise is due. I criticize him where criticism is due. Maybe next time I get frustrated and vent about his lack of effort/ability on defense or the boards, perhaps you will not be so quick to judge me harshly.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Mar 2, 2010 1:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I still don't understand what LA's upcoming salary has to do with his play

Paul Allen writes the checks, and it isnt like LA’s contract is the reason the blazers won’t be under the cap for quite some time. How would LA being signed to a 5 year 45 million contract as opposed to a 5 year 65 million contract effect the team? I feel like the only people that should worry about LA being overpaid should be the guy flipping the bill…

RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP

by Rudiculous on Mar 2, 2010 1:14 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Sorry, I didn't see this before responding below

and making the same point, only with more verbosity (as usual).

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 2, 2010 6:39 AM PST up reply actions  

So would you be happy if LMA was only getting $8 million a year?

I suspect you would.

Do you know what the difference is between $8 million and $13 million? It is precisely $5 million a year of Paul Allen’s money. We wouldn’t have cap space anyway. We’ll be paying luxury tax in a couple years anyway. Paul Allen was willing to pay more luxury tax than we’ll be paying, because he was willing to pay Hedo $50 million over five years, which was all going to be luxury tax money.

So it only matters to Allen, and he’s willing to pay. Why do you care? Instead of complaining about LMA, we should be saying, “Thank you, Paul Allen, for wanting to win and putting your money to that purpose.”

LMA’s low assists and turnovers are just a function of how he is used in the offense. He is rarely given the ball except when he is expected to score. He isn’t expected to pass out of the post, and when he gets it for an open jumper, he’s supposed to pop it.

He’s supposed to be outside to draw the big men out and leave the lane open for Miller and Roy to slash to the hoop, or for Andre to post up. Your problem is not with LMA, it is that you don’t like Nate’s offense.

Defensively, he could certainly be tougher in the low post.

His rebounds aren’t that high because A) on the offensive end, he’s often outside and B) on the defensive end, too often we switch on the pick and roll, and he ends up chasing guards around the perimeter.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 2, 2010 6:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not going to get into an argument about this, we’ll just talk in circles. But I will say that the switches on the perimeter are extremely often due to his apparent desire to switch. It’s often needless.

#52

by Cablinasian on Mar 2, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Due to LMA's desire

or the guards?

I agree we don’t need to switch as often as we do. We do it so much that I really do wonder if it is Nate’s plan, to use LMA’s length off the PnR.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 3, 2010 5:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

Twice in one day. I must not be feeling well.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Mar 2, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

LMA has looked good on this road trip

I know people have been bagging on him a lot lately, but, for the most part he looked good this trip.

He just needs to get the 4th qtr killer instinct, when Roy is out like he was, people look for that 4th qtr leader, LMA did not fill THAT role very well, hence the bashing commenced…

he can actually learn that, somebody on the coaching staff has to get into his head about it though, probably over the off season…

"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man

by PDXBuckeye on Mar 2, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Stop with the LA hate! The guy has played UBER minutes...more than ANYONE ELSE

on the team. He sat for the majority of the 4th quarters against Toronto and Memphis. Not really easy to be effective when sitting. Which he DESERVED to do. Also he was not getting help in the beginning of the game. He and Camby were getting beat up.

by Natsthecat on Mar 2, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Nicolas Batum

Great sign off! Wish I had thought of it. Having Nic back has been a beautiful beautiful thing!

"He's just so big and strong and he overpowers everybody on our team," ~ Kurt Rambis

by Medhast on Mar 2, 2010 12:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Can hardly blame him for that tonight ...

Not like LMA or Juwan lit him up.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Mar 1, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

we get it - you like Zbo more than LMA

but I’d rather have LMA on this Blazer team than ZBO, and it ain’t close.

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 1, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Royal we?

No, you don’t “get it.”

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Mar 1, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I get that you like to bash LMA

but you have to ignore quantifiable evidence to do so….

