Clearing The Notebook
There was a ton going on this week. Let's knock down some topics one by one.
Comcast
Comcast Sports Northwest wasn't thrilled with yesterday's interview. To hear their side, follow this link to The Oregon Politico's video of testimony from Comcast's David Manougian. The part they would like you to focus on...
"DirecTV, which is the nation's second-largest TV distributor and also owns FSN Northwest, has made the decision not to carry Comcast SportsNet. We have repeatedly offered DirecTV distribution proposals to carry Comcast SportsNet on terms comparable to those already accepted by eleven other distributors. DirecTV has been unwilling to engage in meaningful negotiations to carry Comcast SportsNet, and we cannot force them to buy the network. We can only surmise that they don't have an interest in Comcast SportsNet and our Blazers, Ducks, and other programming."
Same old, same old. Comcast continues to steadfastly refuse to provide information regarding the financial specifics of their negotiations with DirecTV. John Canzano argues nicely that they should reconsider this policy.
Offers to a legislator and to Comcast to provide their thoughts on Wednesday's hearing here on Blazersedge have been made. Stay tuned. <-- Horrible pun.
Martell Webster
There was a great piece in Sports Illustrated by Kelli Anderson about the insane basketball talent pipeline that has developed in the Seattle-area over the last decade or so. The article focuses on some of the most recent Seattle-area products and their relationships with the previous generation of guys like Jamal Crawford. The story reminded me of this post from October 2008 when Brandon Roy unexpectedly popped into the Lewis and Clark College gym to say what's up to a Washington AAU team filled with prospects like Abdul Gaddy and Tony Wroten.
Anyway, both Roy and Martell Webster are mentioned in the SI piece. There's a great vignette about Webster and his AAU coach Jim Marsh, who was actually a former Portland Trail Blazer.
Marsh, who played for USC in the '60s and then, briefly, for the nascent Portland Trail Blazers, worked as an assistant coach at Utah for seven years before being hired as a Sonics TV commentator in 1981. An executive for Costco, Marsh runs a company program called Washington State Mentors, and he volunteers as the coach of Friends of Hoop. What does he get out of it? "The relationships I have with players blow me away," he says.
In 2004, when he had what was probably his best team-it included future NBA draft picks Hawes, Martell Webster and Jon Brockman as well as future McDonald's All-American Micah Downs and Stanford-bound Mitch Johnson, as well as Isaiah Thomas-Marsh learned he had Parkinson's disease. Once he told the team, he says, "Martell wouldn't let me pick up a bag again."
As Marsh tells this story, his eyes fill. "Maybe it's the medication I take," he says, "but sometimes I get a bit snivelly."
Kenny Thomas
I wrote on Friday that the Blazers were targeting guys that shook loose during or shortly after the trade deadline for their 15th spot and this morning Jason Quick has confirmed that one of those names is Kenny Thomas, who was cut loose by the Sacramento Kings to make roster space for incoming players in the Martin-for-Landry mini-blockbuster.
Asked this morning to describe Thomas's Kings tenure in one word, SacTown Royalty's Tom Ziller chose "Interminable." Indeed, Thomas possessed a difficult-to-move contract that saw him spent the last 5 years with the Kings, the last 3 of which he barely saw any playing time (57 combined games played since the 2007-2008 season). Here's Ziller's scouting report of Thomas for your dissection...
He's actually a solid defender. Quick. Quick hands. Pretty long. He can guard fours and small fives. Good defensive rebounder. His go-to defensive move: sticks a forearm right between the shoulder blades of a posting opponent. So he won't be much help against Dick Bavetta and the Lakers because he will foul out in 2 min, 45 seconds.
But on offense, he's Hasheem Thabeet level bad.
The Greatest Google Motion Chart of all Time
The Invisible Ninja has been hard at work all week producing his Google Motion Mona Lisa. Check it out. The spreadsheet tracks big-name players going back to 2004 and allows you to compare the players on 30+ factors, including the basics like shooting percentage but also advanced stats like Win Shares, Offensive Rating, etc. You can compare players on four different measures at a time by adjusting the X and Y axes and the bubble's size and color. It's overwhelmingly insane. Blow your whole Friday afternoon on that thing.
