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Team Defense: Jack Ramsay and the Portland Trailblazers

I just want to thank Timbo for sending me this great footage. The man is a true gentleman and a scholar. If you haven't already checked out his stuff I highly suggest you do so. 

The footage itself is from the 1978 Portland Trailblazers and is narrated by Dr. Jack Ramsay. It basically breaks down the team's defensive schemes and focuses on both individual and team defense. I had the chance to get the original 16mm reel transfered while working on my own film project about sasquatch. (You can check that out too if you feels so inclined.)  

Obviously this footage is intended for educational use only. Give Timbo mad, super-dope, props for purchasing the reel in the first place. I'm not a defensive expert by any means so I'd like to get everyone's thoughts on the schemes and how they relate to the current team. (Where's AK when you need him?)


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THANK YOU!

A positive attitude will not solve all of your problems but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort - Herm Albright

Keep the faith.

by fajunga on Feb 3, 2010 5:54 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks Timbo and Running Man!

"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green

by antediluvian on Feb 3, 2010 6:08 PM PST reply actions  

Wow

filmed at GFU the year I graduated from HS in Sherwood. I have no memory of this series being televised back then. Thanks for sharing

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Feb 3, 2010 7:12 PM PST reply actions  

It looks to be more like a "training video" type thing...

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Feb 3, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha ha, dudes were wearing Nikes in 1978...

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Feb 3, 2010 8:45 PM PST reply actions  

From Wikipedia...
The company was founded on January 25, 1964 as Blue Ribbon Sports by Bill Bowerman and Philip Knight, and officially became Nike, Inc. in 1978.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Feb 3, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

RECCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!!!!!

Thanks Timbo for getting that 16mm reel!!!!

"What people need to know is that those pictures were taken a year and a half ago, and I've grown since then." - Greg Oden

by dario argento on Feb 3, 2010 10:01 PM PST reply actions  

Running Man made it happen...

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Feb 4, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Rectastic!...

i’m pretty sure i could have made the NBA against some of those guys :) the white dude with curly afro hair was terribl e

fiftytwo

by broyposse on Feb 3, 2010 10:40 PM PST reply actions  

Seeing those players brings back memories

Note: having Maurice Lucas on your team doesn’t hurt your defense either. I wonder what might have happened if Mychal Thompson didn’t have to play out of position at center all those years. At 6’ 10" he was a natural power forward yet had to go against the game’s giants night in and night out.

by rockman on Feb 4, 2010 12:04 AM PST reply actions  

The background audio track for this video is LEGIT.

"Put God first in all you do and your dreams [of making money off people's misfortune] will come true."
- Q

by halo_on on Feb 4, 2010 1:38 AM PST reply actions  

we were all looking for any alternative to Disco, back in the day

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Feb 4, 2010 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it was a disco'd out version of "She's a Lady"

Whoa oh whoa she’s a laday! talkin about my little laday!

I didn't mean to turn you on

by dukedee on Feb 4, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Great tape. A few observations

Obviously a lot of what is seen early and throughout the film would be not allowed under hand checking rules now. A lot of players briefly reach in when checking guards above the perimeter, and that would be just that: Reaching in. Then I’m not exactly sure when this was introduced but the big guys are frequently “camping in the lane” without guarding anyone specific one on one (the charge circles also were introduced only recently). Some of the “side to side” defense does seem to be almost a modern matchup zone shifting from side to side and not so much a pure man to man defense.

“When blocking a shot, is important to keep the ball inbounds to start an offensive drive”: Sage advice but pretty funny. Most of the best current shot blockers in the league don’t, and TV crews love it when the ball flies into 3rd row. I also would like a few of those fast break players.

“Play defense with your feet”: Too true.

“Show and recover”: Not really what Nate teaches. The Blazers switch an awful lot on defense. KP2 recently remarked on a podcast that he got used to that when playing on the Sonics, but that was a team with very athletic shot-blocking big men, a huge small forward in Schrempf, and tall guards with Nate and Payton. In Seattle and in Portland he frequently didn’t have that player material. He claims they make an effort to avoid switching (especially early in the season when it involved Greg or Joel and a guard), but very often it didn’t work. If you switch Batum on a taller or smaller player, that can work well. If Blake/Bayless/Miller end up on the PF or Oden/Joel/Juwan/LaMarcus on the PG, that’s not so great. Best “show and recover” big man in the league right now: Arguably KG who always seems to come out to the perimeter with a purpose, though there are some other good ones too. Duncan isn’t bad either. LaMarcus is often decent.

“Must front his man on the inside pass” when defending against the rub-off. Interesting, I haven’t paid much attention to this, but I think this has been often lost in today’s NBA among guards and most small forwards. Maybe because players are faster and it’s usually taught to stay between your man and the basket and not “gamble” for steals or deflections. Usually only big guys front, but why not to deny the pass?

“Maintain contact with your man on the rebound”: True, true. Same with “all five defenders must keep sight of the ball in transition defense”.