There is a difference between proclaiming a bad player and showing how that player is bad. You have your opinion, it isn’t defensible using factual evidence, others therefore will disagree with you.

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 1, 2010 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's chill a little here folks

Accusations are not a good cradle for truth to rest in.

—Dave

by Dave on Mar 2, 2010 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

mea culpa

it came out worse than intended….the idea was to simply reiterate that we have stats contradicting negative opinions of LaMarcus Aldridge…

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 2, 2010 12:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Somehow, if feels odd

but the Blazers’ last two wins came via defense…..

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 1, 2010 10:19 PM PST reply actions  

We've won a lot of games this year with defense

Our win in Phoenix, our wins in Charlotte and New Orleans, our previous win in Memphis, our first win in Dallas, there have been quite a few where the defense was the key factor.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 2, 2010 6:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Meanwhile the Nuggets lose in Phoenix, The Clippers beat Utah in LA, and The Spus win in New Orleans

"Good, Better, Best, never let it rest until your good is your better and your better is your best." Tim Duncan

by flynn4blazers on Mar 1, 2010 10:22 PM PST reply actions  

blake and outlaw doing what they can to help the blazers

Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
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2. n. Nicolas Batum

by thomasikehara on Mar 1, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Next up, Phoenix and OKC

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 2, 2010 6:42 AM PST up reply actions  

when Miller started missing jumpers in the late fourth and became somewhat of a handicap Nate called on Bayless to come in and defend

I thought this one of the most noteworthy developments of this game—Nate pulled Miller out and went with the Bayless-Roy backcourt for most of crunch time, down the stretch. (When Andre did return briefly, he nearly threw the game away with his in-bounds pass into the backcourt, but Batum bailed ’Dre out with his block on Mayo.) Do I think Jerryd has “turned a page” and will now be the “PG of choice” to finish games alongside Brandon? No, but it was interesting that when Nate needed “something different” than the quickly-fading Miller he chose Jerryd and left Rudy on the bench. Perhaps “all it was” was the defensive matchup on Conley that Rex provided, but it was good to see Nate “trust” his 21 year-old combo guard and then Bayless not do anything to screw up the opportunity he was given.

Need I remind everyone that Webster was the 6th selection in the 2005 draft? He could go down as one of the biggest boo-boos in Blazer draft history. Martell’s not quite “Ronnie Murphy bad” but he’s not that far off, considering where the Blazers started that day in the draft order and “who” they could’ve picked.

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by two4larue on Mar 1, 2010 10:35 PM PST reply actions  

Regarding Bayless coming in toward the end

I was a little surprised. But it makes sense. If we’re just going to run a few Brandon isos, it makes much more sense to have Bayless sitting on the baseline than Dre. I thought it was a good coaching move.

Still on the Rex bandwagon.

by dan_the_man on Mar 1, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Bayless, and have lobbied all season for him to get more PG time

but if you can’t find a way to use Miller in crunch time, something is wrong.

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 1, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think it's a trend

Andre isn’t going to “have it” every time, he looked like he had “shot his wad” early in the game, and had run out of gas at the end of a long road trip. (It couldn’t have been easy for him to have to chase Conley around, etc) I actually think it’s healthy that Nate feels he can substitute for Miller, when the situation dictates. FWIW, I don’t think McMillian would’ve made the same decision to remove Blake or Travis at the end of games, last year. If the Blazers can win close games with kids like Bayless and Batum on the floor alongside Roy, that bodes well for Portland’s future

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by two4larue on Mar 1, 2010 11:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Miller does have his issues defensively - and with being able to shoot wide open J's

so it’s hard to fault better defense and better outside shooting. However, I do think that Miller being pulled for these reasons is a trend, evidenced by Mac’s rotations in the Chicago and Memphis games…

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 2, 2010 12:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Most of the time I agree with your posts...