Shake, Gini and Scoring Efficiency Rating
I spent a good chunk of time looking back at Shake this week. On the suggestion of Kevin Pelton, I did some research on the Gini Coefficient, which KP2 says was suggested years ago on one of his super-dork forums to measure consistency. The Gini Coefficient is used to measure household income inequality across various societies. Like Shake, Gini runs along a 0 to 1 scale, with one being totally inconsistent and 0 being totally consistent. You might like to read up on it. Pretty interesting stuff.
I ran both Shake and Gini for the top 25 scorers in the league and Brandon Roy (through Monday night's games).
Click here for a full-size chart comparing the two. As you can see, they produce very similar relative results for the top-end scorers. With that data, I made the following two charts.
First, a comparison of scoring and consistency for the top 25 scorers. Points per game is on the X axis; Shake is on the Y axis. A nice visualization to see how the alpha dogs of the league compare. Helpful to notice an outlier like Monta Ellis and to appreciate guys like Chris Bosh and Dirk Nowitzki, who might get overlooked in the grand scheme of things.
Second, a comparison of scoring efficiency and consistency. Points Per Possession, my favorite measure of offensive efficiency, is on the X axis; Shake is on the Y axis. I really like this one because it starts to pull out who the real scoring robots are in the NBA. The guys who deliver points play after play and do it similarly game after game. A ton of interesting things to note in this chart including the nearly identical location of Chris Bosh and LeBron James, the surprising locations of David Lee and Amar'e Stoudemire and Brandon Roy's location within the league's elite. His Shake has obviously taken a hit due to playing through the hamstring injury. We should expect it to improve as the rest of the season plays out.
Those two scatterplots got me thinking: what makes the league's best scorer? After a brief brainstorm with KP2, we settled on efficiency, usage and consistency (in descending order of importance). To be the league's best scorer you must be able to do it efficiently (provide the maximum number of points each time you have the ball), you must be able to do it a lot (you have to be the go-to option and you have to be successful enough to continue to be the go-to option) and you must be automatic (putting up a similar number of points no matter the defensive scheme or match-ups).
We decided to create a composite measure of scoring effectiveness using those three factors: PPP to judge efficiency, Hollinger's Usage and Shake to judge consistency. I turned the heavy math lifting over to KP2 at this point. After some thought, he decided efficiency deserved to be weighted (45%), usage (40%) and consistency (15%). Because he likes to stick his finger in my eye, KP2 switched to Gini instead of Shake for consistency. He then did some nifty math tricks so that the composite scores would fit on a traditional 1 to 100 scale. Here's how the top points per game scorers in the league shake out using this new rating.
Note: an embarrassing typographical error in my original Shake post gave Kobe Bryant a much higher shake at the time than was warranted. That has been corrected.
Injury Numbers
John Hollinger notes that the Blazers have had the most games missed by top 6 players (162) in the entire league. The next closest team is Golden State with 108 and the league median right now is 31. Those are just crazy numbers. He also points out that Oklahoma City has had just 2!
The only top-six player for OKC to miss a game thus far is center Nenad Krstic, who missed two games. With the help of such fortunate health, Oklahoma City has emerged as one of the West's top surprises and seems on pace to win about a dozen games more than anyone expected.
Might be a good idea to sell OKC stock when everyone predicts a deep playoff run next fall.
Camby Trade Reaction
I missed linking Chad Ford's Insider take on the Marcus Camby trade earlier this week. he ranked the Blazers 4th for teams that are "going for it" this year (behind Cleveland, Dallas and Houston) and wrote...
Positive spin: The team was desperate for help up front, given the season-ending injuries to Greg Oden and Joel Przybilla. Marcus Camby is a great fit as a veteran shot-blocking, rebounding presence, and he has an expiring contract. Assuming Oden and Przybilla are healthy next fall, the Trail Blazers can walk away without having to continue to pay Camby, who meanwhile should secure the Blazers' position in the playoffs as a fourth or fifth seed.
Negative spin: The Blazers had to give up two key assets. Blake was the team's backup point guard, and it remains to be seen whether Jerryd Bayless can pick up the slack. Travis Outlaw has been injured this season, but he has a lot of upside and was a tough asset to lose.
I'm not as optimistic about Camby moving the Blazers up the Western Conference chart as Ford but his overall analysis is solid. In terms of deadline winners, I would go Houston and Cleveland then a big gap then Dallas and Portland and then everyone else. A lot more trade deadline talk, including some excellent analysis from KP2, can be heard on this week's Wingcast.