I suppose Nic or maybe even the coaches would be happy to dissect that ;-)

by Norsktroll on Feb 4, 2010 1:57 AM PST reply actions  

"When blocking a shot, is important to keep the ball inbounds to start an offensive drive": Sage advice but pretty funny. Most of the best current shot blockers in the league don’t, and TV crews love it when the ball flies into 3rd row.

Bill Russell was saying the same thing as Jack, 2 decades earlier

Portland’s team defensive concepts changed in the mid-80s; Schuler brought them over form Milwaukee. (Ramsay’s team defense wasn’t very successful preventing the L*kers (etc) from winning playoff series, during that decade) Of course nowadays, zone defense is legal, as long as the big man obeys the defensive 3 second rule

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Feb 4, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't forget

that Russell was a student of Red Auerbach

Auerbach is remembered as a pioneer of modern basketball, redefining basketball as a game dominated by team play and tough defense rather than individual feats and high scoring and introducing the fast break as a potent offensive weapon.2 He groomed many players who went on to be inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame. Additionally, Auerbach was vital in breaking down color barriers in the NBA. He made history by drafting the first African-American NBA player, Chuck Cooper in 1950, and introduced the first fully black starting five in 1964.

I would think Ramsey was also a student of Auerbach.

  The noteworthy items that may change Ramsey’s defensive alignment would be the one you mentioned (zone defense) and the addition of the 3 point shot. Ramsey hated the 3 point shot because he felt you should not reward players for taking a lower % shot in favor of working your offense to produce the best % shot available.
   Both Ramsey and Auerbach became dated in a sense, but the basic fundamental logic of their style of basketball lives in the background today and still works to a high degree. What were talking about here is fundamental basketball displayed as a philosophy to success.
   That said, you have to have the players to get you there. When Walton went south, so did Jack Ramsey’s team. But I still think the reason Jack faded away was because the game was changing (in particular the 3 point shot) In a sense, the game has reverted back to offensive entertainment and not defensive philosophy. Individual talent as opposed to team play………So defense gets it’s lone highlight out of block into the stands.

by WyEast on Feb 4, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the game changed

and the things that worked for Jack and Stu Inman in the ‘70s no longer worked in the ’80s. For example, Magic Johnson had a huge impact on the league in that decade, suddenly every team had to have a 6’9 PG, but there was only one Magic

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Feb 4, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to add Red to the Russell comment

but I figured going “back” to Bill was far enough…there’s no one person who had a bigger impact on the history of the NBA than Auerbach…at least until MJ came along

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Feb 4, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Late to the party

Awesome video

One thing I noticed about the video is that without the three-point shot, the weakside spacing on offense is pretty much shot. In each video, either there was nobody spacing on the weakside corner or wing, or the defense just didn’t respect that shooter, because it’s a low percentage shot if you don’t get an extra point. Rotating to help under the basket or if you get burned on the dribble is much easier when you only have to defend half the court: the guy who’s responsible for the weakside doesn’t have to go very far to help out, and the player stationed near the top of the key can pinch down on the offensive player on the weakside without much fear. In today’s NBA, where Rashard Lewis is standing there getting three points if you move more than 4 feet away from him, you’re dead.

by atomiccafe on Feb 4, 2010 9:03 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Excellent observation.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Feb 4, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a way of life, NBA style

Although the game has changed some with the addition of the 3 point shot and more athletic players, the defensive “mindset” is what makes good teams, champions.
   Jack Ramsay has always had the philosophy of defense as the cornerstone for team building. I recall him stating that “when a team plays good defense the offense will generally take care of itself.”
   But no matter how you technically apply a defensive strategy, it has no physical value, if it doesn’t become an adopted mindset of the team. In other words, if you don’t establish it as “trademark” for your team then it never gets to the forefront like it should.
  The Blazers of today always talk about it as a side note of conversation after the game, but it seems so shallow when you never see it as a sound fundamental in most games.
    My point would be this;
   Come out every game and establish yourself defensively…if you don’t do this the chances of winning are automatically reduced to 50% or less. You need defensive stops more that you need offensive efficiency and often good defense can improve offense because you can get more of the “easy hoops” (and thus have more energy to play good defense)

I’m glad you posted this video. (the timing was appropriate after the view of this last game vs Utah which outlined the reason for the loss)
 I see a lot of chatter in here about offense and how this team gets high marks for it. Most peoples eyes are on offense, because it is the highlights and the fun part of the game. ……But the reality is, this team puts itself in jeopardy for an “L” every time it doesn’t commit to defense as way of life and (instinctively) plays it every night.

by WyEast on Feb 4, 2010 9:33 AM PST reply actions  

the team made a commitment to defense during training camp

Nate and Roy talked about this, during interviews in October

Like it is with running after every possession, defensive intensity is a mindset that must be maintained by the coaching staff and the players who are in leadership roles. McMillian is a great admirer of Jerry Sloan, and Sloan’s teams have always been ultra-agressive, defensively. Some say that teams will “mirror” the personality of their head coach…what does that say about Portland, under Nate, if the players can’t sustain their defensive mindset for 48 minutes, 4-5 times a week?

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

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