However, this time I think you’re a little off base. For one thing, if I were Miller I’d be absolutely peaved for being pulled out of a game where I was one of the deciding factors in keeping the game close early in the second half. On another note, Bayless had some major mental lapses that could have been the final nail in the coffin; it made me cringe and beg the television to bring miller back in the game when he started throwing his trademark errant/out of control passes to his teamates. I really like Bayless, but I beleive that if Miller is to be an important piece to this team Nate needs to show some faith and respect.

by netking on Mar 1, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

All good points.

Except that the Grizz were rallying and Nate needed to do something. He put in Bayless and the bleeding stopped. Who knows if the two are related, but it worked this time. If Miller pouts about getting a win, well, that’s on him. Nate did what he needed to. I’m okay with it tonight.

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by bfan on Mar 1, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

True

A Win is a Win, I’m just remembering how dumbfounded I was that he put in Bayless in to sub for a grizzled vet like Miller in a close game in the fourth qaurter – especially when Miller was obviously playing a better game. Like you said though, we won tonight, it worked and I’m okay with that.

by netking on Mar 1, 2010 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Defense

He put Jerryd in on a defensive possession, I believe.

Andre was starting to flail, just like he did late in the Chicago game, Nate recognized it earlier, and went with someone who could play defense, at least.

Andre is strange. He’ll have games where he runs the game like a master at the end of the game, and other games where he just looks out of sorts at the end. I don’t know the difference, but I know it when I see it. I remember thinking, “Andre isn’t going to give us anything but missed shots here,” with just a few minutes left, and almost immediately Nate took him out.

Other times, you KNOW Andre should have the ball and he’s going to do something good with it.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 2, 2010 6:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I agree

I know it when I see it too

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by 92wastheyear on Mar 2, 2010 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

it's a fine line

Sure, Miller was probably “put off” for not being on the floor at the end, but Andre wasn’t getting it done at the end of the game like he had been, earlier. Nate’s been sending a message “the players who are giving the team the best chance to win” on a given night will be “in there” at the end. (That’s why Martell and Rudy played short minutes.) Wednesday night it may be different, but with the exception of Roy/LMA everyone is going to have to “bring it” every night to earn their PT. ‘Dre will suck it up and do better, and he’ll force Nate to keep him in future games until the end. If Portland had lost tonight he’d have more of a beef, but it’s hard to grouse about the coach when the players who remained in the game held off a team who had come from behind on Portland (at home) so memorably, earlier in the season

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by two4larue on Mar 1, 2010 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno...

I just think that certain players like miller are similiar to the Roy’s of the game – You need to trust them in order for them to operate the best way they know how (im not saying miller brings what roy brings to the table) but a PG who feels he will be pulled the second he makes a mistake isn’t going to operate the best way they know how. Furthermore, why shouldn’t LMA have to “bring it” in the 4th? He plays like crap late in the game nearly every single time. I realize we don’t have many big’s, but if you’re trying to send a message maybe LMA needs to be told he SUCKS in the 4th quarter.

by netking on Mar 1, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe, I haven't looked at his "advanced metrics" or whatever you call it

But his performance in the last year certainly does. No defense + crappy offense = bad 4th quarter player. As a Blazer fan I have dealt with these types way too many times. If he was good in the 4th, I wouldn’t cringe every time he takes a shot in the 4th. He seems incabable of making a big play late in the game. Look at his first quarter stats vs. his 4th qouarter stats; I think you’ll find a huge difference offensively at least

by netking on Mar 1, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

The difference between his 1st quarter stats and 4th quarter stats are hardly aldridges fault

The blazers make a consistent effort to run the offense through Aldridge early, and then a consistent effort to run the offense through Roy late. Blame the coaching staff, not LA…

RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP

by Rudiculous on Mar 1, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Miller's had some 4th quarter meltdowns

BE night (when CP3 and NOLA came from behind to catch and pass the Blazers) comes to mind. Andre was trying to get it done down the stretch that night (and tonight) but it just wasn’t happening for him. When this is the case, Nate needs to try something else