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I wrote a piece about Jim Marsh
Not to long ago. Heck of a nice guy. My favorite quote from the interview:
“I wouldn’t give back Parkinson’s in a minute because it’s allowed me to have a different dimension to relationships with people that I would never have had without it."
http://www.iamatrailblazersfan.com/ArticleDisplay/tabid/120/ItemID/780/Default.aspx
Ben
These statistics, while interesting, don’t reveal much information.
Try this:
Measure MJ’s total points contribution (points scored + assists) during the pre first three peat and compare that to the three championship years. What happens?
Do the same for Kobe for the post-Shaq years.
Generate statistics for LeBron, Roy, Durant. See what you find.
Your statistics are like RBI’s in baseball: enough chances equals high totals irregardless of team result.
Yeah, and "regardless" would make more sense there anyways..
pretty sure IF that word was to exist it would constitute a double negative saying "this is not regardless of…
It does exist, it's just informal.
It’s been in use since the 1800’s. While it is etymologically incorrect (double negative from “ir” and “less”) it has been commonly used in informal speech to provide emphasis. It’s meaning is identical to that of “regardless.” Check it out. It’s in Fowler’s, Merriam Webster’s Collegiate 10th, and The American Heritage Dictionary.
"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave
All words are "made up" when you think about it
Nothing wrong with using a word on a blog comment if it can be found in a dictionary…as opposed to some words that we have become accustomed to seeing…
The last table looks eerily like the actual ppg leaders
Seems like a lot of work for similar results.
#52
Nice Martell story
He’s a quality guy. Hope he can stay a Blazer, but in any event, I’ll always be a fan.
I have dreams about Kenny Thomas coming in off the bench when we need help in the playoffs. These are not good dreams.
I’ll be shocked if we get a four seed, and pleasantly surprised if we get a 5. Too much ground to make up.
Even making the playoffs would be a great accomplishment, given the injuries. We’ll probably need some good fortune to get higher than sixth — one of the top five would have to lose some games they shouldn’t. It can always happen, of course, but Dallas, Denver, and Utah should all win at least 52, and to match 52, we have to go 18-4 the rest of the way. Phoenix should win 50 or 51, and 50 would require us to go 16-6. Maybe one or two of those teams stumble, maybe we go on an absolute tear, but I just don’t see it as realistic to think we can get a 4 seed, and 5 is a stretch.
The Camby addition does give us hope of taking a playoff series and making the second series competitive, but it doesn’t really seem likely to move us way up in the seedings, at this point.
Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!
I have dreams about Kenny Thomas coming in off the bench when we need help in the playoffs. These are not good dreams
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I’m envisioning a poor man’s Chuck Hayes. Or a more-experienced version of Jeff Pendergraph
Would you prefer Tony Battie or Brian Cardinal, instead? Those are 2 other names that Quick mentioned at noon
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Thomas please...
you can’t teach length, and come playoff time I will take as many good defending, rebounding guys as I can get in a Blazer uniform.
Til the wheels fall off.... Marcus Camby
Go Blazers !!
I heard KT is 6'7
so more than length I think KP would be adding toughness to the frontcourt, which is something Portland was sorely missing during the Utah comeback (when Boozer and Fesenko man-handled LMA, Howard and Camby on missed FTs, etc)
I return to this stat: the Blazers led Houston by double-digits in the 4th quarter of game 4 last April. During that fateful quarter the Rockets outrebounded Portland 11-2 and won the game by a single point. Just one defensive rebound and change of possession in that quarter could’ve swung the whole playoff series.
Blazer fans suffered through this same “death by paper cuts” agony during the Utah comeback last week, one surrendered rebound at a time
Is Kenny Thomas the savior? Maybe not, but could he scrap for and claim a key rebound that Channing Frye and Travis Outlaw couldn’t? Never say never
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
But what is his wing span...
I have family in the Sac valley and actually watch a lot of Kings games. His wing span looks good to me. He has burned a few Blazers for rebounds in his day.
I’m still waiting for the front line of Nic,LA and Marcus :)
Til the wheels fall off.... Marcus Camby
Go Blazers !!
they started tonight
and the Bulls shot 60% in the 1st quarter
looking better in the 3rd
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Of that 60 %
how many points in the paint ? I missed the first quarter.
Camby warms my grinch heart that took over when Pryz went down. Leave LA where he does his damage.
Til the wheels fall off.... Marcus Camby
Go Blazers !!
part 2 of that question
how many of those points were scored by guards ?
Til the wheels fall off.... Marcus Camby
Go Blazers !!
