Martel Webster - The league's 7th best teammate at the SF(?)

by Billy Hoyle on Feb 26, 2010 1:32 PM PST

At least according to one man's rating system: http://fresnobeach.com/?p=12211

The system is described/linked from the above, but here it is just the same: T.R.U.E. It appears to be 1/3 Hollinger's PER, 1/3 adj +/-, and 1/3 the author's personalized customized t-score, which is also based off of adj +/-.

Also worth noting, Miller is listed 6th among PGs, LA 7th for PF.

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This is really cool.

Official Adrian Wojnarowski Hater.

The Ardent Optimist.

by fajunga on Feb 26, 2010 1:33 PM PST reply actions

No Brandon?

Anywhere?! I can’t handle it.

Last year I worked hard but I came down with a Staph infection, so I had to sit out for 3 weeks. This year I didn't catch no Staph infection so I was able to work out full. -Big bass Trav

by MikeRiceIsForLovers on Feb 26, 2010 1:40 PM PST reply actions

bad metric

i think the only thing this proves is that this is obviously a terrible indicator much like +/- by itself

by 55wins on Feb 26, 2010 1:53 PM PST reply actions

wow

thanks for the insight. I’m sure the author would appreciate your thoughtful feedback for the hours of work he probably put into compiling those metrics.

I’m assuming by terrible you just mean that you disagree with some of the results? Because adj +/- is by no means perfect, but is actually a pretty good indicator when the sample size is large enough. Flawless it is not, but that certainly does not make it terrible.

by Billy Hoyle on Feb 26, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions

Stats don't really show us anything. They just point us to the right questions.

That’s what Daryl Morey says anyway.

Batum brings the doom.

by The Running Man on Feb 26, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions

I'm not a fan of +/- for one player

and it drives me nuts when people use it for one game to say someone is good or bad. Things like playing with 1st or 2nd unit affect it so much. It’s good for comparing 5 man units to see work better together.

"Maybe we can't stroll to the music of the lute. We must march to the sound of drums." -Captain Kirk

by terryisntbald on Feb 27, 2010 12:15 AM PST up reply actions