As far as LMA playing in the 4th quarter, you’re right, there aren’t many “alternatives” at the big positions. When Oden was healthy and Outlaw was still with the team, perhaps Nate could afford to remove #12 down the stretch in close games. But McMillian can’t play Howard and Camby on the offensive end for long, together. The defense isn’t going to commit a defnder to those guys and that will just make it harder for Brandon (etc) to get a decent look at the basket. Like I said earlier, LMA was Roy’s “PnR partner” on a few of those late-game possessions, and that was the correct (only) choice for those screens. Cunningham might be able to take over that role in the future, but not now

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by two4larue on Mar 1, 2010 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

LMA in the fourth qtr is often dbl teamed if he shot well in the first qtr. That makes him a good decoy to prevent putting all five players on BRoy

hg

by BBK on Mar 2, 2010 2:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Bayless stats for the road trip

8.6 pts per game
2.4 assists pg
.08 turnover pg
2 reb pg
.06 steal pg
15 min played pg

3 to 1 ratio on assists to to’s. If Martell and Juwan are not shooting badly Bayless probably gets even more assists. The Blazers were also 4 and 1 on the trip. These are all pretty good numbers for a backup point guard.

by dawgman47 on Mar 1, 2010 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

dry spells

I thought Nate did a better job tonight of leaving Roy or Miller in the game with Bayless, but there was a stretch earlier in the game where Jerryd and Rudy were running the offense (without Brandon/Andre) that started out positively, then fizzled. Of course, the Blazer’s bench had periods of “stagnation” last season as well, even when the team was was successful and winning games last March/April.

The difference now is that Nate can play Roy/Miller more mpg with the upcoming schedule easing up (more days off) and this should help keep these unproductive quarters to a minimum. But even Brandon/Andre can serve up weak sauce from time to time, as we saw in the first half. To be battle-tested reserve guards Bayless/Rudy will have to provide “something extra” to “pick up” their starting backcourt, when this happens.

Instant offense is always appreciated

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by two4larue on Mar 1, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy jeezus

You “use” a “lot” of ""

by plyka on Mar 2, 2010 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

What was with that inbounds pass?

That was a veteran PG? That was horrible, horrible, horrible. I also thought it was bad. And atrocious.

If you can’t inbound it, and you can’t call time out, don’t throw it where they get an easy fastbreak! In the circumstances, throw a lob to one of your big men, and get your rear end down court as quickly as you can, so if they get it they can’t turn it into a quick basket. Make them work to score, at least. The absolute worst thing you can do is give up a quick basket in that situation.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 2, 2010 6:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Roy went the wrong direction

Roy took his man right to where Batum was. He should have spun around and been wide open for an easy pass.

by ralphzillo on Mar 2, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I noticed that, too

but it was still a horrible pass.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 3, 2010 5:29 AM PST up reply actions  

he missed 1 jumper and had a layup blocked

the probloem is the slowdown game in the 4th. period!!

by utahcoyote on Mar 2, 2010 7:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Is it?

How come he’s so effective sometimes in that slowdown game?

The problem is, the game almost always slows down because the defense concentrates and clamps down at the end of the game, so the things that came free and easy don’t come so smoothly anymore.

That’s when we go to the iso, for better or worse. But if we’re going to go to the iso, it often makes more sense to have Jerryd in there than Andre, especially if we’re playing a PG that is giving Andre trouble on the other end.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 2, 2010 7:51 AM PST up reply actions  

if we’re going to go to the iso, it often makes more sense to have Jerryd in there than Andre

Bayless has come a long way since October for someone like yourself to make this observation. Think about it, coming out of fall camp there was no way anyone could look at Portland’s depth chart and put Jerryd any higher than 5th on the guard rotation. And now he’s finishing games that matter at the end of the season? Sure, a lot of that is due to the injuries and the Blake trade, and I don’t expect to see a steady diet of Rex in the game during crunch time, going forward. But if Bayless’ career in Portland is like a mountain-climbing expedition, the fact that Nate sent him into a crucial game late with the outcome in doubt is a milestone, where we should take a moment to stop and take a look back at how much ground he’s gained.