I was on the road
listening to Wheels. I was just giving you a hard time. IIRC it was Rose doing most of the damage from 15 feet early in the game
Camby had his moments tonight, but down the stretch the Bulls were able to get to the basket pretty easily. Noah killed Portland with those bounce passes, Hinrich and Rose were able to penetrate. Deng was unconscious
If only my Outlaw+RLEC for Hinrich+Deng proposal had gone through, a year ago. The Blazers would be sitting pretty now at PG and SF…oh well, you don’t always get what you want…
I did enjoy watching LMA throw Noah out of the way for that tip-in on the missed FT. It was like role-reversal for what Boozer did to him, last week
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Great game wrong score at the end.
Til the wheels fall off.... Marcus Camby
Go Blazers !!
by FrenchieFan on Feb 27, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Travis Outlaw's "upside" would have never been realized in Nate Mac's offense.
Plain and simple.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
How many other players are in that category?
Do they have to all go too ??
Or, is there some other change that could be made that allows us to keep our talent and make the most of it?
I think so.
Re-sign Travis Outlaw !
Gottal love Durant.
Now, if we eliminated all players in the league longer than Durant, that could be impressive also.
Oklahoma is fortunate.
Re-sign Travis Outlaw !
Shake, rattle and roll
MJ’s statistics:
Season PPG APG TRB Wins
1984-85 28.2 5.9 3440 38
1985-86 22.7 2.9 3558 30
1986-87 37.1 4.6 3648 40
1987-88 35.0 5.9 3629 50
1988-89 32.5 8 3471 47
1989-90 33.6 6.3 3354 55
1990-91 31.5 5.5 3940 61
1991-92 30.1 6.1 3612 67
1992-93 32.6 5.5 3573 57
1994-95 26.9 5.3 3400 55
1995-96 30.4 4.3 3658 72
1996-97 29.6 4.3 3696 69
1997-98 28.7 3.5 3681 62
Team total rebounds seems to be higher in championship years but otherwise individual performance itself only indicates a necessary but not sufficient condition of a championship season.
Missed the Window
I guess I missed the fifteen seconds that the salary cap thread was open, but can anybody tell me if D. Miles’ 9 million comes off the books this Summer?
yes it does
But Roy’s and Alrdidge’s big extensions also kick in.
Aha...
Thanks. That’s too bad, I was thinking that with Miles’ 9 million, and Joel and Marcus contracts expiring, we had something close to 25 million to play around with.
Goodbye dreams, hello LMA’s contract. I sure am glad KP&Co played hardball over that one…
Joel's contract wont expire.
He’ll take his $7.4M player option and smile all the way to the bank.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
yes, but it doesn't matter
because Roy and LMA’s extensions go on the books and Portland will be over the cap
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Rec'd
for the part about Jim Marsh and then some.
Anyone in here ever go to “Jammin’ Hoops Camp” when they were younger? It was a free 3day summer basketball camp sponsored by Seafirst Bank and then BofA…Jim Marsh was the guy that lead it, solid dude.
Just watched the video of the Comcast Director.
Did he say CSN is going to be in HD on Verizon? or another Comcast channel in HD. I couldnt tell…
Dear Ben
we understand you love Durant. We don’t need a graph each week showing it.
:)
Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.
by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 26, 2010 4:02 PM PST reply actions
More meaningless stats that say Durant shoots a lot
end of story. Unlike other scorers who can supplement their game when they’re not scoring, Durant’s single-mindedness on the court leads to consistently high shot totals, which for any player leads to higher scores in these meaningless stats.
I can’t think of a less relevant way to look at the game of basketball. Show Ben a stat with Durant in the top 3 or 4 and I’ll show you a stat that gets itself put on BE for little to no reason.
I want to know where Allen Iverson ranked.
Batum brings the doom.
by The Running Man on Feb 27, 2010 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
Iverson CAN pass the ball.
He still tends to run terrible inefficient offensive sets, wastes too many opportunities, doesn’t play good team defense, etc.
Batum brings the doom.
by The Running Man on Feb 27, 2010 1:29 AM PST up reply actions
My Good Friend Nigel played in that Oregon-Washington game
he played in the 8th grade and under game and then we stayed to watch the high school game and I remember now that I have a picture on my phone with Brandon Roy at that exact game.
"Good, Better, Best, never let it rest until your good is your better and your better is your best." Tim Duncan

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