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by two4larue on Mar 2, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I've felt all season

that Jerryd was a very good option to play off the ball next to Brandon in clutch time. He’s not (yet anyway) the shooter that Blake is, but he’s at least as big of a threat to score if given an opening, and that prevents his man collapsing on Brandon.

I said the same thing over the summer. It’s just that Nate is finally agreeing with me. :)

You are correct that Jerryd was too mistake prone last year to fill that role, but it was coming, and that’s why the Blazers have always been so high on his future.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 3, 2010 5:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Underselling Dante

Gotta love what Dante did tonight on offense.

Layup? Putback? Did we watch the same game?

Those were big-time hammer dunks, kids.

by dwaynebillybob on Mar 1, 2010 10:55 PM PST reply actions  

You can tell when Juwan is disgusted with either a turn of events or his teammates’ effort. He simply collars a guy around the neck. Tonight it was Gasol. The rest of the Blazers are collectively nice enough to make up for it, so fine by me.

If you remember, tonight wasn’t the first time that Howard committed a flagrant foul on Pau’s “little” brother. I’m not big on flagrants or fighting, but when a “message” needs to be sent, at least Portland has a PF who can deliver it. And if Juwan ever gets ejected or suspended for “going too far” (which I doubt he will) it’s not like he’s an integral part of the offense. Nate could call on Dante or even Pendergraph to fill in while Juwan “cools down” in the locker room. The best thing about Howard’s “temper tantrums” is that he shows the kids how much winning games this season means to him, and how “being nice” will get you beat.

OTOH, I didn’t mind it when LMA was called for his 5th foul and had to leave the game. I figured he wasn’t going to be shooting anymore (unless it was purely by accident) down the stretch, and that Camby would be a better defender and rebounder, regardless. Of course LMA returned later and set some high screens for Brandon, but that was the bulk of his contributions in the 4th quarter. 2 rebounds for the game? How can this happen? #12 gets “bodied out of the way” by shorter men with lower centers of gravity (like Z-Bo) that’s how.

It’s going to be tough for the Blazers to get enough defensive “stops” to win a playoff series. It seems like unless there’s a steal or a tipped rebound that winds up sailing away from the paint, the opposing team bogarts their misses in the paint and the Blazers don’t get a change of possession. Fortunately, the Griz made the 2nd-half of their FTs tonight, so we didn’t have to watch the Blazers watch another missed FT being retrieved by a Memphis player.

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by two4larue on Mar 1, 2010 10:57 PM PST reply actions  

OK, I have to ask

Why do you put so many random words in quotations???

RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP

by Rudiculous on Mar 1, 2010 11:55 PM PST up reply actions  

they're not "random" words

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark

Take special note of the sections titled “irony” and “signaling unusual usage”

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by two4larue on Mar 2, 2010 12:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess I come from the 'pre-texting" generation

and I’m just honery-enough to use even more quotation marks, if y’all want to “call me out” on it!

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by two4larue on Mar 2, 2010 12:51 AM PST up reply actions  

haha

I wasnt trying to call you out, I was just curious. On a side note, I have a hard time reading your posts without imagining some random guy giving finger quotes…

RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP

by Rudiculous on Mar 2, 2010 1:18 AM PST up reply actions  

That was a stupid, stupid foul by Juwan

You don’t do that when you are up by double digits in the fourth and have been owning these guys. That could have been a four point play, and the Griz were sleep-walking to a loss up to that point.

There was no need to send a “message” right then.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 2, 2010 6:58 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaha!!!!

I thought the same exact thing! LMA is almost never effective in the 4th. Better to have a defensive/rebounding player in than someone who is afraid to play and shoot aggressivly.

by netking on Mar 1, 2010 11:10 PM PST reply actions  

actually, the Blazers are the top 1 or 2 in offensive efficiency in the 4th

LMA happens to be everyone’s favorite 4th-quarter whipping boy. However, I believe it was Ben or Invisible Ninja, or Ben using Invisible Ninja’s data, that showed LMA is the 2nd most efficient Blazer in terms of points per possession in the fourth.

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 2, 2010 12:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Great Road Trip

I don’t know if there was a poll before the trip, but I’m sure 4-1 would not have won… Excellent mental toughness exhibited by the Blazers this trip. Could have easily mailed it in down big early…

Batum saved this game. Steal, block, and great moving without the ball and finising jam to bail out Brandon on his second of three straight unproductive attempts in the horrible Portland iso (just like the prevent (winning) defense in the NFL.. Turrible) And Camby gets an assist, saving the next trip down off another Roy miss with his tip-in, and hustle play going to the floor to grab the ball and call timeout. Key vet plays.

Why did Dante play only a few minutes? He had super energy out there. The reason: the Griz started to iso Zack on him. So, instead of keeping Dante in there and switching him to guard somebody else, Nate takes out the one guy showing energy in the first half…. Turrible…

But, we survived, and should now prepare for our first round matchup with the hated Fakers…

by Visionary2 on Mar 1, 2010 11:14 PM PST reply actions  

I love what Nicolas Batum has been doing...

…And I have been really impressed by Dante Cunningham. Seriously, 5 points on perfect shooting and a rebound in only 3 minutes? Why aren’t we seeing more of him?

Both of those two are just the kind of players we need going forwards. Unselfish hustlers who give it their all on defense.

"He's just so big and strong and he overpowers everybody on our team," ~ Kurt Rambis

by Medhast on Mar 2, 2010 12:24 AM PST reply actions  

I agree wholeheartedly with you

Players like that might also allow us to take on another guy (or play one we already have more) who just scores a ton without worrying about his defense. Someday that could be important.

—Dave

by Dave on Mar 2, 2010 1:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Where would that guy play?

PG? There do not appear to be a lot of open rotation spots, even if you jettison one of Rudy/Webster.

by blacknoiseNW on Mar 2, 2010 1:04 AM PST up reply actions  

The biggest issue I have here, Dave

Is your slandering of Star Trek: First Contact (the 8th). It was far superior to the seventh, “Generations.” I’d go so far as to say that it was the best of the old school Star trek movies. Hell, I’ll go even farther – it was a really good movie!

I’m calling you out on that one. Defend your slander, sir!

by sagcat on Mar 2, 2010 10:58 AM PST reply actions  

lol

I didn’t notice your post till after I posted mine.

I’m right there with you, brother! Fight the ignorance!

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Mar 2, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait a minute... Star Trek's 8-12???

You just left off the biggest pile of dog doots in Star Trek history, Star Trek “Generations” (#7) and included (Star Trek “First Contact” #8) and the most recent one…

 A travesty I say!

Not to mention that the Star Trek franchise is only up to number 11…

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Mar 2, 2010 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

It was so bad...

it was like watching a parallel universe Bay Watch where all the gals are dressed in Burkas

by ralphzillo on Mar 2, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Found it.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Mar 2, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

So sexy! The Arab Pamela Anderson!

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Mar 2, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Good article, Dave...

as usual.
And I like the “Long Story Short” intro you’ve been doing.

by bringtheking on Mar 2, 2010 9:31 PM PST reply actions  

So do I

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 3, 2010 5:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I was checking on ESPN.com the league leaders in 3pt field goal percent. Batum is not on the list because

he has only shot 54 threes. It says the minimum to be qualified on the league leaders list is 55. Once Nic shoots one more 3 pointer, make or miss, he will be the leagues 3rd best three point shooter.

by BRoyInThe4th on Mar 3, 2010 1:04 AM PST reply actions  

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